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Obama To Cut Medicare Despite Promises

From the memory deficient Washington Post:

Trims to Medicare, Medicaid Are Proposed to Help Fund Reform

By Lori Montgomery and Scott Wilson
Sunday, June 14, 2009

President Obama yesterday outlined measures to trim spending on federal health programs for the elderly and the poor by an additional $313 billion over the next decade, bringing his total proposed savings close to the amount necessary to cover the cost of his signature health-care plan, a top adviser said.

In his weekly radio address, Obama proposed limiting the growth of Medicare fee-for-service payments, taking hospitals and other health-care providers at their word that they will reduce costs. He also proposed cutting subsidies to hospitals that treat uninsured patients on the theory that such payments will decline as more people are covered through his plan.

The president also called for reducing payments to drug companies that serve Medicare recipients. Advisers declined to release details, saying the idea is still under discussion.

"These savings underscore the fact that securing quality, affordable health care for the American people is tied directly to insisting upon fiscal responsibility," Obama said. "And these savings are rooted in the same principle that must guide our broader approach to reform: We will fix what’s broken, while building upon what works." …

The radio address capped a week during which Obama emphasized in and away from Washington the importance of health-care reform. He held a town hall forum in Green Bay, Wis., on Thursday, and he asked that this fall, congressional leaders send him legislation extending health insurance to the 47 million Americans without it. As he said in his radio message yesterday, "I know some question whether we can afford to act this year. But the unmistakable truth is that it would be irresponsible to not act." …

By requiring cuts in federal payments to health providers, the measures would go a long way toward ensuring that innovations produce savings for the federal government and restrain runaway growth in spending on Medicare and Medicaid.

Congressional budget analysts agree that the approach will save money, and the Senate Finance Committee has included two of Obama’s biggest money-saving ideas on a list of financing strategies.

"We are examining a wide range of options as we work with the president to craft bipartisan legislation that can become law this year," Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the Finance Committee chairman, said yesterday in a statement. He applauded Obama’s "commitment to our shared goals of lowering health care costs and ensuring quality, affordable care for all Americans." …

And this from today’s Washington Post:

Obama Is Pressed to Tax Health Benefits

By Lori Montgomery and Ceci Connolly
Monday, June 15, 2009

The White House is caught in a battle within its own party over how to finance a comprehensive overhaul of America’s health-care system, as key Democrats advocate a tax plan that could require President Obama to break his campaign pledge not to raise taxes on the middle class.

Sensitive to voter anxiety about a soaring federal deficit, Obama and congressional leaders have vowed to pay for a sweeping expansion of the health-care system — expected to cost more than $1 trillion over the next decade — without additional borrowing.

Much of the money is likely to come from reining in spending on federal health programs for the elderly and the poor. Obama has proposed trimming more than $600 billion from Medicare and Medicaid by 2019 — including more than $300 billion in cuts unveiled in his Saturday radio and Internet address — which could fulfill the promise to curb the growth of federal health spending…

Meanwhile, here is one of Mr. Obama’s campaign ads, ‘It Gets Worse,’ still available (for the moment) via YouTube:

It Gets Worse" Ad

It Gets Worse” highlights that first we learned John McCain wanted to tax health care benefits to pay for part of his health care plan, and now the Wall Street Journal reports that McCain would pay for the rest of his plan by making “major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid,” eight hundred and eighty two billion from Medicare alone. We simply can’t afford John McCain. On the air…

Transcript:

McCain Healthcare Plan

McCain website, flips to previous Healthcare ad "Prescription"

Wall Street Journal article and headline

[Wall Street Journal, 10/16/08]

Video profiles of seniors with text:

$882 Billion

Cut from Medicare

Requiring Cuts

Benefits Eligibility Both

[Center for American Progress Action Fund 10/08]

Taxing Health Benefits

Cutting Medicare

We Can’t Afford John McCain

Barack with senior(s)

John McCain’s health care plan … first we learned he’s going to tax health care benefits to pay for part of it.

Now the Wall Street Journal reports John McCain would pay for the rest of his health care plan "with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid."

Eight hundred and eighty-two billion from Medicare alone.

"Requiring cuts in benefits, eligibility, or both."

John McCain … Taxing Health Benefits … Cutting

Medicare. We Can’t Afford John McCain.

I’m Barack Obama and I approved this message.

Just words.

(Thanks to Henry for the heads up.)

This article was posted by Steve on Monday, June 15th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

37 Responses to “Obama To Cut Medicare Despite Promises”

  1. Liberals Demise says:

    Well now that he has just pulled the walker out from under Aunt Jane, Iman Barrack da Butcher will now go after Invitro Johnny for living to the ripe age of 3rd Trimester!!
    This boob is a true Bastard and has NO IDEA on anything!!

    • Petronius says:

      LD, that is a perfect, succinct summary of the situation. I had a long spiel in mind, but, heck, you’ve said it all in 50 words or less.

  2. My grandmother, who is 81 years old and the last survivor of my grandparents, is on Medicare. Last night, I had a dream that we sent her to live quietly with other relatives because some government representative came and said she was invited to attend a “special senior’s dinner with Ronald Reagan”, to which my mother had replied, “Ronald Reagan’s dead.” Turns out they were carting seniors off to be humanely exterminated to save money for universal health care.

    Not one to get caught up in silly dream interpretation, but one has to wonder if this carried a kernel of prophecy and truth behind it.

    After all, she doesn’t work, doesn’t pay taxes, and needs health care for issues which – for her age – are relatively mild, but still existent, so what good would she be to Obama or in the eyes of government bean counters?

    • Petronius says:

      Hmmm. Can anyone say “Soylent Green”? Or “The Children of Men”?

      Allow me to make a timely proposal for solution of the health care crisis. My solution is this: that we kill the elderly citizens of the nation. I have even developed a careful five-point strategy to go about achieving this. We will enforce this system in several ways.

      First and foremost, we will have a program––called the Lottery––which allows us to systematically kill each individual selected by the Lottery. After a citizen reaches the age of, say, 60, his name and Social Security number are automatically entered into the computerized Lottery data bank, together with everyone else who has reached that age. Each year thereafter, his name is added once more, and thus that person gets another “turn at the wheel.” This means that at age 61, the person will have double the chance of being chosen. (I like to call these people “double dippers.”) Then at age 62, if he is still alive, his name and number will be added yet again, which will triple his chances (making him a “triple dipper”), and so forth. Thus very old people will have a greater chance of being selected because their names will have been entered into the system more often. What could be fairer?

      The second feature of my proposal is the November Hunt. There will be an open season starting on Hallowe’en at sundown. Hunters will be allowed to track and kill senior citizens. Hunters must purchase a hunting license which authorizes the hunter to bag a limit of fifteen seniors per season. (For bow hunters, the bag limit is increased to twenty.) Hunting season ends on the last Wednesday in November, the night before Thanksgiving. This will give Thanksgiving a whole new meaning for senior citizens. The survivors will be truly thankful.

      The third feature in my program is called The Silence. Under The Silence, volunteers are sought for suicides. We will offer inducements under several alternative plans: (a) volunteers may opt for a bonus to be paid to their surviving family members or other beneficiaries; (b) volunteers are offered a tasteful ceremonial sendoff at a local hospice, including a painless demise with drugs, a choice of old time music, including best hits of the 50s, best hits of the 60s, and classical, their favorite old time movie, and a limited choice of flower arrangements (seasonal); or (c) volunteers may opt for an ocean cruise on Pale Horse Cruise Lines, sailing from a dozen Atlantic, Gulf, and Pacific ports; the passengers are thrown overboard after a fun-filled two weeks adventure at sea.

      There is also a package of negative inducements to encourage volunteers. For example, inmates of nursing homes will be bombarded with rap and hip-hop music. The music is piped in six days a week, with Sunday (visitors’ day) being the day of Silence. The Silence affords seniors an opportunity for reflection, to consider whether they desire serenity and eternal peace, with release from their pain, or whether they have the nerve to face another six days of rap and hip-hop. Other negative inducements are intended to heighten each senior’s awareness of the discomforts and indignities of advancing old age. Beginning at age sixty-five, all meat is removed from the diet. At age seventy, we take away their cars, bicycles, golf carts, wheelchairs, walkers, canes, etc. At age seventy-five, we take away their radios, telephones, cell phones, and alert systems; we also take away their hearing aids, because they won’t need them anymore. For the fortunate few who reach age eighty, we take away their Depends or Poise Pads.

      The fourth element of the program is called Wrinkles in Time. This is our suicide bomber program for the elderly. Big bonuses are offered for signing. The elderly volunteers will strap on the bombs, and be sent out to nursing homes, bingo halls, hairdressers’ shops, and retirement centers to detonate.

      The fifth and final element is a counterinsurgency program called Black Widow. The main features of Black Widow are a network of elderly spies and informers who penetrate antisocial groups such as Gray Panthers. Dangerous revolutionaries will be identified and taken out by special government SWAT teams.

      Obviously my program will benefit the general public by saving the health care system and by saving taxpayers billions of dollars annually. But there will be other beneficial side effects from my proposal to stimulate the economy. License fees from the November Hunt will help fund medical care for surviving seniors. Hunters may also earn a bounty for each senior bagged up to the limit of fifteen (or twenty for bow hunters). This will also serve as a jobs program for our young people. The Wrinkles in Time program will also serve as a jobs creation program, generating work for the construction industry in rebuilding nursing homes, hairdressers’ salons, bingo halls, etc. Under The Silence jobs will be created for Pale Horse Cruise Lines and at the hospices. Jobs will open on the SWAT teams that track down and eliminate the elderly rebels. All of these new jobs will be subject to Medicare payroll taxes, thereby generating much needed revenues to support the health care program.

      There are significant indirect benefits. By limiting population size, we save valuable resources, particularly oil, thereby lending a hand to solve the energy crisis. By the same token, a smaller population cuts down on pollution of the environment. In particular, with fewer people breathing, there are less carbon dioxide emissions, thereby helping to reduce global warming. Similarly, by eliminating meat from their diet, we reduce the number of cattle and methane gas emissions. We will also need fewer nursing homes, veterans’ hospitals, clinics, retirement communities, handicapped parking spaces, etc. Many of these buildings could be converted to other uses, such as government research facilities to develop strains of viruses that target the elderly. By taking all drivers aged seventy or above off the highways, we alleviate traffic congestion, automobile accidents, and energy consumption. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, by killing these elders, we lift the burden from the shoulders of the youthful, middle class taxpayers.

      The proposal appears to me to be not only the best solution to our current problem, but also the most agreeable to everyone. I think that this proposal should quiet all absurd ideas that have arisen, such as the nonsense a friend of mine spoke of when we met at luncheon some days ago. He talked of privatizing all or the major part of the medical industry. I was outraged by his laughable ideas, and hurried home to set to work on the new strategy which I have here presented to you. His ideas about private enterprise could never remedy this crisis because the crisis is much too big for anyone but the government to handle, and so I put forth this timely proposal as the best and proper solution to the problem.

    • Helena says:

      Petronius – You have an underground cult classic of a movie here.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      Hey man ….. you just made my explanation look like a booger but it’s a good read Petronius.
      “A man who is a wordsmith.”

  3. proreason says:

    Medicare already reimburses medical professionals for less than their costs. Cutting reimbursements further can only have 1 of 3 effects:

    – doctors will decrease their lifestyles for the public good
    – doctors will decrease the services they render to patients
    – more doctors will refuse to accept Medicare patients

    Which do you think will happen?

    And how many million pre-mature deaths do you think will result because of it?

    In order to provide illegal aliens with health care, millions of senior citizens who are US citizens will be killed.

    But illegal aliens will be able to vote Democratic for 40 to 50 years, and senior citizens will only be able to vote for 1 to 20 more years, and many don’t vote Democratic.

    The math works, doesn’t it?

    Millions will die so Democrats have a permanent majority.

    • caligirl9 says:

      Along your line of thinking, PR, I wondered if the number “47 million Americans” really means “47 million people living legally and illegally within the United States’ borders.”

      Geez, I have insurance and I watch every dime, every co-pay and have avoided routine doctor visits in the fear I’ll lose coverage. Yet “the uninsured” don’t have those worries—it’s all covered.

      2010 can’t come soon enough. I might live in an area that will never vote Republican, but I can sure support Repub candidates in areas where the citizens are a bit more open-minded. And by open-minded I mean who will vote for the best candidate. Yes, there are places like that here. Just gotta look!!

    • Petronius says:

      Pro: “In order to provide illegal aliens with health care, millions of senior citizens who are US citizens will be killed. * * * Millions will die so Democrats have a permanent majority.”

      Extremely important points, Pro. The coming battle on health care is critical on several levels, including the demographics. The combination of a nationalized medical industry and open borders will result in what Garrett Hardin called “the tragedy of the commons”––new waves of migrants, both legal and illegal, until the American health care system is overwhelmed and milked dry. But those waves of migrants will guarantee permanent majorities for Democrats and socialism. The final result may very well be the end of America as we know it, the end of America as a capitalist, free market economy, as a distinct historical entity, and as an organic part of Western Civilization.

  4. tranquil.night says:

    You are marked if you are old, fat, a smoker, etc. The government cannot afford you to be such a financial burden on society and so in the name of responsibility, you will be terminated.

    It took my girlfriend’s grandmother on medicaid 3 years for a local surgeon to operate on her hernia (it grew to the size of a football in the meantime) because of her weight, then with no post-op physician to check her up she was sent home the moment she was stable. She developed a blood clot a week later and 6 doctors wouldn’t see her. We ended up rushing her to the emergency room when the pain got too great, and that’s the point –

    Under the public option the patient won’t get adequate care (unless they’re, you know, ‘important’). Emergency rooms get flooded and hospitals turn to crap. Doctors get jaded, lose more and more pay.. it’s just – ugh. It’s bad. This is so bad if he gets this.

    • Oh, I would NOT be surprised at all if the “obese” were hauled off (voluntarily or otherwise) to fat camps and forced to lose weight. Which is why when I read the Society for Fat Acceptance (or some similar name) was on board with Obama’s plan, I was flabbergasted.

      They will NOT be accepted.

      And on Michelle Malkin, some liberal had the gall to say the “only good thing” about Bush’s administration was his dedication to physical fitness. To which I responded, “Yes, it’s a good thing, but it was Bush’s free choice and he didn’t attempt to force his exercise regime or diet on anyone else. Unlike Obama.”

  5. take_no_prisoners says:

    This plan will save even more money than The One is anticipating. Most doctors have to spend 45 or 50 percent of the money they currently get paid for their services on their office overhead. Cut the pay per service by 22 percent that is effectively a 50 percent pay cut for the doctor. That greeter job at Wal-Mart is starting to look pretty good. So what would happen, how do we save even more money than anticipated? Doctors will be forced to retrain for jobs that still provide them with income. Doctors who are close enough to retirement will retire early. Smart, hardworking youngsters will choose other careers. There will be nobody to provide care so the government won’t have to pay for what isn’t being done. It’s brilliant! I don’t think many people would call this an improvement in quality or availability, but it would be fair–nobody will be able to find anyone to provide medical care so we will all be untreated equally! There will still be doctors but they will be doing some other kind of work.

    • Exactly. Obama will learn the HARD WAY that no one is required or needs to be a doctor.

    • neocon mom says:

      If (as Teddy Kennedy claims and so many libs love to parrot) healthcare is a right then the government has an obligation to create doctors. Therefore you cannot make healthcare a right without having “Medical Selective Service”, whereby all citizens will be tested and if identified as qualified, will be compelled by law to enter into a medical career (ranging from Nursing Assistant all the way to M.D.) Which will of course destroy the medical profession in the U.S., the pharmaceutical and biotech industries, but this is indisputably required to make healthcare a right. We already produce more (and better) doctors than any other nation on earth, but we still have a doctor (and nurse) shortage.

      Reminds me of the Public Defender System in the U.S., in many states. You are guaranteed a lawyer if you can’t afford one (and now even enemy combatants are!), but no one said that lawyer would be decent, competent or would even have enough time to review your case or meet with you before you must appear before a judge. Yet the public pays a premium for this service. Go figure.

  6. JohnMG says:

    …..”The president also called for reducing payments to drug companies that serve Medicare recipients. Advisers declined to release details, saying the idea is still under discussion…..”

    Isn’t this so like Obama. “We must act at once to avert a disaster. I want a bill on my desk I can sign, bi-partisan, of course. We aren’t releasing any details yet.”

    Sure, dipstick, here’s a blank check. Buy anything you want, you aren’t paying for it. Sign that bill into law before anyone has a chance to read it. Work out the details later. Everything’s cool.

    …..”But the unmistakable truth is that it would be irresponsible to not act.” … Obama

    Everything this traitor does is irresponsible. The only irresponsible thing we can do is to let him continue to act!

    • Liberals Demise says:

      CRISIS, JOHN!!
      EVERYTHING UNDER THE EFFING SUN AND MOON IS A GD CRISIS!!
      GGGGGRRRRRRR………….I’M SICK UP AND FED OF THIS BLOVIATING, SMUG HUNK OF MONKEY SPUNK!!

    • JohnMG says:

      He is, however, going to raise significant sums of money to finance his universal health care by the simple expedient of taxing aspirin an additional 500 per cent, his rationale being that aspirin is white……and it works!

    • Liberals Make Great Speedbumps says:

      Too funny John!

  7. proreason says:

    Here is the wonderful thing about personal spending, from the government’s perspective.

    We are told that health care spending is 16 or 17% of total spending in the U.S. So government MUST take action right?

    Well, guess what. If the cost is somehow driven down, then the cost of something else, on a percentage basis, will go up. Let’s say it’s food. Then the government WILL HAVE to take action, right. And then that cost may go down on a percentage base. So something else will go up. Let’s say it’s transportation. Then the government WILL HAVE to take action, right.

    It’s so beautiful. Something will alway be high on a percentage base. Government will always have to take action.

    The plain truth is that so much wealth has been created by free markets that people are able to spent a proportionately higher percentage of their incomes on health care.

    IT’S NOT A PROBLEM. IT’S A BLESSING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a luxury that is only possible because of free markets.

    Obama’s plans have nothing to do with the quality of health care, nothing to do with the amount of health care, nothing to do with health insurance, nothing to do with health care at all. His plan is purely and simply to tighten his grip on power.

    And he intends to kill millions of people to do so.

    • tranquil.night says:

      I have to say as well that if you’re relatively healthy yet not very wealthy there’s STILL very reasonable insurance plans out there – and there would be even more if the Government would cut the public option completely. Medicare killed the low-income private insurance market, just like expanding it now will kill the larger market in whole. The entire point of a public option is to eliminate competition, and it does just exactly by making profits impossible for the private sector by making them compete with an entity they cannot hope to match. Profits do NOT equal higher costs, people!!!! Profits mean a healthy market, which means more people are going to be drawn to the sector, which means competition will drive innovation which means more comprehensive, less expensive healthcare! UGH!

  8. retire05 says:

    Want to know how this is all going to work out? Here is an example:

    I live in a county of over 50,000. Because our housing prices never really spiked, so were resonable, we have had an influx of retired people over the last five years. When they got here, they were shocked to learn that if Medicare/Medicaid was their only insurance, there were only two doctors who would take them. My own doctor will not take any Medicare patients unless they have a secondary insurance. So now, all these people who didn’t understand that Medicare only pays about 67% of their medical bills have to drive at least 40 miles to Austin for a doctor.

    So doctors are going to refuse to take these “universal” health care patients because the government is going to control, as they do with Medicare, how much they will pay the doctors. Doctors are already going John Galt. So a “universal” plan will create more patients, with fewer doctors to serve them. We will not have the ability to see a doctor in a few days, it will be a few weeks or most likely, a few months if it is not life threatening.

    The whole idea here is to put the insurance industry out of business and anyone who doesn’t realize that isn’t paying attention. Is there any “competition” to Social Security or Amtrak? Does the government allow competition in schools unless you pay for it out of your own pocket while you continue to be billed for the public schools?

    • Retire, great points. I certainly think that you have a good comparison to public and private schools. If you don’t want to do it the way of the government, you need to pay more, oh and we are going to tax you too. You can kind of see everything going that way with the way this presidency is going.

  9. proreason says:

    proreason’s plan to save Medicare.

    1. Calculate the total national cost of Medicare in 2009.

    2. Divide the cost by Medicare recipients in 2009. That amount is the ongoing individual Medicare Benefit.
    2a. Adjust the benefit annually to match the prior year’s Medicare Tax Reciepts.
    2b. The $54 Trillion unfunded Medicare liability dissolves. Current year payout = Prior year intake.
    2c. This also solves any imbalance between workers and recipients. If workers decline as a % of the population, than benefits will decline. Any other method can’t possibly work. It makes no sense for benefits to go up when there is not enough money to pay for them. In practice, what will happen is that people will have to work longer as lifespans increase. But how else could it be?

    3. Pay Medicare recipients their benefit (on a monthly basis) in the form of Medicare vouchers, for use by them to purchase private health insurance and/or health services.
    3a. Families can pool Medicare vouchers as they see fit to pay for special care for a family member.
    3b. Otherwise, vouchers can’t be sold or exchanged. They have no value unless used within a family.

    4. Leave the current taxation for Medicare in place and unchanged (1.45% on earned income).
    4a. Congress can reset the tax % as it sees fit. (Note: even doubling the amount would hardly be a back-breaker. The beauty of this program is that it can only pay out what was taken in. If that isn’t enough, then democracy (Congress) can periodically adjust the amount the country wants to devote to the program, and the adjustment will be so simple anybody can understand it…..i.e., 2% instead of 1.45%.)

    5. Set aside 5% of total receipts annually to take care of the genuinely needy

    6. Disband the Medicare beurocracy.

    What will happen:

    – Intense competion will arise to serve the enormous Medicare market. Prices will drop sharply.

    – Medicare recipients will quickly learn to manage and maximize their benefit.

    – The hundreds of billions of dollars currently stolen or wasted by the corrupt and inefficient Medicare beurocracy will be paid to Medicare recipients in the form of vouchers.

    – The looming and inconceivable “Medicare unfunded liability” is instantly dissolved.

    • take_no_prisoners says:

      The bottom line is we know how to provide more health care than we can afford as a society. Someone has to decide what’s worth paying for and what isn’t. If someone else is picking up the tab the natural tendency is for the patient to want everything no matter how high the cost and how little the benefit. If they had to pay for it out of their own pocket (or voucher pool), they wouldn’t demand expensive ineffective treatments. Look at the hoverround adds–get a motorized scooter at no cost to you!! They should ban those adds! In the time before insurance was used to pay for medical care the prevailing philosophy when confronted with an incurable disease was to save the farm for the widow (i.e. don’t offer expensive, ineffective long shot treatment for a miniscule chance of a cure or at best an additional few months of life–offer the best palliative care so the family doesn’t have to mortgage and eventually sell or lose the farm in foreclosure). Nobody cares what the cost is as long as someone else is picking up the tab. Medicare has also been expanded in the last 10 years or so to include coverage for people on social security disability. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why nobody points this out. A lot of these people have chronic medical conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes or high blood pressure and are in their 40’s and 50’s and will probably live for another 20 to 40 years all the while having 80% of their medical costs (100% if they’re on medicaid too) paid for by Medicare. It’s little wonder why the cost to the government is expanding at such a high rate.

  10. canary says:

    told ya, he just wants old people dead. That will take care of the Social Security problem. This is an ongoing patter of what ever he says, expect the opposite.
    That town hall meeting in MO said it all. He’ll continue to go after veterans
    with missing body parts and faces too. Obombie is the Malcome X and Middle-East lover. He has the heart of a violent man, just not able to acting it out like his fathers and their fathers. yet.

  11. canary says:

    Obama’s Plague is spreading. Iran’s present riots will happen in America. You watch the rock throwing, fires, cutting of communications, and think how passive American’s are over Obama’s unaccountability and corruption we are witnessing.

    Figured this new Volunteer towards collecge pay, didn’t mean a child can show up at a college and show a note they worked so many hours at their local nursing home.
    First our youth go through politicalpropaganda and brainwashing training.

    All the orgs names growing and expanding under the newly passed
    Edward M. Kenney Serve American Act. Latest, I found has Obama all over it.

    http://www.serve.gov/ Then you are directed to

    Corporation & National Community Service http://www.nationalservice.gov/

    Which will lead you to your Rescouce Center Tools and Training for Volunteer and Services Programs. Such training on the Constitution and amendments, your rights, Books used in training Gandi, MLK, “Lover of the Poor”, etc. etc.

    and of course training on Building Towards Justice

    which so happens to have began in 2001 as a reading and discussion series for Chicago-area AmeriCorps program participants. A collaboration between the Illinois Humanities Council and Public Allies Chicago, with funding from the Project on Civic Reflection, the series grew out of the vision and experience of a few members of the 2001-2002 class of Public Allies, who gathered informally to discuss ideas on service.
    http://nationalserviceresources.org/node/17678

    • canary says:

      So, I did the form to check into volunteering. Zip and State within 20 miles.

      Everything I got was out of state. “Only ONE place ” fell under the easy specific subject I wanted to volunteer for, and it was over 1000 miles in ME. Other’s were completely of no relevance also out several states away.
      .
      -Breaking UP Walls. (they need brochure volunter) They use Art to create diversity. Sounds scary ! No police security

      “Our joint efforts with community business and government place us in a strategic position to mentor facilitate and produce acceptable creative artist activism between gangs, taggers, and private persons. Our Unity Art Projects are produced without police surveillance or violence.”
      Other’s I was offered

      Then NAPA County Red Cross ( irrelevant I did not ask for or put medical )
      Helping Hamas
      A World without Islam
      Arabian Nights

      Center for Ethical Soulutions
      Help with ORGAN shortage, health care, pain mgnt.

      I think these programs in order to get college aid are biased. And I think it’s putting the cart in front of the donkey, to promise college in the future. I told my son when Obama was elected, not to even expect any college programs they have in place now, to be available when it’s time for him to go.
      yuk. and now I have cooties. :(

    • Liberals Demise says:

      Canary,
      According to Obamas’ plan …… you now will have to be put down because his plan does not cover the treatment of cooties.
      I am sorry!

  12. proreason says:

    Medicare spending in 2008 was $389 billion. There are now 39.5 million people 65 or over.

    So, the government spends $9,850 per person for Medicare.

    Individuals contribute as well. The Part B premium is $97 per month (more if income is above $85K p.a.). There are also decuctables on services (only $135 p.a. on Medicare Part B, but the hospital deductable is $1068, and there are coinsurances for long stays).

    Bottom line, around $1,000 per month is spent by or for the average Medicare recipient.

    It sure seems to me that amount of money could buy a lot of health insurance in a free market where people were responsible for managing the money and making trade-offs between costs and services. Seniors in good health could buy catastrophic insurance in their 70’s and put the savings toward lower deductable policies in their 80’s.

    But Medicare is designed so that recipients have few incentives to manage the services they receive.

    The government prefers to tax and control rather than to make it possible for people to manage their own lives.

    It’s more fun for the beaurocrats that way.

    • canary says:

      I’m not sure how it works, but someone told me that Doctor’s must charge less, give discounts to those on medicare and medicaid.

  13. canary says:

    Another reason Obama wants the old to die, aside resolve the SS problem, is that old people are alot smarter than the young. Old people will be less likely to vote for him. So, he’s a few years to make sure older men and women don’t get tested for prostate cancer, colon cancer, heart disease, and if a large group isn’t dead, they will be too ill to get out and vote, and his new brainwashed renegade generation who are too busy doing his federal controlled volunteer work for prisoners (recall he wants felonists to be allowed to vote) , foreignors, and minorities, who’ll go on to federal run schools. Obama worked with so many former prisoners and gangs, that he’ll hire them as federal police officers, since they own so many guns. They won’t even need uniforms. Just bandana’s. We will become a muslim nation.

  14. canary says:

    update on Obama’s Serve.com

    I put zip, state, and this time in the volunteer work I put in “registering voters” for the heck of it. I pull up teens “can pick-up trash for $500 scholarship”. Go figure? Still, not bad idea. So, when I clicked on for further information, all that comes up is the org “Help Save our Environment” and they are all far out of state. Maybe I should try reverse and put that I want to volunteer and pick up trash and see what comes up. Obama’s orgs are dsyfunctional b.s. Better to have your child work for real money, that trust Obama’s volunteer system.

    Who’s running the store? Obama’a too busy, writing speeches, fullfilling his 4 book contract he made after he was elected, too busy traveling all day to eat a tator tots and a burger, picking up after the puppy, praciting in the mirror his constant speeches, picking out what tie to work, spending more time with his family than ever (according to Michello), going to college commencements, townhall meetings (the Wisconsin trip is long) . It’s all talk, writing, traveling, eating, and tv. Never in history has a president acted like this.

  15. canary says:

    Well, know a good movie to rent. My son doesn’t know who Clint Eastwood is, but said the movie looked good. It’s called Gran Torino. I don’t think he got all the puns, but we both really liked it. Clint is “Walt” a former Korean war vet, retired from Ford auto factory in Michigan who’s old, and his wife just died, and he’s not too happy about the Vietnamese moving in next door, but then finds himself protecting them from gangs. He’s pretty funny, my son kept asking me why he talked “that way”. Rated R for language and some violence, but is more PG-13 I’d say.

  16. Chase says:

    Neocon Mom,

    I am Johnny-come-lately here, but did any one else find it revolting to hear Sen Borin’ Hatch say that he feels as a tribute to his friend Sen Ted Kennedy we need to pass health care reform? Why do we all need to suffer so Orin can laud Ted, who has been feeding off the American taxpayer, taking long paid ‘vacations’ from representing the people of the Commonwealth of Taxachussets, and who has probably never paid a dime for his health care (or anything to do with Mary Jo….)

    We don’t need no costly tributes, Orin. How’z about taking your pension and allowing some fresh air and ideas into the Senate, both of you.

    • JohnMG says:

      The only tribute to Ted Kennedy should be the comissioning of a two-seat submarine in his name. Everybody says he has a brain tumor. I think you’d need a brain first.

    • take_no_prisoners says:

      Good one John! The 2 seat sub with the driver only escape system.

    • canary says:

      *Teddy-Come-Lately*, should be put on his gravestone. He’s getting 1st class medical care, that Obama’s government plan would never give to any citizen. So, I don’t see the connection. I can not believe how much of the stimulous package is going towards the new Kennedy center. It’s enough. The same idolaters of the Kennedy family, have the same mentality as the great Bower Obama bowers.


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