SubscribeNew Pastor Compares Wright To Jesus Christ
From Fox News:
In Easter Sermon, Trinity United Pastor Compares Rev. Wright to Jesus
Sunday, March 23, 2008
The new pastor at Barack Obama’s church used his first Easter sermon on Sunday to compare controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. to Jesus’ death at the hands of the Romans.
Sunday’s sunrise sermon, delivered by Rev. Otis Moss III, was called “How to Handle a Public Lynching” and focused primarily on the media firestorm that has focused international attention on this Chicago ministry, which is the church attended by the Democratic presidential candidate.
Moss did not directly mention his spiritual mentor by name, but implied to the congregation at Trinity United Church of Christ that Wright, who has delivered sermons in which he likened the U.S. to the Ku Klux Klan and said it is damned for its state-sponsored terrorism, is facing the same challenges Jesus did.
“No one should start a ministry with lynching, no one should end their ministry with lynching. The lynching was national news. The RNN, the Roman News Network, was reporting it and NPR, National Publican Radio had it on the radio. The Jerusalem Post and the Palestine Times all wanted exclusives, they searched out the young ministers, showed up unannounced at their houses, tried to talk with their families, called up their friends, wanted to get a quote on how do you feel about the lynching?” he said.
The Sunday services made clear that the criticism surrounding Wright has not softened the church’s sermons, and that the controversy has in a way served as a rallying cry for this 8,000-member congregation.
“If I was Ice Cube I’d say it a little differently — You picked the wrong folk to mess with,” Moss said to an enthusiastic congregation, standing up during much of the sermon.
The Wright controversy seemed an unspoken thread to Sunday’s services, as the pastors repeatedly alluded to the matter without calling out Wright by name. And they defiantly defended their method of worship.
Bishop Vashti Murphy McKenzie in her sermon talked about visionaries like “King” and “Gandhi” and “Jeremiah” (it was unclear whether she meant Wright), and argued that their words weren’t about “anger,” but about “a passion that demands confrontation.”
“The purveyors of information are trying to be judge and jury over prophetic utterances,” she said.
Moss issued several pleas to congregants to donate to what he called the “Resurrection Fund,” stressing that during this time of battle, money is needed to defend the church. He offered no additional specifics about the fund, telling churchgoers he didn’t want to get into it because Trinity is streaming the service live on the Web and the services are available for purchase on DVD.
He concluded with another analogy, saying, “In order to crucify him you’ve got to lift him up … he had more visibility on the cross than he did during his entire ministry.” …
Holy moley! Yes, the similarities are obvious.
And speaking of similarities:
What is up with Trinity using such a Muslim image as a red crescent?
They seem to be taking their aping of the Nation Of Islam a little too far.
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March 23rd, 2008 at 12:50 pm
OK, lets nail him to a cross and see if he rises in 3 days.
That ought to clear up the controversy.
I will provide the hammer and nails.
March 23rd, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Why anyone is stupid enough to believe that it was “just” Wright that was responsible for this church’s long standing history of preaching hate I’ll never know.
Of course the MSM will ignore this and gloss over it, because only right-wing whites can preach hate; for this church it’s merely a sermon on “soclail injustice” and the trials and tribulations of “living as a Black in White America.”
March 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
-’“How to Handle a Public Lynching”’-
lynch: v.t. To kill (a person accuded of a crime) by mob-action, as by hanging, without due process of law. . .
Is Rev. Wright dead? -
Was he accused of a crime?
Was he hung by a mob?
Again, is Rev. Wright dead?
Metaphors aside - using this terminology to ‘preach’ on the discussion that has ensued over the controversial statements, HWCBN’s back and forth and non-apology, HWCBN’s judgement or lack thereof, the racial issues this whole mess has brought up - is a lot of things -
Debate, argument, discussion, dispute, deliberation, consideration, and possible reflection.
It was not ever -
Hanging or executing without benefit of law (interesting that there is only one definition and no synonyms for this word - very, very specific).
And using it thusly -“How to Handle a Public Lynching”- constitutes hate speech and inflamatory speech - and so it goes.
March 23rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm
You can watch a webstream of Trinity’s “service” here:
http://tinyurl.com/2ruzs6
It’s not clear whether it is a rebroadcast of the one reported by Fox. But so far it sounds very similar.
March 23rd, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Interesting… I thought it was only the Mormons who has government execution orders sworn out against it (Mississipi, repealed 1978)… now, it seems “whitey romans”, aka the white-run government is doing through Bush-controlled news agencies.
Although, I find the comparison to The Lord offensive, I might have it wrong… this malpracticing minister must be making he comp. w/the thieves that were also on Golgotha. Moss & Wright, thieves — now that deserves an “a-men”!
My eyes have been opened… I may never believe another claim of racism leveled by a black.
- martin.musculus
March 23rd, 2008 at 1:50 pm
After reading this little article I’m beginning to believe that black liberation theology is just a mask for Islam.
http://tinyurl.com/2kqfa4
HT: God Help Britain blog
Tom
March 23rd, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Let me get this straight: on Easter Sunday, the holiest day of the year for billions of Christians around the world, his sermon “focused primarily on the media firestorm that has focused international attention on this Chicago ministry.”
Ask me again why I don’t think Barack Obama is a Christian.
March 23rd, 2008 at 2:07 pm
I meant to add this to my previous post on the article “What has Rev. Wright Wrought?” but since this came up I’ll say it here. Obama is seeking POWER. That is what his Alinsky studies taught him and this is what he himself taaught. Every speech is designed to get his audience in a very depressive mood by focussing on a lot of diverse vignettes of people with various problems. Then he revs up the HOPE and CHANGE message to haul them into his camp. He wants to occupy the chair of the most powerful person on earth so that he can CHANGE the country and the world. For 20 years he’s occupied a chair in Trinity United Church of Christ and he has been POWERLESS to change anything. The only thing he has had and still has the POWER to CHANGE regarding this church is his own membership. For Wright, Moss and the rest, if you don’t approve of the message or how it’s delivered, Obama, then you know where the door is.
March 23rd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Wright got a Masters degree in Islam in the area of West Africa in the 19th century - see the Church pamphlet cited. Muslims apparently attend the church/mosque with the encouragement of the Pastor. A good thing one might think because it gives him the opportunity to bring them to Christ but that doesn’t appear to be the intent. When I hear them speak they say things like God (Allah) AND Jesus. It’s like Jesus is just another prophet - something Muslims believe. Here’s a note from Wright and an article on progressive Muslims by someone called Omid Safi. Omid talks about the Islamic Progressives mission to bring equality for women in Islam - blah blah - but the kicker is he also says they must stay within their basic teachings and we know where that circular path leads. Which doctrine is going to have to accommodate? I think about that Archbishop of Canterbury and his accommodation for sharia. Lambs to slaughter lead by their leaders.!
http://tucc.org/upload/tuccbulletin_july8.pdf
Thanks for that article on Black Theology. Talk like MLK. Think like MalcolmX.
March 23rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
A few pages down on that bulletin link Petra posted is the ad for Akiba, the church’s bookstore. The books they are pushing are by a guy named Cornel West. Who is Cornel West? Well a few years ago CNN asked the same question.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/f.....arvard.ap/
More insight into the “black mind” of Trinity.
Also same bulletin there is an invitation to become a new member. To do so you must take a course called “Black and Christian”. I wonder if the Obamas took this course or something similar to become full-fleged members. I don’t recall in any of the churches I have ever been part of in the last 50 years having a course called “White and Christian” has ever been required as orientation to full church membership.
March 23rd, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Obama is a wolf in (black)sheep’s clothing. A tiny voice in my head keeps clammering about what the heck is he spending over 1.5 million a day on? Maybe he is helping to build up weapons and food caches in all the black churches(mosques) across America? Be warned and wary of this man.
March 23rd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
You know I was beginning to tire of the HWCBN topic line - until it registered - that is exactly what the msm, dnc and HWCBN want -
Which is why this election deal started on November 8, 2006 - so that Americans would so tire of the back and forth - was this planted (and by who) and accusation after implication, after inuendo after outright lies - that by now we’d all be sick and tired and numb - so that the worst possible candidate - among three worst possible choices - would get the win simply because by November 4, 2008 most of the American citizens would be like -’Inasmuch as the current presidential election has come down to a choice among hemlock, self-immolation or the traditional gun in the mouth’- [Ann Coulter] - what choice do we have, they are all as bad as the other - as none of these candidates is inspiring except to a small, specific group - that isn’t what the position of POTUS is supposed to be about.
Muslim, non-muslim - isn’t really the issue - and given todays pc’ness one claiming that will likely be branded a kook and dismissed. The issue is that the church preaches hate and victimization to one segment of America against another - and one of the candidates has chosen that church to be his ’spiritual’ grounding point. . .No one in America will benefit from such a candidate - the sad thing is I do think the majority of black people will never even understand that they will be thrown under HWCBN’s bus just as fast as the rest of America. . .
If he has no alligence to his own family - what makes anyone think that he will stand by his ‘race’ (whichever one he choses), his church, his country? He has already shown more than once (as has his wife) that their country is an easy toss for both of them - if they hate America as it is - what is their desire for ‘what they want it to be?’ You can speak in euphemisms all day about justice, poverty and equality - but for whom, in comparison to what, and most importantly - who is deciding exactly what is justice, poverty and equality? Who has it and who doesn’t have it? Why you HWCBN, why not me? Who decides HWCBN - who probably never suffered a day of poverty in his life - or maybe his best bud Oprah who came from the most abject and horrible family history to rise to the top of it all (and a held down black woman at that). . .A black woman is Secretary of State. . .I have to ask - when is it enough, what is enough and exactly why isn’t it enough yet?
Maybe because HWCBN sat in a pew every Sunday for 20 years hearing hate, anti-American speech being called - Christian and empowering. . .Maybe because HWCBN doesn’t even want a debate - he wants a mandate of his choosing. . .
He forgot one verse of the Bible - Beware of false prophets - and We must not forget one important fact of politicians Beware of false Presidential candidates.
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Blasphemy on Easter…I may be a bit too Catholic for my own good, but I’d say Moss and TUCC are building up some serious time in Hell.
Maybe at some point they’ll actually come to Christ and seek forgiveness for following a false and fraudulent version of a religion, one that apparently places race above humanity, hate above love, and vengeance in place of forgiveness…and only worships God on a conditional basis.
But I doubt it. Pride goes before a fall, and they’re way too full of themselves to stand much longer. This hate-filled excuse for theology had been flying under the radar for a LONG time, and while I’d like to think that being exposed to the light of public knowledge will make it vanish, my gut tells me that these people will dig in their heels and grasp onto it even more tightly…and the rhetoric will become even more toxic and angry.
I really feel sorry for them…if they only knew that Christ was here to free our souls from the cancers of hatred that infest us, they’d be so much better off. I’ll pray for them to find Him…and I hope they actually do. But sometimes, to find Him, you have to realize that you need to be looking, and I suspect that the people at TUCC have so fallen for the racism masquerading as Christianity that they won’t realize how far off the trail they were until their dying days.
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Sharps,
Beware, if you say a black is wrong then you are a racist hate monger. Just ask doc.
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Fine, 1st…then I’m a hatemonger. I just hope he has the nads to come to the ranch and tell me in person…but I doubt he does.
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:15 pm
then I’m a hatemonger
That is “RACIST HATE MONGER”
Try to get it right next time, Gees
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Well said, Sharps! Spoken like someone who truly knows the heart and mind of Jesus Christ! Well said…..
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:31 pm
1st, I stand corrected.
ptat, I wish I knew His heart and mind…my life might have been a wee bit less “interesting” than it was. I know we all have skeletons in our closets, I just happen to have Boot Hill in mine.
Seriously, though, I DO get sick of the double standard. I had been taught since I was a kid to try to accept someone for who he is and what he is capable of, not for what he looks like. I saw the value of that teaching when I was in the service, because I served with some really excellent people, of all ethnicities. If my mind had been as closed as so many folks’ minds seem to be, I’d have missed out on getting to know people who did us all a great service…some good pilots, navigators, weather and ops personnel, maintenance folks, CE’s, aircrew members…and honestly, I wouldn’t want to live in a country that would be so racially oriented as TUCC, doc and Wright seem to be. How anyone could carry THAT kind of a weight on their souls is beyond my capacity to understand. I’ve done some pretty awful things in my time…but hating to that level, thank God, hasn’t been one of them.
Depressing thing to think about on the day Christ came back to us…but I guess some people still aren’t listening to Him, and they really need to.
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:17 pm
“All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn.” - Barack Obama
Or, as rephrased by Mickey Kaus in Slate magazine:
“If it offends you, I condemn it!
“This seems to be the General Rule of Obama — if it’s going to damage him, he condemns it! And rejects and denounces. Vehemently! The Rule would seem to apply to all past and future controversial statements — his campaign could get that sentence printed up on little laminated cards and hand them out to reporters, or include them after the statements of all Obama surrogates, like those fine-print ‘void where prohibited’ waivers. ‘Condemned if controversial.’”
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:26 pm
I see the new pastor has lost his Louis Farrakhan bow tie. He must be reading this blog. lol
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Wright Replacement Calls NPR ‘National Publican Radio’:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/m.....ican-radio
March 24th, 2008 at 2:34 am
A little more background on Obama:
http://www.pickensdemocrats.or.....070319.htm
March 24th, 2008 at 2:58 am
I’m beginning to believe that black liberation theology is just a mask for Islam.
Nah, it’s more like communism combined with black ethnocentrism. Or as Cone would argue, the “original communism.”
March 25th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Petra mentions Omid Safi in an earlier post and I must say thanks. I had heard this name before but couldn’t place it without a search.
Thanks again Petra.
Some links to further “illustrate” some of Safi’s beliefs……….
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/381
http://www.beliefnet.com/story.....556_1.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhim.....004982.php
http://pmunadebate.blogspot.co.....union.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhim.....016819.php
Enjoy!!
March 27th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Voice of Reason - thank you so much - I meant to look him up but…. Great research. Looking forward to reading about him - reminds me of a smoke and mirrors kind of guy.