SubscribeNancy Pelosi’s Asinine Views On Energy
From ABC’s “This Week with George Stepanopoulos” and the Chicago Tribune:
Pelosi’s oil slick
August 4, 2008
by Frank James
It was hard to not get twisted up in pretzel knots listening to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whose explanation on “This Week with George Stepanopoulos” about why she hasn’t allowed a vote on Republican energy legislation that would ease restrictions on offshore drilling was, to be polite, confusing.
It may have left some in the audience feeling bewildered as a seabird fouled by an oil spill.
Pelosi, a California Democrat, accused Republicans of being monomaniacal on the drilling issue and of suggesting to voters that drilling would immediately lower gas prices. She wasn’t going to play along with something that would mislead voters, she asserted.
Here’s the problem with that. Anyone who has listened to the debate has heard House Republicans say they are willing to consider a range of options from the use of renewable energy sources to new alternative fuels to conservation so long as they can get a vote on off-shore drilling.
Evidence for this is found in energy legislation introduced by House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio, the American Energy Act which includes the language to encourage conservation and alternative-fuels research though it obviously places the stress on getting drilling opened up on the Outer Continental Shelf of the U.S. coasts.
REP. PELOSI: What we have presented are options that would really make a difference at the pump. Free our oil, Mr. President. We’re sitting on 700 million barrels of oil. That would have an immediate effect in 10 days. What our colleagues are talking about is something that won’t have an effect for 10 years and it will be two cents at the time. If they want to present something as part of an energy package, we’re talking about something. But to single-shoot on something that won’t work, and mislead the American people as to thinking it’s going to reduce the price at the pump — I’m just not going to be a party to it.
But then, she seemed to later suggest that she would indeed be a party to that, if only House Republicans are smart enough to push the right parliamentary buttons. Her statement came in response to Stephanopoulos’s insistent questioning as to why she didn’t permit a vote if her faith in her position was so strong.
REP. PELOSI: They’ll have to use their imagination as to how they can get a vote and they may get a vote. But I’m trying to — we have serious policy issues in our country. The president of the United States has presented this — but for this our economy would be booming, but for this, gas would cheaper at the pump. It’s simply not true. And even the president himself in his statement yesterday and before then has said, there is no quick fix for this by drilling.
So she will allow the American people to be misled, in her view, by Republican legislation that she says only offers the illusion of addressing high gas prices, so long as Republicans are smart enough to figure out how to get their legislation to the floor? That doesn’t make a lot of sense, but that’s what she appeared to say.
Pelosi seems to be subtly trying to adjust her position given the pressure she’s coming under from not just Republicans but Democratic House members too as the public has shifted with a majority now favoring more domestic drilling.
On one hand, what kind of leader would she be if she didn’t acknowledge that movement in public opinion? After all, the leader of her party, Sen. Barack Obama, the assumed Democratic presidential nominee, has now opened his mind to off-shore drilling so long as it’s part of comprehensive energy legislation.
But on the other hand, she hails from California where there’s long been a “No way, Jose”, or better yet “No way, San Jose” attitude about off-shore drilling. So she can’t just give up on opposing such drilling without inviting a severe backlash from her constituency.
Anyway, here’s a transcript of the relevant part of Pelosi’s discussion with Stephanopolous. Maybe Swamp readers will have more success finding a logical consistency than I did:
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me get to the substantive point he was raising there. You’ve been getting a lot of heat for not allowing a vote, an up or — straight up-or-down vote on expanding drilling off the coasts of the United States. Why won’t you permit a straight up- or-down vote?
REP. PELOSI: What we have presented are options that would really make a difference at the pump. Free our oil, Mr. President. We’re sitting on 700 million barrels of oil. That would have an immediate effect in 10 days. What our colleagues are talking about is something that won’t have an effect for 10 years and it will be two cents at the time. If they want to present something as part of an energy package, we’re talking about something. But to single-shoot on something that won’t work, and mislead the American people as to thinking it’s going to reduce the price at the pump — I’m just not going to be a party to it.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Except that it’s not just Republicans calling for this. Members of your own caucus say we must have a vote. Congressman Jason Altmire — let me show our viewers right now — is saying there’s going to be a vote. Here he says exactly, “there’s going to be a vote. September 30th will not come and go without a vote on opening the outer continental shelf. The message has been delivered. The issue can’t be ignored any longer.” He says he speaks for a lot of Democrats. He’s talked to the leadership, and a vote must happen.
REP. PELOSI: Well, maybe it will as it’s part of a larger energy package. But let’s step back, call a halt, and put this in perspective. What we have now is a failed energy policy by the Bush- Cheney, two oilmen in the White House — $4-a-gallon gasoline at the pump. And what they’re saying is, let’s have more of the same. Let’s have more of big oil making record profits, historic profits — you see the quarterly reports that just came out — who want to be subsidized — they don’t really want to compete — and let them use those subsidies to drill in protected areas.
Instead, we’re saying, free the oil. Use it, don’t lose it. There are 68 million acres in lower 48 and 10 or 20 million more acres in Alaska where they’re permitted, where they can drill anytime. This is a diversionary tactic from a failed energy policy.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: But if you feel you have the better arguments, why not give a straight up-or-down vote for drilling?
REP. PELOSI: Because the misrepresentation is being made that this is going to reduce the price at the pump. This is a, again, a decoy. It’s not a solution.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, but if you’re right, why not let it be debated out and have the vote?
REP. PELOSI: We have a debate every single day on this subject. What you saw in the Congress this week was the war dance of the hand maidens of the oil companies. That’s what you saw on the Republican side of the aisle. Democrats and Republicans are not right down party lines on this issue. There are regional concerns as well as some people concerned about what this means back home for them. But we have a planet to save. We have an economy to grow. And we can do that if we keep our balance in all of this, and not just say, but for drilling in unprotected — in these protected areas offshore, we would have lower gas prices.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: So what exactly are you trying to say? You say you might allow a vote as part of a comprehensive package, but you won’t allow a straight up-or-down vote on drilling oil?
REP. PELOSI: Well, I’m not going to — we have put on the floor free our oil; strong bipartisan support for that. Use it don’t lose it; strong bipartisan support for that. End undue speculation; strong bipartisan support for that. We’ve talked about these things. Invest in renewable energy resources so that we can increase the supply of energy for our country; strong bipartisan support for that. Over and over again –
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: And yet, you’ve brought those measures to the floor in a way under the suspension of the rules so that it couldn’t be amended with a drilling proposal.
REP. PELOSI: Well, we built consensus and have a strong bipartisan — this is what’s going to make a difference to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, to stop our dependence on fossil fuels in our own country, to increase the supply of energy into — and immediately, and immediately to reduce the price at the pump to protect the consumer.
So this is a policy matter. This is very serious policy matter.
It’s not to use a tactic of — one tactic in order to undermine a comprehensive energy package, to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, which is a national security issue, to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels in our country. Now, we should be talking about natural gas. That’s cheaper, better for the environment.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: But why not allow votes on all that? When you came in as speaker, you promised in your commitment book, “A New Direction for America” — let me show our viewers — you said that bills should generally come to the floor under a procedure that allows open, full, and fair debate consisting of a full amendment process that grants the minority the right to offer its alternatives. If they want to offer a drilling proposal, why can’t they have a vote?
REP. PELOSI: They’ll have to use their imagination as to how they can get a vote and they may get a vote. But I’m trying to — we have serious policy issues in our country. The president of the United States has presented this — but for this our economy would be booming, but for this, gas would cheaper at the pump. It’s simply not true. And even the president himself in his statement yesterday and before then has said, there is no quick fix for this by drilling.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: And Senator Obama has agreed with you. He says, listen, this is not the answer. Drilling is not the answer. But he said over the weekend that he might be willing to sign on to drilling as part of a comprehensive proposal.
REP. PELOSI: What Senator Obama said is what we want a president to say. Let’s look at all of the options. Let’s compare them. And let’s see what really does increase our supply, protect our environment, save our economy, protect the consumer, instead of a single-shot thing that does none of the above. While we give subsidies to big oil to drill in environmentally protected areas and instead of letting them –
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: So just — I want to move on to other issues. Just to be clear, you’re saying you will not allow a single up-or-down vote on drilling, but you will allow a vote on a package that includes drilling?
REP. PELOSI: No. What I’m saying to you is, as far as I am concerned, unless there is something that — you never say never to anything. People have their parliamentary options available to them. But from my standpoint, my flagship issue as speaker of the House and of this 110th Congress has been to reduce our dependence on foreign oil and to save — reverse global warming. I’m not giving a gavel away to a tactic that will do neither of those things, that supports the big oil at the cost — at the expense of the consumer.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: So you will not permit a vote. You may get beat, but you’re not going to permit a vote on your own.
REP. PELOSI: Well, again, we take this one step at a time, but while we’re spending all of this time on a parliamentary tactic when nothing less is at stake than the planet, the air we breathe, our children breathe, we have –
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: But that’s what I don’t understand. If you could get votes on everything else you care about, which you say there is strong bipartisan support, why not allow a vote on the drilling as well?
REP. PELOSI: Because the president will not allow any of these other things to come forward. Why are we not saying to the president, why don’t you release oil from the SPRO? In 10 days, we can have the cost of — the price at the pump go down? Why are you opposed to ending undue speculation in the oil markets? Why do you not insist that people who have leases on our land with permits ready to go use those?
The oil companies don’t want competition. And what we would do by saying, go ahead, give them their subsidies, allow them to drill in areas that are protected now instead of where they’re allowed to drill is to diminish all of the opportunity that we have for an electricity standard for our country where we set out standards that makes the competition for renewable energy resources better; which says to the private sector, invest here, because there is a standard that they have to honor. If you just say, it’s drill, drill, drill, drill, drill, what is the — and we’re going to subsidize it, we’re going to subsidize big oil — what is the motivation for the private sector to come in and say, we’re going to support these renewable energy resources –
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me move on to another –
REP. PELOSI: — wind, solar, biofuels, plug-in cars, natural gas, and other alternatives?
Things have come to a pretty pass when even some members of the media start to call you out for being (ahem) logically inconsistent.
But the problem is Mrs. Pelosi is literally a moron.
And, worst still, she hates capitalism — and indeed, this country.
It is a disgrace to our political system that she holds such a powerful position.
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August 4th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Calling her a ‘moron’ is an insult to actual morons everywhere…they’re much brighter and cogent than she.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Oh, come now. Her position is perfectly consistent. She won’t refuse to allow a vote as long as the vote doesn’t include drilling provisions, although she never will say never to anything, so drilling is a possibility, but we can’t have drilling because it would profit the oil companies, so she’ll never allow a vote on a package that includes drilling, unless it doesn’t include drilling. Free our oil, Mr. President! This is all your fault!
See? Quite easily explained.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
America is trully a wonderful place where the mentally challenged can find employment. Fortunately, we have a place where we put “morons” like this to work where they can’t hurt real enterprise. It’s called Washington*.
Problem is, the inmates are now running the asylum.
*A borrowed concept from the great PJ O’Rourke.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Here’s the real problem - Ms Pelosi has singlehandly brought The People’s House to a halt without allowing a vote upon the most important issue (my local msm says so every morning) in America today. Why? Simply because she knows, the Dems would lose the vote. If it was anything else (how many bills have they rammed through in the dark of night, so that ‘amendments’ and ‘debate’ could not be had?!?) - and if she is sooooo worried about a Presidential (oilman that he is!) veto - I thought that the Dems had the majority - thus could over-ride a veto.
Except that none of what we have been pap fed by the msm and Dems is true - Bush failed in the oil business - not a position that makes one a ‘buddy’ for very long. If the Dems had the majority (and the majority was in her camp) she’d run it through for a vote.
So it is because she knows two things:
The rational/moderate Dems are even turning on the DNC/radical left platform - of anything opposite of Bush uber alles.
and
She and her ilk - don’t have a majority (if they ever did). . .
And with their candidate falling (instead of rising) every day - Pelosi and the radical left want each and every American to suffer so that come Nov - they will vote Dem - since it is the President’s fault (the msm will tell us so every day).
Except those days are long past - this stunt actually shone the spotlight on exactly whose fault this is. The Dems in Congress who are beholden to the radical left and their agenda.
Besides staying in Congress and demanding a special session - the Republicans could win if they keep up the heat on voting on the Energy Bill - and return every dime of pork projects and earmarks to the Treasury.
Obamanation would be in single digits along with Congress. And the Republicans would win big in Nov in a 48 state landslide.
August 4th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
You’re right wardmama4 - and if a frog had wings…
August 4th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
I saw this embarassing display and was shocked ever more. Just when I thought she had said or done the supidest thing imaginable, she tops herself a day or so later. She is truly in way over her head and I hope and pray we see real leadership soon, like the Republicans are exhibiting today.
August 4th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
The Sanny Franny Nanny is neither insane, nor stupid. She’s very coldly calculating. She knows that the MSM is on her side, and she knows that as long as she plays a waiting game and the price of oil continues to drift upwards she can put the blame on the President.
Never mind that anyone who does the research can discover in about six seconds that the price of gas went up sixty-one cents from 2000 to 2006, and then 95% from 2008 to the mid point of 2008. (Coincidentally over the period when the dems had a majority in the House.) As long as Nan keeps blaming the president, she can make it easier for the Anointed One to take power. With the MSM on her side, she can continue to shovel the manure in her personal blog back onto the President, blaming him for every single one of her failures.
Pelosi is trying for the trifecta. Think about it, folks. She refuses to listen to the will of the people, 76% of which are in favor of drilling. I haven’t seen a single poll in a month where that indicated less than 65% of the American people were in favor of more drilling. However, Nanny knows best, and if she can hold off just a little bit longer, if the Obamination takes power:
1) Dems will control the House (assuming that their single digit approval ratings don’t lead to Republicans regaining seats).
2) Dems will control the White House.
3) At least one, possibly two Supreme Court Justices are likely to retire over the next four to eight years, if Barry and the leftists in Congress can appoint even ONE SC justice, they’ll have a comprehensive majority and be able to ram through any legislation they want.
Socialized medicine, gun grabbing, capital gains taxation… anything they want, they can get away with.
Pelosi is ignoring your wishes as a people in order to play for the ultimate prize: complete control of the American government. She is neither stupid nor insane. She knows EXACTLY what she is doing.
So, does anyone care to do the research on what it takes to impeach the Speaker?
Angry D.
http://angryd.livejournal.com
August 4th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I agree with angryd….pelosi is getting away with her bid for total socialist power. She knows an up or down vote would be devastating to the dems….so rather than let the democratic process go forward, she commits what amounts to a coup d tat to silence the republicans.
This is unprecedented in its scope, a single person who is not elected by the country now in total control of government until the anointed one completes the trio of power. We are witnessing the downfall of democracy and pelosi is leading the way.
She isnt stupid, nor dumb. She is a cold calculated traitor and should be tried for treason and sentenced to life without parole for her appalling betrayal of the principles that got her to where she is today. Her efforts are going to lead this country to the greatest peril it has ever experienced.
She needs to be impeached….she is not just a disgrace, she is a very frightening apparition that is strangling our freedoms to make way for total socialist dominance in what once was a democracy. She is laughing too, because the voice of our media is silent on this coup.
They are betting that they will do better under the democrat socialist form of government, and they are hell bent on making it happen. This is a scary time in our lives, and we are all going to pay a high price for not speaking up when it was legal to do so.
See you all at the gulags….
August 4th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
You guys are making me actually wish that Sheehan wins her bid to oust SanFranGranNan in Nov. And sadly you are right - the vile, American hating leftist Dems do want the trifeca of power and then it will be a really dangerous time for all conservative, religious and Constitution loving (and abiding and clinging) Americans. . .
I am just hoping on the results of the last two major elections - that the majority of Americans aren’t buying into the drivel - or at the very least all the Vote or Die Hippy Hop Obamanation supporters talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.
I do think however - as things get worse (in gas & economy) and better (as in GWOT), even some in the media can’t cling to the Dems insane position of not doing a damn thing and blaming it all on the President, because unlike the politicos they don’t have millions stashed away to tide them through.
Is it wrong to pray for two or three (radical, leftist) Supreme Court Justices to um, get a condition/disease that doesn’t kill them but forces them to step down - say before Nov?
Since we seem to be in some alternate stupid Wrong is Right universe right now - there are moments when a good prayer seems to be all that is possible to change the disaster that has befallen the American government. Because after 9/11 - I don’t even want to consider another attack on the US as a way to wake people up - the last time (Pearl Harbor) at least lasted a few years - this one barely lasted a few months. . .One can only wonder how little the next one will generate any unity and patriotism - maybe a week if we are lucky.
Here is just a quick look at ‘Impeaching a Senator/Representative’;
-’The Constitution permits the Senate to expel any member by a two-thirds majority vote. . .The Senate has also passed several resolutions censuring or condemning members; censure requires only a simple majority and does not remove a senator from office. . .
Furthermore, the Constitution permits the House to expel any member with a two-thirds vote.’-
Maybe it is time for We The People to take back our House!
August 4th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
You know what’s asinine? Me. And you. We waged political war for decades to get a majority in the House and Senate and then were blessed to obtain to all three branches simultaneously! Good Glory … it was the Promised Land! Sensible, down to earth, conservative Republicans finally in control of all the dials and switches and levers of the Federal Government at the same time!! I didn’t think I’d live to see the day!
And they pissed it away. The Republicans pissed on every thing sacred we sent them there to do. They turned into weak idiot offspring of the Democratic Party. Then they shot their own, and went on an orgy of pork.
The Republicans had control for years, and what did they do to insure energy independence from foreign interests???
Yeah, Pelosi is as crazy as a hooker in the last stages of syphillitic dementia, but if you’re holding onto a shred of hope the Republicans are going to rescue this situation, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you. They’re every inch as crooked and stupid as the party of Karl Marx. Or, do I need to remind you it was Bush the First who made off shore drilling out of bounds?
CONGRESS IS THE ENEMY.
Other parts of the world endure war lords, and narco-terrorist cartels. Here, our warlords are in Washington, DC.
August 4th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Yeah, GetBackJack - it does seem since the 60s things in DC have gone to hell - and even the Republicans haven’t stood up and been men or women except for a couple of exceptions -
But I do think if Congress were ever brought under control - I mean how did some entity whose purpose was to make law (as Public Servants, Representatives of the People) and be one of the checks and balances on the other two branches seem to grow into this self-absorbed, self-serving spendaholic power grabbing monster? And how to wrest that power back from them to make them realize that Public Servant and Representative means that they do We The Peoples bidding not their own?
Sadly, I think that they will have to take America to the brink of utter chaos and disaster before the majority will rise up and say enough. And sadder still - I wonder if that won’t be too late.
August 5th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Pure idiocy. Pelosi spews out ideas like an angry monkey in a cage flings his dung - hoping something will stick.
Peloonie and her liberal cohorts have no intention of solving the energy problem they created. They fire off platitudes and moronic ideas like flack for us to maneuver around. I found myself zoning out her inane answers…and I could not stop staring at what appears to be two eyebrows above each bugged-out eyeball.
She is better suited for a circus sideshow than the House of Representatives. Although, since she has been in charge, there is not a lot of difference.
August 5th, 2008 at 12:28 am
The Dems have a real problem on their hands….they’re trying to placate their wacko-environmentalist base and win a general election, which is why their focus now is to release oil from the SPR.
Pelosi, Obama, et al, know that Bush would never release oil for a temporary reduction in the price of gasoline.
High prices lead to two things: reduction in demand and increase in supply. Oh, and a third — a substitute effect, i.e. alternatives, and I’m not talking about corn or switch grass.
The HEB grocery store fleet runs on a 90/10 LNG-diesel mixture. Most long-haul trucks can be converted to this viable alternative without much expense. By simply shifting natural gas from the grid (the plug in your wall) to liquid hydrocarbons (stuff you pump into your tank), we could completely eliminate the need for foreign oil. Of course as our consumption grows, we’ll need to tap the OSC and oil sands and shales, and of course we’ll have to use more clean burning coal and and nuclear to fill the void, but this is doable.
But the Dems’ wacko base wants us to bicycle to work — I’m not kidding — and they oppose anything that’s not “sustainable”, i.e. renewable in the time frame it takes to consume. Unfortunately, until someone cracks the cold fusion puzzle, we’re stuck with solar energy that’s been stored in oil, coal, and natural gas for hundreds of thousands of years and nuclear for millions of years.
One last point, which I never hear anyone mention, even though the US (5% of the world’s population), we absorb all the CO2 we emit.
August 6th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Drilling – where my Democratic Representative really stands.
I read on another web site ( http://townhall.com/columnists....._dog_bluff )
that Nancy “San Fran Nanny” Pelosi is telling her fellow Democrats whose seats are being contested this November to use her Stalinistic Stance on not letting the offshore drilling bill come to an “up or down” vote as a smoke screen. The report stated that she supposedly told her fellow Democrats to go back home to their districts and report that they are all for “drill here – drill now” if it would help them win re-election.
So I thought I would test this story for factuality and call my local congresswoman’s office (Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin - “Blue Dog” Democrat who is up for re-election this November) to see what they had to say. However, before calling I had a few facts in front of me . . . just in case I might, just might, run into a Democrat spokesperson that was not really giving me the “skinny” . . . or should that be giving me the “skinny” as in DaliBama “skinny”.
I wasn’t rude when I called, I was actually very cordial and polite . . . after all, I knew who ever I ended up speaking to, they would be just doing their job no matter what they were going to tell me. Needless to say when I brought up the question of where my congresswoman stood on offshore drilling, the intern stated she talks about drilling like she was at a dentists’ convention. Not only does she support offshore drilling, she supports opening up the Mecca of Environmentalism, ANWAR, to the unclean oil infidels . . . and I didn’t even bring up ANWAR.
After he finished his “she is for drilling anywhere, everywhere” spiel, I asked him that if she is all for drilling, why did she vote “yea” to adjourn the House on July 31st for a 5 week break when Americans where waiting for Congress to act on an energy bill. The intern informed me that she had voted not to adjourn for a break earlier in the week to which I replied that that might be BUT when it came to actually voting to adjourn (House Bill #566, July 31, 2008) and take a five week vacation while Nancy “San Fran Nanny’s” do nothing/9% approval rating congress REFUSED to even allow debate an energy bill that would bring relief to Americans hurting from gas prices . . . she voted “yea”!
If you think that had him stuttering like a school boy caught in the girls’ locker room by this time, he didn’t have much to say when I informed him that at this very minute some of her colleagues are still occupying the House Chambers demanding that Nancy “San Fran Nanny” call the House back in session and do what they were voted to do . . . govern for the people and lift the sanctions on offshore drilling to relieve the financial burden on the American people! Then he was he was quieter than funeral for a mime when I stated that if my congresswoman was so supportive of “drill here – drill now”, she would be in D.C. right now supporting the demand that Nancy “San Fran Nanny” end her tin horn dictator strangle hold on domestic oil AND she would already have her name on the discharge petition ( http://clerk.house.gov/110/lrc...../Dis16.htm ) that could force Dear Leader Pelosi to bring the offshore oil drilling bill to an “up or down” vote.
In a very polite way I thanked him for his time and hung up.
My hypothesis of this little experiment reinforced the story that I read on the web page – my local congresswoman was talking “drill here – drill now” back home BUT back in Washington its whatever Dear Leader Pelosi says.
I’ve said it before and I will say it again - it’s the same old liberal leftist lying ploy . . . say what you have to say, ignore what you have to ignore, change positions when necessary, honesty is not a part of the equation . . . lie, deceive, mislead . . . JUST GET ELECTED