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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-has-closed-the-cias-secret-prisons#comment-142271</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent question, coach!

But there may be a wee bit too much logic behind it to catch the attention of a liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent question, coach!</p>
<p>But there may be a wee bit too much logic behind it to catch the attention of a liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: catie</title>
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		<dc:creator>catie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals, do you think that the MSM and the kool aid drinkers will blame obambi and his clown car of friends? I rather think they&#039;ll all say it&#039;s Bush&#039;s fault because we did such terrible things to these goons that they had to retaliate.  I can hear them already.  I have a crazy uncle (big union thug in his working days who would vote for Satan if he had a D behind his name) who is already on this drumbeat.  I&#039;m sure others are too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals, do you think that the MSM and the kool aid drinkers will blame obambi and his clown car of friends? I rather think they&#8217;ll all say it&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s fault because we did such terrible things to these goons that they had to retaliate.  I can hear them already.  I have a crazy uncle (big union thug in his working days who would vote for Satan if he had a D behind his name) who is already on this drumbeat.  I&#8217;m sure others are too.</p>
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		<title>By: oldswimcoach</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldswimcoach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, since the prisons were secret, how do we know they really existed in the first place?  How do we know they were really shut down?  And, why should we believe anything in public channels on this highly classified topic?  Just asking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, since the prisons were secret, how do we know they really existed in the first place?  How do we know they were really shut down?  And, why should we believe anything in public channels on this highly classified topic?  Just asking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Gillman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Gillman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND in related news...

Germany, and other European Landlords announce they have secured deals with some new tenants who dress in Robes and are adorned with underwear on their heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND in related news&#8230;</p>
<p>Germany, and other European Landlords announce they have secured deals with some new tenants who dress in Robes and are adorned with underwear on their heads.</p>
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		<title>By: DANEgerus</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-has-closed-the-cias-secret-prisons#comment-142218</link>
		<dc:creator>DANEgerus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[WHEN] we... ...suffer another terrorist attack because of their dangerous actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[WHEN] we&#8230; &#8230;suffer another terrorist attack because of their dangerous actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Petronius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-has-closed-the-cias-secret-prisons#comment-142174</link>
		<dc:creator>Petronius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Terminating security contracts at the sites would save &#039;at least $4 million,&#039; Mr. Panetta said.&quot;

Here is yet another instance of Liberalism vs. Reality, and the Liberal inaptitude for governing.  The Government does not have the legal right to a no-cost termination of its contracts.  Unlike ordinary contracting parties, the Government--as sovereign--does indeed have the right to terminate its own contracts for the convenience of the Government.  However, when it exercises this termination authority, the Government is also required to compensate the contractor for his costs incurred, his unavoidable future costs, subcontracts, and other damages. Thus the Government contracting agency, when it exercises its rights under the Termination for Convenience clause, may often incur costs that are almost as great as if the terminated contract had been fully performed.  In this particular case, the termination of these CIA contracts is essentially a waste of CIA and taxpayer resources that arises solely as a result of the contradictions inherent in Liberal policy, i.e., because Liberals are ideologically and morally unreconciled to the use of force against enemies of the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Terminating security contracts at the sites would save &#8216;at least $4 million,&#8217; Mr. Panetta said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is yet another instance of Liberalism vs. Reality, and the Liberal inaptitude for governing.  The Government does not have the legal right to a no-cost termination of its contracts.  Unlike ordinary contracting parties, the Government&#8211;as sovereign&#8211;does indeed have the right to terminate its own contracts for the convenience of the Government.  However, when it exercises this termination authority, the Government is also required to compensate the contractor for his costs incurred, his unavoidable future costs, subcontracts, and other damages. Thus the Government contracting agency, when it exercises its rights under the Termination for Convenience clause, may often incur costs that are almost as great as if the terminated contract had been fully performed.  In this particular case, the termination of these CIA contracts is essentially a waste of CIA and taxpayer resources that arises solely as a result of the contradictions inherent in Liberal policy, i.e., because Liberals are ideologically and morally unreconciled to the use of force against enemies of the US.</p>
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		<title>By: pdsand</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdsand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The international branches of the democrat party, like al-qaeda, hamas and the international red cross, might condemn american torture and bush and say they&#039;re the reason they are able to recruit.  But in reality, the crazies that they find to carry out the suicide bombings were probably going to find their way to terrorism one way or the other.  If it&#039;s not because of torture, or the iraq war, it would be because the yankees won the world series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The international branches of the democrat party, like al-qaeda, hamas and the international red cross, might condemn american torture and bush and say they&#8217;re the reason they are able to recruit.  But in reality, the crazies that they find to carry out the suicide bombings were probably going to find their way to terrorism one way or the other.  If it&#8217;s not because of torture, or the iraq war, it would be because the yankees won the world series.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pd, good point.

You know, we hear statements like this over and over and over but nobody in the media ever asks whether they make an iota of sense.

And after hearing the same thing over and over, many people believe it, no matter how dumb it is.

On this one, we are expected to believe that if we are peachy nice to terrorists they will lose interest in being killing us, and move onto a career in child-care instead.   It&#039;s so beyond looney that it makes you wonder about the sanity of the people who believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pd, good point.</p>
<p>You know, we hear statements like this over and over and over but nobody in the media ever asks whether they make an iota of sense.</p>
<p>And after hearing the same thing over and over, many people believe it, no matter how dumb it is.</p>
<p>On this one, we are expected to believe that if we are peachy nice to terrorists they will lose interest in being killing us, and move onto a career in child-care instead.   It&#8217;s so beyond looney that it makes you wonder about the sanity of the people who believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: pdsand</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-has-closed-the-cias-secret-prisons#comment-142155</link>
		<dc:creator>pdsand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;By contrast, President Obama and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. insist that the use of techniques they describe as torture betrayed American values, alienated allies and became a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda&quot;

I have a hard time believing that&#039;s a very powerful recruiting tool at all.  
&#039;If you come fight for us, and make a mistake and get captured, then the U.S. will hold you indefinitely in a place that no one knows about, and torture you until you betray all our secrets.  Now who&#039;s in?
Hey, where&#039;s everybody going!&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By contrast, President Obama and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. insist that the use of techniques they describe as torture betrayed American values, alienated allies and became a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda&#8221;</p>
<p>I have a hard time believing that&#8217;s a very powerful recruiting tool at all.<br />
&#8216;If you come fight for us, and make a mistake and get captured, then the U.S. will hold you indefinitely in a place that no one knows about, and torture you until you betray all our secrets.  Now who&#8217;s in?<br />
Hey, where&#8217;s everybody going!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: caligirl9</title>
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		<dc:creator>caligirl9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Harsh interrogations?&quot; 

So what&#039;s the &quot;new style?&quot; &quot;Please tell us about the terrorist plot you are cooking up with [fill in the name of the splinter group, nation, religion] and I will make sure you get ice cold milk with those cookies!

Somewhere in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan, Bin Laden is partying and planning with glee. Not &quot;if&quot;—it&#039;s more like &quot;when.&quot;

I type this somewhat with trepidation, but does anyone else remember why Charles Manson and his &quot;family&quot; wanted to find that hole in the desert to hide out in, and what he and his followers would come up to, and why Manson and his family would then rule the world? Looks like he may have been right... 40 years later.

Answer is here, first paragraph: http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html

It&#039;s coming to pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Harsh interrogations?&#8221; </p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the &#8220;new style?&#8221; &#8220;Please tell us about the terrorist plot you are cooking up with [fill in the name of the splinter group, nation, religion] and I will make sure you get ice cold milk with those cookies!</p>
<p>Somewhere in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan, Bin Laden is partying and planning with glee. Not &#8220;if&#8221;—it&#8217;s more like &#8220;when.&#8221;</p>
<p>I type this somewhat with trepidation, but does anyone else remember why Charles Manson and his &#8220;family&#8221; wanted to find that hole in the desert to hide out in, and what he and his followers would come up to, and why Manson and his family would then rule the world? Looks like he may have been right&#8230; 40 years later.</p>
<p>Answer is here, first paragraph: <a href="http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.umkc.edu/facult.....count.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s coming to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberals Demise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberals Demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve....your are DEAD ON when you say, &quot;We must hold the people responsible if we ever suffer another terrorist attack because of their dangerous actions&quot;

But let me add that it isn&#039;t &quot;if&quot; they ever ......... it should be &quot;when&quot; because as sure as Barney Fwank is a closet member of NAMBLA, we are gonna be hit again. 

This clears a path for the &quot;TERRORIST to whack us with &quot;OUR&quot; governments blessing!!
Should this happen........let the GOVERNMENT heads roll!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve&#8230;.your are DEAD ON when you say, &#8220;We must hold the people responsible if we ever suffer another terrorist attack because of their dangerous actions&#8221;</p>
<p>But let me add that it isn&#8217;t &#8220;if&#8221; they ever &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; it should be &#8220;when&#8221; because as sure as Barney Fwank is a closet member of NAMBLA, we are gonna be hit again. </p>
<p>This clears a path for the &#8220;TERRORIST to whack us with &#8220;OUR&#8221; governments blessing!!<br />
Should this happen&#8230;&#8230;..let the GOVERNMENT heads roll!!</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canary, YOU are more likely to be imprisoned than real enemies of our country.

The new strategy for the &quot;overseas contingency operations&quot; is to be nice to everyone and they will be nice to us.

And note the word &quot;overseas&quot;.   That means there is no thought there might be any &quot;contingency&quot; operations in the US.

And why should there be?  The real enemy has always been white conservatives, who have oppressed everyone else for so long.

Now that the good guys have won, there really isn&#039;t even a need for prisons anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canary, YOU are more likely to be imprisoned than real enemies of our country.</p>
<p>The new strategy for the &#8220;overseas contingency operations&#8221; is to be nice to everyone and they will be nice to us.</p>
<p>And note the word &#8220;overseas&#8221;.   That means there is no thought there might be any &#8220;contingency&#8221; operations in the US.</p>
<p>And why should there be?  The real enemy has always been white conservatives, who have oppressed everyone else for so long.</p>
<p>Now that the good guys have won, there really isn&#8217;t even a need for prisons anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
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		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CIA has taken no prisoners since Obama new inexperienced CIA appointed. 

One of the first things the Bush administration did was arrest FBI Robert Mueller, under Clinton. Mueller had been selling all our secrets to Russia. Today, Mueller would have been given an award for working with Russia.

From the Associated Press:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;CIA fires contractors guarding secret prisons&lt;/strong&gt;

WASHINGTON – CIA Director Leon Panetta has told Congress the spy agency has taken no new prisoners since he became director in February.

He also says the CIA has terminated contracts with private companies that provided security at secret overseas CIA prisons. That will save up to $4 million.

Panetta told agency employees in an e-mail Thursday that the secret prisons are no longer used and the CIA is making plans to permanently shutter them.

But the CIA can still hold prisoners temporarily. Panetta says if more prisoners are taken, they will be interrogated by agency employees and handed over quickly to their home country or a country with a legal claim.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090409/ap_on_go_ot/cia_prisoners&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CIA has taken no prisoners since Obama new inexperienced CIA appointed. </p>
<p>One of the first things the Bush administration did was arrest FBI Robert Mueller, under Clinton. Mueller had been selling all our secrets to Russia. Today, Mueller would have been given an award for working with Russia.</p>
<p>From the Associated Press:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>CIA fires contractors guarding secret prisons</strong></p>
<p>WASHINGTON – CIA Director Leon Panetta has told Congress the spy agency has taken no new prisoners since he became director in February.</p>
<p>He also says the CIA has terminated contracts with private companies that provided security at secret overseas CIA prisons. That will save up to $4 million.</p>
<p>Panetta told agency employees in an e-mail Thursday that the secret prisons are no longer used and the CIA is making plans to permanently shutter them.</p>
<p>But the CIA can still hold prisoners temporarily. Panetta says if more prisoners are taken, they will be interrogated by agency employees and handed over quickly to their home country or a country with a legal claim.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090409/ap_on_go_ot/cia_prisoners" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200....._prisoners</a></p></blockquote>
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