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Obama Studied Islam Against Mom’s Wish

From the UK’s Times:

Barack Obama joined Muslim prayers at school, teacher says

Anne Barrowclough
November 08, 2010

AS a schoolboy in Jakarta, Barack Obama attended Muslim prayer sessions with his classmates against the wishes of his mother.

The US President’s former grade three teacher said that Mr Obama – who was known as "Barry" when he attended the Menteng One school in Jakarta – studied the Koran and went to classes on Islam, despite the objections of Ann Dunham, a Catholic…

Lest we forget, we have been assured that young Barry studied only Catholicism in his religious classes, during the two years he was at this school in Jakarta. Despite the fact that the school records show him to have been registered as a Muslim. (See photo above.)

Still, it’s news to us that Ms. Dunham ever considered herself a Catholic. Her parents were non-practicing Baptists and Methodists.

The teacher, Effendi, who taught at Menteng One for 29 years, remembers Mr Obama as a "fat, curly-haired, curious boy". The school had an international mix of pupils, including Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Muslims.

Mr Obama attended classes on Islam while the Christians attended classes on Christianity, said Effendi. Barry, he said, was alone among the pupils in that he insisted on attending both.

What is that famous quote from the Jesuists? ‘Give me a child to the age of twelve, and he is mine for life’?

"His mother did not like him learning Islam, although his father was a Muslim. Sometimes she came to the school; she was angry with the religious teacher and said ‘Why did you teach him the Koran?’" said Effendi.

If this is true, we suspect that Ms. Dunham — who by this time was a devout atheist — was simply agitated at her son learning any religion. But maybe she had more sense than we give her credit for.

"But he kept going to the classes because he was interested in Islam. He would also join the other pupils for Muslim prayers."

Questions over Mr Obama’s religion were fuelled, in part, by comments about his Muslim roots made by Hillary Clinton during the Democratic party leadership campaign

Isn’t it odd the things the staid British press remembers and our American press does not?

This article was posted by Steve on Monday, November 8th, 2010. Comments are currently closed.

10 Responses to “Obama Studied Islam Against Mom’s Wish”

  1. NoNeoCommies says:

    The left insists on repeating it’s Big Lies ad nauseum because they know many will come to believe them.
    Why shouldn’t we continue to repeat the Big Truths concerning the Snarky Marxist?

  2. wardmama4 says:

    I can’t decide between saying f*#^ them for waiting so damn long to print this stuff or say aloud – I knew that every single person BHO came across in his life could not be bought off and the truth would slip out.

    Maybe his interest in Islam – was the reason behind Ann sending him back to his grandparents – we know how she turned out – she knew what she was doing.

  3. hercjm says:

    EDIT: After some more digging, I have discovered that Effendi very rarely occurs as a surname. As a title it would be said or written with a first name like “John Effendi” which is the equivalent of “Sir John”. The person’s surname is usually omitted. While there is a chance that this teacher’s last name is in fact Effendi, I think it is likely that the reporter simply misunderstood. Which was my original point.

    It would be very odd for an Arabic speaking person to be named Effendi. From Wikipedia:

    Effendi, Effendy or Efendi (Arabic: أفندي Afandī; Persian: آفندی ) is a title of nobility meaning a lord or master.[1] It is a title of respect or courtesy, equivalent to the English Sir, which was used in Ottoman Empire (Turkey). It follows the personal name, when it is used, and is generally given to members of the learned professions and to government officials who have high ranks, such as bey or pasha. It may also indicate a definite office, as hekim efendi, chief physician to the sultan. The possessive form efendim (my master) is used by servants and in formal discourse.

    In the Ottoman era, the most common title affixed to a personal name after that of agha was efendi. Such a title would have indicated an “educated gentleman”, hence by implication a graduate of a secular state school (rüşdiye), even though at least some if not most of these efendis had once been religious students, or even religious teachers.

  4. beautyofreason says:

    “she was angry with the religious teacher and said ‘Why did you teach him the Koran?’”

    I actually love this bit. It shows that Ms.Dunham made her bed and had to lie in it. Perhaps near the end she noticed how rotten it was.

    If Dunham had a problem with her son learning the Koran then she had only herself to blame. Her life was defined by her disdain for American culture, capitalism and everything her original country represented. Instead she preferred to live in Muslim Indonesia. It was her fault for marrying a bigamist and communist from Kenya (raised a Muslim, and later an atheist). It was her fault still when she went abroad for social causes while dumping her young son on his white grandparents’ doorstep, a couple who didn’t escape the resentment of their race obsessed grandson (feel the love). It was her fault when she chose to bring her son to a Muslim country and marry a Muslim man, thus insuring that the boy’s education would include Islam.

    Obama’s autobiography claimed that his mother was a great thinker and an early feminist. Did Dunham notice the practice of FGM in Indonesia, her new and supposedly better abode?

    Like the secularists of Iran who supported the rise of Khomeini, thus insuring their swift execution and three decades of Islamic stupidity, I feel that leftists and some feminists can be so hardcore in their loathing of American culture and that they are willing to jump in bed (proverbially) with some of the most anti-freedom movements that history has come across.

    So yes, Ms.Dunham. Her son studied Islam. And some of the blame for his abysmal social beliefs can undoubtedly be placed at her feet.

    • wardmama4 says:

      Great comments beauty – I have always wondered about liberals who can’t see how their ideas, their beliefs, their actions are so anti-freedom, create poverty and suffering and are so against minorities and women. Yet they are (as you said) so blind by their hatred of America that they step right into it – and then turn around and blame someone else for the results.

      Ann truly had no one to blame but herself – but since our knowledge of her – is sifted through her son’s writings (or Ayers or whomever) – it would be hard to know exactly how she felt about certain issues – so this article is indeed nice to see simply from the perspective of someone NOT Obama.

      I simply can not imagine going through life so damn clueless. No wonder The Won is the way he is – he was surrounded by people who bit the hand that was feeding them his entire life. And hated each other the entire time doing it.

      And I thought my childhood was dysfunctional!

  5. proreason says:

    Mammy Obamy took a 6 year old into a (very) foreign country that had just surpressed a major Communist rebellion. The Obamys didn’t speak the language, had no experience with the culture, and the wee marxist hadn’t yet even attended an American school. Mammy sure was a courageous one !!

    This occured in 1967, the high point of the Black Power movement in the states, so no half black child could realistically hold high ambitions. Mammy was an Ameria hater. She never lived permanently in the states again. Obamy’s marxist Daddy had abandoned the youth virtually before the boy was old enough to recognize his face. The white half of the family was nothing special, middle class at best, so there could have been no lofty expectations for the wee half-breed.

    Yet, within 2 years, the little Marxist had declared to at least two classmates that he wanted to be President.

    How on earth did that get in his brain? Mommy? not likely from an America hater. Daddy? the budding president had never met him. Step Daddy? he was an Indonesian Muslim. Who else in Indonesia could have inspired an 8-year old child caught between multiple worlds to self-declare that he wanted to be a future President of the United States.

    Well, somebody put the thought in the impressionable young man’s brain.

    But, thinking about it, wouldn’t Indonesia have been just a super place to grab a 6-year old’s mind and shape it. They didn’t even have a robust phone system there at that time. Nobody could EVER track back what happened in those years in that strange and obscure country, with all that mishmash of cultures, the teeming population, the near absence of western technology, all those islands and all those political influences, including a very heavy Communist faction.

    You know, absolutely nothing is has been written about Lolo Soetoro, little Obamy’s Step Daddy. It’s almost as if the man has been erased from history. Probably it was a big love match between him and Mammy Obamy. Yeh, that’s probably it.

    Yet, I still can’t help but wonder what Lolo’s mission in life really was.

  6. Reality Bytes says:

    He shoulda spent more time on Geography. “I been to 57 states so far.” The audacity of this dope.

  7. Mae says:

    If everyone remembers correctly all about Obama’s sojourn in Indonesia that would be a miracle. People do have a tendency to remember the unusual, and Obama would have been exactly that–an African/Caucasian boy in a diverse Javanese/Melanesian society. But are their memories correct? Do you remember what was said to you 40+ years ago? What we have is a registration form which says his religion was Islam. That’s our evidence. He was most likely adopted by Soetoro, who I read somewhere was an alcoholic like Obama, Sr. (interesting that–aren’t Moslems supposed to be alcoholic beverage abstainers?). Obama is obviously influenced by his Muslim years.

    As for “effendi,” don’t you remember all those 1930’s/40’s films where the “native” Indian or other “exotic” characters would sidle up to the lead Caucasian and whisper “effendi” in some manner to get in his good graces. It is supposed to be a sign of respect.

    • proreason says:

      I agree with that, but if there is one thing that would stick out, it would be a classmate who declares he wants to be president. That is such an unusual statement that there is a good chance that it would be remembered by numerous people.

  8. canary says:

    Obama’s muslim school where Obama prayed is lying in order to clean Obama’s muslim image especially now that Obama defended Jihad.

    Obama’s mother scolded him, when the nuns complained he looked around during prayers, and when he made faces during muslim prayers when he attended there. Perhaps Obama’s description of his mother dragging him to many religious events, such as Easter
    Sunday, was to get a place in the Catholic school, until he could get into a muslim school. They did Rahamadmen holiday. There’s the veil photo.

    Obama wrote his mother “had always encouraged my rapid acculturation in Indonesia”

    duh. she made it her home and would verbally disclaim Americans. “They are not my people”.

    Obama claimed he belonged to an “Indonesian Boy Scout troop” where he would show his mother the goose step march, and she would tell about the Civil Rights march.

    They followed Rahmaden holiday. She had a Koran next to the bible on their shelf and encouraged him to study all religions. Perhaps her dragging him to church on Easter was so he could attend a Catholic school until he learned the Indonesia language better?

    The Koran was on the shelf with the Bible.

    Obama said his step-father practiced Islam with a side of hindu, and animist where you were what you ate. Tiger, dog, snake meat. lol. Makes ya believe in it.

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