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		<title>By: ultimatumthule</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130619</link>
		<dc:creator>ultimatumthule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s Ron Jeremy doing in Gitmo?</description>
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		<title>By: bobbys</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130578</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im surprized they were not released in time to march in the  parade</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im surprized they were not released in time to march in the  parade</p>
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		<title>By: AuntieAM</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130575</link>
		<dc:creator>AuntieAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep hoping someone will shake me and I&#039;ll wake up to find it&#039;s all just a bad dream--but things I really feared would happen, ARE happening.  I really fear for our country.  

Some articles speak of releasing the prisoners.  No word of where they&#039;d be released (most countries don&#039;t want them), so will it be HERE?  Have we gone through the looking glass into some alternate universe or something, that terrorists would be released, while a man who tried to fight them is prosecuted?  

And it doesn&#039;t help at all to consider that McCain wanted to close down Gitmo too.  

I think I&#039;m going to be ill.  For at least 4 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep hoping someone will shake me and I&#8217;ll wake up to find it&#8217;s all just a bad dream&#8211;but things I really feared would happen, ARE happening.  I really fear for our country.  </p>
<p>Some articles speak of releasing the prisoners.  No word of where they&#8217;d be released (most countries don&#8217;t want them), so will it be HERE?  Have we gone through the looking glass into some alternate universe or something, that terrorists would be released, while a man who tried to fight them is prosecuted?  </p>
<p>And it doesn&#8217;t help at all to consider that McCain wanted to close down Gitmo too.  </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m going to be ill.  For at least 4 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Arctain</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130572</link>
		<dc:creator>Arctain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has his first &#039;crisis&#039;; albeit, one that is manufactured by this newly minted administration.

For, on one hand, he must appear to acquiesce to his base and close Gitmo. On the other, he cannot wave a hand freeing the enemy combatants from due process (we are not an empire and he is not an Emperor, yet...) At that, I believe, is what the Obama adminstration learned between the oath and the governance - even the President is constrained by the rule of law. This, of course, came as a shock to a man that hasn&#039;t taken an active role in enacting law...

Unfortunately, we arrived at this junction by way of the same benighted liberalism that declares that enemy combatants are afforded the same protection under the law as the very same citizens they were trying to kill. In a move of due process, the Supreme Court ordered military tribunals for the enemy housed at Gitmo. This was a mistake. Enemy combatants are not afforded the priviledge of due process, precisely because they have acted outside of the protection of the law - A similar scenario would be if pirates took the option to sue for naval protection and peace once caught in the act of piracy.

However (and here is Obama&#039;s conundrum...) once they are classified as falling under the protection of due process, the process must complete itself. One cannot (without pardon) escape the process due. And tus, the only recourse is to delay the process. However, this opens a Pandora&#039;s Box - as the protection of due process also gives the right of speed.

Couple this with the liberal desire to treat terrorism as criminality alone, allows the administration to move from the military courts to the civilian courts (the precedent is already set...), and thus effectively tying the hands of the Obama administration as regards to prosecuting the enemy combatants - for if they are outside the purview of the military, the civilian courts cannot judge cases outside of their jurisdiction. And Afghanistan and Iraq are far outside of civilian court jurisdiction.

Which is exactly where the Obama administration wants to be - closing Gitmo, treating terrorism as a criminal act alone, and releasing the enemy combatants to their respective countries of origin.

The terrorists housed at Gitmo will be released within the year...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has his first &#8216;crisis&#8217;; albeit, one that is manufactured by this newly minted administration.</p>
<p>For, on one hand, he must appear to acquiesce to his base and close Gitmo. On the other, he cannot wave a hand freeing the enemy combatants from due process (we are not an empire and he is not an Emperor, yet&#8230;) At that, I believe, is what the Obama adminstration learned between the oath and the governance &#8211; even the President is constrained by the rule of law. This, of course, came as a shock to a man that hasn&#8217;t taken an active role in enacting law&#8230;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, we arrived at this junction by way of the same benighted liberalism that declares that enemy combatants are afforded the same protection under the law as the very same citizens they were trying to kill. In a move of due process, the Supreme Court ordered military tribunals for the enemy housed at Gitmo. This was a mistake. Enemy combatants are not afforded the priviledge of due process, precisely because they have acted outside of the protection of the law &#8211; A similar scenario would be if pirates took the option to sue for naval protection and peace once caught in the act of piracy.</p>
<p>However (and here is Obama&#8217;s conundrum&#8230;) once they are classified as falling under the protection of due process, the process must complete itself. One cannot (without pardon) escape the process due. And tus, the only recourse is to delay the process. However, this opens a Pandora&#8217;s Box &#8211; as the protection of due process also gives the right of speed.</p>
<p>Couple this with the liberal desire to treat terrorism as criminality alone, allows the administration to move from the military courts to the civilian courts (the precedent is already set&#8230;), and thus effectively tying the hands of the Obama administration as regards to prosecuting the enemy combatants &#8211; for if they are outside the purview of the military, the civilian courts cannot judge cases outside of their jurisdiction. And Afghanistan and Iraq are far outside of civilian court jurisdiction.</p>
<p>Which is exactly where the Obama administration wants to be &#8211; closing Gitmo, treating terrorism as a criminal act alone, and releasing the enemy combatants to their respective countries of origin.</p>
<p>The terrorists housed at Gitmo will be released within the year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Oracle</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130566</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on people! There will be no time for prosecutors to have trials for enemy combatants. All of their time will be utilized on the more imporant task of prosecuting the Bush administration for war crimes. Change is the mantra and change it will be. Focus away from the miscreants and put it on our previous leadership.  Afterall what is more important than bringing criminals to justice? These hairy terrorists have been mistreated far too long. On to the real business of the new administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on people! There will be no time for prosecutors to have trials for enemy combatants. All of their time will be utilized on the more imporant task of prosecuting the Bush administration for war crimes. Change is the mantra and change it will be. Focus away from the miscreants and put it on our previous leadership.  Afterall what is more important than bringing criminals to justice? These hairy terrorists have been mistreated far too long. On to the real business of the new administration.</p>
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		<title>By: pdsand</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130557</link>
		<dc:creator>pdsand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Countdown until Obama press conference stating that his team has reviewed the circumstances after the scoundrel Bush obscured facts and refused to share the critical information, and discovered that these people were illegal enemy combatants not covered by the Geneva conventions after all, and that either the trials will continue, or they will be held until the end of the war: T minus 120 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Countdown until Obama press conference stating that his team has reviewed the circumstances after the scoundrel Bush obscured facts and refused to share the critical information, and discovered that these people were illegal enemy combatants not covered by the Geneva conventions after all, and that either the trials will continue, or they will be held until the end of the war: T minus 120 days.</p>
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		<title>By: pdsand</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130554</link>
		<dc:creator>pdsand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa! What happened to independence of the departments of government from the white house?  After a fashion, aren&#039;t these judges impartial finders of truth, and wasn&#039;t the problem with Bush that the military and other government agencies were doing what the President wanted?  Why is it any better for this judge to acquiesce to Obama&#039;s political demand than for the EPA to issue directives based on Bush&#039;s orders?  I&#039;m sick and dang tired of Obama running this place like a plantation.  People like Col. Parrish have got to exercise their patriotic duty to dissent from what some political hack in the white house says to do, and do what they know in their hearts to be right.  That&#039;s the lesson I&#039;ve taken from the Bush Administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa! What happened to independence of the departments of government from the white house?  After a fashion, aren&#8217;t these judges impartial finders of truth, and wasn&#8217;t the problem with Bush that the military and other government agencies were doing what the President wanted?  Why is it any better for this judge to acquiesce to Obama&#8217;s political demand than for the EPA to issue directives based on Bush&#8217;s orders?  I&#8217;m sick and dang tired of Obama running this place like a plantation.  People like Col. Parrish have got to exercise their patriotic duty to dissent from what some political hack in the white house says to do, and do what they know in their hearts to be right.  That&#8217;s the lesson I&#8217;ve taken from the Bush Administration.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130552</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll chip in for a body hair wax for Khalid when he walks.   He can use Obamy&#039;s waxer.

That should be worth at least an Alderman&#039;s seat for the angry, but otherswise wholesome terrorist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll chip in for a body hair wax for Khalid when he walks.   He can use Obamy&#8217;s waxer.</p>
<p>That should be worth at least an Alderman&#8217;s seat for the angry, but otherswise wholesome terrorist.</p>
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		<title>By: BillK</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130544</link>
		<dc:creator>BillK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No shock here whatsoever.

From the AP:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Judge OKs Guantanamo suspension sought by Obama&lt;/b&gt;


GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE -- &lt;b&gt;A military judge has agreed to President Barack Obama&#039;s request to suspend the Guantanamo war crimes trial of Canadian Omar Khadr.&lt;/b&gt;

It is the first in a series of delays sought by Obama as his administration reviews the legal system for prosecuting alleged terrorists.

The written order came Wednesday in the Khadr case. He is accused of killing an American soldier with a grenade in Afghanistan in 2002.

&lt;b&gt;Army Col. Patrick Parrish, the judge in the case, issued a written order granting the 120-day suspension without a hearing.&lt;/b&gt;

Later, a judge is to consider suspending the case of five men charged in the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-naw-guantanamo22-2009jan22,0,4068025.story&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Messiah says it here, it comes out of a judge there.

Welcome to ObamaLand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No shock here whatsoever.</p>
<p>From the AP:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Judge OKs Guantanamo suspension sought by Obama</b></p>
<p>GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE &#8212; <b>A military judge has agreed to President Barack Obama&#8217;s request to suspend the Guantanamo war crimes trial of Canadian Omar Khadr.</b></p>
<p>It is the first in a series of delays sought by Obama as his administration reviews the legal system for prosecuting alleged terrorists.</p>
<p>The written order came Wednesday in the Khadr case. He is accused of killing an American soldier with a grenade in Afghanistan in 2002.</p>
<p><b>Army Col. Patrick Parrish, the judge in the case, issued a written order granting the 120-day suspension without a hearing.</b></p>
<p>Later, a judge is to consider suspending the case of five men charged in the Sept. 11 attacks.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-naw-guantanamo22-2009jan22,0,4068025.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....8025.story</a></p></blockquote>
<p>The Messiah says it here, it comes out of a judge there.</p>
<p>Welcome to ObamaLand.</p>
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		<title>By: The Redneck</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130537</link>
		<dc:creator>The Redneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t really afford it, but I&#039;m seriously considering buying a Ruger 10-22 just so I can convert it...  easier  to play.... err... practice...  with a full-auto firearm when the bullets are about six cents apiece.


Meanwhile, I was one of the ones saying &#039;wait and see&#039;, and I think it was more a matter of hope than belief (ironic, huh?).  I had some small hope that even a liberal would have some interest in the continued existence of our nation and our constitution--because otherwise, it&#039;s up to the Republicans in Congress to keep him from sending our country into the gutter, and you know what what means....

We are &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t really afford it, but I&#8217;m seriously considering buying a Ruger 10-22 just so I can convert it&#8230;  easier  to play&#8230;. err&#8230; practice&#8230;  with a full-auto firearm when the bullets are about six cents apiece.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I was one of the ones saying &#8216;wait and see&#8217;, and I think it was more a matter of hope than belief (ironic, huh?).  I had some small hope that even a liberal would have some interest in the continued existence of our nation and our constitution&#8211;because otherwise, it&#8217;s up to the Republicans in Congress to keep him from sending our country into the gutter, and you know what what means&#8230;.</p>
<p>We are <i>so</i> screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: sheehanjihad</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130531</link>
		<dc:creator>sheehanjihad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its ironic that  our own democrat party caused the economic meltdown in their frantic bid for total power and the terrorists failed in their attempt

.  BillK is right....they dont have to do anything now, the democrats are gladly achieving their wildest dreams for them, and to be honest, they are doing a much better job of destroying our economy than the terrorists ever could hope to.

  The main problem is, one can shoot a terrorist. We will have to endure the Quislings in Congress instead, and pay for their greed over and over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its ironic that  our own democrat party caused the economic meltdown in their frantic bid for total power and the terrorists failed in their attempt</p>
<p>.  BillK is right&#8230;.they dont have to do anything now, the democrats are gladly achieving their wildest dreams for them, and to be honest, they are doing a much better job of destroying our economy than the terrorists ever could hope to.</p>
<p>  The main problem is, one can shoot a terrorist. We will have to endure the Quislings in Congress instead, and pay for their greed over and over and over again.</p>
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		<title>By: TickTock</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130530</link>
		<dc:creator>TickTock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People will soon be outfitting themselves in Kevlar vests just to go to a mall... at least that will add a bit of stimulus to the economy. It will be the latest fashion craze in ObamaLand

Do your part: Buy a firearm today before orders are back-logged. That&#039;s where I&#039;m heading this morning.

Dear Leader will be so proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People will soon be outfitting themselves in Kevlar vests just to go to a mall&#8230; at least that will add a bit of stimulus to the economy. It will be the latest fashion craze in ObamaLand</p>
<p>Do your part: Buy a firearm today before orders are back-logged. That&#8217;s where I&#8217;m heading this morning.</p>
<p>Dear Leader will be so proud.</p>
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		<title>By: oldswimcoach</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldswimcoach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the single most important thing Bush did during his tenure was to address terrorism as an act of war rather than an act of criminality.  

I fear this action signifies the new administration will move us back to the pre-Bush fantasy that terrorist are simply criminals, not unlawful soldiers bent on attacking innocents for political motives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the single most important thing Bush did during his tenure was to address terrorism as an act of war rather than an act of criminality.  </p>
<p>I fear this action signifies the new administration will move us back to the pre-Bush fantasy that terrorist are simply criminals, not unlawful soldiers bent on attacking innocents for political motives.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBad</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130523</link>
		<dc:creator>BigBad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely put!  Sickly comical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely put!  Sickly comical.</p>
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		<title>By: BillK</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130502</link>
		<dc:creator>BillK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9/11 was never meant to cause widespread death but rather to cause the economic destruction of the United States and the West and to see American troops removed from countries sacred to Islam.

Obama&#039;s policies will achieve that nicely, so there&#039;s little need for al Qaeda to act at all at this point; all they need to do is sit back and watch the next eight years and laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9/11 was never meant to cause widespread death but rather to cause the economic destruction of the United States and the West and to see American troops removed from countries sacred to Islam.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s policies will achieve that nicely, so there&#8217;s little need for al Qaeda to act at all at this point; all they need to do is sit back and watch the next eight years and laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: River</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-moves-to-suspend-guantanamo-trials#comment-130494</link>
		<dc:creator>River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good. If we are right, these released terrorists will return to the hinterlands and pick up where they&#039;ve left off.  There&#039;ll be a number of Mumbai-style attacks, and the whole world will be focused on them. Somebody with a big media voice will report who the bad actors are, and then it will become obvious that this Kumbaya policy is a disaster.

We will be proven right. Sometimes the worst is best for the long haul. In retrospect, we all would have been better off if al Qaeda had succeeded with another 9/11-type assault. Because Bush did such a good job protecting us, he is despised, we&#039;ve mostly forgotten about reality, and have lapsed back into our former sleepwalking state. People have to learn the hard way if they refuse to learn the easy way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good. If we are right, these released terrorists will return to the hinterlands and pick up where they&#8217;ve left off.  There&#8217;ll be a number of Mumbai-style attacks, and the whole world will be focused on them. Somebody with a big media voice will report who the bad actors are, and then it will become obvious that this Kumbaya policy is a disaster.</p>
<p>We will be proven right. Sometimes the worst is best for the long haul. In retrospect, we all would have been better off if al Qaeda had succeeded with another 9/11-type assault. Because Bush did such a good job protecting us, he is despised, we&#8217;ve mostly forgotten about reality, and have lapsed back into our former sleepwalking state. People have to learn the hard way if they refuse to learn the easy way.</p>
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