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Obama Assures: KSM Will Be “Convicted”

From a seemingly oblivious Associated Press:

Obama: Professed 9/11 mastermind will be convicted

By Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer

November 18, 2009

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama predicted that professed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be convicted, as Attorney General Eric Holder defended putting him through the U.S. civilian legal system.

In one of a series of TV interviews during his trip to Asia, Obama said those offended by the legal privileges given to Mohammed by virtue of getting a civilian trial rather than a military tribunal won’t find it "offensive at all when he’s convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him."

Obama quickly added that he did not mean to suggest he was prejudging the outcome of Mohammed’s trial. "I’m not going to be in that courtroom," he said. "That’s the job of the prosecutors, the judge and the jury."

In interviews broadcast on NBC and CNN Wednesday, the president also said that experienced prosecutors in the case who specialize in terrorism have offered assurances that "we’ll convict this person with the evidence they’ve got, going through our system."

Given that Mr. Obama is a lawyer, and that he taught law, and that he claims to be a Constitutional scholar – for him to make such statements seems like he is intentionally trying to wreck the government’s case even before it begins.

Sure, Mr. Obama made a show of walking back his first remark. But any competent lawyer would argue that the damage has already been done.

Just imagine the uproar if a Republican had said anything like this about someone on trial.

Wait a minute. We don’t have to imagine.

Back in 1970 then President Nixon said a very similar thing about another mass murderer, Charles Manson. And he also issued a hasty “clarification.” But that still didn’t prevent the possibility of a mistrial.

From the archives of Time magazine:


Justice: A Bad Week for the Good Guys

Monday August 17, 1970

… It was in Denver’s Federal Building that President Nixon committed the startling gaffe of prejudging the case of Charles Manson. While complaining that the press had made Manson a glamorous hero, Nixon said: "Here was a man who was guilty, directly or indirectly, of eight murders without reason." For a lawyer who occasionally delivers homilies on legal propriety, this was a serious breach.

Attorney General John Mitchell, who was standing at Nixon’s side, instantly recognized Nixon’s error. "This has got to be clarified," he told Presidential Aide John Ehrlichman immediately afterward. Unhappily, what ensued was a series of errors compounded by instant communications. Startled reporters dashed to the pressroom, and within minutes, the bulletins were moving across the land. The statement was filmed and broadcast later on network television, with a clarification appended.

But the damage was already done. It was not until half an hour after Nixon spoke that Press Secretary Ron Ziegler reappeared before the newsmen. After some minutes of verbal fencing, Ziegler agreed that Nixon’s words about Manson should be retracted. When Ziegler told Nixon what had happened, the President was surprised: "I said ‘charged,’ " he replied. During the 3½-hour flight back to Washington, Mitchell persuaded Nixon to put out a statement backing Ziegler up. It read in part: "The last thing I would do is prejudice the legal rights of any person in any circumstances. I do not know and did not intend to speculate as to whether or not the Tate defendants are guilty, in fact, or not."

In Los Angeles, the effect of Nixon’s remarks on the Manson trial was instant and dramatic. While the Los Angeles Times came out the same afternoon with a four-inch headline reading MANSON GUILTY, NIXON DECLARES, Judge Charles Older went to great lengths to ensure that the jury, which has been sequestered since the trial began, would not learn of Nixon’s remarks. The windows of the jury bus were whited over with Bon Ami so that no juror could glimpse the headline on street newsstands. If the jury discovered Nixon’s verdict, the defense might have grounds for a mistrial. His efforts were to no avail. Next day Manson himself displayed a copy of the Times to the jury for some ten seconds before a bailiff grabbed the newspaper from his hands. Judge Older called a recess, then questioned the jurors one by one to satisfy himself that their judgment would not be affected. An alternate juror convulsed the courtroom when he announced his disclaimer: "I didn’t vote for Nixon in the first place." The judge denied a motion for a mistrial, and the defense lawyers proceeded with cross-examination of the state’s star witness, Linda Kasabian, a former member of the Manson "family." …

But that was then (and the hated Nixon) and this is now (and the beloved Obama).

This article was posted by Steve on Wednesday, November 18th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

19 Responses to “Obama Assures: KSM Will Be “Convicted””

  1. rocketman says:

    “offensive at all when he’s convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him.” …Barack

    Let’s not jump to conclustions!

  2. GL0120 says:

    Despite TCO’s prediction, KSM will never be convicted.
    This is nothing but a show trial; now that he’s being tried in a civil court he’ll recant his confession since it was done under duress and that he was not Mirandized.
    It’s public knowledge that he was waterboarded which TCO and company have declared to be torture.
    The case will be thrown out, TCO will say that Holder did his best and if only Bush had treated this as the criminal matter that it was, KSM would be in jail today.
    It’s a win – win for TCO; he scores points from his ultra left supporters and another Muslim terrorist gets away.

  3. proreason says:

    This is one of the rare instance when Obamy is telling the truth when he says that KSM will be convicted.

    How so, you ask?

    Well silly, because Obamy is our fuhrer. The justice system is his toy. If he says the man will be convicted, he will be.

    Just as if Stalin said it.

  4. canary says:

    We’ll have to wait ten years and 2 billion dollars. There’s that jury of his peers thingy.

  5. wardmama4 says:

    Does this whole thing begin to smell of a set-up to insure that these terrorists are set free (never forget – with them coming here – there is the double jeopardy ‘right’ having been bestowed upon them) – terrorists who are not even nor have ever been American citizens.

    Can’t one of these courts in the US – prove that this empty suit is not legal to be POTUS and the whole past 11 months can be just a bad nightmare of what happens when the Thugs, Unions and Criminals join forces to enshrine one of their own as POTUS?

  6. k012957 says:

    The parallels between Obama and Nixon are growing daily.

    * Nixon also bowed to the Japanese Emperor.
    * Nixon also had an enemies list.
    * Nixon also declared a major criminal defendant guilty before the trial.

    How many more parallels are there? Will the Obama presidency end in a resignation also??

    • proreason says:

      “Will the Obama presidency end in a resignation also??”

      not a chance.

      When he is defeated at the polls by a 20% margin in 2012, he will be building bunkers in the Rose Garden on Jan 20, 2013.

  7. Liberals Demise says:

    My money is on Herr Holder stating that KSM can’t be tried because Booosh screwed things up and he must be released immediately.

  8. Chuckk says:

    Why bother to put him on trial if a conviction is a foregone conclusion?

  9. take_no_prisoners says:

    I know it would be declared “Cruel and Unusual Punishment” but this POS has already said he is guilty and wants to be executed. A fitting method would be to take him to the top of the Empire State Building, douse him with gasoline, set him on fire, and give him the choice of jumping to his death or burning to death. I know this sounds terribly vindictive but I wouldn’t feel sorry for him either way.

    • JohnMG says:

      …..”take him to the top of the Empire State Building, douse him with gasoline………”

      …….take him to the top of the Empire State Building, douse him with bacon grease……

      There. Fixed that for ya!

    • take_no_prisoners says:

      My mistake. Thanks for the correction JMG.

  10. TheChicagoWay says:

    I recall reading “Helter Skelter” by Vincent Bugliosi(sp). He was the lead prosecutor in the Manson trial. In it, Bugliosi was in effect, appalled that the president could commit such an egregius legal error and hoped that it did not destroy his case… I wonder if this very same author of “The Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder” has any words of rebuke for Obama….

    • caligirl9 says:

      You mean congratulatory words for making sure those terrorists’ “rights” aren’t violated while forgetting there was how many thousand Americans wiped out that one day? I was so disappointed in “the Bug” for writing “The Prosecution.” I don’t buy anything he writes nowadays.

      “Helter Sketer” is one of my favorite books. I cannot believe in my lifetime something like this happened—what a skeevy, unlikely leader Charles Manson was. I don’t think I’d have fallen for his line. I was 12 when the murders happened and knew the difference between a cute longhaired guy (George Harrison) and a creepy one (Manson).

      My parents raised me right, in more ways than one!

  11. MinnesotaRush says:

    “Given that Mr. Obama is a lawyer, and that he taught law, and that he claims to be a Constitutional scholar – for him to make such statements seems like he is intentionally trying to wreck the government’s case even before it begins.”

    Couldn’t agree more, Steve!!!

    • rocketman says:

      Yeah think??

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Yup, purely intentional. “Unable to get a fair trial” will be used to release him.

      It’s all so cleverly crafted. It’s…..it’s…..brillllllllliant.

    • proreason says:

      Gotta disagree with my mates on this one.

      The timing is off to release the naughty boy.

      It will come to a head before the 2012 election cycle, and the boy king knows that releasing the little curmudgeon means certain and overwhelming defeat in 2012. It won’t be close enough for Acorn or any other con game to make a difference.

      And since the Moron has already demonstrated that he places his opinion light years above our inadequate judicial system, he will get the verdict he wants. Nothing will stop that. There is simply no chance that they would take the political risk of letting 12 plumbers decide the Moron’s political fate. No chance at all. It doesn’t require a vote, you know. And the idea that a judge can’t control a jury is ludicrous. If the Moron wants a verdict, he’ll get it. Indeed, it’s probably already planned to convict poor KSM in the summer of 2012 to maximize the impact.

      Now, if his Cabal figures out how to impose martial low before 2012, all bets are off.

      Confidence level in prediction – extremely high.

  12. yadayada says:

    this is the Obey-me administration (and the whole of the liberal movement’s) ploy to put the Bush administration on trial. think of the witness request list; Bush, Rove, Cheney, et al all under oath. & I can see all the whackos salivating over the discovery list: secret wire taps, torture, secret prisons, kurans flushed, weapons of mass destruction, blood for oil, etc. they believe they will be able to use all the info. obtained to prove the republican’s culture of corruption and drive the final nail into their coffin. then in 2012 Obey-me, as hero, will ride the anti conservative tidal wave into reelection. it is an ok plan if the terrorists are stupid and fall into line as hoped. but terrorists aren’t stupid or easily manipulated. they will more likely use all their new rights to have the trials thrown out- no Miranda, coerced information and confession, torture, etc. or tie it up indefinitely- change of venue, jury selection, etc. or pick a jury full of simpletons and be acquitted (O.J. anyone?). plus they will use it spout islamist propaganda and call for more terrorist attacks on the west. after a few more shootings or bombings on U.S. soil, or the terrorists go free, the Obeyme bus (filled with his minions) will drive off a cliff in flames.
    as for Obeyme getting the conviction he wants? it’s going to be a VERY long judicial process (no doubt into 2012) and the verdict will be dependant upon what Obeyme and the dems is beieve most needed at the moment. if they can blame Bushies for his acquittal and win reelection- he will aquit. if more political hay can be made thru conviction- guilty. a death sentence is also tricky. libs are staunchly against a death sentence on a post-birth person, but it could prove how tough they can be in the arena of national security.
    this is truly a spectacle to behold.

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