SubscribeObama Calls A Baby ‘Punishment’ - The Video
From CNN via YouTube:
Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Given what we know about Mr. Obama’s mother, it is easy to imagine her saying this.
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April 1st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
“Barack Obama is a typical black person… that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away..that’s just the nature of race in our society.”
Be careful what you say BO. Your words are more about you than you may realize.
April 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Obama was answering someones question and revealed his real thoughts. If his talks aren’t scripted he opens himself up. A few weeks ago he restricted his response to questions to 8 so I suspect he doesn’t trust himself very much. Obama said he would teach his dtrs morals and values…. How would he explalin partial birth murder to them one might wonder..
Obama -> Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007) http://ontheissues.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm
April 1st, 2008 at 6:07 pm
What’s Up? I can not view the video - don’t tell my Barry is embarrassed by putting both his bi-racial feet into his mouth again!
Transcript someone - I must write to Barry and quizz him on that pithy comment and how come the Iraq War is such a stupid waste of money while he won’t comment on Planned Parenthood (a non-profit) made a high profit of $55.8 million and received record taxpayer funding of $305.3 million?
Typical liberal government - with the chief liberal hypocritical rip off the taxpayer running for POTUS - think really hard people if even more of this bs is really what you want - but don’t forget, it will only last as long as it takes for the radical islamic terrorists to invade - since Barry doesn’t believe in the GWOT. . .Never did. . .
April 1st, 2008 at 6:07 pm
” A Baby Is A Punishment ”
Well, He should know, Those air brakes on the sides of his head had to wreak havoc on his moms birth canal.
April 1st, 2008 at 6:20 pm
” A Baby Is A Punishment ”
I’ll bet his mom is contrite!
April 1st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Here is the comment in context:
“When it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include — which should include abstinence education and teaching the children — teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual. But it should also include — it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I’ve got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby. I don’t want them punished with an STD at the age of 16. You know, so it doesn’t make sense to not give them information.”
April 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
I heard the comment, in context, and I’m still offended by it, but only so much. It’s kind of like trying to be shocked by violence or sex on tv anymore. There’s so much garbage on tv, I’m just not really surprised by it anymore, and the same thing applies here. I’ve been listening to liberals and other pro-choicers talk about babies as burdens for years now.
To a liberal, a baby is not a miracle, a precious life to be loved, protected, nurtured, and cherished. Nope, a baby is red ink on the expense side of the budget (for those liberals that actually maintain a budget), a mouth to feed, a drain on a family’s (read “swanky progressive couple”) resources. I’ve even heard a baby called an “obstacle to a woman’s personal development, and impediment to the fulfillment of her potential as a strong, independent woman.” A baby is an accident, a mistake that “uninformed” girls make. The fact that it requires boys to make the same mistake is somehow lost on them, but it shouldn’t be that surprising. If they boy made the “mistake” too, then he’d have a say as to whether or not said “mistake” is killed. By defining it as such, a baby is far easier to kill, and then pass off blithely as a “choice.” The only murder in the world that can be performed and paid for publicly.
I’m not particularly disgusted by Obama’s words here. They’re telling, to be sure, but I hear them all the time. I’ve become desensitised to the inhumanity of pro-choicers. This comment is just one more feather in the pillow liberals continue to press over the face of human decency.
April 1st, 2008 at 8:26 pm
In context, out of context, silver tongued or broken English, it is still a resoundingly ignorant and callous sentiment. What a moron!
April 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pm
…..”I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby. I don’t want them punished with an STD at the age of 16……”
Values? Morals? Morals are principles of right and wrong as they relate to behavior, or at least conforming to standards of proper behavior. In other words, is this act ethical? What does my conscience say? The amount of worth I place on my actions in the eyes of myself and others becomes my sense of values. If you have instilled proper morals in your children then they will recognize that assuming responsibility for ones actions is a reflection of one’s, sense of right and wrong, attesting to their sense of values. What Obama intends to instill in his kids is that there is a sense of right and wrong for people who wish to believe that, but if you choose not to believe in anything absolute, well….somebody will clean up the mess and you can go on your merry way. Since he has a distorted values system it would be unreasonable to expect that he would impart anything other than that to his children. Evidently he feels that butchering babies is morally acceptable. What do you suppose his kids will grow up thinking? Taken out of context, of course. Dissembler!
April 1st, 2008 at 10:03 pm
I heard this reported ONCE in the last 5 hours. No comments from the news at all - perhaps tommorow.
to soon for googles index too, i guess: No results found for “Why punish a woman with a baby.”.
I have added this to obamanation notes:
One thing we know is he agrees with partial birth abortion. I explained once to a Dutch blogger what partial Birth abortion entailed and he said that ‘doesn’t go on!!”
Yes, there are those like Obama who would promote Law to deliver a healthy child, leaving only the babies head in the birth canal, so no one can say the baby was ever BORN, obscuring it’s life by this practice, by reaching into the birth canal with an implement of death to crush the child’s head. I won’t even describe the disposal of the unwanted childs remains.
According to Mr. Obama in a speech today, April 1, 2008, “Why punish a woman with a baby.”
Setting a mother’s health issue aside, and that the child is alive, Obama’s opinion asks us to understand the ultimate punishment to babies is exceptable to him because of the burdensome, inconvienent, responsibilty that the woman will suffer… at last a proponent slips up describing the inconvient truth.
He’s been paid as a Senator for 14 months of campaigning while never even having to do his job. With views like the above, however, maybe that is a very fortunate thing for unBorn Americans.
April 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
I wasn’t trying to excuse his comment at all. I was simply posting a transcript of the video as requested.
Here is a live link for the video.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:06 pm
AH well i see - my words in quotes wouldnt bring up any return because apparently the newscaster I heard say the words (that i wrote down) were Not what Obama actually said -
refering to his daughters he said…” if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
and not the words of “why punish a woman with a baby” as the newscaster said.
ok— it still doesn’t change his message that lack of abstinance or not using contraceptives could produce a “mistake” in the form of a baby — or the ‘punishment’ to be endured from the mistake.
and i think it still goes toward his pro abortion stance and the answer for “mistakes”
April 1st, 2008 at 11:32 pm
UCC in Illinois (affiliated w/ TUCC) owns Christ Church Hospital in Oak Lawn where “Live Birth Abortions” were being performed.
“In February 2004, U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama’s wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the “alarming news” that “right-wing politicians” had passed a law stopping doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls.
Michelle called partial-birth abortion “a legitimate medical procedure,” and wouldn’t supporters please pay $150 to attend a luncheon for her husband, who would fight against “cynical ploy[s]” to stop it?”
[...]
But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left.
I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member.
Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women’s rights or abortionists’ rights. Obama’s clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed. contin:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n.....E_ID=51121
[...]
“In the event that an aborted baby is born alive, she or he receives “comfort care,” defined as keeping the baby warm in a blanket until s/he dies. Parents may hold the baby if they wish. If the parents do not want to hold their dying aborted baby, a staff member cares for the baby until s/he dies. If staff did does not have the time or desire to hold the baby, s/he is taken to Christ Hospital’s new Comfort Room, which is complete with a First Foto machine if parents want professional pictures of their aborted baby, baptismal supplies, gowns, and certificates, foot printing equipment and baby bracelets for mementos, and a rocking chair. Before the Comfort Room was established, babies were taken to the Soiled Utility Room to die.” contin:
http://www.priestsforlife.org/.....timony.htm
UCC: List of actions
http://www.ucc.org/lgbt/statements.html
In light of both he and his wife’s ideology I guess a baby being a punishment isn’t too surprising.
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:24 am
October 25, 2006
Obama’s fundraising letter using the “so-called” partial birth abortion ban
http://www.associatedcontent.c.....birth.html
Excerpt from the letter:
That’s why it is critical we nominate someone who has faced these tough choices. That’s why nominating an experienced legislator is so important in this race. It takes courage to cast a vote.
A few of his “tough” choices….
[…]
He sponsored S.CON.RES.53: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.
In 1999 he was the only Illinois State Senator to vote against a bill barring early release for (criminal) sex offenders.
He voted against filtering pornography on school and library computers and he voted for sex education for kindergarten children through the 5th grade.
Also, in 2001, he voted “present” on a bill to keep pornographic book and video stores and strip clubs from setting up within 1,000 feet of schools and churches.
Twice, Obama voted against bills prohibiting tax funding of abortions….
http://www.associatedcontent.c.....birth.html
This is one scary guy.
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:19 am
“I wasn’t trying to excuse his comment at all. I was simply posting a transcript of the video as requested.”
I didn’t intend any insult to you personally by my comment. I brought up the whole “context” issue because Liberals and Democrats like to cry and whine about “context” whenever they say something maddeningly distasteful, horrendously immoral, or profoundly untrue (in other words, whenever liberals speak). Miraculously, “context” never comes up when a conservative or Republican says something even slightly provocative, like the idea that welfare suppresses initiative, or that abortion is a woman’s constitutionally “protected” (read manufactured) right to murder her unborn child. (that’s my line — heaven forbid calling a spade a spade)
I’m usually not so melodramatic, but I simply cannot comprehend the hysteria over a man who claims he will unite this country and yet supports, indeed protects, partial-birth abortion. How can you be a uniter when you are so solidy in the Pro-Choice, unfettered abortion crowd? That alone should make his campaign a joke!
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:28 am
“”……..taken to Christ Hospital’s new Comfort Room, which is complete with a First Foto machine if parents want professional pictures of their aborted baby, baptismal supplies, gowns, and certificates, foot printing equipment and baby bracelets for mementos, and a rocking chair.”"”"
So the church is selling trinkets to the parents of murdered children!!!!!
People want pictures of the child they just murdered? These people are SICK!!!! Sicker than I was willing to believe any American could be. Jefferey Dalhmer wasn’t that f*****g morbid!
God help us!!!
This church and it’s members are in for a rude awakening, That’s just incredible to me that anyone calling themselves a Christian could be a part of any such madness.
I gotta go throw up………
April 2nd, 2008 at 4:53 am
Thank you Petra for providing those links re Obama and abortion. Although admittedly I feel rather unwell after viewing them. I just hope more people will be exposed to his views before it’s too late. Everybody’s just thinks he’s so wonderful & I really think it’s based on his demeanor for lots of people. The choices in this race are not at all pleasing to me, if you go by positions and history of the candidates. I can’t understand how late-term abortions were ever legalized in this country. I am a registered nurse who worked in NICU in the ’80’s & we went to great lengths to try to save these same babies that people are killing or leaving to die. I also don’t get this Terry Schiavo thing. When I went to school feeding a patient was not considered an extraordinary measure. Perhaps someday Terry’s husband, who wanted to get rid of her, will get to meet all those who collaborated in late-term abortions. I hope they like warm weather- really warm.
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 am
Petra Advocate Health systems is not owned by the United Church of Christ. They are affiliated with both UCC and evangelical Lutherans. While I do not know if dilatation and evacuations are done at Christ Hospital for elective terminations, which I doubt, the comfort room that they are describing is for families who want to spend time with a fetus that died in-utero. It is common to offer pictures, foot print cards etc for these families. These “trinkets” are not sold to the family Noyz. As far as I know the procedure that you are discussing is not done on an elective basis in Illinois. there are only a couple of physicians performing late second trimester elective terminations. If it is done it is done it is for a fetus with multiple lethal birth defects, however it is easier to just induce labor in those cases.
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:54 am
A baby is “punishment”…
This piece of filth makes Heinrich Himmler seem like a nice guy! Okay, so Barack Hussein’s the ‘rat “messiah”…a racist communist liar and lawyer who thinks that babies are “punishment.” Well, that’s the face of the left, and if people want to follow this offscouring of the dregs of the Ivy League, then that’s just fine…the road to Hell is paved with good intentions and the bones of fools and the evil.
Now the only question is how many of B. Hussein’s followers are evil, and how many are just plain purblind idiots!
April 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 am
Sharps I really hate the fact that you hold back how you really feel!!! You need to release those pent up frustrations!
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
drdobgyn thanks - affiliation is correct - not unlike their affilation with the Trinity UCC. I think they’re getting off the hook too easyily. Wright was wrong but the big guy John Thomas is just as anti-American and when some of the other ministers/congregation who oppose his socialist agenda they’re told it’s “justice decipleship”. They knew what was going on just like Obama did at the UCC General Synod (his first campaign stop) *hey everybody look at me I’m a christian* speech. In his second sentence he declared he was running for president - he then used his Synod speech (just words) in his campaign pamphlets. I must reread the speech but I think Obama lied when he spoke about abortions and the Catholic Church. Anyway John Thomas et al are now trying to clean up their image and stop the bleeding of their congregation.
Campaign litrature:
http://ucctruths.blogspot.com/.....peech.html
They’s just written an ad in the NYT’s…
http://www.ucc.org/newsletter/pdfs/ny-times-ad.pdf
UCC national office in crisis mode: John Thomas lays out strategy:
http://ucctruths.blogspot.com/
United Church of Christ’s Israel Divestment Action “Troubling”; Contravenes Months of Interfaith Dialogue:
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/IslME_62/4749_62.htm
http://ucctruths.blogspot.com/.....chive.html
United, Church, of, Christ, UCC, national office honors convicted FALN terrorist Alejandrina Torres. God is still speaking, ejector, UCC, steeple, ad, advertising, M. Linda Jaramillo, M. Linda Jaramillo, M. Linda Jaramillo, “M. Linda Jaramillo”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzRnhygO-Vg
Soros funds The Clergy Leadership Network
http://www.ucctruths.com/cln.html
“No more vacations in Cuba, Joe?” Great pictures from a ‘UCC spokesperson’ but none like this:…
http://www.worldisround.com/ar.....index.html
http://ucctruths.blogspot.com/.....chive.html
Don Imus and the Two Faces of John Thomas
Friday, April 13, 2007
Although not asked for an opinion, United Church of Christ President, John Thomas, has offered his wisdom about Don Imus’s racist comments:
While Imus’ apology wasn’t good enough for Thomas, he had no problem showering praise on Alejandrina Torres - a convicted terrorist who was video taped building bombs. Torres, as far I can tell after searching the internet, has never apologized to the victims who were maimed and killed by her group.
http://ucctruths.blogspot.com/.....chive.html
UCC files petition challenging News Corp. licenses in NYC - Associate Conference Minister “harmed” by FCC waivers
Sunday, May 13, 2007
The United Church of Christ and Jesse Jackson have filed petitions with the FCC to deny News Corp. license renewals of WNYW-TV and WWOR-TV. From Broadcasting & Cable:
“Fox’s common ownership of The New York Post, WNYW-TV and WWOR-TV harms me by sharply reducing the number of independent voices available to me,” wrote the Rev. Sherry M. Taylor, from UCC’s Central Atlantic Conference in New Jersey, in the petition. “Unless the licenses are denied, my right to access diverse programming will continue to be harmed.”
News Corp. has a waiver of the broadcast/newspaper crossownership rule to own both the stations and The New York Post. UCC and Rainbow are asking the FCC to rescind the waiver, which would make the stations automatically in violation of the crossownership ban.
http://ucctruths.blogspot.com/.....chive.html
I think John Thomas is getting a free pass and needs to be held accountable for Wright - he knew what was going on just like Obama. Wright’s left holding the bag - for now. I wonder how much Soros is involved - follow the money…
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:00 pm
drdobgyn
I suppose you want me to believe they’re giving away the photos, baptismal supplies, gowns, and certificates, foot prints and baby bracelets. Bullsh*t!!!!
Are there no atrocities that you liberals won’t defend?
I’m sure many liberals/communists/socialists/facists would welcome a gene found that could determine whether or not you would be born a conservative or liberal. Then they could just murder us before we’re born. They would murder their way into power. Wait, they already have in China, Russia, Cuba. , Ect., Ect.,……
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:02 pm
“What’s Up? I can not view the video - don’t tell my Barry is embarrassed by putting both his bi-racial feet into his mouth again!”
It’s probably YouTube who pulled it. Or maybe the original uploader of the clip.
But I have posted another source, which seems to be working — at least for the moment.
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 pm
I practiced in a Catholic hospital in Chicago and a Baptist hospital in Texas. What they are describing is the truth. Whenever a baby dies in-utero the baby is treated as if it were born alive ie foot prints, pictures usually poloroid, outfit etc. It’s all to help the family. Sorry to break it to you but it is free. The clothes and blankets are usually donated or made by volunteers.
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:16 am
Thanks for educating me Doc. I never knew any of that was going on. I sure didn’t know Catholic and Baptists hospitals performed abortions.
sigh….
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:30 am
They don’t perform abortions. But we do deliver babies that have died while still in the mother.
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:37 am
Terminations are rarely done in hospitals. If they are its usually at a teaching hospital and its usually for a fetus with lethal defects. D&E are really pretty rare and they aren’t taught that much in teaching institutions. I’ve done 1 , as a resident, for a fetus with multiple genetic problems incompatible with life. Its taught along with the basic D&C which are done for 1st trimester terminations because it is a skill that every Ob/Gyn must possess. I for one do not perform terminations but I know how too. For those women seeking elective 2nd trimester terminations they need to go to one of a handful of physicians with that skill set.
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:48 am
Thanks again Doc for staightening me out on that. I was hoping that wasn’t the case.
I know you’re doing your best to save lives Doc. I really respect that even if you are a lib. I don’t imagine I’d be asking the politics of my doctor when I really needed him..LOL! Keep up the good work.
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I can confirm the practice the Doc is speaking of concerning pictures, footprints and other “mementos”, especially from a hospital related to a religious order. My little brother died in-utero (still birth per the birth certificate) in 1949. I was four at the time, but I remember going to the hospital with my father, grandparents and various other relatives. I also remember him being in a bassinet, fully dressed and looking to be asleep. There was also a priest present and, from what I’m told, they actually held a funeral in the room for the family. Several years ago after our mother died, my sister gave me some professional photographs that were taken of him along with his shoes and a copy of his birth certificate. He’s buried at Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery in San Diego, CA.
April 4th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Please excuse me if this is off topic:
From our friends at MMfA:
O’Reilly on transgender man’s pregnancy: “[I]magine a poor kid getting born into that family”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200804040008
On the April 3 edition of Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor, discussing pregnant transgender man Thomas Beatie, Bill O’Reilly said: “You imagine a poor kid getting born into that family going, ‘Hey… whoa. Who are you today?’ ” Fox News contributor Bernard Goldberg responded: “That’s the real tragedy.” Think Progress noted O’Reilly’s comments on its blog.
From the April 3 edition of Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor:
O’REILLY: Jane, what do you think?
JANE HALL (Fox News contributor): Well, you know, I don’t — I think it is something of an oddity I suppose Oprah’s women audience would love to know what a man being pregnant actually feels like, thinks like. You know, I don’t consider it as bad as all the interviews with pimps that we saw after the Eliot Spitzer scandal. I mean, the man hasn’t done anything immoral. He’s done something very odd, and that’s what they’re cashing in on. But I don’t think –
O’REILLY: Right, but if your 13-year-old is watching —
HALL: — it’s the same category.
O’REILLY: Do you want a 13-year-old watching this kind of stuff, and you’ve got to explain all this crazy stuff? Do you want that?
HALL: I’m more bothered by stuff that looks pretty darn pornographic. This looks like a medical oddity. I would say it’s not as bad as some other stuff.
O’REILLY: All right. So –
HALL: That’s all.
O’REILLY: — neither of you are upset about this.
GOLDBERG: Well, I don’t think it’s good. I think it’s one more example of how crummy television can be, and frankly, more than television, the whole culture. You know, a guy — she’s born a woman, she becomes a guy, but she still has ovaries and a womb. She marries some guy and she has a baby –
O’REILLY: She married a girl.
GOLDBERG: — marries a girl.
O’REILLY: Yeah.
GOLDBERG: This –
O’REILLY: It’s hard to keep track, Bernie. It is.
GOLDBERG: This is like –
O’REILLY: You imagine a poor kid getting born into that family going, “Hey” –
GOLDBERG: Now that’s –
O’REILLY: — “whoa. Who are you today?”
GOLDBERG: That’s the real tragedy.
O’REILLY: Of course. But Oprah will deal with it, I’m sure.