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		<title>By: Petronius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-163007</link>
		<dc:creator>Petronius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This $5B government spending on medical research will certainly be needed.  

A $4B innovation tax on products of medical device manufacturers and pharmaceutical research companies is pending in the Senate.

http://cs.schwab.com/clicker/cli?requestID=sr&amp;sid=19758373&amp;emailMsgID=mcs092187967621bacmr4tslhaaaaaspf3-jg

If that bill is enacted as part of Obamacare, private research will dry up.  So it&#039;s lucky for us that Nerobama has a government spending plan to fill the void.

Memo to self:  buy new hearing aid and eyeglasses before innovation tax takes effect.  My next set may be the last ones that I can afford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This $5B government spending on medical research will certainly be needed.  </p>
<p>A $4B innovation tax on products of medical device manufacturers and pharmaceutical research companies is pending in the Senate.</p>
<p><a href="http://cs.schwab.com/clicker/cli?requestID=sr&#038;sid=19758373&#038;emailMsgID=mcs092187967621bacmr4tslhaaaaaspf3-jg" rel="nofollow">http://cs.schwab.com/clicker/c.....aaaspf3-jg</a></p>
<p>If that bill is enacted as part of Obamacare, private research will dry up.  So it&#8217;s lucky for us that Nerobama has a government spending plan to fill the void.</p>
<p>Memo to self:  buy new hearing aid and eyeglasses before innovation tax takes effect.  My next set may be the last ones that I can afford.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberals Demise</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162976</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberals Demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need a drink .... NOW!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need a drink &#8230;. NOW!!!</p>
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		<title>By: seanrobins</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162911</link>
		<dc:creator>seanrobins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;These awards will accelerate our progress toward the new medicines, treatments, and cures that will help Americans live longer, healthier lives,&quot;

Yeah, lots of new &quot;this and that&quot;, which Obamacare will decline to pay for.

Makes lots of sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;These awards will accelerate our progress toward the new medicines, treatments, and cures that will help Americans live longer, healthier lives,&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, lots of new &#8220;this and that&#8221;, which Obamacare will decline to pay for.</p>
<p>Makes lots of sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162897</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget, being the 3rd largest employer in the world doesn&#039;t count doctors, nurses, and other medical professionals!!

That&#039;s just the paper shufflers, tax enforcers and death panels!!!!!

Well let&#039;s have some fun with math.  Recent data is showing that the average government job costs the taxpayers $119K per year, according to Jacoby. (of course, that&#039;s just compensation and doesn&#039;t count management overhead, office costs, travel, and other costs of doing business.  In other words, it&#039;s a HIGHLY CONSERVATIVE estimate of the annual cost of a government worker)

The UK has about 1.3 million death panelists and paper shufflers.  So we should have about 6.5 million, assuming we are as &quot;efficient&quot; as them, since our population is more than 5 times their pop of 60 million people.

6.5M times 119K p.a. = 775 billion per year..............to oversee the medical professionals and decide which old people and conservatives should be killed this month.

But I can&#039;t see a problem with that paltry sum.  Sure, that is over and above the various estimates of 900 billion to 2 trillion per year for Death Care, but it&#039;s for a good cause, right?  And besides, the country has 30 million unemployed people who sure can use jobs on death panels.  I&#039;m for rushing right down to the drainage ditches right now to begin training them!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget, being the 3rd largest employer in the world doesn&#8217;t count doctors, nurses, and other medical professionals!!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the paper shufflers, tax enforcers and death panels!!!!!</p>
<p>Well let&#8217;s have some fun with math.  Recent data is showing that the average government job costs the taxpayers $119K per year, according to Jacoby. (of course, that&#8217;s just compensation and doesn&#8217;t count management overhead, office costs, travel, and other costs of doing business.  In other words, it&#8217;s a HIGHLY CONSERVATIVE estimate of the annual cost of a government worker)</p>
<p>The UK has about 1.3 million death panelists and paper shufflers.  So we should have about 6.5 million, assuming we are as &#8220;efficient&#8221; as them, since our population is more than 5 times their pop of 60 million people.</p>
<p>6.5M times 119K p.a. = 775 billion per year&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..to oversee the medical professionals and decide which old people and conservatives should be killed this month.</p>
<p>But I can&#8217;t see a problem with that paltry sum.  Sure, that is over and above the various estimates of 900 billion to 2 trillion per year for Death Care, but it&#8217;s for a good cause, right?  And besides, the country has 30 million unemployed people who sure can use jobs on death panels.  I&#8217;m for rushing right down to the drainage ditches right now to begin training them!!</p>
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		<title>By: TwilightZoned</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162891</link>
		<dc:creator>TwilightZoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$5 billion will be a drop in the bucket if a singer payer system
goes through.  If the British health care system is the 3rd largest
employer in the world, America would surely take over 1st by leaps
and bounds over whom ever comes in second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$5 billion will be a drop in the bucket if a singer payer system<br />
goes through.  If the British health care system is the 3rd largest<br />
employer in the world, America would surely take over 1st by leaps<br />
and bounds over whom ever comes in second.</p>
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		<title>By: MinnesotaRush</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162888</link>
		<dc:creator>MinnesotaRush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well .. I&#039;m delighted to hear o-blah-blah&#039;s putting $5B into healthcare jobs. I was afraid it was taxpayer money!

DOH!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well .. I&#8217;m delighted to hear o-blah-blah&#8217;s putting $5B into healthcare jobs. I was afraid it was taxpayer money!</p>
<p>DOH!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162869</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama 2008 &quot;We live in the greatest country in the world.  Join me in changing it!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama 2008 &#8220;We live in the greatest country in the world.  Join me in changing it!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162865</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t the plan always been to get Acorn devotees jobs in the medical profession.

The medical profession isn&#039;t &lt;strike&gt;stupid&lt;/strike&gt; diverse enough today.

Bertha and Obamy want to transform it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t the plan always been to get Acorn devotees jobs in the medical profession.</p>
<p>The medical profession isn&#8217;t <strike>stupid</strike> diverse enough today.</p>
<p>Bertha and Obamy want to transform it.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162864</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shovel ready takes on new meaning. Not what we were told it was.

It&#039;s just a slush fund for liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shovel ready takes on new meaning. Not what we were told it was.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a slush fund for liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162862</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh THANK YOU  OH GREAT ONE!   THANK YOU for your omniscience.   For your all-knowing and all-seeing, so superior to my own abilities.  

Just keep it up monkey boy.   Keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh THANK YOU  OH GREAT ONE!   THANK YOU for your omniscience.   For your all-knowing and all-seeing, so superior to my own abilities.  </p>
<p>Just keep it up monkey boy.   Keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: caligirl9</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162861</link>
		<dc:creator>caligirl9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, but, but, I thought that research added to the high cost of medical care in the U.S.? Research bad. No new research. Keep costs down.
(Yes, I am joking. Sort of.)
Cutting-edge research in every state? When there are states that have problems getting doctors and nurses to work there in the first place?  
Many of these jobs are a bit more complicated than a job a high school dropout could do. At minimum most require some sort of vocational education, and those programs are underfunded.
The problems created by this administration continue to trickle down ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but, but, I thought that research added to the high cost of medical care in the U.S.? Research bad. No new research. Keep costs down.<br />
(Yes, I am joking. Sort of.)<br />
Cutting-edge research in every state? When there are states that have problems getting doctors and nurses to work there in the first place?<br />
Many of these jobs are a bit more complicated than a job a high school dropout could do. At minimum most require some sort of vocational education, and those programs are underfunded.<br />
The problems created by this administration continue to trickle down &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Abhour</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162857</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Abhour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of the funding will be used to advance the death march. Euthanasia - Abortion - Clone and Kill.....

Obama is a freak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of the funding will be used to advance the death march. Euthanasia &#8211; Abortion &#8211; Clone and Kill&#8230;..</p>
<p>Obama is a freak.</p>
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		<title>By: Confucius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162855</link>
		<dc:creator>Confucius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see it now.

--Prostate exams done by plumbers.
--Breast reconstruction surgeries done by carpenters. 
--XRays read by electricians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see it now.</p>
<p>&#8211;Prostate exams done by plumbers.<br />
&#8211;Breast reconstruction surgeries done by carpenters.<br />
&#8211;XRays read by electricians.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-to-put-5b-into-healthcare-jobs#comment-162852</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take the Moron out of the equation, and I could support this spending, particularly since it appears to already be funded through the Depression Stimulus.

But that assumes that it would actually be given to legitimate researchers.

And what are the odds of that happening?

In reality, this will be another $5 billion in political payoffs to Obamy&#039;s crime partners.

One other thing, it&#039;s possible to predict how many jobs $5 billion will create.  Of course, the calculation I will show will be PERMANENT jobs, not the 3 week jobs that moronistration likes to brag about.

To figure out permanent jobs, you have to know what the job &quot;costs&quot; and what the expected ROI (return on investment) for $5B is.

Since the jobs are for research, $100K per year is probably a decent guess (since that would include about $30K in costs for SS matching, health benefits, 401K matching, FUTA, SUTA, plus administrtive overhead to sustain each job).

The ROI is more challenging.  Corporate ROI&#039;s on average are 8 to 9%.  Currently interest rates are 1 to 2%.  But for grins, let&#039;s use the bigger number because that yields a much bigger number of jobs.

$5B * .085 / 100K = 4,250.

So, a VERY OPTIMISTIC analysis says that the top end of the SUSTAINABLE jobs that could be created by this money is 42.5% of the &quot;tens of thousands&quot; of jobs the moronistration claims.   (if you use an ROI of 6% which is close to historical norm for T-Bill rates, the number of permanent jobs would be 3,000.

If Obamy says something......you know it&#039;s a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take the Moron out of the equation, and I could support this spending, particularly since it appears to already be funded through the Depression Stimulus.</p>
<p>But that assumes that it would actually be given to legitimate researchers.</p>
<p>And what are the odds of that happening?</p>
<p>In reality, this will be another $5 billion in political payoffs to Obamy&#8217;s crime partners.</p>
<p>One other thing, it&#8217;s possible to predict how many jobs $5 billion will create.  Of course, the calculation I will show will be PERMANENT jobs, not the 3 week jobs that moronistration likes to brag about.</p>
<p>To figure out permanent jobs, you have to know what the job &#8220;costs&#8221; and what the expected ROI (return on investment) for $5B is.</p>
<p>Since the jobs are for research, $100K per year is probably a decent guess (since that would include about $30K in costs for SS matching, health benefits, 401K matching, FUTA, SUTA, plus administrtive overhead to sustain each job).</p>
<p>The ROI is more challenging.  Corporate ROI&#8217;s on average are 8 to 9%.  Currently interest rates are 1 to 2%.  But for grins, let&#8217;s use the bigger number because that yields a much bigger number of jobs.</p>
<p>$5B * .085 / 100K = 4,250.</p>
<p>So, a VERY OPTIMISTIC analysis says that the top end of the SUSTAINABLE jobs that could be created by this money is 42.5% of the &#8220;tens of thousands&#8221; of jobs the moronistration claims.   (if you use an ROI of 6% which is close to historical norm for T-Bill rates, the number of permanent jobs would be 3,000.</p>
<p>If Obamy says something&#8230;&#8230;you know it&#8217;s a lie.</p>
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