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Obama Mocks Nancy Reagan, Not Hillary?

From the President Select’s press conference today, via Fox News and YouTube:

Never mind that there is no record of Mrs. Reagan ever having speaks with the dead.

Unlike a certain Mrs. Rodham Clinton.

The following is from an article we posted back in October of 2007, When Hillary “Channeled” Eleanor Roosevelt.

From a 2004 article that appeared in the Sunday Business Post:

Presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., speaks at the 7th annual Eleanor Roosevelt Legacy committee luncheon, Monday, Oct. 15, 2007, in New York.

Succour for suckers

Sunday, February 01, 2004

By Jennifer O’Connell

Stuck in a relationship rut? Suffering from low self-esteem?

Want to give up smoking? Can’t get a boyfriend? Can’t get a job running a powerful new world economy? Want to invade a small Middle-Eastern country but unsure if the planets are suitably aligned? Concerned about what the placement of plants in your living room is doing to your chakras? …

In 1994, reeling from the Democrats’ defeat in congressional elections, Hillary Clinton, that otherwise apparently sane woman, invited five professional feel gooders to spend the weekend with her and Bill. They included Stephen Covey, author of the Seven Habits of Highly Successful People and Jean Houston, a self-styled “sacred psychologist”.

As the weekend wore on, it was increasingly dominated by Hillary’s own problems.

Houston, who felt that “being Hillary Clinton was like being Mozart with his hands cut off”, informed the First Lady that she was “carrying the burden of 5,000 years of history when women were subservient . . . probably more than virtually any woman in human history – apart from Joan of Arc”.

Houston and the latter-day Joan conducted seances in which they consulted Clinton’s ’spiritual archetypes’, Eleanor Roosevelt and Mahatma Gandhi.

When it came out, the reaction of Republicans to Wackygate was uncharacteristically muted…

From Carl Bernstein’s book, A Woman In Charge, pp 412-7:

Truth or Consequences

Of all the New Age thinkers the Clintons had gotten to know from these weekends, few had intrigued Hillary (and millions of other Americans) more than Texas-born Marianne Williamson. Like many New Age authors and circuit-riders, Williamson’s résumé was a mix of the serious (infusing politics with spiritual principles), the celebritized (presiding over Elizabeth Taylor’s eighth wedding), and the silly (promoting a version of solitaire with a fifty-card “miracle deck”). She was five years younger than Hillary, and her “underlying message,” according to one reviewer, “encourag[ed] women to seek and find God via the love inside themselves and to reinforce their sense of self-esteem.”

In December, when Hillary seemed near the point of emotional collapse, with Bill deeply depressed and dysfunctional and their political future imperiled, Hillary reached out to Williamson. New Age thought borrowed heavily from traditional theology, especially its message of going deep within and finding personal strength in adversity. No one had preached this message more effectively, or profitably, than Williamson, who took the initiative to suggest that Hillary and Bill consider getting together with her and a group of people far removed from the political establishment to discuss alternative ways of looking at the next two years of the presidency, and the difficulties of the previous two…

For the Camp David weekend, Williamson had also engaged two lesser-known women on the seminar and lecture circuit whom she thought Hillary would take comfort in talking to in her current state: Mary Catherine Bateson and Jean Houston, who often worked in tandem…

Jean Houston, with her husband, Dr. Robert E. L. Masters, was co-director of the Foundation for Mind Research, in Pomona, New York, best known for research into psychedelic drugs, hypnosis, sexual behavior, and “humanistic psychology.”

She was also founder and principal teacher of “the Mystery School,” a bicoastal seminar ($2,995 per student) of “cross-cultural, mythic and spiritual studies, dedicated to teaching history, philosophy, the New Physics, psychology, anthropology, myth and the many dimensions of human potential.” She described herself as a “scholar, philosopher and researcher in Human Capacities.” …

There were hardly any staff members present for the weekend, partly to keep the sessions, with their obvious potential for ridicule, from leaking. In summoning the participants, Williamson had told them that Hillary was at a “low point” and wanted to discuss, among other things, how to better communicate the administration’s message in the next two years. Houston “did the major guiding” (as she later put it), which evolved into a discussion of “the communication of visions”—which, of course, harked back to the Camp David staff meeting of April 1993 in which Hillary had been so adamant both about communicating the new presidency’s “vision” and concomitantly demonizing the Clintons’ enemies and Democratic skeptics alike…

BOTH BATESON and Houston were shocked at how fragile and confused Hillary seemed: “battered . . . tormented” (noted Houston), lacking her customary confidence in herself, clearly exhausted—reaching out for some help, and settling on a course of making things better through prayer, travel, and writing. When Houston asked Hillary some of the same questions she had asked Bill, the first lady had hardly responded.

Later Hillary would write about summoning the strong voices inside oneself of parents, mentors, and teachers whose messages of encouragement and care helped children grow into confident, capable adults able to weather the inevitable storms of a lifetime. But at this juncture Hillary seemed depleted even of those voices.

The one voice she seemed to identify with was Eleanor Roosevelt’s. Eleanor had gone through some of the same trials and experiences—including the kind of opprobrium Hillary had been subjected to, said the first lady. She was intrigued that Houston, who was ten years older than herself, had known Eleanor…

Hillary, in her fourth week in the White House, had spoken at a dinner in Manhattan to raise funds for a statue of Eleanor Roosevelt, to be erected nearby at the entrance of Riverside Park. “I thought about all the conversations I’ve had in my head with Mrs. Roosevelt this year, one of the saving graces that I have hung on to for dear life,” said Hillary in her remarks. In these “conversations,” she looked to Eleanor for guidance, encouragement, and insight. Among the questions she had sought Eleanor’s answers to were, “How did you put up with this?” and “How did you go on day to day, with all the attacks and criticisms that would be hurled your way?”

Houston told Hillary that, like Eleanor, she was being made to suffer for functioning as a woman in a metier that was too associated with men for her to be accepted without savage criticism and resistance. It was as if she were carrying the history of womankind on her back. But now Hillary was on the cusp of almost biblical opportunity, far greater than Eleanor’s because this was an era in which a lone figure like Hillary could break through on behalf of all women. But first she needed to find her voice, to promote her powerful message that transcended mere politics: a woman’s voice, speaking about children and families and principles and policies that would make the world a better place.

And on this Jean and Mary Catherine promised they could help her, by shaping the book Hillary said she was about to begin writing. “I was essentially an editor; I’d written a whole lot of books,” Houston said. “My whole life has been devoted to pushing the membrane of the possible, to push the boundaries of human capacity.” Those books included The Varieties of Psychedelic Experience: The Classic Guide to the Effects of LSD on the Human Psyche, written with her husband; The Passion of Isis and Osiris, which used Egyptian myth as a modern “design for the marriage of body and soul, life and death, the tangible and the hidden”; and Godseed: The Journey of Christ, in which, through “mythology, Jungian psychology, mysticism, anthropology, new science, and just plain creativity,” Houston suggested ways to “experience the Christ life.” …

Whatever Houston and Bateson could contribute to the book, what they felt was most important was to encourage her to “act as if” all the attacks, reproof, and disparagement were not something she absorbed and bought into (as Jean had put it), to not let it erode her own belief in herself. Her faith in her own competence and abilities had been deeply shaken, they believed. Her defenses were so weak that “hostile messages” were taking root in her being. It was important that Hillary not believe she had become the person her critics claimed she was.

Within two weeks, the press was on to the Camp David weekend, gleefully tweaking details about the first family’s “convention of New Age guru authors.” The Washington Post took special note that “personal growth guru” Jean Houston “specialized in walking on hot coals as a demonstration of the power of positive thinking,” though not on this particular weekend.

Bill Clinton was not amused. His press secretary repeatedly denied that he “lacks a sense of who he is as president and where he wants to go.” The same story in the Post noted that New Age guru-ism is mostly alien to Washington’s practical political culture. None of the stories, however, covered what was discussed. Nor were the reporters who wrote them cognizant of how vulnerable and desperate for answers Hillary was…

And from Bay Buchanan’s book, Extreme Makeover, pg. 32, we have these further details:

The Personality

Jean Houston became a close advisor of Hillary’s, and on numerous occasions she stayed at the Whine House for days at a time. She worked with Hillary through therapy sessions designed to help the First Lady reach her full human potential. Part of the therapy, often called “channeling,” included guiding Hillary in conversations with the dead—Eleanor Roosevelt and Mahatma Gandhi to be precise.

Houston understood firsthand the value of this exercise. In a 1989 conference she told a crowd of 6,000 she had contacted the Hindu goddess Sarasvati while meditating on the Ganges River in India.

In his book The Choice, Bob Woodward writes that one day, after finishing up a discussion with Eleanor, “Houston asked Hillary to carry on a conversation with Mahatma Gandhi, the Hindu leader, a powerful symbol of stoic denial. Talk to him, Houston said. What would you say and what would you ask?” And Hillary did. “It was a strong personal outpouring,” Woodward reported. Gandhi’s response went unreported.

While Woodward refers to Houston as Hillary’s “spiritual advisor,” the First Lady refutes it in her book, instead calling Houston a dynamic, witty, and knowledgeable woman who was great medicine for “anyone in need of a good laugh.” Hillary has a point here. Tell me to talk to the dead and I’d fall over laughing.

Maybe all those former First Ladies look alike.

(And what’s with that new “seal”?)

This article was posted by Steve on Friday, November 7th, 2008. Comments are currently closed.

30 Responses to “Obama Mocks Nancy Reagan, Not Hillary?”

  1. texaspsue says:

    “(And what’s with that new “seal”?)”

    (And what’s with “The Office of the President Elect”??) Huh?

    All I can say is, this is going to be an unbelievable four years.

  2. Phil Byler says:

    Obama makes these kind of comments because he has a defective character. We will see soon enough.

  3. DEZ says:

    “Obama makes these kind of comments because he has a defective character.”

    That gets the post of the day award!

  4. gipper says:

    The Office of the President Elect is a converted coat closet.

    I watched this live and I could not believe he went there. He also didn’t seem very presidential with all of his “uhs” and “ums”. Rush Limbaugh is right. Obama has to process and reprocess what he wants to say before he says it because he doesn’t want to tell you what he really thinks. He wants to hide that. That’s where you get the “uhs” and “ums”.

  5. Steve says:

    Mr. Obama also took a grand total of NINE questions.

    And none of them from Fox News.

  6. A Mad Pole says:

    Phil: “Obama makes these kind of comments because he has a defective character. We will see soon enough.”

    Wrong. We here have known that for quite a long time now.

  7. 1sttofight says:

    I can’t believe he screwed up his very first press conference, No wait, yes I can believe it.

    Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan for ‘careless’ joke

    President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan this afternoon to apologize for a joke about her having held “séances” in the White House, an Obama aide said.

    “President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan today to apologize for the careless and off handed remark he made during today’s press conference,” said transition spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter. “The President-elect expressed his admiration and affection for Mrs. Reagan that so many Americans share and they had a warm conversation.”

    Obama was asked at his press conference today if he’d spoken to all the “living” presidents.

    “I have spoken to all of them who are living,” he responded. “I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any séances.”

    He was apparently confusing stories about Reagan’s consulting with an astrologer with those about other First Ladies — from Mary Todd Lincoln to Hillary Clinton — who tried to make contact with figures from the past.


  8. Colonel1961 says:

    He has apparently called Nancy and apologized. A decent gesture…

  9. Liberals Make Great Speedbumps says:

    “He has apparently called Nancy and apologized. A decent gesture…”

    Genuine and heartfelt also, I’m sure, Colonel

  10. Colonel1961 says:

    Indeed. He did it out of the goodness of his heart…

  11. DEZ says:

    “He has apparently called Nancy and apologized. A decent gesture…’

    Yup kinda like pissing in somebodies cornflakes, and saying, oh, sorry, after they get a big mouthful.
    Not picking on you Colonel, I have been around condescending assh**es before.
    Obama is a Sycophantic friend that will insult you and grin, hoping you will think he is only joking.

    Maybe I missed the sarcasm?
    But I think he meant to be a prick!

  12. 1sttofight says:

    But I think he meant to be a prick!

    He can’t help it.

  13. therightguy says:

    Obama has hubris, plain and simple, and the reason for it is that he’s been unchecked like a some sociopath like Bundy, where once they get a taste for it, it emboldens them. Obama has made a habit of going after people that either cannot respond or will not, Like Ayn Rand, for instance, who is dead. Combine that with the fact that he is a conduit for 60’s radical left thinking, and we are in for a rough ride.

  14. TickTock says:

    Change? Outright leftist drivel. Obama is an idiot for the remark he made.

    Such an adolescent slip tells volumes about what this guy really is.

  15. Lipstick on a PIAPS says:

    Does anyone else but me find that trying to somehow use the Presidential Seal of the United States, while actually not being PRESIDENT, is illegal?! Is there like a mind numbing ray that permeates somewhere in the United States that excludes Democrats from the laws of the said country?!? What the HELL is wrong with the justice department on this and other crimes?!?

  16. Lipstick on a PIAPS says:

    Hmmmm mixed up Nancy Reagan and Hillary Clinton? I guess they ALL look alike. And they called Sarah Palin stupid! Look who’s calling the kettle BLACK now! LMAO

  17. Liberals Demise says:

    OK…I’ll tell you why he went after Nancy and not Hildabeast…….Frau Hilda would rip his eyes out and sew them to his lips so next time he would see what he was saying!! You attack the frail and weak. This way it makes you all pumped up for your next target, little kids and their candycanes. Do you see the progression here?

  18. JohnMG says:

    This is one hateful man. Are we the only people who realize what’s going on here and still care?

    Obama gets to say what he feels even though he knows he’ll get called on it. Thus he shows ….”antipithy for those who are different”…… from himself. Then he issues a shallow and insincere apology and leaves it to some thire-rate staffer to convey the act. This was no apology, it was/is damage controll, but you can believe he and his ilk are still laughing up their sleeves.

  19. Colonel1961 says:

    Sarcasm o’plenty on my part, indeed…

  20. CGardner says:

    Obama better shut his mouth before he insults some of his crazy New Age fans. From People magazine:



    “Oprah Winfrey has been one of Barack Obama’s most outspoken supporters over the course of his campaign, and she’s already planning the next step — what to wear to his inauguration ball! Winfrey called into N.Y.C.’s Power 105.1 Radio Station this morning to talk with host Ed Lover, and revealed her sartorial plan for the big night. Turns out that she not only already has the dress, but she’s been planning it since February with “vision boards”! Winfrey explained, “So help me God, I am looking at it right now…. Actually I started in February. I was speaking with Michelle [Obama] and Caroline Kennedy and Maria Shriver — we were all doing a big rally out in California. At the end of the rally Michelle Obama said something powerful, ‘and I want you to leave here and envision Barack Obama taking the oath of office’…. I created a vision board. I had never had a vision board before. I came home, I got me a board and put Barack Obama’s picture on it and I put a picture of my dress I want to wear to the inauguration.” And with votes still being cast around the country, the dress has already made its debut out of the closet! “Last week I said to the stylist, ‘Take it out of the closet. Let’s take it out. Let’s hang it up, and let it air out.’”

  21. sheehanjihad says:

    Yeah, I was gonna wear my cutoffs and a t shirt while the coronation took place…..spenind time out back behind the house making a giant paper mache’ finger to put on the roof.

  22. Steve says:

    CNN’s glowing analysis of Mr. Obama’s first press conference (featuring nine whole questions):

    Borger: Obama has take-charge start on tough road ahead

    Gloria Borger says President-elect Barack Obama delivered a clear message at his news conference Friday.

    By Gloria Borger
    CNN Senior Political Analyst

    November 7, 2008

    (CNN) — It was short and to the point: In his first news conference as president-elect, Barack Obama was on message.

    First, he has a plan for handle the economic crisis. Second, he’s not the president yet. And third (pay attention Republicans), this is not a time for partisanship.

    And oh, there was a not-so-subtle challenge to Congress: If you don’t do something in a lame-duck session, I will make it the first order of business when I am sworn in. Message to public: I will take charge.

    It was also clear, though, that Obama is a) tired and b) still getting used to this drill. There is a change of tone, of cadence — and even a slight shift in comfort level…


    Now that the election is over, isn’t it great to see our non-partisan media watchdogs once again taking up their tireless vigil for our country?

  23. JohnMG says:

    …..”And third (pay attention Republicans), this is not a time for partisanship…..”

    Thank you so much, Ms. Borger, for that admonition. I don’t recall such a proclamation issuing from your mouth anytime over the past 8 years. Why is that?

    I intend to cooperate to the same degree as your partisan friends with the large “D’s” behind their names did. No, no, wait! I will redouble my efforts. I’m going to work twice as hard as they did, using the same techniques as have they toward the last administration.

  24. texaspsue says:

    Exactly JohnMG. In keeping with the call for a nonpartisan spirit, I promise to give the new President the same amount of respect that the Democrats gave President Bush. I swear, I promise. :-)

  25. DEZ says:

    Right their with you MG!

  26. sheehanjihad says:

    I can do more to show the same respect Bush got! The democrats set the tone for non partisanship, honor and character when it came to respecting the President. It is up to all of us to keep that spirit alive and well with the new president. On my honor, I will do my best……

  27. Reality Bytes says:

    How about an over/under on how many times Obama gives us the finger the next four years.

  28. JohnMG says:

    Do we actually have to see it, RB or can we count the times we merely sense we’ve been flipped off?

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