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Obama Wants Third Party To Control NSA Data

From a cheering Associated Press:

AP Source: NSA phone data control to come to end

JULIE PACE | 1/17/2014

WASHINGTON (AP) — Seeking to calm a furor over U.S. surveillance powers, President Barack Obama on Friday will call for ending the government’s control of phone data from hundreds of millions of Americans and require intelligence agencies to get a secretive court’s permission before accessing the records, a senior administration official said…

Obama will announce the decisions in a highly anticipated speech at the Justice Department. He will not offer his own plan for where the phone records should be moved and will instead call on the attorney general and intelligence community to recommend a transfer point before March 28, when the collection program comes up for reauthorization…

So Obama wants the control of this data to be given to someone else, but he doesn’t know who?

Privacy advocates say moving the data outside the government’s control could minimize the risk of unauthorized or overly broad searches by the NSA.

So some third party is going to have control over this data? And we are supposed to trust them?

A presidential review panel proposed moving the data to the telephone companies or a third party. However, the phone providers have balked at changes that would put them back in control of the records, citing liability concerns if hackers or others were able to gain unauthorized access to the records…

We are totally confused. Don’t the phone companies already control this data? Is Obama suggesting that they not share it with NSA?

But the changes are expected to be met with pushback from some in the intelligence community, who have been pressing Obama to keep the surveillance programs largely intact

One thing is for sure. Obama and the rest of the left do not want to improve our country’s intelligence abilities. So none of their proposed changes will be for the better.

Reacting to reports of Obama’s plan, retired Gen. Michael Hayden, a former NSA director, said "no one will hold it (the phone data) as well."

Lest we forget, we still have never heard how NSA has ever abused this data. Unlike, say, the IRS, which is getting no such reforms.

Obama is also expected to call for the creation of an independent privacy advocate on the secretive court that approves the phone record collections. The court currently hears arguments only from the government.

While the privacy advocate post has broad support, a U.S. district judge this week panned the recommendation as unnecessary and possibly counterproductive…

Sure, we need to have the ACLU sign off on all intelligence gathering. What could go wrong?

This article was posted by Steve on Friday, January 17th, 2014. Comments are currently closed.

9 Responses to “Obama Wants Third Party To Control NSA Data”

  1. Chrispbass says:

    So he’s going to have a 3rd party, presumably under govt oversight, watch another govt organization. I have a feeling that Obama has less power than whoever controls the NSA.

  2. Astravogel says:

    In the 1st. Century, the Roman Praetorian Guard began to
    control the Emperor, and it later came to be purchasable,
    with the Senate largely impotent, or in fear of their lives if
    they tangled with the wishes of the Guard. Interesting to
    see if this scenario plays out now. I still wonder who, or what
    group, manufactured the current President (TCP).

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      This and for many other reasons is why I’ve been saying for years now that we have become Rome, 63AD.

      The parallels of human government and human behavior throughout history are glaring and has led me to firmly believe that people never change. Technology improves, things get discovered, etc., but people populate the bell-curve in the same way that they have since antiquity.

      There will always be X% who behave as murderers, thieves, etc.
      There will always be X% who are wanting to be taken care of and expend extraordinary amounts of energy to that end
      There will always be X% who just try to carve out a living an be left alone.

      Etc., etc.

      Meanwhile, the other variable is who controls the money. At the risk of sounding contrary, it’s a “fixed” variable. That is, more simply put, whoever controls the money, controls the power. If the people who control the money are benevolent and largely of decent character, then the world seems to be a safer place. If not, then everyone’s in for it, and how.

      One of my favorite expressions is, “Never underestimate the human genome to game any system”. It’s part of the God-given mental ability that has us rise above the other mammals on the planet, but with the additive of free-will, people become dysfunctional and evil.

      That same free-will can result in great, wonderful things as well. There are extremes on both sides. Right now we are experiencing some of the poorest human behavior where even the people who perpetrate evil think they are good.

      Largely, the ability to be self-critiquing has been lost and thus perception is reality and anyone who points out the fallacy is to be condemned.

      So…I have decided that to be human is largely a self-driven endeavor and that those who decide to cultivate evil are to be ignored. Sadly, this seems to be a huge portion of the population these days.

  3. GetBackJack says:

    I’m guessing he wants an outfit at 430 South Capitol St. SE Washington, DC 20003 to control the raw collected data …

  4. untrainable says:

    I keep hearing that “…we still have never heard how NSA has ever abused this data.” Who exactly is going to provide us with proof of abuse? NSA? DOJ? We can’t even get to the truth about the murder of the American Ambassador to Libya. Hitlery asks “What does it matter…?” and somehow that gets her off the hook? The fact that there is that much data being collected is proof in itself of abuse of power, and shows a total disregard of the rights of the American people. They have the data. Your right to freedom from illegal search and seizure has already been violated.

  5. Petronius says:

    I nominate the Russians.

    They have the advantage through long experience. They practically invented internal spying, and they’re probably already tapped into the NSA mega-data anyway.

    And after all, they never lose sight of the real enemy –– the FSB handed the Tsarnaev brothers to us on a silver platter, but the FBI was so focused on Tea Party people they couldn’t be bothered with Chechen terrorists.

  6. canary says:

    Untrainable, I agree, and the records should be given back to each individual they belong to. The phone companies and servers should not have given them to the feds without a legal battle,
    and the federal government nor any 3rd party should have access to them.

    As it is no law kept the phone and servers from letting customers know, now Obama wants to give the Government more control and say they can do it and make the companies keep it secret.

    They should be sent back to the person who owns them. No doubt they the government wants to keep them to spy on every citizen in the US.

    If most weren’t even looked at then why weren’t they shredded immediately.

    And now the Federal agents can’t go go by religion, national origin, and so it implies to me they will continue this process on every American.

    This is the most pathetic the ACLU have ever been in doing absolutely nothing.

    Obama was just caught recording telling that lady that fell he hoped her a speedy recover. He has always been paranoid trying to read people’s minds.

    Feels like we are in North Korea

  7. captstubby says:

    “if you like your privacy, you can keep it,”
    Rand Paul

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