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Obama Considers Preventive Detention

Buried on page A18 of the New York Times:

Obama Is Said to Consider Preventive Detention Plan

Published: May 20, 2009

WASHINGTON — President Obama told human rights advocates at the White House on Wednesday that he was mulling the need for a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried, two participants in the private session said.

The discussion, in a 90-minute meeting in the Cabinet Room that included Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and other top administration officials, came on the eve of a much-anticipated speech Mr. Obama is to give Thursday on a number of thorny national security matters, including his promise to close the detention center at the naval base in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

Human rights advocates are growing deeply uneasy with Mr. Obama’s stance on these issues, especially his recent move to block the release of photographs showing abuse of detainees, and his announcement that he is willing to try terrorism suspects in military commissions — a concept he criticized bitterly as a presidential candidate.

The two participants, outsiders who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the session was intended to be off the record, said they left the meeting dismayed.

They said Mr. Obama told them he was thinking about “the long game” — how to establish a legal system that would endure for future presidents. He raised the issue of preventive detention himself, but made clear that he had not made a decision on it. Several senior White House officials did not respond to requests for comment on the outsiders’ accounts.

“He was almost ruminating over the need for statutory change to the laws so that we can deal with individuals who we can’t charge and detain,” one participant said. “We’ve known this is on the horizon for many years, but we were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning.”

The other participant said Mr. Obama did not seem to be thinking about preventive detention for terrorism suspects now held at Guantánamo Bay, but rather for those captured in the future, in settings other than a legitimate battlefield like Afghanistan. “The issue is,” the participant said, “What are the options left open to a future president?” …

A version of this article appeared in print on May 21, 2009, on page A18 of the New York edition.

We suspect that these sources are actually ‘human rights’ workers, who are trying to force Mr. Obama to give these terrorists even more ‘rights.’

This article was posted by Steve on Thursday, May 21st, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

12 Responses to “Obama Considers Preventive Detention”

  1. EvaTheFrisbeeDog says:

    Forget the socialist mantra, he’s a fascist, pure and simple.

    • proreason says:

      That’s right Eva.

      Mussilini in blackface, except for the nationalism part.

      fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

    • Liberals Demise says:

      As least Mussolini loved his country ……….. not sure what barry loves other than himself.

    • EvaTheFrisbeeDog says:

      ‘Nation’ can be supplanted with “social progressivism”, “global warming alarmism’, and ‘anti-Americanism’, and ‘Afro-centric’ and it still applies.

    • proreason says:

      A follow-up on Eva’s fascist point.

      Fascist states control business rather than owning owning businesses directly. This is closer to the direction The Moron has established than pure nationalization of industries (ala his hero Hugo Chavez, who is primarilly a Socialist).

      This allows The Creature to claim out of the left side of his mouth that he is “pro-business” (since he isn’t driectly involved in the owership) while out of the right side he is dictating what business can do (salaries, bankruptcy terms, types of cars they can manufacture, credit card fee structures, onerous taxes and fees, etc. etc.)

      As you can see, his actions, so far, have been fascist, not socialist.

      The fascist regimes I’m familiar with have also freely used force….and we clearly see that in the threats against the Chrylser bond-holders and the destruction of Las Vegas and the whole travel industry. So far, he is using the press instead of the military, probably because he doesn’t have confidence that the military will comply with same fervor he can elicit from the tingly legs of the media.

  2. proreason says:

    Hot from the Proreason Press:

    (pr) Wednesday, President Obama told Civil Rights advocates that he is “mulling the need for a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security”

    In unrelated news, Comrade Napolitano stands by the recent DHS report that concludes that conservatives and veterans are “terrorism suspects”.

    • MinnesotaRush says:

      The absolutely disgusting and horrifying potentials that arise from this perverted notion (preventive detention) are fairly numerous, aren’t they (?).

      And this from a guy who has a hard time detaining REAL, BONA FIDE’ terrorists. DOH!!!

  3. pdsand says:

    Doesn’t anyone on the left ever listen to the words that come out of Obama’s mouth? I know no one in the Republican party or in our elite conservative media ever does, but you would think the left would listen because he’s talking to them.
    Obama has never been against the war on terror, or preventive detention without trial. As with all liberals he just has problems with the way it’s being done. He’s just upset that it’s currently resulting in only foreign, black/brown people getting held for fighting in his mind a legitimate war against imperial U.S. He wants to turn it around and hold white Americans for racism, plots against abortion clinics, and white collar/political crimes. Also, unlike the current situation at Guantanamo, he would prefer if his program were kept secret by the MSM.
    Which it will be.

    • proreason says:

      “He wants to turn it around and hold white Americans for racism, plots against abortion clinics, and white collar/political crimes.”

      Another VERY astute observation, pd.

  4. tgar says:

    proreason press
    my thoughts exactly. gotta have a way to “detain” those of us who own guns, love God, believe is the sactity of life and support states rights..everything this admin is against.

  5. proreason says:

    I own the world/


    and I own you too

  6. mybrotherkeeper says:

    I don’t see anything wrong with it. In fact, maybe he can elaborate on it by predicting which people may have an anti-government thought pop up in their minds. Then you immediately imprison them before the thought pops up in their minds, thereby saving much precious blood and treasure.

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