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Obama Sent 13K Afghan Support Troops

From a conflicted Washington Post:

US Marines are engulfed in a storm of dust and debris as a CH-53 helicopter lands to transport them from their forward operating base in Farah Province, southern Afghanistan, on October 12.

Support Troops Swelling U.S. Force in Afghanistan

Additional Deployments Not Announced and Rarely Noted

By Ann Scott Tyson
Tuesday, October 13, 2009

President Obama announced in March that he would be sending 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan. But in an unannounced move, the White House has also authorized — and the Pentagon is deploying — at least 13,000 troops beyond that number, according to defense officials.

The additional troops are primarily support forces, including engineers, medical personnel, intelligence experts and military police. Their deployment has received little mention by officials at the Pentagon and the White House, who have spoken more publicly about the combat troops who have been sent to Afghanistan.

The deployment of the support troops to Afghanistan brings the total increase approved by Obama to 34,000. The buildup has raised the number of U.S. troops deployed to the war zones of Iraq and Afghanistan above the peak during the Iraq "surge" that President George W. Bush ordered, officials said.

The deployment does not change the maximum number of service members expected to soon be in Afghanistan: 68,000, more than double the number there when Bush left office. Still, it suggests that a significant number of support troops, in addition to combat forces, would be needed to meet commanders’ demands. It also underscores the growing strain on U.S. ground troops, raising practical questions about how the Army and Marine Corps would meet a request from Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan.

Defense experts said the military usually requires that thousands of support troops deploy for each combat brigade of about 4,000. That, in turn, exacerbates the strain on the force, in part because support troops are some of the most heavily demanded in the military and are still needed in large numbers in Iraq

Is the Washington Post trying to expose a sub rosa escalation of troops in Afghanistan? Are they trying to relive their salad days of Vietnam?

Or are they trying to give Mr. Obama cover in case he decides the US can’t send many more troops to Afghanistan after all:

It also underscores the growing strain on U.S. ground troops, raising practical questions about how the Army and Marine Corps would meet a request from Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan.

We are leaning to the latter view.

This article was posted by Steve on Tuesday, October 13th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

13 Responses to “Obama Sent 13K Afghan Support Troops”

  1. BannedbytheTaliban says:

    A half a$$ decision from a half @ss president.

    And notice these aren’t even combat troops. They are support personell. That way the Taliban will have some nice new infastructure when we hand Afghanistan back to them when Obama pulls out just before his imminent 2012 loss. But I’m not worried, the AP informs me Afghanistan was much nicer before Bush messed it up.

    • TwilightZoned says:

      Either send the support necessary or pull everyone out. A half a$$ed decision from a half @ssed president is right! Hanging our good soldiers out to dry, causing what will most likely be needless deaths, due to lack of combat troops because it’s not politically expedient is abhorrent. Typical “how will this effect me?” To think so little of life is nauseating.

  2. Reality Bytes says:

    Maybe we tell Obama Afghanistan is one of the 57 states that’s blue & he’ll go instead.

  3. catie says:

    So, we’re supposed to jump for joy while he dithers with what McChrystal has asked for?

  4. caligirl9 says:

    Whenever I read stuff like this (give our troops something they can use but don’t give them 100% of what they need), it makes me wish I wasn’t so crippled up and old—I’d be honored to serve our troops in medical support. Alas, I am too crippled to do much of anything :( Bless our troops, they deserve our thanks and prayers every day.

  5. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Well, take comfort gang:

    The AP says it will all be OK.

    Obama: Afghanistan decision in ‘coming weeks’

    By JULIE PACE, Associated Press Writer Julie Pace, Associated Press Writer – Tue Oct 13, 4:04 pm ET


    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said his decision on the U.S. strategy in Afghanistan will be made in “the coming weeks.” While military and security decisions will be an important element in that strategy, Obama said “another element is making sure we’re doing a good job in building capacity on the civilian side.”

    The Obama administration is in the midst of an intensely debated review over how to overhaul its approach to the Afghan conflict. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan is believed to have presented Obama with a range of options, from adding as few as 10,000 troops to — the general’s strong preference — as many as 40,000.

    Obama has held four meetings top-level meetings with key administration officials. A fifth meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, and a sixth will be held next week.

    Though he gave no indication of what he will decide, Obama said the U.S. mission in Afghanistan hasn’t changed.

    And what mission would that be, barry? And what do the existing troops do while you look at yourself in the mirror?

    Coming WEEKS? Remember the stimuless BS? Had to be done NOW? The GM/Chrysler takeover had to be done NOW? The AIG Bailout had to be done NOW?

    So what if American GI’s need help NOW. They can wait. Right? After all, they volunteered, they should expect to get treated like crap by a little snert like you.

    • JohnMG says:

      Rusty Shackleford…..” by a little snert like you……”

      Let me fix that for you Rusty. When refering to Obama it should read “by a little shit like you”. Flows much better, wouldn’t you say?

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      As you wish, sir.

      I’m only trying to obey Steve’s rules, hard though that may be. Also, I would like to think I try to avoid name-calling on a purely emotional basis, as is the wont of the liberals. I at least like to get a reasonable argument in before I go on a name-calling rant. Many times I have to edit what I wrote before I click “submit” because my first draft is often pretty course.

      Although I feel more informed than ever, I am angry, frustrated and very discouraged that this whole government is driven by a mess of self-righteous hippies who, by definition are being exactly the ugliness they themselves have railed against for the past 40+ years. Angry women is one thing, but angry, self-righteous hippies with an agenda and lots of dead brain cells is far, far worse.

      They have vengeance on their minds and in their hearts. And “snert” is the most polite thing I could think of to get my point across. That “president” and I are the same age and yet, when I was growing up, I couldn’t abide hippies. He seems to admire them.

      I went to school with kids who’s older brothers and sisters were sucked into that whole mess and I distinctly remember conversations that ended with me saying, “Your brother/sister is an idiot. Just how much of that stuff do they smoke anyhow?”

      Now they are in government with an agenda to make everything “fair” and “equal” and “level” and they never for once imagined that such a thing isn’t possible. They never once understand that their intentions are as warped and twisted as the very entity’s they screamed about in the past four decades. Yet they never recognize that their own fortunes have been made on the backs of the very poor, oppressed people they claim to represent.

      And on and on and on…preaching to the choir, I know.

      For most of my life, I have had to suck hind tit to the 60’s “movement” which has, through market studies, etc, decided what I wear, how I live my life, what I should read, etc. Even my friggin DIET. And, as always, the people in my peer group, knowing no better, follow along and adopt eating rice cakes for lunch (AKA cardboard) and espousing “clean-living”.

      Obama is one of those followers. Before he makes any move at all…it has to pas through his “cool” filter. Not the “KOOL” filter on the end of his cigarette, but the one I recognized in junior high and high school where if you did anything that was geeky…or could be accused of being geeky…you either didn’t do it or you never let on that you ever did. And Obama is clearly a dork. Not that that in itself is bad. It’s that he’s a dork pretending to be the cool kid…which is the pinnacle of disloyalty to dorks everywhere. But he decided, years ago, to associate himself with “bad muthas” and thus, wanted to be one himself. The lies didn’t necessarily start with his words…they started with his mannerisms and attitudes. And he’s still seeking the approval of the cool kids as he denies, even to himself, that he is being used and manipulated by same.

      Although, I hardly find the members of our government to actually be the “cool kids”. But Obama thinks they are and he wants their approval.

      Well, I’m not a hippy, former or otherwise and I’m sick of hearing them utter their contrivances, expecting that simply by repeating them, they must be factual and accurate and true. And everyone (who’s cool) must do them.

      You know what one science teacher flat out told me while I was in high school in the 70’s? He said, “Thank god that group is gone (hippies). I never had more trouble trying to teach anything than with that bunch” If only they knew. Because now, a whole new group of teachers are having to educate their KIDS and GRANDKIDS…..and I’m reading all the time that it’s no great shakes.

      I’m sick of it. I want to get off but there’s no stop button. I thought the Reagan years were great..and apparently, so did the hippies because they started buying everything in sight, making prices go up…so that when I came along, I couldn’t afford anything. Not a “blame” thing..mind you…not entirely. Just a fact of economics, really. But now, while they are at the front door of their “golden years” they are nostalgic for the “world changing” crapola they did in the 60’s, or so they think.

      And, what they are doing while they have the reins of power is a total stick in the eye to any and all conservative ideas. They claim to want bipartisanship but come on, we all know it’s a ruse that they say that with a wink and a nod to their own kind while they heat up another poker to stick it to yet another “cooperative” republican.

      And they do it to their own kind as well.

      I am not a child of the 60’s. I did not have to “deal with” Vietnam. I don’t do, and never did drugs. I don’t think drug addiction is a “disease”. I think it starts with a very bad decision and then the idiot who made the choice has to live in trap of their own making. I think that many in power, regardless of right or left, get full of themselves and become rather egotistical and arrogant. Cops are especially known for this. Tough job, requires extraordinary character. Not that much of it going around these days. But the people who are supposed to be wise and thoughtful are just old. As they say, “With age comes wisdom” But Will Rogers cleared it up…He said, “…But sometimes age just shows up all by iteslf”.

      Permissive society….sucks.

      My parents were very strict and I was familiar with rules. Yet in my first few years in the USAF, I could not believe the problems my own “peers” would get into. Maybe a wake up call of sorts but I had hoped for the days when it would get better and the world would even out. But no.

      Whack jobs like Pelosi and Reid and Holder and Frank keep finding themselves in the house of power and they have no self-critiquing abilities and they always think they need to “do something”. I could go on about how the human mind works here and why they think their ideas and actions are so much more valuable than anyone else’s..but that would take all night.

      I can only report what I observe and I am observing crap. I also have the benefit of seeing how things in the past have matriculated into the present which removes any optimism I have for the future. It ain’t pretty. There are reasons why “slow and steady” and “ounce of prevention/pound of cure” and “throwing out the baby with the bathwater” became tried and true cliche’s of our society. They exemplify the truth from experience.

      I used to just laugh at hippies. I never thought they would try to run anything….but I noted the epic failures when they did. And now we have one called the US Government. And it is one mega-failure.

  6. canary says:

    Rusty, the problem is that yesterday’s hippies that didn’t grow up, have digressed further down to the mentality of today’s youth which is much worse than yesterday’s. A breed that tries to top the other’s evil or outrageous acts. This is a rebellious growing group running the government. They have no class; just trash. Their party will come to an end. Don’t lose hope.

  7. bronzeprofessor says:

    Dear Sweetness friends,

    Long time no post…. I am still in LA, because my ship date was moved to January. But you wouldn’t believe what has been happening to me. If you read this post and think the looney leftists are really clueless about military policy, I have to tell you — they are loonier and more leftist than you could possibly imagine in your wildest paranoid fantasies.

    Consider this:

    I have learned more about liberals in the last three months than ever before. Note below, the link to a conference I have planned with grant money from the Washington intel community:


    I got the grant because the previous grant director was fired for taking the money and not doing anything to spread public awareness of intelligence and national security. So my job from get-go was to “change the campus culture” and get the university to speak more intelligently about matters of military and intelligence policy.


    I thought the best way to avoid being murdered by the hippies I work with, was to team up with a surefire liberal stronghold like the Center for Sex and Gender Research (I actually sincerely care a lot about women’s rights by the way which is why I signed up for the Army, to fight the misogyny of the Taliban). So I figured, why not be bipartisan and show the world that liberals and conservatives can communicate with each other? I put a big chunk of grant money to a conference on women’s issues….

    But what was I thinking? I’ve been threatened, harrassed, ridiculed, and ostracized by half the faculty at my university, merely for agreeing to work on a grant tied remotely to the CIA, despite the fact that the Dean needed me to take over the grant, or risk losing lots of federal money. And the sad thing is that all these Obama-supporting people with PhDs can’t even articulate clearly why they are so angry about me working on a grant that helps the President they campaigned for, and giving students the opportunity to present research on the mutual relevance of gender equality and national security.

    Here’s what I’ve been accused of:

    –“Using” women’s rights as a ploy to cover up the military
    –Secretly working to overthrow Pres. Obama (because I am Republican, they think I am a birther and a white supremacist “tea-bagger” who joined the Army to get militia training)
    –Recruiting for the CIA secretly and only pretending to organize a conference
    –Spying on my colleagues
    –Endorsing torture or enjoying torture (this is one theory about why I signed up for the Army)
    –Pressuring students to report their professors to intelligence agencies
    –Creating an air of “surveillance and distrust” by forwarding an article from CNN to the listserv
    –Trying to turn my colleagues into recruiters
    –“Militarizing” the campus
    –Conspiring with the Chancellor to destroy public education as part of a capitalist plot
    –Having secretly been sworn into the CIA, and using my job as a professor as a front
    –Murder (I’m not kidding)
    –Secretly collecting bonuses from the Army for recruiting new spies or turning in colleagues for being unpatriotic

    Absolutely nothing above has any link to reality, whatsoever. But I have colleagues who routinely slander me on listservs and circulate these theories with total certainty.

    And all these people voted for Obama a year ago, swearing up and down that Obama was strong on national security and Afghanistan was the good war to fight.

    I do believe we have to win in Afghanistan, and can. But I’ve learned that the best policy for national security is to expect nothing from the Left at all and simply wait until they’ve screwed up so badly that they have to let conservatives make decisions for them.

  8. canary says:

    Just explain to them with the enormous increase of war veterans are going to college, because they are using their GI bill, and benefit the earned for risking their lives so that students in colleges weren’t blown up.
    Just explain to them how difficult it is for returning soldiers to socially adjust after war, yet alone, find themselves surrounded by liberals who insult them.
    That while, people in America are not spitting on vets as they did Vietnam Vets returning, they still discriminate and have predjudice against soldiers, who are serving a stupid commander in chief, that knows nothing about the military.
    Show them the footage below, and tell them you are working for Obama in more ways than one, and that by understanding the military culture increasing on campus’s, they might handle doing basic training and jumping-jacks as the Obama will expect from them.


  9. proreason says:

    With 1000 words in 1 day, Ann Coulter says more wisdom about Afghanistan than 10,000 other writers have said in thousands of days with millions of words.


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