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Obama, Putin Agree To Lower (US) Nukes

From an elated Associated Press:

Obama, Medvedev agree to pursue nuclear reduction

By Ben Feller, Associated Press Writer

MOSCOW – President Barack Obama said he and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev are countering "a sense of drift" in relations between their nations with preliminary agreement Monday to reduce the world’s two largest nuclear stockpiles to as few as 1,500 warheads each.

"We must lead by example, and that’s what we are doing here today," Obama said as he and his Russian host pointed their arsenals toward the lowest levels of any U.S.-Russia arms control agreement.

"We resolve to reset U.S.-Russian relations so that we can cooperate more effectively in areas of common interest," Obama said.

The document signed by the two leaders at a Moscow summit, Obama’s first in Russia, is meant as a guide for negotiators as the nations work toward a replacement pact for the START arms control agreement that expires in December. The joint understanding completed by Obama and Medvedev, signed after about three hours of talks at the Kremlin, also commits the updated treaty to lower longer-range missiles for delivering nuclear bombs to between 500 and 1,100. The limit for warheads would be no more than 1,675 each.

Medvedev called it a "reasonable compromise."

Under current treaties, each country is allowed a maximum of 2,200 warheads and 1,600 launch vehicles.

A White House statement said the new treaty "will include effective verification measures" and Obama said definitively the new treaty would be completed by the end of the year.

"The new agreement will enhance the security of both the U.S. and Russia, as well as provide predictability and stability in strategic offensive forces," the statement said…

The White House announced that the two nations plan 20 exchanges and meetings this year. For example, Russian military cadets will come to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. The two countries also plan a joint exercise concerning responses to possible plane hijackings.

They also promised fresh cooperation on public health issues and revived a joint commission to try to account for missing service members of both countries dating back to World War II

What a laugh. What dangerous naivety. (Or is it simply knavery?)

How many times do we have to go through this charade?

Like totalitarian dictatorships everywhere (cf North Korea), the Soviet Union Russia will simply claim they have made the required reductions, when in fact they are likely increasing their numbers.

They have done this time and again. And the Reagan enunciated policy of ‘Доверяй, но проверяй’ (trust but verify) simply does not work.

It is next to impossible to verify such details. (Something we should have learned from North Korea, Iran and even Iraq.)

"We resolve to reset U.S.-Russian relations so that we can cooperate more effectively in areas of common interest," Obama said.

Like Georgia, North Korea, Iran, the price of oil, missile defense?

They also promised fresh cooperation on public health issues and revived a joint commission to try to account for missing service members of both countries dating back to World War II…

It is to laugh.

The Soviet Union Russians stand diametrically opposed to the United States on every issue. This is not an accident. It is a matter of policy.

The dictator Mr. Putin views Russia’s national interest as being diametrically opposite to ours. And no amount of honeyed words will change that.

History may not repeat itself, but stupidity sure does.

This article was posted by Steve on Monday, July 6th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

21 Responses to “Obama, Putin Agree To Lower (US) Nukes”

  1. LewWaters says:

    Great! Let’s begin disarming, just to show Iran and North Korea they have nothing to fear from us.

    In the meantime, I’m sure they will abandon their quest for nukes too, right?

    God help us, I hope we make it to 2012.

  2. tranquil.night says:

    This is all according to plan. Obama, like us, is completely aware that Ahmadman and the Norks are taking their orders from Putin. Even if Russia actually does reduce its arsenal, it’s because it would’ve been handed to the ‘isolated’ regimes to carry out their two-pronged attack on the targets of their choice (America, Israel, South Korea, and maybe/probably Japan).

    Iran EMPs, North Korea nukes, Putin/Jintao annexes Europe (since they’ll be terrified to fight) and win the Presidency of the Oppressed One World Order in 2012. Obama gets to use all his signed ‘shovel-ready’ initiatives and spenduli to rebuild America, literally. Chavez, Zelaya, and co get to pillage South America and the last conservative refugees migrate to New Zealand with Rush :o

    Just a little bit more time. Checkmate. I’m gettingdrunkandhoping4thebest.

  3. Liberals Demise says:

    It’s a “MAD” world out there!
    MAD = M utually A ssured D estruction

    What about all the other nuclear Genies out there? We are not in a all inclusive club anymore. What happens when Iran goes “hot” and Israel goes ballistic?
    Should I break out my “World is comin’ to a end” lawn chair set?

    • neocon mom says:

      I say yes, it’s time to hose those baked beans off of the nylon webbing, and while you’re at it, dust off the lawn jarts.

  4. proreason says:

    Well alrighty then.

    One thing we know for sure…..we can trust the Russians to keep their word about nukes. They wouldn’t dare risk a stern lecture from Obamy.

    I feel so much safer today.

    Those years of playing Rsk in his dorm room with his moderate Pakistani roommates are certainly paying off for The Moron.

    • jobeth says:

      “One thing we know for sure…..we can trust the Russians to keep their word about nukes”
      (I know you are being sarc here, pro ;-) )

      Uhhh…right. Sure we can, ’cause they’ve always been so truthful in the past! Arggg!

      Does Obalmy think we are complete idiots?….I know, I know, at least half this country will believe the sky is polka dot if Obamy says so.

      Lets see now.
      Obalmy and lefties have killed the housing market.
      They have killed the banking system.
      They have ruined the car industry
      They are spending us into the ground to where the average person will stay broke along with his kids and grandkids. And now there is talk about another “stimulus”
      Our entire economy is in the tank and is still falling…fast.
      Unemployment is in the double digits
      He has played palsy walsy with every tin horned third world dictator he can find.

      (Just to name a few issues he is responsible for…I know you all can add to this list)

      And now he is snuggling up to one of the two worst major world powers there are. (China being the other one)

      Umm I see a trend here…(Ya think?) Once he has totally disarmed an already very weakened America…Russia has only to walk in and take possession of the White House. Of course Obalmy, like Castro, will actually live there, but with the backing of wonderful Russia, we can all relax and enjoy the land of “sharing the wealth”. And I’ve always wanted to learn Russian anyway.

      Of course we can depend on trusting Russia. Pay no attention that they have never honored their agreements in the past. That was then, this is now. (choke)

      Rush’s fill in today (sorry I can’t remember who he is) said he watched Obalmy as he was presented in the elaborate hall there. Rush’s fill in said he never saw Obalmy look more comfortable in his surroundings. No fidgeting, totally relaxed. He looked at home among his “peers”.

      I only caught a few seconds of him there…and I will have to say he did look comfortable. TOO comfortable.

      We HAVE to get this idiot out of office at our first opportunity. And we HAVE to take away his ability to shut the GOP out come 2010.

      Yielding to my betters here…Isn’t what he has done so far…close to treason? Is there anything he has done so far that he can at least be impeached for? Or is it necessary to wait until we have the majority in congress.? .

      He has done more against America than any president I know of in history.

  5. catie says:

    I thought I was going to pull my hair out during this disaster. I kept watching Medevdev and the way he was peering over at our Dear Leader. I almost thought he was trying really hard not to bust out laughing. But those KGB boys are trained well. Bush made a mistake by thinking Putin had a soul. Putin has a soul alright, the soul of Lucifer.

  6. GetBackJack says:

    Back In The USSR

    Oh, flew in from Miami Beach B.O.A.C.
    Didn’t get to bed last night
    On the way the paper bag was on my knee
    Man I had a dreadful flight
    I’m back in the U.S.S.R.
    You don’t know how lucky you are boy
    Back in the U.S.S.R. (Yeah)

    Been away so long I hardly knew the place
    Gee it’s good to be back home
    Leave it till tomorrow to unpack my case
    Honey disconnect the phone
    I’m back in the U.S.S.R.
    You don’t know how lucky you are boy
    Back in the U.S.
    Back in the U.S.
    Back in the U.S.S.R.

    Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
    They leave the West behind
    And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
    That Georgia’s always on my mind

    Aw come on!
    Ho yeah!
    Ho yeah!
    Ho ho yeah!
    Yeah yeah!

    Yeah I’m back in the U.S.S.R.
    You don’t know how lucky you are boys
    Back in the U.S.S.R.

    Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
    They leave the West behind
    And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
    That Georgia’s always on my mind

    Oh, show me around your snow-peaked mountains way down south
    Take me to your daddy’s farm
    Let me hear your balalaika’s ringing out
    Come and keep your comrade warm
    I’m back in the U.S.S.R.
    Hey you don’t know how lucky you are boys
    Back in the U.S.S.R.

    Oh let me tell you, honey
    Hey, I’m back!
    I’m back in the U.S.S.R.
    Yes, I’m free!
    Yeah, back in the U.S.S.R.

    Ha ha

    So, let’s see … at the end of Times, Russia is a key player in forming the great army that attempts to annihilate Israel and seal the city of Jerusalem and the Temple for the AntiChrist. Hard to see how we’re going to prevent any of that if we disarm and Russia goes right on building and distributing nukes.

    Maybe Obama is the False Prophet who comes ahead of the AntiChrist.

  7. bill says:

    LOL … The naivety wants to make your laugher cry.

    How stupid is Colonel Obama, pretty damn stupid it would seem.

    And what about China?

  8. Chinnubie says:

    Obomba has this annoying attitude that he can just TALK to them and this will fix everything. How on earth do these retard liberals sleep at night with this type of diplomacy? Well I guess, they want to role around in misery thinking that this would be a great way to live, not knowing that waiting in line for toilet paper isn’t a social gathering.

  9. JoseyJ says:

    Well, at least CBS carried this story – not sure about the other 2.
    But cable channels are basically ignoring the story – and MANY others – instead, preferring to fill TV time by continuing their PREDICTIONS about Sarah and Michael.

    Most pundits and politicos believe successful presidential candidates have to be owned by Wall Street to get elected.
    Obama gladly sold his soul. Sarah won’t.

  10. BelchSpeak says:

    I didn’t think the President could make a treaty without consent of 2/3rd of the Senate.

    • BigOil says:

      Obama is simply bypassing the “negative rights” that pesky Constitution imposes on his dictatorial power.

  11. DANEgerus says:

    American tax-payers have paid most of the bills to clean up Russia’s chemical and biological weapons programs. Programs that were kicked into high gear AFTER the Russians signed the treaty banning such weapons with Jimmy Carter in 1980. Because, of course, the Russians saw such a treaty as an opportunity to be exploited to their advantage.

  12. Confucius says:

    “History may not repeat itself, but stupidity sure does.”

    I believe that history does repeat itself. In fact, I believe it repeats with dependable regularity that stupid voters can be depended on to elect stupid presidents every 30 years or so.

    • Dangerous says:

      I feel a need to rephrase that a bit.

      “History does not repeat itself – stupid men repeat history.”

      But, Confucius, while a great many people displayed a great deal less than what I’d call intelligence in putting a pleasing baritone in the White House, I wouldn’t call Obama stupid.

      A whiner, certainly. Immature, most definitely. A brazen thug who hobnobs with the worst leaders humanity has to offer, absolutely. But not stupid.

      You see, his track record as Teleprompter in Chief can only be explained by one of two things – maliciousness or incompetence. If he was merely stupid, the laws of statistics say that at least some of his actions should be to the benefit of the people he was elected to represent.

      I think the past few months have shown we should not underestimate this man in his lust for power, his need for control or his avoidance of responsibility.

      Others here could likely say it better, but that’s my $0.02.

    • Confucius says:

      Dangerous,

      I do not use the word “stupid” to describe mental defect. I use it to describe incompetence.

      In my previous comment, I use it pointedly to insult the useless boobs who voted for Obama and that raging incompetent of an affirmative action hire, Mr. Obama himself.

      Mr. Obama has poorly handled the economy, Gitmo, North Korea, Honduras, China and Russia. He should have known his choices were poor because history has told us so. And to repeat them is sheer incompetence–i.e. stupid.

      Or as you said, “stupid men repeat history.”

      Whiner, check. Immature, check. Brazen thug, check. Malicious, check. Incompetent, double check. These defects do not exclude one another. Indeed, they often all afflict the same person. (Right now, I’m thinking of Alec Baldwin and Jeanine Garofolo.)

      I do not underestimate Mr. Obama. He is after power, and armed with those particularly wicked defects, he is dangerous. Very dangerous.

      The Emperor may have no clothes, but he’s still Emperor.

  13. Consilience says:

    “They have done this time and again. And the Reagan enunciated policy of ‘Доверяй, но проверяй’ (trust but verify) simply does not work.

    “It is next to impossible to verify such details. (Something we should have learned from North Korea, Iran and even Iraq.)”

    START and INF did work—but with very strict rules and processes (I was an arms control inspector under both treaties for five years). The Soviets/Russians didn’t cheat, because there was no room in the agreement to cheat. However, anything with Bill Ayers/Rev Wright’s man’s finger prints won’t cut the mustard. This Chicago thug thinks he can talk his way to arms reductions in a world where everyone else is struggling for parity—in a word: stupid. But, he was elected. IF the Republic survives his destructive economic policies, we may be undone by his utterly stupid foreign policies. The man is a train-wreck…

    • Steve says:

      “START and INF did work—but with very strict rules and processes (I was an arms control inspector under both treaties for five years). The Soviets/Russians didn’t cheat, because there was no room in the agreement to cheat.”

      Perhaps not. But I highly doubt it.

      However, there is no doubting that the Soviets cheated in both SALT and the ABM treaties.

      Reagan withdrew the US from SALT in 1986, because of Soviet cheating.

      And the Russians themselves eventually admitted that Krasnoyarsk violated the ABM treaty.

  14. Reality Bytes says:

    This guy Obama is the runt of our litter learning how to hunt. “How Cute” squeals the media. “Look at him go!”


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