President Obama To Bring Back Slavery
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From President-Select Obama’s new website Change.gov:
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“Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.”
Someone should tell Mr. Obama that Mr. Lincoln freed the slaves.
While they are at it, they should also tell this Constitutional scholar that the Constitution now forbids involuntary servitude:
Amendment XIII
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
The Republican Party got rid of slavery 143 years (and a bloody Civil War) ago.
And the Democrats have been working ever since to bring it back.
Update!
It should be noted that when this “service” program was mention during the campaign it sounded quite “voluntary.”
Indeed, there was even a financial incentive promised.
From the Obama campaign site:
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“Obama and Biden will set a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year, and will establish a new tax credit that is worth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service a year.”
What a difference an election makes.
Update!
Hilariously, the Change.gov “Service” page has now been changed:
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Suddenly, all mention of “required” has been disappeared. And the college tuition incentive has been added.
Maybe this is what they mean by “change.”
Update!
As of this hour all of the individual pages where Mr. Obama listed great his plans for our future have been removed.
Except for his “Service” page, where the word “require” has been replaced with words like “encourage” — and a $4,000 college tuition incentive.
Yet the Obama campaign still claim to have these plans, and that they are ready to “rule” on day one:
The Agenda
President-Elect Obama and Vice President-Elect Biden have developed innovative approaches to challenge the status quo in Washington and to bring about the kind of change America needs.
The Obama Administration has a comprehensive and detailed agenda to carry out its policies. The principal priorities of the Obama Administratin [sic] include: a plan to revive the economy, to fix our health care, education, and social security systems, to define a clear path to energy independence, to end the war in Iraq responsibly and finish our mission in Afghanistan, and to work with our allies to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, among many other domestic and foreign policy objectives.
They just are afraid of anyone seeing them.
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Just in case anyone think Mr. Obama is not serious about this, bear in mind that his new Chief of Staff wrote a book demanding this very thing:
Amazon.com: The Plan: Big Ideas for America: Rahm Emanuel, Bruce Reed: Books
http://www.amazon.com/Plan-Big.....038;sr=1-1
Rahm Emanuel wants us to have compulsory national service just like Israel.
And for the younger crowd, let’s not forget the Spies and the Junior Anti-sex League (since 1984 is being bandied about)…
I don’t think so….
Steve, how enforceable would that be?
Unless things are radically different there than they are here, we’re hard enough pressed to get people -especially the younger crowd- to show up to their regular jobs when they’re supposed to.
Muscling seniors, gun owners, conservative bloggers and the like, is one thing -none of us would ever vote for him anyway -but pissing off America’s youth…?
yeah, let one of those smarmy bastards try to get me to do community service. I am doing the community a service by staying in my house clinging to my bible and guns.
“Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.”
Require? Require?
Is it not bad enough that we are already slave labor for four months a year via taxation?
This guy is gonna get a lot of people killed!
“Unless things are radically different there than they are here, we’re hard enough pressed to get people -especially the younger crowd- to show up to their regular jobs when they’re supposed to.”
If it’s a law, it will be enforced. I’m sure there will be some sugary incentives thrown in. (Reduced tuition, for example.)
But once they get started down this path, there is no end to it.
Remember when I said I wasnt going quietly? This may well be the litmus test for that. I simply am not going to do it. Period.
DEZ; …..”Require? Require?…..”
Sorry, Barry. I’ve already had my ticket punched. A long time ago. This time around I elect to be the “punch-er” instead of the “punch-ee”!
For that matter, sticking me in the middle of a bunch of impressionable middle schoolers wouldnt be such a great idea, because I would do them the service of telling them what a bunch of asswipes their parents are for voting the way they did. And I wouldnt stop there. but, no matter. I served my community already. It’s time they served me back. They would best do that by not asking what a “tater stick” is again.
Will we all get one of those spiffy red neckties as sported by members of the Young Communists League?
Don’t forget they want a Gestapo/KKK civilian force the size of the pentagon to keep everybody inline and things running smoothly.
Reject Obamunism.
I really wanted to comment on this atrocity of a dumb idea here but the actual words that I need to use Steve won’t let me say, this is a mixed forum after all.
Remember, if you have employees, and after the orwellian tax codes come into play, make notes on whom voted obama, and fire them when the time comes. Hell, fire them now if you need to. Justice well served I think.
When do I get my Obama youth knife?
When do I get my Obama youth knife?
out of my community organizer’s gut
Well, SG, it looks like you’ll have to change your once-a-week thingy from a bunch of busy bees to a horde of angry hornets.
And it’s their own damn fault for smacking a hive of conservatives with a stick.
Sarah Palin was wrong at the RNC… a community organizer apparently does quite a bit :)
Will this apply to people on welfare as well?
Illegals?
Minorities?
(not to mention dead people -many of whom no doubt voted for BHO 2 days ago)
I just can’t see it guys. At least, I can’t see it lasting beyond the nearest election.
“out of my community organizer’s stomach.’
Just leave it there, its already been put to good use!
sheehanjihad; …..”out of my community organizer’s stomach…..”
He asked WHEN sj, not WHERE!
Its crap like this that will bring to the forefront a conservative leader who will begin the arduous task of reclaiming this country. I see a ton of resistance to this “require” thing. It wont fly.
isn’t the point of volunteering that the fact that it’s VOLUNTARY?
“isn’t the point of volunteering that the fact that it’s VOLUNTARY?”
Not any more, and yes, its an Obamination.
BatK…ever have a gunnery sergeant come up and say, “I need three volunteers for latrine duty!”? DW! Professor! DEZ! get yer spades! You volunteered! SJ has to take a pelosi and wipe his schumer!
Well now that gives a new meaning to, I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
50 hours of community service from middle schoolers. How is he going to pry the Playstation out of their hands for 50 hours?
SJ - so glad you picked DW, the Prof and DEZ for that detail, and left the Air Force weenie alone to read his novel. (Get back to work, you guys - that hole ain’t gonna dig itself!)
Well, a big cat can cover up a lot of mess.
“50 hours of community service from middle schoolers.”
Yeah, can you imagine the quality of service that they will provide? Service with an attitude.
And this is just day two. Oh boy howdy… ain’t we got fun?
the communities wouldnt need any “volunteers” to help at all if the liberal progressives hadnt screwed up our society so bad to start with. They are demanding I do service to clean up the mess they created?!
uh, not only no, but hell no!
Do you suppose he got the idea from Farrakhan and the Rules For Radicals of Saul Alinsky?
Typical socialist agenda.
I’m also a bit leery of the government telling us what does and does not constitute “community service.”
I’m waiting breathlessly to find out more about the “Clean Energy Corps”. I envision rooms full of people on stationary bikes hooked up to generators.
I’ll rot in jail before I do one second of forced community service under this marxist agenda.
DGA, you may rot in jail when you refuse to burn incense to Emperor Obama
I envision rooms full of people on stationary bikes hooked up to generators.
Or maybe people who spy on their neighbours and report every potential wastage of energy (I believe the UK already has something along these lines).
The poor bastards on stationary bikes will be part of the re-education camps.
“I envision rooms full of people on stationary bikes hooked up to generators”
Or even “The Matrix” type of human power generation.
Wow! We could write one heck of a science fiction novel with all of this material and call it, The Obama Chronicles.
I think their loophole is the phrase “…except as a punishment for crime…”. He didn’t mention his Kangaroo Kourt Krew that will dispense speedy justice on slackers, the primary charges being ’selfishness’ and ‘racism’.
I would just like to know what kind of “service: Obama is demanding? It sounds good on paper and to the liberal parents to say they want the kids to learn good citizenship skills blah blah blah, but what will they be doing? Unless of course this whole plan isn’t service but just to provide free labor for whatever, replace the government employees who’ll be lost when the taxes are cut.
And the Windfall Profits Tax to send a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families for jump starting the economy? Aren’t these the same people who earlier this year were talking about Bush’s $600 Stimulus Checks as a waste of time? The difference is Bush wasn’t taking the money from the corporations, but it’ll be interesting how this will be spun as a must have that will save the day. Meanwhile it’ll go towards beer and Playstations.
And I’m already seeing banner ads about how he’s a “fan” of clean coal. I’ll give him this, his marketing department works fast.
Somebody stop the Planet of the Apes, I want to get off………
I guarantee my children WILL NOT BE GOING TO VOLUNTEER AT SOME CESS POOL INNER CITY CRIME RIDDEN NEIGHBORHOOD, no way no how.
I will fight this with every fiber of my being.
My children do volunteer work, but they will not be following some “government mandate” that is against the Constitution.
While your point is valid, I believe it to be based on a fasle presumption. You note that “Mr. Lincoln freed the slaves”, but you failed to note that Mr. Roosevelt and Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Johnson placed them back in bondage. While people shout to the heavens that they are “free at last”, they cannot seem to notice that they are slaves to the great massa in Washinton who, as all good slave drivers do, provides for his servants every need so long as they remain loyal and do as they are instructed. We live in an age of institutional slavery, by which government enslaves the people by making them wholely dependant upon the master, and continues to provide so long as the servants obey. That obedience includes voting and acting as instructed. Aren’t these people told that unless they vote as instructed that “someone” will take away that which is being provided them, be that welfare, social security or whatever entitlement? Slavery is alive and well, it is just acceptable so long as it serves the almighty state rather than the private enterprise. Slavery is indeed a deplorable institution, but it is even more so when it is veiled as an act of compassion.
We’ve had a pretty bad plague of flies for the last few weeks-coincidence?
What the hell is the “Office of the President-Elect”?
I’m assuming that those of us that still serve our nation in the military will have to play this game, too. I guess our sacrifices aren’t enough.
If this is suppose to be mandatory, I really don’t think it will pass the Supreme test.
1. Congress will never pass it.
2. Every citizen already has a 6 year obligation.
3. Government can not compel anyone under 15 to do anything except go to school (re: posse comitatus) and the school requirement is on the parent, not the child . So you can forget about the whole “middle-school” thing.
I say fine if EVERY SINGLE PERSON in this country gets 50 hours in learning how to use a firearm.
crosspatch, I started to write a post agreeing with you, but then thought, crap, then all the hoods would actually know how to shoot, rather than using their preferred method of holding it sideways and pulling off all the rounds in the magazine.
Lurkin: there’s more good ones than bad ones. Give EVERYONE a course in how to shoot and the hoods won’t feel so intimidating anymore knowing the person next to them can shoot just as well as they can.
Oh, and ask the public service unions how they would like having their functions being done by free “community service” labor.
This will be the new definition of “MISERABLE FAILURE.”
No person wants, or should be, the pack mule for another. Once students get their assignments, they will realize they are the only ones doing any work.
I had to do 20 hours of community service, and I did it all at the Salvation Army. Once you do that service, you will most likely become a Conservative. The textbooks give 1001 excuses for poor people, but when you get there, you see people of vice. How about the single black mother of 9! 9? 9 f*king children? Guess what? From 5 different fathers! (That she can recall). Whose fault is that? Society? (aren’t liberals part of society?) Or the woman so fat and stupid, her and her daughter live at the S.A. How about not smoking cigarettes and eating McDonalds you fat cow. How can you be so fat with no money? Ech….
This is a good chance for liberals to see how pathetic people are. Mostly, students will give a half-hearted attempt, or none at all, and sabotage the whole project. It won’t work.
If people were so happy to help out, we wouldn’t need to FORCE people into it. Obama is basically tying slavery to passing school. “You want to pass college eh? Well you better do this if you want to get a good grade and a descent job buddy!”
I think the keys to the 13th Amendment are:
1) It forbids involuntary servitude; SCOTUS will likely rule that publicly financed schools means those students are receiving remuneration in the form of their education so it’s actually work-for-hire.
2) The Amendment says Congress has the power to enforce it, not that it must.
Why do I somehow think volunteering at a church won’t count as community service but spending time at a Democrat candidate’s office will?
Yeah the libs think this will be a good thing for their children to learn civics and responsibility. Bah!
Wait till these Obama supporters who have “Peace Corps” college kids, find out they are going to be sent to 3rd world hell holes such as Kenya and Sudan to do their 100 hours of “service”. Wait till a couple of 19 year old girls are kidnapped and held for ransom in Zimbabwae. Wait till a group of Peace corps college kids are captured and killed in Indonesia by some Muslim extremists. Those are the places those kids are going to be sent to, not some cushy clean-up detail at some resort in Cancun.
Wait till they find out their middle school aged kids are not going to be doing community service in their safe suburban town one month because there is not enough to do. But a nice
crime infestedneighborhood, say Camden, or Newark in NJ, is going to be your child’s destination while the inner city youth have been given a free pass because they already live a “hard life”. Maybe their child will be one of the lucky ones to not get hit when that stray bullet flies past during some drive by shooting or some gang initiation thing.Today at work, one of my co-workers who voted for Obama came by to rub it in. I laughed and said don’t worry about me, I would start worrying about your 401K. When he asked why, I said don’t worry, you’ll find out soon enough. I also told him he better start figuring out how much it costs to rent a house in his area and figure out the difference between that and what he is paying in mortgage. Again he asked why and I said again you’ll find out soon enough. He then said I was just trying to mess with him. I said I don’t care if you think I am playing around or not, you’ll find out what is going to happen soon enough.
He didn’t have kids, otherwise I would have told him to get ready to watch his child doing free labor for the state.
Again, everybody should read Sinclair Lewis’ “It Can’t Happen Here.” Of course Lewis was a liberal, borderline socialist, deathly afraid of fascism. But his fear was justified. He was just on the wrong side of the fence.
My biggest question is how can they enforce this? It’s going to go over real well to see a bunch of middle schoolers being hauled off to gulags at the behest of Barry.
Have y’all forgotten what Obama said during the campaign? He said that he would tie the “community service” of the middle school and high school children into public school financing. It was pretty well ignored by the kneepad, fawning media when he said it, but basically, the schools will be required to make sure the little kiddies are compliant. Or no money for that school. How are you going to force hundreds of millions of kids to do his bidding?
Well, there will be those school districts that will try to enforce this “requirement” making sure the kiddies are compliant because they can’t afford to lose the federal school funding money. But there are thousands of schools like the one in my small Texas town where the principal and the school board members are bible carrying, gun toting (deer hunters) who will not say “Yes, we can” but “No you don’t”. Schools will simply refuse federal funding. Hell, our school district gets very little money from the Fed being mostly funded by our property taxes. Drop all the illegals we send to school here, and our budget will go down. We can then get rid of all those extra Spanish as a Second Language teachers, the extra trailers required for class rooms, and no have to pay for their free lunches.
A friend of my yanked her kids out of one public school because she had purchased all the things on the list at the beginning of the year for her kids to use in class (pencils, notebook paper, copy paper, kleenex, erasers, marker, well, you get the idea) and for three kids, it was not cheap. When the kids got there the first day, the teachers were ordered to take all the supplies and put them in one big pile. Then the teachers handed the supplies out as needed. The principal said it was because there were so many kids whose parents didn’t have the money to buy supplies (in central Texas that reads “illegals”) so it was only fair. That lasted one year. The next year the parents were up in arms and said that if that was the way it was going to be, they were not going to buy any supplies and would send their kids to school with just what was needed that day. The school board overruled the principal, but by that time, a lot of kids had transferred out.
If the schools start refusing to accept federal funding, how’s the Obamassiah going to enforce that “requirement” for servitude? What happens when parents start moving out of school districts that rely heavily on federal funding? The only kids left will be the ones whose parents are drunk on Obamaide to begin with.
This new President-elect has some lofting, albiet socialist, goals.
When I was a kid it was kind of a tradition that my Irish grandmother would tell people who just showed up at the house to sit down and stay a spell and they would “talk a little treason”. She was referring to the fight for Irish independence. “A revolution now and then is good for the soul” she would say.
Are we about to come into a age of a the “new” revolution?
One little piece of advise for all you gun owners: if you have them listed on your homeowners insurance, take them off. If you belong to the NRA (as I did for years) and you insure them through the NRA, don’t. Make sure there is no written record of your weapons, be they a kid’s first .22 or your deer rifle.
The results on November 4, 2008 put the Second Amendment in peril.
Word has gotten out. I’ve tried to go to the change.gov site. Under america serves all it says now is NEED CONTENT. However, SG’s link still works. I’m sure they are ironing out those little details so us right minded people won’t freak out, at least not until its too late.
New to this site and so very glad I found it. Unlike those stinking bleeding heart liberals, nobody here seems to have their head stuck up their a**.
And to sheehanjihad…you are cracking me up. I think I love you.
Ok, onto this mandatory service thing…this is just one of the many changes Obama is going to make that will screw up this country even more than it already is.
I already did my service…in uniform, in an aircraft, in some of the rottenest TDY locations imagineable! I teach and I ranch, and I honestly have NO USE for some draftee squatting in my classroom spouting the “Dear Leader’s” gas! As for when I turn 55, I don’t plan to do any more “service!” Service is VOLUNTARY…slavery is forced, and this faux American wants us all to be his damned slaves…and the idiot kids who voted for him (anyone up for raising the minimum age to vote to 40? And then denying the franchise to NY, PA, NJ, CT, DE, RI, IL, OH, IA, IN,MA, MI, NH, ME, VT, CA, VA around DC, DC, MD, NM, CO, OR, WA, HI, NC around the cities, and FL in Miami, Orlando and West Palm?)
We’d better gear up and provide some serious resistance to this fascist creep before he places his hand on a koran and officially assumes power, or this country is finished!
change.gov ????
What’s next, he will create the Department of Change?
EHV….welcome to you! We do not suffer from cranial rectal inversion here, not at all. You are in good company, and as for being in love with me……awwwwwww shucks. (as long as you are female) (or I will have to go vote on prop 8 in californicate). WE are America here. This is one of the few places where you can get the actual truth on a daily basis. Ok, I have to go report to my community service administrator now….he’s banging up the inside of my trunk again.
Hey SJ,
Don’t forget to take along your Obama youth knife!
retire05; …..”Make sure there is no written record of your weapons…..”
For anyone who thinks there is nothing wrong with REASONABLE restrictions on gun ownership, ask yourself this question. Why do you suppose there is such a push to require transactions at gun shows and between private individuals be subject to the NICS check?
And do you REALLY believe there is no electronic record being kept of those background checks? Remember, if the hard drive isn’t completely destroyed, the info is retrievable.
……”from my cold, dead hands”….
sheehan…yup, I’m a female, so no need to worry. :O)
JohnMG, all my guns were purchased a long, long time ago. I quit insuring them through the NRA 20 years ago. Obama’s storm troopers can’t come get what they don’t know I have. And if it comes to that point, I won’t be the only one aiming at them.
I think I’ve finally found the most compelling reason imaginable to brush up on my math and science and take the little darlings out of a public school system I already despise. Compared to Obama’s plan to make slaves of us all, Hillary seems like a veritable goddess of reason. Already the schools teach these children nothing, now they’re going to waste even more time by making them go clean up after such people as Peggy the Moocher?
As I’ve been telling the Obamaniacs around here since Tuesday, you should have been more careful what you wished for.
It will be interesting to see what happens when all of the people who were expecting to get something for nothing all of a sudden wake up and realize that it’s the other way around…
Posters here are questioning how could this socialist program of compulsory public service even be enforced (and in the case of attention deficit challenged youth- supervised).
Why, call in the National Civilian Security Force (NCSF)! (Catchy martial music here to goose-step to)
The NCSF is the ultimate community organization!
I’m betting that will be a big priority for the new Chairman President to get started (because he is to really going need it) – and he already has the framework laid with his Acorn gang and campaign team – plenty of future grueppenfuehrers there.
I’m sure there will be a National Civilian Workforce arm, a National Public Services Arm for public development and political reinforcement to the population (these agents for progress will help our comrades in their public service duties), an Armed Internal Security Force and of course a NCSF Personal Protection Detail of hand -picked members of the NCSF to provide “additional” security (and muscle) to loyal party leaders. Big question here will be, do they go with the thugs in bowtie outfits or the black fatigues and red berets….ok for the monitors of the National Public Services, aprons and cattle prods…
And why not a legion of Commissars “public policy mediators” to monitor and enforce carbon emission policy, report cases of newly defined extremism, investigate excesses of public baselines for wealth and consumption, confiscate from those that are not able to keep up on their patriotic tax obligations and on and on. They would be like the auxillary to the FBI on steroids and at each level of office out rank their FBI counter-part even though they hold the same supervisory rank.
Retire05 is right, Obama will evade his campaign claims that he firmly believes in our second amendment rights by having his willing liberal administration cave to the UN at the first opportunity that International Gun Control comes up for a declaration in the UN (See John Bolton’s book “Surrender is not an Option” for a better narrative of the maneuvers at the UN over this issue in the recent past). The intent of the UN declaration is partly aimed at domestic US gun control issues. So as our new government drastically reduces, if not eliminates our second amendment rights, all under the imperative of complying with the will of the “international community”, a National Civilian Security Force would be exceptional useful in controlling State Government entities (particularly those that have promised dissention and threatened succession) and tracking and collecting firearms from private citizens. If extreme liberal policies are unpalatable and unpopular, the police and military may not be so reliable in implementation. Send a nice young NCSF member to serve you notice of your responsibility under the new law to disarm and then send the Police or armed NCSF when the “criminal” refuses.
Para-military and “peoples” security forces are useful for community organizers in dictatorial or extreme socialist states – at least before the purges are done or the military co-opted (not going to easily happen in our forces today, thankfully). And this organization is going to rival the DOD for size and budget? That is some “Force”!
Wait till we sign up to the ICC (International Criminal Court) and are challenged to turn-over military and civilian leaders for international trials based on charges filed by hostile foreign governments. Again, better to have your own “Brown shirts” to round up the usual suspects, and keep the police and other agencies, marginally on side with your government. What a motivator for those military brass who aren’t team players - hint that they could be spared the ICC if they play ball.
And, like Smoking Joe Biden said – we may not understand why the new government reacts to that promised future crisis – and we the people may balk at curfews, prohibition to gather/demonstrate, martial law, suspension of means of free communication and speech, further taxation without representation, subjugation of national sovereignty on issues/policy and law to external organizations or whatever other REAL suspension of liberties they may feel compelled to enforce for the “greater good”.
How does the Obama administration handle a population that does not willingly change to his socialist vision?
How does he deal with all those individuals in the military and local/Federal service that swore to protect the public and the US constitution?
How does he persuade those citizens that disagree to get with the program, to join the party, to move forward and change???
The National Civilian Security Force will set you free!
You are not paranoid if they really are out to get you.
I envision a scene from the movie, Pirates of the Caribbean:At Worlds End…….”MORE STEAM”
Of course it is only fair. After all, Obama put in his time in selfless “public service.”
He helped ACORN/Project Vote get out the vote for Carol Mosely Braun.
Of course ACORN did the same thing for Obama in the very next elections — and every election thereafter.
But working for 501c3 “charities” like ACORN and La Raza is surely what this is going to boil down to. Giving the DNC more footsoldiers.
Whoa! You guys won’t believe this. Last night I dreamed we elected a marxist agitator for President. I gotta lay off the port.
I can’t believe I’m even reading this website right. This scares the hell out of me for my family.
This is the first opportunity to resist without violence. Just say “NO”. A population that does not follow like sheep cannot be successfully herded to the slaughter. He can intimidate hundreds, but not millions. It starts with you. US. We are America! Do not comply to what you dont believe in.
Kilmeny…don’t wait to brush up on anything -take the kids out of the indoctrination factory (public school) and homeschool now. We let our older two remain in high school but it was really a lot of work to overcome the indoctrination. But thanks to hubby making both of them get jobs in high school, the taxes out portion of their paychecks resulted in a come to Jesus moment for them. All Daddy said when they complained about the amount taken out was “welcome to the Republican party sweethart!” The younger ones will never see the inside of the factory!