Comments on: Paper Finds Scams In Child-Care Program http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program Sat, 26 May 2012 20:55:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: curvyred http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131854 curvyred Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:06:04 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131854 I think due diligence should be applied BEFORE THEY ARE APPROVED, for example the social worker should verify the place of employement PRIOR to approval, problem resolved, and I think at the end of each calender year the recepients of the program should have to turn in w-2's and they would have to be matched (very easy to calculate the total numbers of hours worked) and if they don't match then the person is cut off from the program and turned over for fraud investigation. Look at this case and see if that would have made a different outcome in the end: "But when asked for details about her work, the answers got fuzzy. The Journal Sentinel could find no record of a clothing store called Family Owned. The Racine Area Manufacturers and Commerce and the state Department of Financial Institutions couldn't either. Simmons didn't list an address or phone number on documents filed with Racine County. Nor did the documents contain a federal tax identification number - all facts that should have raised the suspicion of Racine county workers. Yet workers approved funding for Simmons' kids to be in her sisters' care 75 hours per week, costing taxpayers a weekly total of $1,283." I think due diligence should be applied BEFORE THEY ARE APPROVED, for example the social worker should verify the place of employement PRIOR to approval, problem resolved, and I think at the end of each calender year the recepients of the program should have to turn in w-2′s and they would have to be matched (very easy to calculate the total numbers of hours worked) and if they don’t match then the person is cut off from the program and turned over for fraud investigation.

Look at this case and see if that would have made a different outcome in the end:

“But when asked for details about her work, the answers got fuzzy.

The Journal Sentinel could find no record of a clothing store called Family Owned. The Racine Area Manufacturers and Commerce and the state Department of Financial Institutions couldn’t either. Simmons didn’t list an address or phone number on documents filed with Racine County. Nor did the documents contain a federal tax identification number – all facts that should have raised the suspicion of Racine county workers.

Yet workers approved funding for Simmons’ kids to be in her sisters’ care 75 hours per week, costing taxpayers a weekly total of $1,283.”

]]> By: BK http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131775 BK Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:13:44 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131775 I have a friend as social services in KC and she said that this was the number one fraud. Sadly this case is not an exception. They do not have enough investigators to look into fraud either. I have a friend as social services in KC and she said that this was the number one fraud. Sadly this case is not an exception. They do not have enough investigators to look into fraud either.

]]> By: Liberals Demise http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131718 Liberals Demise Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:27:57 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131718 I am a single parent of 3 (was 6) teens and the ONLY thing I ever got or asked for was unemployment. Yes....we struggled but it made us closer and stronger as a family. Why do I get the feeling that a ACORN type thing is behind all of this? Call me a racist if need be but the facts will bear me out!! OH.....I'm sorry.........damn the facts! I am a single parent of 3 (was 6) teens and the ONLY thing I ever got or asked for was unemployment. Yes….we struggled but it made us closer and stronger as a family. Why do I get the feeling that a ACORN type thing is behind all of this? Call me a racist if need be but the facts will bear me out!!

OH…..I’m sorry………damn the facts!

]]> By: UndercoverInLA http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131715 UndercoverInLA Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:57:32 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131715 Once upon a time, newspapers large and small considered it one of their prime directives to expose govt. Fraud and waste... Once upon a time, newspapers large and small considered it one of their prime directives to expose govt. Fraud and waste…

]]> By: Colonel1961 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131700 Colonel1961 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:26:21 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131700 Fine work. Glad to see some great people out there... Fine work. Glad to see some great people out there…

]]> By: clifcrds http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131697 clifcrds Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:23:45 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131697 Three thoughts on this scam . . . 1 I respect the Sentinal Journal, they were the ones to break the "Urban Psychosis" defense that a black teenager from Milwaukee and her bleeding heart lawyer tried to use when the teenager claimed she felt that it was OK to kill a white teenage girl over her leather coat because society was always diss'n her and because she had a rough life. 2 How much waste and corruption would be stopped if all big city newspapers did investigative reporting? 3 Why does a city newspaper have to police the government anyway? Three thoughts on this scam . . .

1 I respect the Sentinal Journal, they were the ones to break the “Urban Psychosis” defense that a black teenager from Milwaukee and her bleeding heart lawyer tried to use when the teenager claimed she felt that it was OK to kill a white teenage girl over her leather coat because society was always diss’n her and because she had a rough life.

2 How much waste and corruption would be stopped if all big city newspapers did investigative reporting?

3 Why does a city newspaper have to police the government anyway?

]]> By: Media_man http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131674 Media_man Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:54:50 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131674 Jeff Allen (the unemployed lathe operator on the Comet while Dagny Taggert is rushing out to Utah): "What was it we were supposed to want to work for? For the love of our brothers? What brothers? For the bums, the loafers, the moochers we saw all around us? And whether they were cheating or plain incompetent, whether they were unwilling or unable-what difference did that make to us?" "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand (Part II, Chapter 10) Jeff Allen (the unemployed lathe operator on the Comet while Dagny Taggert is rushing out to Utah):

“What was it we were supposed to want to work for? For the love of our brothers? What brothers? For the bums, the loafers, the moochers we saw all around us? And whether they were cheating or plain incompetent, whether they were unwilling or unable-what difference did that make to us?”

“Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand (Part II, Chapter 10)

]]> By: 1sttofight http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131672 1sttofight Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:43:06 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131672 That is not pride, That is just being a Dad. That is what we do. That is not pride, That is just being a Dad. That is what we do.

]]> By: polemos http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131666 polemos Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:58:48 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131666 I was a single parent for 4 years. I don’t wish that life on my worst enemy it was a rough patch in my development as a man and father. I used hundreds of hours of my vacation to stay with my 2 boys when no other option was available. I was on bended knee repeatedly in my manager’s office explaining the childcare issues I was having. To his credit he was sympathic to my plight (being a garbage truck driver single parent oh and MALE helped). That said I never considered it ANY other persons responsibility to care, feed, clothe and watch my boys other than myself. Feeding at the public teat was never an option. I guess it was pride on my part. I was a single parent for 4 years. I don’t wish that life on my worst enemy it was a rough patch in my development as a man and father. I used hundreds of hours of my vacation to stay with my 2 boys when no other option was available. I was on bended knee repeatedly in my manager’s office explaining the childcare issues I was having. To his credit he was sympathic to my plight (being a garbage truck driver single parent oh and MALE helped).

That said I never considered it ANY other persons responsibility to care, feed, clothe and watch my boys other than myself. Feeding at the public teat was never an option. I guess it was pride on my part.

]]> By: Colonel1961 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131665 Colonel1961 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:57:49 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131665 4 people with 17 kids. Huh. Glad I'm paying for mine and theirs. Reason number 2,399,402 that socialism is a failure. 4 people with 17 kids. Huh. Glad I’m paying for mine and theirs. Reason number 2,399,402 that socialism is a failure.

]]> By: JohnMG http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131652 JohnMG Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:39:03 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131652 Is she the originator of the quote? I didn't think so, but I'm certainly no authority. Thanks, Mad Pole. Is she the originator of the quote? I didn’t think so, but I’m certainly no authority.

Thanks, Mad Pole.

]]> By: A Mad Pole http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131650 A Mad Pole Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:32:36 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131650 Clare Booth Luce, in H. Faber, The Book of Laws, 1980 Clare Booth Luce, in H. Faber, The Book of Laws, 1980

]]> By: dulcimergrl http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131646 dulcimergrl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:22:59 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131646 I don't know where the expression originated, but it's a song in the musical "Wicked": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KauKjrhYJIo&feature=related I don’t know where the expression originated, but it’s a song in the musical “Wicked”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

]]> By: Gila Monster http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131642 Gila Monster Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:12:43 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131642 <blockquote>McReynolds wouldn’t elaborate on the internal investigations but said the county hadn’t determined whether anyone committed fraud. <b>He added that his caseworkers "have an explanation for each one of these cases." </b></blockquote> Indeed Mr. McFraudnold, I'm <b>sure</b> they do, being the diligent state workers they are and such. No fraud here, just move along now. Is this guy a certifiable moron or what? I would like to see WI state statistics on how many children this program is supposedly helping or more importantly, the actual spending per child versus overall program cost. I dare say the majority of us here would fall out of our chairs in amazement, or anger, given those numbers.

McReynolds wouldn’t elaborate on the internal investigations but said the county hadn’t determined whether anyone committed fraud. He added that his caseworkers “have an explanation for each one of these cases.”

Indeed Mr. McFraudnold, I’m sure they do, being the diligent state workers they are and such. No fraud here, just move along now.
Is this guy a certifiable moron or what?

I would like to see WI state statistics on how many children this program is supposedly helping or more importantly, the actual spending per child versus overall program cost. I dare say the majority of us here would fall out of our chairs in amazement, or anger, given those numbers.

]]> By: JohnMG http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131640 JohnMG Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:06:26 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131640 "No good deed shall go unpunished". I wish I could remember to whom that quote should be attributed, but such often seems to be the case. Does anyone know who said this? “No good deed shall go unpunished”.

I wish I could remember to whom that quote should be attributed, but such often seems to be the case.

Does anyone know who said this?

]]> By: englishqueen01 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131638 englishqueen01 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:54:07 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/paper-finds-scams-in-child-care-program#comment-131638 Man, am I stupid! My mom has watched my son for nearly 2 years now. We should have gotten in on this scam and made some money. You know, she collects childcare payments, splits it with me 50/50 and we're both better off. Oh, wait...we didn't because it's <b>WRONG</b> and <b>IMMORAL</b> and just plain greedy! Why is it law-abiding taxpayers always end up getting punished for their good behavior? Man, am I stupid!

My mom has watched my son for nearly 2 years now. We should have gotten in on this scam and made some money. You know, she collects childcare payments, splits it with me 50/50 and we’re both better off.

Oh, wait…we didn’t because it’s WRONG and IMMORAL and just plain greedy!

Why is it law-abiding taxpayers always end up getting punished for their good behavior?

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