Comments on: Obama’s Cairo Speech – The Transcript http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript Sat, 26 May 2012 14:48:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: preparing4theworst http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149717 preparing4theworst Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:48:04 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149717 I was reading this the other night and had to laugh because as stated at the end of the article 1) most of the math concepts were developed in India and expanded in greece, the whole compass thing (I read a book about the history of the compass several years ago- by a mathatician I think) and it was from china to italy (the arabic word for compass seems to have an italian origin- John Crandall), Calligraphy- wern't the chinese using very descriptive idiograms since sometime BC?, Peaceful contemplation...again the chinese and later the japanese concepts of peaceful environment=internal harmony? BUT..if you have ever seen the dance of the seven veils...now THAT IS timeless and I so cherish THAT memory...... I was reading this the other night and had to laugh because as stated at the end of the article 1) most of the math concepts were developed in India and expanded in greece, the whole compass thing (I read a book about the history of the compass several years ago- by a mathatician I think) and it was from china to italy (the arabic word for compass seems to have an italian origin- John Crandall), Calligraphy- wern’t the chinese using very descriptive idiograms since sometime BC?, Peaceful contemplation…again the chinese and later the japanese concepts of peaceful environment=internal harmony? BUT..if you have ever seen the dance of the seven veils…now THAT IS timeless and I so cherish THAT memory……

]]> By: BatK http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149364 BatK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:57:21 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149364 Genesis 17:19 -22 "19 Then God said, "Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. [d] I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. 21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year." 22 When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him." The covenant was NOT established with Ishmael, but with Isaac. Genesis 17:19 -22

“19 Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. [d] I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. 21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year.” 22 When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.”

The covenant was NOT established with Ishmael, but with Isaac.

]]> By: BatK http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149363 BatK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:48:47 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149363 Not quite, wardmama... just because Ishmael is a descendant of Abraham, does NOT necessarily mean the god/gods he chose to worship is the same God his father worshiped. Jacob had a twin brother who worshiped the Canaanite gods (and we see later Scripture where the Lord says "Jacob I love, but Esau I hated.") Prior to the Arabs becoming monotheistic Muslims, they were polytheists, and one of their gods was Allah, the moon god. I do believe they are physically the of the descent of Abraham, but I can guarantee you that Jews worship the God of Israel (as He refers to himself in the Bible) not the god mentioned in the Qur'an who calls for their destruction. You can't have it both ways. Either the Jews are God's chosen people (as stated repeatedly throughout the Old and New Testament) or, as the Qur'an teaches, Muslims are REALLY God's chosen people. Definitely a conflict of interest. Not quite, wardmama… just because Ishmael is a descendant of Abraham, does NOT necessarily mean the god/gods he chose to worship is the same God his father worshiped. Jacob had a twin brother who worshiped the Canaanite gods (and we see later Scripture where the Lord says “Jacob I love, but Esau I hated.”) Prior to the Arabs becoming monotheistic Muslims, they were polytheists, and one of their gods was Allah, the moon god. I do believe they are physically the of the descent of Abraham, but I can guarantee you that Jews worship the God of Israel (as He refers to himself in the Bible) not the god mentioned in the Qur’an who calls for their destruction. You can’t have it both ways. Either the Jews are God’s chosen people (as stated repeatedly throughout the Old and New Testament) or, as the Qur’an teaches, Muslims are REALLY God’s chosen people. Definitely a conflict of interest.

]]> By: wardmama4 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149359 wardmama4 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:57:30 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149359 And BatK the Bible also says this: "Behold you are with child And you shall bear a son And you shall call him Ismael Because the Lord has given heed to your affliction. And he will be a wild donkey of a man His hand will be against everyone And everyone's hand will be against him And he will live to the east of all of his brothers. Genesis 16:17 Which many believe is the start of the Arabs & Islam. If true, however, it means Islam's God is the Christian's God & the Jew's God which would then mean that Islam is just another distortion of God and religion by man. You know, a cult. And BatK the Bible also says this:

“Behold you are with child
And you shall bear a son
And you shall call him Ismael
Because the Lord has given heed to your affliction.
And he will be a wild donkey of a man
His hand will be against everyone
And everyone’s hand will be against him
And he will live to the east of all of his brothers. Genesis 16:17

Which many believe is the start of the Arabs & Islam.

If true, however, it means Islam’s God is the Christian’s God & the Jew’s God which would then mean that Islam is just another distortion of God and religion by man. You know, a cult.

]]> By: Paulajay http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149357 Paulajay Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:49:48 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149357 Obama ONLY used the words "I" or "me" sixty times during his speech. Didn't watch the speech but after reading the transcript, I was wondering -- was there loud applause when he mentioned the 9/11 attack and the murder of 3,000 Americans? Or perhaps a standing "O" in honor of the "Magnificent Nineteen" as the hijackers are fondly referred to in the Arab world.... Obama ONLY used the words “I” or “me” sixty times during his speech. Didn’t watch the speech but after reading the transcript, I was wondering — was there loud applause when he mentioned the 9/11 attack and the murder of 3,000 Americans? Or perhaps a standing “O” in honor of the “Magnificent Nineteen” as the hijackers are fondly referred to in the Arab world….

]]> By: BatK http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149356 BatK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:18:01 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149356 Lib Demise... well THEORETICALLY anyway, what you win in war, you keep... nobody talks about the JEWISH refugees who were kicked out of the surrounding Muslim countries and were not allowed to take anything with them. What about THEIR reparations? Lib Demise… well THEORETICALLY anyway, what you win in war, you keep… nobody talks about the JEWISH refugees who were kicked out of the surrounding Muslim countries and were not allowed to take anything with them. What about THEIR reparations?

]]> By: JohnMG http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149355 JohnMG Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:00:41 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149355 ....."When you win a war, you don’t give the spoils back to your enemy......" Conversely, when you lose a war you don't get to make demands and give orders. The so-called Palestinians are too stupid to have a country even if they were entitled to one. And speaking of stupid, Obama........ …..”When you win a war, you don’t give the spoils back to your enemy……”

Conversely, when you lose a war you don’t get to make demands and give orders. The so-called Palestinians are too stupid to have a country even if they were entitled to one.

And speaking of stupid, Obama……..

]]> By: Liberals Demise http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149354 Liberals Demise Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:57:58 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149354 Uh ....... we have and did! (several times!!) Uh ……. we have and did! (several times!!)

]]> By: BatK http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149352 BatK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:51:32 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149352 As far as the Palestinian "refugee" problem you can thank the Arab League for that. The modern Arab nations as we know them were craeted by the Allies following WWI. When Israel was granted statehood by the UN on May 14, 1948, the very next day, those same newly made Arab nations launched a cooperative assault on Israel, and told the local Arabs to get out since they were going "wipe out" the Jews. Obviously, they lost. When you win a war, you don't give the spoils back to your enemy. As far as the Palestinian “refugee” problem you can thank the Arab League for that. The modern Arab nations as we know them were craeted by the Allies following WWI. When Israel was granted statehood by the UN on May 14, 1948, the very next day, those same newly made Arab nations launched a cooperative assault on Israel, and told the local Arabs to get out since they were going “wipe out” the Jews. Obviously, they lost. When you win a war, you don’t give the spoils back to your enemy.

]]> By: BatK http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149351 BatK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:48:46 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149351 What's more is that he completely ignores the fact that the right of the Jews to the Land of Israel goes back a whole lot further than the Holocaust (or the so-called 60 year claim of the Pals). There have been Jews in the Land since Abraham (you know, that guy he claims is the father of Islam), and the according to the Bible, that Land was promised to Abraham's descendants through the lineage of Isaac and Jacob, NOT through the line of Ishmael or Esau. That promise was given over THREE THOUSAND years ago. There has ALWAYS been a Jewish presence in the Land since then (regardless of whether the Land was referred to as Israel, Judea, or as the Romans later termed it, "Palestine"). The modern mass immigration of Jews to the land actually began in the late 1800's and has continued both before and after the Holocaust. There was no such thing as a "Palestinian" until 1967. To even REFER to "Palestine" as if it was ever a country that existed or will exist, demonstrates Obama's true feelings regarding Israel and its right to exist. They're not allowed to even allow for "natural growth" (which the Road Map, incidentally DOES allow for), but meanwhile, he recognizes the right of a terrorist group (Hamas, Fatah, et al) to "negotiate" as a peace partner. What’s more is that he completely ignores the fact that the right of the Jews to the Land of Israel goes back a whole lot further than the Holocaust (or the so-called 60 year claim of the Pals). There have been Jews in the Land since Abraham (you know, that guy he claims is the father of Islam), and the according to the Bible, that Land was promised to Abraham’s descendants through the lineage of Isaac and Jacob, NOT through the line of Ishmael or Esau. That promise was given over THREE THOUSAND years ago. There has ALWAYS been a Jewish presence in the Land since then (regardless of whether the Land was referred to as Israel, Judea, or as the Romans later termed it, “Palestine”). The modern mass immigration of Jews to the land actually began in the late 1800′s and has continued both before and after the Holocaust. There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until 1967. To even REFER to “Palestine” as if it was ever a country that existed or will exist, demonstrates Obama’s true feelings regarding Israel and its right to exist. They’re not allowed to even allow for “natural growth” (which the Road Map, incidentally DOES allow for), but meanwhile, he recognizes the right of a terrorist group (Hamas, Fatah, et al) to “negotiate” as a peace partner.

]]> By: 12 Gauge Rage http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149345 12 Gauge Rage Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:21:10 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149345 I was about to commend our POTUS for denouncing those who denied the Holocaust ever existed. But then he went and blew it when he tried to state that the plight of the Palestinians was somehow a moral equivalent. I was about to commend our POTUS for denouncing those who denied the Holocaust ever existed. But then he went and blew it when he tried to state that the plight of the Palestinians was somehow a moral equivalent.

]]> By: Liberals Demise http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149343 Liberals Demise Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:56:56 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149343 What heart? Oh...you mean that black, pulsating thing in the left chest cavity? What heart?

Oh…you mean that black, pulsating thing in the left chest cavity?

]]> By: Lurkin_no_mo http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149342 Lurkin_no_mo Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:50:53 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149342 O/T S&L rated 58th of most popular sites! Huffington is #1.....yuck. http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/whose-who-in-the-politcal-blogosphere.html. Hope the link works, this is the first time I've ever dropped a link at a site. I'm sure the rest of you agree with me that S&L is much more awesome than Huffpuff. On the other hand, Ace of Spades didn't even make the list. O/T S&L rated 58th of most popular sites! Huffington is #1…..yuck.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theno.....phere.html.
Hope the link works, this is the first time I’ve ever dropped a link at a site.
I’m sure the rest of you agree with me that S&L is much more awesome than Huffpuff.
On the other hand, Ace of Spades didn’t even make the list.

]]> By: Lurkin_no_mo http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149341 Lurkin_no_mo Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:57:23 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149341 Also being a student of history, I recall that our first true projection of power as a nation was against the Muslim Barbary Pirates in 1801-1805 and again in 1815, History also teaches us that if we really want to win a war, we must destroy those people (leaders) and reasons that caused us to go to war in the first place. Nothing ticks off a soldier more than having to refight a war they supposedly already fought and won, i.e. WW1, 1st Gulf War, and now we may be fighting the next Korean War, although, admittedly, the last one wasn't really in the WIN column. Also being a student of history, I recall that our first true projection of power as a nation was against the Muslim Barbary Pirates in 1801-1805 and again in 1815,
History also teaches us that if we really want to win a war, we must destroy those people (leaders) and reasons that caused us to go to war in the first place. Nothing ticks off a soldier more than having to refight a war they supposedly already fought and won, i.e. WW1, 1st Gulf War, and now we may be fighting the next Korean War, although, admittedly, the last one wasn’t really in the WIN column.

]]> By: Lurkin_no_mo http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149338 Lurkin_no_mo Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:44:14 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149338 ...and if you're a woman in a muslim society, it gets a even worse! …and if you’re a woman in a muslim society, it gets a even worse!

]]> By: Lurkin_no_mo http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149337 Lurkin_no_mo Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:40:21 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-cairo-speech-the-transcript#comment-149337 Catie, looks like your doing a good job with your child. "Out of the mouths of babes..." Catie, looks like your doing a good job with your child. “Out of the mouths of babes…”

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