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Obama Open To CIA Probe, Prosecution

From an elated Associated Press:

President Barack Obama, accompanied by CIA Director Leon Panetta, waves to the crowd as he arrives to deliver remarks at the Central Intelligence Agency in Langley, Va., Monday, April 20, 2009.

Obama open to prosecution, probe of interrogations

By Jennifer Loven, AP White House Correspondent

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Tuesday the United States lost "our moral bearings" with gruesome terror-suspect interrogations and he left the door open to prosecuting Bush administration officials who vouched for their legality.

At the same time, Obama said the question of whether to bring charges "is going to be more of a decision for the attorney general within the parameters of various laws and I don’t want to prejudge that." The president discussed the continuing issue of terrorism-era interrogation tactics with reporters as he finished an Oval Office meeting with visiting King Abdullah of Jordan.

Obama had said earlier that he didn’t want to see prosecutions of CIA agents and interrogators who took part in waterboarding and other harsh interrogation tactics, so long as they acted within parameters spelled out by government superiors who held that such practices were legal at the time.

But the administration’s stance on Bush administration lawyers who actually wrote the memos approving these tactics has been less clear. "There are a host of very complicated issues involved," Obama said.

The president took a question on this volatile subject for the first time since he ordered the release last week of top-secret Bush-era memos that gave the government’s first full accounting of the CIA’s use of simulated drowning and other harsh methods while questioning terror suspects…

Obama said such an investigation might be acceptable "outside of the typical hearing process" and with the participation of "independent participants who are above reproach." This, he said, could help ensure that any investigation would be a tool to learn, not to provide partisan advantage to one side or another.

"That would probably be a more sensible approach to take," Obama said. "I’m not saying that it should be done, I’m saying that if you’ve got a choice." …

We question the timing.

It sure looks like (half of) the CIA interrogation memos have been released and purposefully misreported to whip up demands for the CIA prosecutions we were previously assured would never happen.

What a shock, huh?

This article was posted by Steve on Tuesday, April 21st, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

33 Responses to “Obama Open To CIA Probe, Prosecution”

  1. catie says:

    Obama and the left won’t be happy until they take Bush & Cheney out of retirement and put them in the brig at Gitmo. Why won’t he be a man and come out and say what he really feels. If I were him I wouldn’t push this too far because someone is going to come after you Barry and your arse may be in the sling next. So far Dear Leader you have done nothing to prove to me that you’re keeping this country safe. Having KSM get some water squirted up his nose does not break my heart as it obviously does you and your ilk. But your precious punishments will always be safe so you really don’t have any skin in the game now do you? But when not if something goes wrong, you better believe I and many others will blame you and your Weds. night cocktail crowd.

  2. Consilience says:

    When this man’s “chickens come home to roost” he will blame Bush/Cheney. Given his pace, I wonder how much longer the Union can endure…

  3. Howard Roark says:

    I don’t doubt that his heart is dark enough to sic the Justice Dept. on President Bush and Vice President Cheney. Judging from the way this imposter is bent on deconstructing our country and its image, this is just par for the course.

    But like Steve, I question the timing.

    I believe that Barry is producing this much of a smokescreen to get the lousy news of the last week off the websites: the DHS memo-against-veterans, the South American Communist Love-In, the gun issue scare he kicked up, and our Tea Parties.

    A reasonable person might ask, “Gosh, is he such a child that he can’t take a little bad press from the alternative news sites/sources?” My guess is that he has such a thin skin for those of us who dare to question his authority that he is capable of the most dangerous things, like actually trying to prosecute the pervious administration which kept us safe for 8 years.

  4. pdsand says:

    I’m not sure where any of this is going, or what basis in law any of it is based on.

    “Obama had said earlier that he didn’t want to see prosecutions of CIA agents and interrogators who took part in waterboarding and other harsh interrogation tactics, so long as they acted within parameters spelled out by government superiors who held that such practices were legal at the time.”

    That has never been the law in America. Just following orders has never been an excuse. Lest we forget any of the prior liberal hyped up scandals against U.S. Soldiers in Vietnam or since then. If what they did was illegal, then they should be in jail. I only want Obama to be honest about what he thinks.

    “But the administration’s stance on Bush administration lawyers who actually wrote the memos approving these tactics has been less clear. “There are a host of very complicated issues involved,” Obama said.”

    It would appear that any prosecution along these lines would violate the attorney-client priviledge, although I’m sure that’s a whole murky puddle of water. However, it is definitely punishing a lawyer for giving legal advice. A real brainwave move. And aren’t these the people who so greatly fear “chilling effects”? I suppose that’s not a chilling effect that interests them.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      Actually….it was 1994 during the Clinton Administration that these rules were formulated!! (Hence……lawyers for Bubba)
      Ergo……Mr. Obamas’ “very complicated issues involved.”

  5. JohnMG says:

    …..”Obama said such an investigation might be acceptable “outside of the typical hearing process” and with the participation of “independent participants who are above reproach.” …..”

    Oh, nice! Just dandy! And who will select these “outside participants”, and who will determine they are “above reproach”? Obama? Eric Holder? Leon Panetta?

    I know. Rahm Imanuel! Yeah–that’s the ticket!

    • Howard Roark says:

      In Barry’s mind, those who are “above reproach” start with Rev. Wright.

      This man-boy isn’t capable of picking someone who is “above reproach”. Look at all of the tax cheats he picked to surround himself with, who, he told us all, were above reproach.

      Any punk who can worship and listen at the feet of communists doesn’t have the heart to love America and what it stands for. You can see the hate in his own family’s eyes.

    • oldswimcoach says:

      I think we need a military tribunal!

  6. pdsand says:

    I wonder, every program that Obama has proposed in his presidency has been for a special panel of people with unique new authorities to do things in an unconventional manner. I wonder if there is one single function of our government from the olden days that Obama feels is competent to do its job. A single court, or agency or regulator? I guess without the Obama blessing of specialness, nothing was working the way it should have been.

    I think we need a new panel of a few independent participants who are above reproach to handle the Presidency for the remainder of Obama’s term. I nominate JohnMG, the colonel, liberals demise…

    • JohnMG says:

      Well, thanks, pdsand. But first we have to have the first part of Tom Clancy’s book “Executive Orders” play out–the Washington
      D C part, anyway. And I think the Colonel and LD outrank me. Secretary of State might be nice though. ;-}

    • Colonel1961 says:

      Thanks for the nod, but I must admit to having an excess of skeletons that would prevent me from being elected (or appointed) dog catcher!

    • Liberals Demise says:

      WOW….a 3 fer!
      I am honored and a bit taken aback but…….OK!
      We will run on a “Common Sense” front and I will sic Colonel Dogcatcher on the bastards that have run our nations economy into the ground for personal gain. Lookout Joe…….there is a new sheriff and he don’t like you or your kind!! (Damn the skeletons, Colonel)
      SOS JMG can return to all the countries BlackBarry went to during his “Apology Tour ’09” and tell them all to ……………….(fill in the blank)
      Humble LD doesn’t want to be President…….but I will go to DC to oust those that refuse to go willingly!! Then we can allow the voices of the “SANE” be heard from Sea to Shining Sea!!

      LD wakes up and yawns……Man, that was some dream!!

  7. proreason says:

    The former CIA official who has come out strongly against this intimidation tactic pointed out the horror that is under the surface.

    No person involved in national security will ever again be able to trust orders from the government…..since a criminal like this Obama vermin can come along and overrule the prior guidelines and prosecute the agent.

    This one action has IRREPARABLY weakened national security. Even if The Moron backs off, just the threat is enough to do the damage.

    And the damage is already done.

  8. Consilience says:

    The thug messiah wants America weak, and doing all he can to assure our vulnerability. When we’re attacked again, he’ll impose draconian measures restricting even more Liberty…

  9. U NO HOO says:

    We survived FDR we’ll survive BHO.

    I hope for a change.

    • ptat says:

      Good point,U NO, I keep telling myself that BUT this seems so much more than FDR’s situation. I thought we were lucky to “survive” (umm, except for 9/11) the Clinton Years, which look like a walk in the park now. My wife and I, too, hope (in God) for a change! It is in His hands.

    • proreason says:

      FDR wasn’t a dangerous lunatic like this guy and his puppet masters.

      FDR was an egomaniac and an opportunist and a socialist sympathizer. But he hadn’t been slinking about for 20 years plotting to overthrow capitalism and create a totalitarian state where the “rich” were robbed to payoff deadbeats.

      FDR also was a partriot who loved his country. And he didn’t intend to get even with half the population either.

      I’m no fan of FDR, but comparing the monster and his cronies sitting in the WH today to FDR is a sacrilege.

      It’s like comparing criminals to sinners.

    • canary says:

      BHO hates America; only loves himself. He is in a class or world of his own.

  10. Media_man says:

    I suspect this is going to boomerang on Obambi & the Dems once the terrorists pull a Mumbai on us & normal people begin to ask themselves, once again, whether or not they really care about interrogation techniques.

    At some point, when gasoline is back to $5/gallon, unemployment remains stuck in double digits, & galloping inflation erodes what’s left of folks retirement savings, good Americans will give the GOP another look. One can only hope.

  11. canary says:

    It would be nice to hear Obama use the word “gruesome” to describe the actions of muslim terrorist actions. No. He saves the word to describe the U.S actions.

    Cuba gave Obama lessons on how to take political prisoners. I just told someone recently, if you hear Obama say anything that sounds okay, beware; he has the opposite planned. This is another example. Acts like he’s not going to prosecute, the U.S., then turns around and says he is. Mentions unbiased repeatedly. The .
    The U.S. attorney general is Obama’s puppet, who will gather the most biased lynchmen in our country.

  12. DGA says:

    Ahh, Miss Jennifer Loven’s work yet again, with words like “gruesome” to describe having a jug of water poured over your face. So, on that level Jennifer, how would you describe the work your islamic murderer heroes do to their victims?

  13. VMAN says:

    I wonder what the interrogation techniques will be like when they start kicking in peoples door looking for potential terrorists. You know the ones that want smaller federal government and appose abortion and don’t want their second amendment right taken away or even just wish to speak freely. Some how I think what the CIA did will pale in comparison.

  14. aprilnovember811 says:

    If I were a defense lawyer, the first thing I would do is subpoena his birth certificate, to make sure his administration is legitimate to do this.

  15. wirenut says:

    VMAN , I will hand them over , barrel first and only when the mag is empty . Interrogation techniques for free-thinkers will
    be related to the crime . Frontal lobotomy or public schooling is mandated . Assassins of the Constitution get a pizza-man flown in from your favorite city to feed you . See , so why resist?

  16. canary says:

    Obama words of enjoyment of the torture and killing of animals started at 5 years of age. And don’t forget he mentally and physically tortured a little girl name Coretta at his Hawaii school. He threw her to the ground, and caused emotional scarring by contributing to her isolation from the rest of the school,. even though she was the only classmate that welcomed and talked to him. Why? Because she was the only other dark skinned child, and he wanted to be popular with the lighter skinned kids.

    excerpt Dreams from my Father (end of 2nd chapter)
    author Barack Obama

    “Don’t you think he’s a little young?”

    Lolo shrugged and looked down at me. “The boy should know where his dinner is coming from. What do you think, Barry?” I looked at my mother, then turned back to face the man holding the chicken. Lolo nodded again, and I watched the man set the bird down, pinning it gently under one knee and pulling its neck out across a narrow gutter. For a moment the bird struggled, beating its wings hard against the ground, a few feathers dancing up with the wind. Then it grew completely still. The man pulled the blade across the bird’s neck in a single smooth motion. Blood shot out in a long, crimson ribbon. The man stood up, holding the bird far away from his body, and suddenly tossed it high into the air. It landed with a thud, then struggled to its feet, its head lolling grotesquely against its side, its legs pumping wildly in a wide, wobbly circle. I watched as the circle grew smaller, the blood trickling down to a gurgle, until finally the bird collapsed, lifeless on the grass.

    Lolo rubbed his hand across my head and told me and my mother to go wash up before dinner. The three of us ate quietly under a dim yellow bulb-chicken stew and rice, and then a dessert of red, hairy-skinned fruit so sweet at the center that only a stomachache could make me stop. Later, lying alone beneath a mosquito net canopy, I listened to the crickets chirp under the moonlight and remembered the last twitch of life that I’d witnessed a few hours before. I could barely believe my good fortune.

  17. proreason says:

    Very interesting. Rush found this sound bite from The Moron yesterday at the CIA.

    “Al-Qaeda is not constrained by a Constitution ”

    So there you have it, the Constitution isn’t the framework for our country, it’s not the compass for government, it’s not a work of genius that has enabled the creation of the greatest nation ever, it’s not the most fundamental law we have….

    It’s a constraint on Obama……..and insofar as he pays lip service to it, it’s slowing him down. Just look at what his bud Hugo can get down in HIS country since he isn’t tied down by a bunch of rules that Obama would abolish in an instant if he could.

  18. canary says:

    Once again, Obama has the world rolling on the floor; cracking up in laughter. North Vietnam, N. Korea, Afganistan, Iraq, Palestine, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Mexico drug cartel, the Mafia, and all his new friends he made this week.

  19. Odie44 says:

    Did anyone get a chance to listen to Bambi’s speech at the CIA.

    Holy C-level middle school orator. Between the “umm’s and ohh’s” – he sounded like a child, clearly not understanding or grasping the concepts, but instead took a page from the ole” “hope, change, future, American morality, blah, blah”

    It was pathetic.

    He insinuated, several times – that they didn’t need to “fear retribution or worry about their efforts”, all the while knowing the shoe was going to drop 1 day later with “ok’ing” probes, with the caveat “no CIA official will be held responsible”

    It was another pep rally cry from our darling cheerleader. Pom poms and all.

  20. MinnesotaRush says:

    “President Barack Obama said Tuesday the United States lost “our moral bearings …”

    And he’s an expert on “moral bearings” since when (???). How many campaign regulations and laws did he break? How many promises has he kept? How truthful has he been, or will be? Etc, etc, etc, ….

    “Words. Just words” …. yup!

  21. nuthingbettertodo says:

    2002 Video Flashback- Eric Holder: Terrorist Detainees Don’t Fall Under Geneva Conventions http://tinyurl.com/5btafl

    • proreason says:


      But it won’t matter.

      They will simply say that the snippets that EXPLICITLY oppose The Moron’s policy that is designed to tear down our country are quoted out of context. And since 99% of Obamabots won’t go look at the context, that will negate the issue. If some “journalist” has the temerity to follow-up, they will simply cut the fool off.

    • pdsand says:

      That must have been from around the same time that Democrats agreed that Iraq was a WMD threat, and when dems also agreed that we needed to respond to 9/11. Waayyy back then.

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