Comments on: Rights Comm To Investigate PA Pool

By: badcrow

badcrow — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:46:34 +0000

This is close enough to me to be on my local news a few days back. I responded to the local affiliates website with several questions about how the story was covered and spun. Mainly I was suspicious of the “officially reported” version of these events. Obviously the reporters didn’t ask the right questions of the right people–they “fished” for few inflammatory quotes and “built” a story of racial animus that went far beyond what actually occurred.
–ALL OF MY POSTS WERE REMOVED FROM THE COMMENT SECTION IMMEDIATELY.
I fired off a quick email to their complaints/comments dept. and they quickly responded with a denial of censorship. I responded with a clear description of my postings, and an explanation of why they did not meet the standard for removal, they responded by denying removal and saying they would never do that and THEN explained that they could have been flagged and removed (gee, I thought they didn’t do that?)
My point in the postings was that reporters and editors have a responsibility to their profession to provide the best objective reporting they can so that the people can be educated to make the best decisions. As a whole the MSM has abdicated this responsibility–they’re now bought and paid for, and I’m sick of it.
The point I’m trying to make here is that it’s not enough to p*ss and moan about this fact on our favorite blogs. IT’S NOT ENOUGH AND IT DOES NO GOOD! What needs to happen is people who are tired of this “media abdication” must go directly to the source and confront the eds., reporters and mgrs. of these offending media outlets. We must not allow a single misrepresented story to go unchallenged. Those in charge must get direct, immediate ONE-ON-ONE feedback from us, calling them on the carpet and DEMANDING that they change. Continuous pressure applied directly is the only way to GET ANYTHING VALUABLE DONE! So it’s time to stop rolling over for these hacks! Get your facts straight, be civil and get in their faces! Constant pressure will be the only tool that causes true change.

By: Liberals Demise

Liberals Demise — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:24:03 +0000

canary …..could it have been the the camp center told the club about a totally different number of children that were going to utilize the pool? If you claim that only 20 at the most is all you would bring at any one time, I can see the $1,900.00 for the summer. I suspect that this is the case and the camp misused the contract to bus in 65 youths. That amount of kids would swamp any pool of at least Olympic size. Why is it you never hear of any other minority having any of these problems? My money is on the Day camp abusing its’ permit to the pool.

By: Media_man

Media_man — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:04:32 +0000

This story has all the trappings of the many noose hanging canards that ended up being fabricated by the originators.

The race pimps ginned up this fairy tale. There really is no hope for this country when this kind of BS gets national coverage. God help us.

By: leerm8680

leerm8680 — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:44:22 +0000

Perhaps this is the ramblings of an old man, but a couple of things come on mind:

1) The club president, Mr. Duesler is a known supporter of president Obama.
2) The current administration has said that you shouldn’t let a crisis go to waste
3) Although past trends may not indicate future performance, does anyone think a partisan commission from a blue-state would drop a financial-hammer on a (somewhat) prominent Obama supporter? Perhaps a quick “show-trial” so the MSM can say the commission is doing something, then quietly backing off.
4) Whether or not this is a self-induced crisis, it has opened a great opportunity for government expanding it’s power while at the same time reducing our freedom and choices.

By: neocon mom

neocon mom — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:22:01 +0000

And remember also that this “human relations commission” has extraordinary power, just at the alleged whiff of wrongdoing. It’s akin to the power of an I.R.S. audit–whether you’re guilty or not, complying with the investigation is so disruptive, costly and in this case, damaging to public relations as to be punitive. All that’s needed to unleash such hell is words.

By: neocon mom

neocon mom — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:04:22 +0000

artpa I respectfully urge you to consider the fact that two other summer camp groups (non-minorities) were also given their money back and asked to find another place to swim. Is it possible that 65 children of any race suddenly descending on a pool is kind of overwhelming and possibly even unsafe for all involved, and that crowds might drive away loyal club members?

The complexion statement is indeed troubling but does that guy really speak for all involved?

Please withhold judgment, like I said, remember the Duke Lacrosse rape case and President Brodhead releasing allegedly “damning” e-mails between the accused players. Remember that many in the msm took it for granted that the rich, white players were guilty.

Isn’t Philadelphia the same city plastered with “Free Mumia” flyers too?

I’m not calling the kids liars, but they know the score when it comes to white guilt.

By: artpa

artpa — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:57:03 +0000

I’m an old school conservative and Bible thumping born again. Lilly white, cause i haven’t been “down the shore” in a while. These were young kids not gang-bangers but after this experience, they might just grow up to be them.

By: Petronius

Petronius — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:49:12 +0000

artpa: “shame on them, mostly the parents for pulling their kids out of the pool.”

Do you think it possible that that white mother had just finished reading the news report about Akron? About Marty Marshall, tough construction worker, recently released from the intensive care unit, his wife and two kids, who were suddenly swarmed and savagely beaten by fifty black kids at the July 4th fireworks? (See below: “Black Mob: ‘This Is a Black World.’”)

Do you think it is possible that the sight of all those black kids swarming into the pool might have triggered such a memory in that white mother? Possible that all of those white mothers might have acted properly for the protection of their little children?

I do not regret for one moment that I pulled my daughter out of her public school. My only regret is that I did not do it a few years sooner.

By: bronzeprofessor

bronzeprofessor — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:38:01 +0000

Canary, I take documentaries with a grain of salt. Who made the documentary? There may be some white extremists who join the military with the intent of acquiring AK-47 experience and learning how to rig explosives, but the rigorous training and forced cooperation in multiracial units will root out the vast majority of racists in the armed forces. I think white supremacists in civilian unregulated life pose a greater risk.

Just my 2 cents.

By: artpa

artpa — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:30:04 +0000

I grew up in this city, i’ll bet a billion bucks, these were liberal elite constantly nail filing women who became outraged when blacks invaded their white only country club, no suprise the prez of the club was an Obama supporter either, silver spoon hipocrites. Do as I say, not as I do….

By: canary

canary — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:13:37 +0000

Well, one thing is for sure the children were doing nothing criminal because the Civil Rights Liberty Union aren’t helping them. The pools advertisement photo’s do not show minorities. Well, it’s a blight for the pool, and a blight in the children’s memories minds.
And since the day care said they didn’t want their money back, but to swim in the pool, the pool said it was from over-crowding (yeah right when they knew in advance and paid in advance (maybe a white person made the arrangements) then they should allow them to come back for a free swim day normal hours to make up for the big inconvience on the day care and children. Then there will be more news and photos to watch every little detail.

bronzeprofessor, I saw a documentary on the white supremists joining the military. They said they were joining to increase their fighting and killing skills and experience, to put to use on the outside when they get out. They interviewed a former member too. It talked about the gangs in prison too.

By: artpa

artpa — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:01:38 +0000

here’s some local coverage … http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp.....ontroversy

By: wardmama4

wardmama4 — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:55:27 +0000

On the SPC item – Do you know how easy it is to get a ‘uniform’ and claim you’re military? Just for grins – there are more ‘MOH’ ‘claimers’ than there have been MOH medals presented to living persons.

I just really dislike people who claim to be holier-than-thou who are making stuff up, lying and twisting situations just to do what – keep the hate alive, make a buck, heap guilt on the innocent?

So John Duesler is what – a hypocrite to have supported Obama and ‘peace, social justice and kumbaya song fests’ but shuns children on a racial basis or was he misquoted or taken out of context – not that the State Media would ever do something like that. Ever.

And yes this Pennsylvania Human Rights Commission sounds just like the Canadian one – which to me is just a legalized extortion racket.

By: artpa

artpa — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:54:38 +0000

NM, understand your point, but its been all over the news here for days and what some of the kids heard and parents and staff said was very bad.

By: bronzeprofessor

bronzeprofessor — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:36:13 +0000

Yes, I posted a bunch of their more recent articles on the Selected News thread. Something has to be done about them, they constantly smear and misrepresent people, yet they still command institutional respect for some reason.

By: proreason

proreason — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:29:08 +0000

Professor, interesting clip.

Steve has frequently identifies that Southern Poverty Center as a reverse racist organization with zero credibility, btw.

By: bronzeprofessor

bronzeprofessor — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:12:53 +0000

ProR, Check this out. I posted this on the Selected News thread too.

http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?aid=384

You’re right, everything racial has to be blown up way out of proportion.

By: proreason

proreason — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:06:30 +0000

It’s certainly possible the kids got turned away because of racism. Several posters have here have been sympathetic to the kids. From the video clip, I have some sympathy as well.

But I think Steve’s point in bringing up the story was different. There are several other important issues:

1. From the original story, what was going on with the big-time Obamy backer being the spokesman for the pool association. Is he a hypocrit? Was he stirring up trouble on his own? What was that all about anyway?

2. What’s with this Human Right’s Tribunal thing. Good grief!

3. Would this story have ever hit the press if the kids were white? Almost surely not.

4. And why does everything like this have to be turned into a racial lecture for America? You can just as easily view it as a bunch of rowdy kids irritating the parents who thought they had purchased some security for their own kids. Personally, I wouldn’t want a bunch of strange kids showing up at the pool I had checked out and was comfortable with the safety arrangements, even if they were just from a couple of schools over.

By: Petronius

Petronius — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:48:09 +0000

I wonder if it would be possible to tally up the amount of money that is spent by outfits like the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission for the promotion, oversight, and regulation of multiculturalism? Tally up all the money spent on multiculturalism by all Federal, State, and local government agencies? By the military services? By businesses and corporations? By universities, churches, foundations, you-name-it? The amount spent in litigation? Add up all the costs, and I bet it would be in the tens of billions of dollars per annum.

Yet if multiculturalism is such a blessing, if it is something that –– as these Pennsylvania HRC posters proclaim –– comes naturally, something that we should all cherish and wish to celebrate, then why should it be necessary to spend anything to promote it? Why should we need all of these diversity agencies?