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Obama Wrong About Classroom Hours

From a discreet Associated Press:

More school: Obama would curtail summer vacation

By Libby Quaid, AP Education Writer Sun Sep 27

WASHINGTON – Students beware: The summer vacation you just enjoyed could be sharply curtailed if President Barack Obama gets his way.

Obama says American kids spend too little time in school, putting them at a disadvantage with other students around the globe.

"Now, I know longer school days and school years are not wildly popular ideas," the president said earlier this year. "Not with Malia and Sasha, not in my family, and probably not in yours. But the challenges of a new century demand more time in the classroom."

The president, who has a sixth-grader and a third-grader, wants schools to add time to classes, to stay open late and to let kids in on weekends so they have a safe place to go.

"Our school calendar is based upon the agrarian economy and not too many of our kids are working the fields today," Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a recent interview with The Associated Press…

Obama and Duncan say kids in the United States need more school because kids in other nations have more school.

"Young people in other countries are going to school 25, 30 percent longer than our students here," Duncan told the AP. "I want to just level the playing field."

While it is true that kids in many other countries have more school days, it’s not true they all spend more time in school.

Kids in the U.S. spend more hours in school (1,146 instructional hours per year) than do kids in the Asian countries that persistently outscore the U.S. on math and science tests — Singapore (903), Taiwan (1,050), Japan (1,005) and Hong Kong (1,013). That is despite the fact that Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong have longer school years (190 to 201 days) than does the U.S. (180 days).

Regardless, there is a strong case for adding time to the school day

In typical fashion, the Associated Press buries the fact that Mr. Obama and Education Secretary Arne Duncan are simply wrong to claims US kids spend less time in the classroom than do students in countries that outperform us.

And even then the AP felt it had to spill twice as much more ink explaining how, even though Mr. Obama and his lackey are factually wrong, they are still right.

Of course the reasons for Mr. Obama to want a longer school day and a longer school year are at least two-fold.

First, more hours, more days, means more pay for the already lavishly paid teachers in the teachers union. And they are a major Obama constituency.

But perhaps even more important is that more time spent in school will mean more time children will be taught to sing the praises of Mr. Obama and the liberal agenda in general.

So we will be turning out even more Democrat voters.

And that is always job one.

This article was posted by Steve on Sunday, September 27th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

19 Responses to “Obama Wrong About Classroom Hours”

  1. Liberals Demise says:

    Hells Bells!
    If only they (Feds) didn’t require that B.S. be taught and got back to the fundamentals of education little Johnny and Susie would know more than how to weigh grams and ounces for their street trade.
    Can’t say that about ACORN High Scrools seeing they perpetrate scams and cons; Flim Flams if you will; on the Federal level!!
    (OOPS …. did I print that out LOUD?)

    • caligirl9 says:

      Not only back to the fundamentals, but rely more on the family for things that have no business being discussed in school (politics, sexuality). A kid needs math, science, English and history. Electives such as art and music. Encourage participation in after-school sports. There is no reason to be teaching early elementary school kids stuff like human sexuality, homosexuality, etc. That’s best done by the parents.
      Of course, there I go again assuming that all parents are reasonable or have the brains to know what their kids need to know at certain ages. I guess I assume too much competency for many Americans. Sad.

  2. proreason says:

    Steve’s right again.

    It’s all about indoctrination.

  3. Rusty Shackleford says:

    First, let’s address the quality issue…then maybe we’ll talk about the quantity issue.

    You have to rememebr what the attention span of children is. And of course, it varies but in general a six hour day is a long time. Even for many adults…given the amount of time you (Obama) actually are working at doing your job.

    So lay off the kids, mister.

  4. Paulajay says:

    Many studies show that the longer our kids spend in public schools, the dumber they get. Fourth graders are a bit above average compared to other civilized countries but by age seventeen, Americans outrank only Lithuania, Cyprus and South Africa. If Obama forces kids to spend even MORE time in school, we’ll be dead last. The upside of this is that Obama will lose his voting base if he pushes this through — the idiot youth…

  5. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Question: And what to do about the need to increase the pay of the teachers, bus drivers, cafeteria workers, etc?

    Answer: No problem. We will increase the Individually Determined Increase Over Time (IDIOT) amount to cover that…but it’s not a “tax”. It’s an “incentive”. This way, each family, whether they have kids or not, will be able to contribute the maximum amount, as decided by me (heh, heh, heh, ain’t I summpin’?) so that all schools will get the money they need to function through the entire year. Plus, there will be money allocated to have huge ginormous posters of me on the walls of every school and I was thinking about publishing a little book, written by me, of course, for the kids to carry around that had lessons on how to be good citizens. We’re thinking, preliminarily, of giving it a real zippy red binder.

    Question: What if a person has no children and opts not to pay the IDIOT amount?

    Answer: Oh, well,….you know, that would be unpatriotic and we would de-incentivize that person’s pay or maybe attach a lien to their property.

    Question: Isn’t that punishment?

    Answer: Why, NO….it’s de-incentivization. You know….like…when you take a kids toys away or send them to their room.

    ——–And so it would go with some talking head axing the questions and the boy putting on his tap shoes and struttin his stuff fo’ sho’

    I’ve really had it with this piece of cheese.

  6. Petra says:

    Who gave him that right? It’s none of his business.

  7. GL0120 says:

    Okay folks, a bit of clarification here.
    1.) Kids will NOT be in classes even 5% more; they’ll be part of TCO’s volunteer corp hanging pictures of our Dear Leader, or vandalizing the property of those who disagree with him.
    2.) The teachers will be taken care of; TCO is smart enough to know that if he fills their empty skulls with enough mush, there won’t be room for critical thought and over the years, the teachers have excelled at stifling any critical thought.
    3.) As to who gave him that right – he did! All rights spring from the federal government and he runs the government.
    Don’t believe me though, ask a Czar.
    They’re all in agreement that any opposition to TCO not only should, but MUST be silenced.
    They praise Hugo Chavez’s takeover of the media in Venezuela and believe that freedom of speech should occur within limits set by the government.

    So, if our Dear Leader feels it’s necessary to extend the school year, it’s our duty as good citizens, to shut up and go along. After all, he won!

  8. Rusty Shackleford says:

    If ever there was an argument for the privatization of schools, this would be it.

    But, it’s yet another case of “here we go again”. First it was one issue, then while that was embroiled in controversy, he goes onto another one…then another then another…starting fires all over the place.

    Obama appears as the political fire-bug. He lights them and then watches with glee as the metaphorical conservative fire crews show up to express their anger and to fight the new inferno. He eventually gets bored and then goes and lights another one, elsewhere.

    It could be seen as just creating massive chaos and keeping the opposition jumping all over. If the opposition ignores it to stay focused, he’ll stay on the distractor and it will be passed into law. If the opposition takes the obligatory defense, then they push on it enough to keep it going and then start another fire elsewhere. I think it’s a tactical agenda on his part and as the months wear on, there are issues a’plenty open from Iran to health-scare, to massive spending to car maker takeovers, etc.

    Very possibly, his intent is to just keep doing this to wear down the opposers so we’ll give up. However, as was discussed at work today…this could bring about significant change of the kind he hadn’t anticipated. I won’t be specific but when sufficiently aroused, the American people have a curious habit of showing their anger in less than polite ways.

  9. proreason says:

    Cloven Piven. It’s a known radical strategy. Swamp em with bullshit. Overload the system. File lawsuits. “Organize” millions to collect every known benefit. Throw out a million pieces of legislation. Picket everything. Start a hundred brush fires at once.

    Steve has posted about it before.

  10. canary says:

    Obama wants for propaganda. Most schools have 7 classes now, the important ones as the others shortened to 45 minutes. They have sucide classes (write your obituary and plan how you want your funeral (done at Columbine school by the way) ,

    ENGLISH assignment “Extended Metaphor Poems”.
    Two poems, 16 sentences long, none have to rhyme! both poems on
    comparing you life to an object. If they get the child to open up, the first 16 lines, they get 16 more lines. ” Try NOT (their capitalization) use
    “trite” phrases like “My life is like a box of chocolates” or “Life is like a rollercoaster”.

    “Be creative: 1. “How is your life like a like a torn page””

    propaganda informing the child they know their life is like a torn page, home problems, etc. to get the child to tell their personal problems.

    2. “How is you life like “a smudge” on the cafeteria table?”

    propaganda is telling the child we know you feel alone, and a mess, garbage.
    3. “How is your life like a football game”

    propaganda is to check for agression, violence, competitiveness, winning, losing.
    Imagine your child reading these poems in front of the class room.

    I consider it illegal and in violation of the very school law that Obama practices to keep America from knowing Obama’s grades.

    How about “my state school superintendent is like the devil”

  11. JaneLovesJesus says:

    we’re in serious need of the separation of school and state.

    • canary says:

      amen. Obama wants longer days to prepare our children for the Hitler labor work camps they will be assigned to work at 16 hours a day.

  12. wirenut says:

    As my Father told me back in the early 70’s. Be aware of the “Educators”. Didn’t realise what it meant then, do now !
    Dad made it through Europe under Patton’s command and God’s Will. I wonder what Dad would say now!

  13. Rusty Shackleford says:

    I bookmarked this earlier this year….and it is very appropriate to the subject at hand.


    http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/the-duh-generation/ (Scroll down past the videos to the written part)

    “School days…school days.
    Ah yes; most everyone remembers them fondly.

    But inside our hallowed halls of education, what’s taking place could be more aptly be described as a school daze– a leftist-slanted, decidedly liberal way of not instructing our children in the “three R’s”, but rather feeding them a constant stream of “San Francisco” style mainstream liberal teachings.

    Today’s students aren’t being educated– they’re being indoctrinated!

    The children of today can’t read, write, add, subtract, multiply, divide, or spell, or even speak English correctly. They, like, uh, like, can’t communicate too well– unless it’s by text messages.

    But these youthful, ecological tyrants can talk all day about how plastic bags are destroying ocean life, or argue vehemently about why the United States should never have gone into Iraq. They learn all about social injustice, and the necessity of trying to be “fair” to everyone at all times.

    Many elementary school children are profoundly troubled by the thought that global warming will eventualy burn up their earth. And in almost every school (and college), students are led to believe that CO2 is a poison gas, and its release into the atmosphere must be placed under some type of government authority.

    Today’s children aren’t being taught science; but they can tell you why we should use the new light bulbs. And they can talk extemporaneously for hours about coastal cities being swamped because we refuse to give up oil– the commodity which is basic to our economic strength.

    Today’s students don’t have a clue about why it’s critical to construct new power plants and refineries (to enable the U.S. economy to expand along with its population). But instead they’re taught to hate the big oil corporations. Thus, they retain a basic anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, anti-American liberal inbreeding.

    So what is going on in the classrooms of today? Apparently not education.
    In 2007, only 36 percent of American eighth graders were rated ”proficient” in reading on the National Assessment of Education Progress. The math results were similar. This means hundreds of thousands of students, having reached the threshold of high school, have yet to master the ability to read critically or do basic computations, let alone grasp the essentials of science, history and civics.

    Today’s high school graduates can’t make change, or compute percentages; many couldn’t qualify for a part time retail job even if it were available
    But this isn’t even the worst problem. Yes, it’s bad enough that we’ll have 75 million functional illiterates interacting throughout our society for the foreseeable future.

    Let’s call them the “duh” generation.

    And functional illiteracy is only the beginning; the worst problem is political demographics– the effect this dumbed-down generation will have on future elections.

    Just in the last election, Barack Obama won by a 52.7% vs. 46% margin over John McCain; but Obama didn’t exceed 50% in any voting groups, except for the under 25 (69%) and the black vote (94%).

    Could this portend future doom for the Republican party? Definitely!

    Political conservatism is slowly going the way of the incandescent light bulb. The National Education Association (teacher’s union) is seeing to that. Anecdotal stories of liberal-slanted teacher-classroom incidents abound:

    Last summer, in the Clark County School District in Las Vegas, a ten year old boy had written a letter to president Bush, and got a reply. But when the excited 4th grader brought his letter from the President to school, his teacher told him to put the letter away, citing, “no politics in class”. Then the same classroom teacher instructed all her students to write a letter to President-elect Obama several months later.

    In the classrooms of today, republicans merit zero tolerance:

    In Carmel, California, a 16 year old high school girl, the only Republican on her debate team, was told to… “sit down and shut up until you have something intelligent to say”.

    American Enterprise Institute’s magazine published a survey of voter registrations. More than nine out of 10 teachers belonged to the Democratic party.

    Disturbing stories have surfaced over the past months, further highlighting just how far many segments of American education have now elevated Barack Obama.

    A concerned parent reveals that his 1st grader son complained of having to pledge allegiance every day at school to a huge projected image of Mr. Obama.The 6-year old told his father that the teacher put up a large image of the new president next to the flag. What is worse is that he said all of the kids in class each faced Obama, instead of the flag that hangs in the corner.

    What the heck is going on…is this supposed to be what we call citizenship in the community?

    Or what about citizenship in the nation? The liberally-slanted history that today’s students are being taught is so polarizing, it’s almost as if we’re splitting into 2 nations –the old vs young, depending on WHEN one went to school.

    Modern American history textbooks speak little of the American Revolution, or Civil War; or the two world wars; or all the United States stands for– freedom won through hardfought victory over tyranny through all its years.

    Today, revisionist history texts focus on the U.S. as an imperialistic, racist country, with groups being pushed in & out of slavery; groups have been denied rights, and America’s bullying of nations.

    The story of the Klan is given more weight as an influence in the country than all the great inventors, all the great Presidents, and all the great statesmen of our American past.

    On campuses, conservative opinion doesn’t qualify as respectable inquiry. You won’t often find conservative principles discussed, or patriotism argued on the American campuses of today

    Imagine the America of the future:

    A country where all the doctors, engineers, and architects are foreign, due to today’s inability of teaching science or math properly.

    An America sliding to its inevitable third world migration, where enviro-radicalism abounds: Recycling bins everywhere. People riding bicycles, and driving little insect-like “green energy” cars to work. People living in small houses, with green “living” roofs, sleeping in 55 degree bedrooms– to both conserve energy and save the environment.

    And imagine the politics– our Constitution, hanging by a thread…traditional marriage, individuals’ right to property, freedom of speech– all under assault, becoming subservient in the name of moral equivalency.”

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