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Obama Says: Don’t Politicize Guantanamo

From his stenographers at the Associated Press:

Obama says US prisons tough enough for detainees

By Steven R. Hurst, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama vigorously defended his plans to close the Guantanamo prison camp on Thursday and promised to work with Congress to develop a system for imprisoning detainees who can’t be tried and can’t be turned loose.

Obama conceded that some would end up in U.S. prisons and insisted those facilities were tough enough to house even the most dangerous inmates…

"We will be ill-served by the fearmongering that emerges whenever we discuss this issue," he declared.

"There are no neat or easy answers here," Obama said in a speech in which he pledged anew to "clean up the mess at Guantanamo." Speaking at the National Archives, Obama said he wouldn’t do anything to endanger the American people…

Obama said opening and continuing the military prison "set back the moral authority that is America’s strongest currency in the world."

Obama spoke in front of a copy of the Constitution, to members of the Judge Advocate General’s Corps, diplomatic, policy and development officials and representatives of civil liberties groups.

"I can tell you that the wrong answer is to pretend like this problem will go away if we maintain an unsustainable status quo," Obama said. "As president, I refuse to allow this problem to fester. Our security interests won’t permit it. Our courts won’t allow it. And neither should our conscience."

Obama disclosed that administration lawyers had approved 50 detainees at Guantanamo for transfer to other countries.

Even so, it was not clear how many countries were prepared to take them…

[Obama] stopped short of offering a clear answer on the key question of what to do with detainees who won’t be tried for war crimes but are likely to be held indefinitely.

He described this group as those "who cannot be prosecuted yet who pose a clear danger to the American people."

"I want to be honest: this is the toughest issue we will face," Obama said.

He said that the his administration would "exhaust every avenue that we have" to prosecute detainees but there would still be some left "who cannot be prosecuted for past crimes" yet remain a threat.

Among these, he said, are prisoners who have expressed allegiance to Osama bin Laden "or otherwise made it clear they want to kill Americans."

"So going forward, my administration will work with Congress to develop an appropriate legal regime" to handle such detainees "so that our efforts are consistent with our values and our Constitution."

Obama criticized what he said was an effort to politicize the issue.

"I know that the politics in Congress will be difficult. These issues are fodder for 30-second commercials and direct mail pieces that are designed to frighten. I get it. But if we continue to make decisions from within a climate of fear, we will make more mistakes," he said

Mr. Obama has already signed off on continuing military tribunals.

So what exactly is the problem with keeping these people in Guantanamo?

Mr. Obama constantly harps on the stain that Gitmo is on America’s escutcheon:

Obama said opening and continuing the military prison "set back the moral authority that is America’s strongest currency in the world." …

"I can tell you that the wrong answer is to pretend like this problem will go away if we maintain an unsustainable status quo," Obama said. "As president, I refuse to allow this problem to fester. Our security interests won’t permit it. Our courts won’t allow it. And neither should our conscience."

But what exactly is it? Besides doubletalk?

In truth it is a amazingly fair system, given the circumstances.

Obama criticized what he said was an effort to politicize the issue.

So sayeth the man who ran against Guantanamo throughout his campaign.

He is utterly shameless.

By the way, have you ever noticed how Mr. Obama always claims to be for open discussions of the issues?

And yet he always forecloses any opposition to his views with tactics like this?

This article was posted by Steve on Thursday, May 21st, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

33 Responses to “Obama Says: Don’t Politicize Guantanamo”

  1. proreason says:

    “Obama spoke in front of a copy of the Constitution”

    The shameless gall of this swamp creature is breathtaking.

    • catie says:

      I was thinking the same thing. And when he starts yapping about his time “teaching the Constitution”, I thought I would puke.

  2. Liberals Demise says:

    What a Un-American waste of human spunk this toothpick is!!
    “Obama criticized what he said was an effort to politicize the issue.”

    PA——-LEEZE!!! You have done nothing BUT politicize Gitmo……you mutt!
    I need a stiff drink NOW!!!

    • 1sttofight says:

      I have found that a couple of stiff drinks BEFORE reading the days news helps a lot lately.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      I swear 1st, my under shorts knot up every single time this “IGNORANUS” opens his anal port and spews his asinine commie dribble.
      Before his reign is through my liver will be the size of a raisin ……… make that a (olive drab) green olive.

      (BTW ….. Thank You for your service to our still Great Nation, Marine!!)

    • 1sttofight says:

      I know exactly what you mean LD and I am so proud that Cheney has stepped up to the plate attempting to hold the The Won’s feet to the fire. God, I wish he were the POTUS now.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      Hell ….at least Jimma Carter loved us and America!

    • JohnMG says:

      Jimmah was as bad in his time as this asshole is now. Had Carter been able and been enabled to do what Obama has been allowed, we would have been where we are now in 1976. Carter is an unabashed anti-Semite which is only one step removed from this islamist scum we’re forced to deal with now. The best we can hope for is one term for the moron and then someone to sweep the streets clean of the deletria he leaves behind. But don’t be disillusioned–what Reagan faced will be a cake walk compared to what the successor to “The Won” will be tasked with. We may not see a recovery in our lifetimes, if a recovery is, indeed, possible at all. Obama’s is a presidency that should never have been. Now it remains to play the hand we’ve been dealt.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      33 years and more than a few dead brain cells here, John. I remember he was a A-hole and not that much more of a leader (failed Tehran rescue) and God yes he sold us out……..A flood of memories just shot through me!
      He was as bad as “Billy Beer!!”

  3. GL0120 says:

    What a complete, utter moron TCO is!
    Sure, American prisons are tough enough but just for laughs, consider this – should a prisoner escape Guantanamo, where would they go? There’s nothing but the sea and Cuba.
    Should one escape a prison in this country, they’d be able to wreak havoc on American citizens.
    If TCO has one brain cell in that skull of his, I’d be amazed.

  4. EvaTheFrisbeeDog says:

    Prisons are recruiting grounds for jihadist. Remember Muhammad and Malvo (’02 DC snipers) were Muslim converts. I’d be curious the percentage of all Muslim converts that come out of US prisons. I bet it’s the majority. The home-grown radical Islamists will hold these thugs in high esteem — they’ll be on Nation of Islam recruiting posters. After all, who has more street cred than someone who’s offed thousands of whitees?

    • Liberals Demise says:

      BINGO———–WE HAVE A WINNER HERE!!

    • Liberals Make Great Speedbumps says:

      Putting these dirtbags in American prisons will only transform our prisons into terrorist training camps. No longer will a trip to Pakistan or Afghanistan be necessary, just some time in the clink. Drug cartels are run quite well from inside prisons in this country. A sleeper cell will be even easier to run successfully after training jihadists familiar with American society and customs who will definitely be released back into society eventually after their time is served. This is insanity!

  5. Petronius says:

    Grrrrr. That this arrogant ignoramus should lecture the military JAG Corps about law and morality––knowing that they cannot respond. And “clean up the mess at GITMO”––when there is no mess at GITMO.

    Prisons are for punishment and (in the Liberal dream-world) rehabilitation of ordinary American convicts. Detention of enemy combatants in wartime is not about punishment or rehabilitation. It is about national security and military necessity––two concepts, I must admit, that are entirely unknown to The Bama and the Bolshevik thugs in his camp. True, many of the GITMO detainees have committed war crimes. But the fact that they will be tried for war crimes (and thus be in line for judicial sentencing and punishment) does not obviate the need to hold enemy combatants for the duration.

    GITMO detainees are hardened, trained killers who are extremely dangerous. They are the worst of the worst. At every opportunity, they have launched vicious coordinated attacks on military guards and medical personnel at GITMO. They have used their time at GITMO to cross-train in terrorist tactics, bomb-making, and weapons. GITMO military personnel are highly trained to deal with these attacks and situations, but civilian prison guards are not. By injecting these terrorists into the American prison population, they will be given the opportunity to wreck havoc within the prisons, and to develop and widen terrorist networks. They will gain contact with people in the outside world who have the capability to carry out violence against family members of prison personnel, and against other Americans and targets in the USA. They will be given opportunity to recruit and train American convicts into terrorism. And military authorities will lose the opportunity to observe and continue interrogation of the terrorists for militarily useful information.

    • caligirl9 says:

      And once they’ve “served their time” they will given green cards and a path to U.S. citizenship because by that time, they will be “victims” of their home nations’ politicals in power and ask for refugee status. Then they will bring their baby Talibans to the ‘States. Nice.

      Another brilliant idea by TOTUS.

      P.S. California prisons are chock full of illegals—there is no room for TCO’s terrorist borders.

    • patricko says:

      Did you notice that when he spoke about the “mess” at Gitmo, his spin was that all the problems he now faces are the result of Bush decisions. But what’s really going on is that he now has to face the same problems Bush did, like how to keep these guys out of the US judicial system and out of circulation at the same time. Bush did that with Gitmo, but Obama has to keep his campaign promises and can’t keep it open. His problems are exactly the same ones Bush faced and have nothing to do with Bush’s actions. His dilemna is that he took the best option (Gitmo) off the table.

    • proreason says:

      “how to keep these guys out of the US judicial system and out of circulation at the same time.”

      I doubt The Creature cares about that part, including any damage they could wreck. It’s more likely he would view chaos in the judicial system and national security as a good thing.

      The reason he has backed off on his looniest ideas is that he hasn’t yet siezed 100% power and is still dependant on the support of the people.

      Unless and until he manages to gain power over the military, we won’t see the full extent of his mania.

    • caligirl9 says:

      And Bush inherited problems from Clinton and Company, and so on, and so on. Well, except for George Washington, who inherited problems from the British, who inherited problems from the Romans, or whomever was their boss before that. My knowledge of history escapes me at the moment …

  6. Snardius says:

    “”I want to be honest:…”

    Why start now…?

  7. MinnesotaRush says:

    “Among these, he said, are prisoners who have expressed allegiance to Osama bin Laden “or otherwise made it clear they want to kill Americans.”

    And the rest are just waiting to join the Boy Scouts?!?!? DOH!!!

    “Obama said opening and continuing the military prison “set back the moral authority that is America’s strongest currency in the world.” …

    As if this narcisistic fool could even recognize “moral” …

  8. pdsand says:

    “By the way, have you ever noticed how Mr. Obama always claims to be for open discussions of the issues?

    And yet he always forecloses any opposition to his views with tactics like this?”

    It’s what Mr. Limbaugh talks about all the time, the Democrats want it like the old days in the 70s, where all political discussion was among democrats, and the republicans were just a bunch of flies buzzing in the background.

    • philipspace says:

      He’s open to discussion as long as his side can decide on the terms of debate.

      That, and redefine your words for you mid-stride.

      And morality, they like to mess with that one, too, without ever really defining it.

  9. Right of the People says:

    I would be in favor of moving them all to Fort Richardson in Alaska if we have to keep them on US soil. I bet they’d all love that.

    • Reality Bytes says:

      How about 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue? It’s got lot’s of room. The best security in the world & the tenants won’t mind.

  10. proreason says:

    Hey Kids!! I’ve got a really great idea.

    You know, we’ve had a really swell time running the country and all. Hey, I know I’VE had a blast wrecking the auto industry and giving dad fits about his credit cards and taxes and lots of other neat stuff too.

    But, you know, it’s really getting to be a DRAG having to pay attention to these goofy prisoners, and all this legal razzmajazz with prisons, and torture and that downer stuff. Myself, I had a LOT more fun last year spending afternnoons at the kos malt shop and poking fun at the old farts and the frumpy old ladies. Now THAT was fun.

    What if, you know, we like gave the country BACK to the adults. We could go back to having fun at koz and at the end of a day, you know, we could like, get high instead of talking to gasbags on the telephone.

    Whadayasay kids? Are you up for that!!!!

    • Petronius says:

      LOL. Hey, hey, hey. What a hoot. Mercy. This is all too true, Pro. Reminds me of that bit from Shakespeare, “As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport.” And so Nerobama stands there in the National Archives, the bearer and privileged interpreter of our Constitution and morality, laughing at all of us, rubbing his middle finger up and down the side of his face, nose in the air, wearing his shopworn sneer as his answer to the universe, dealing out destruction. “I won.” I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim. (“Endure with patience and toughness; someday this pain will be useful to you.” Ovid)

  11. 12 Gauge Rage says:

    The politicizing of Gitmo was being done by the left long before Obama was even on the radar. He just happened to conveniently come along with his smooth talking, snake oil selling charm to further the left’s grip of power. To take these hardened killers and place them into U.S. prisons would only swell the ranks of the incarcerated who already have an intense hatred for the country and system that put them behind bars.

    • proreason says:

      “intense hatred for the …. system that put them behind bars”

      The system that put them behind bars is called “crime”. It includes murder, assault, rape, and theft.

      Their misfortune lies in the fact that they are not members of Congress, in which case they would be living like emporers instead of behind bars.

  12. David says:

    So putting people in prison in Gitmo recruits terrorists but putting them in prison in San Quentin won’t? If the issue was treatment, that has already been settled. There is no justification except to further radicalize the Muslim prison population (if that is even possible).

  13. jrmcdonald says:

    My Mother worked at a hospitial in the 70’s, and would have dinner parties with our neighbours and several of the Doctors and Nurses. One of the local louts once started to carve up a turkey, and asked the Chief of Surgery if he could get a job as a Doctor? The Surgeon said “Sure, just put that bird back together.”

    I think this is the same situation with Obama. It’s a lot harder than it looked from Chicago.

  14. 12 Gauge Rage says:

    The only reason that Obama wants to put these animals into U.S. prisons is because he knows no other country will take them. He has no other place to keep them. If Obama had half a brain he’d ship them all out to that desert tent prison in Arizona. We’ve coddled these thugs for too long.

  15. Confucius says:

    Whenever speaking of morals or moral authority, Mr. Obama should have to state which moral he’s referring to.

    • JohnMG says:

      Remember the ‘Unknown Comic’? The guy with the paper sack over his head? Obama could learn a lot from that guy. Whenever making such proclamations, Obama could always claim it was somebody else inside the bag saying those things, and not him.


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