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Obama: Honduran ‘Coup’ Is Not Legal

From the (great) cartoonist Michael Ramirez at the Investors Business Daily and the (not so great) Associated Press:

Leaders from Obama to Chavez blast Honduras coup

By Will Weissert And Freddy Cuevas, Associated Press Writers

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras – Police and soldiers clashed with thousands of protesters outside Honduras’ national palace Monday, leaving at least 45 people injured, as world leaders from Barack Obama to Hugo Chavez demanded the return of a president ousted in a military coup…

Across Latin America, leftist leaders pulled their ambassadors from Honduras and Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega said El Salvador, Nicaragua and Guatemala would cut trade with neighboring Honduras for at least 48 hours. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez called for Hondurans to rise up against those who toppled his ally.

"We’re ready to support the rebellion of the Honduran people," Chavez said. He later vowed to halt Venezuelan oil shipments to Honduras and called for its soldiers to rise up against "that tyrannical, puppet government." …

In Washington, Obama said the United States will "stand on the side of democracy" and work with other nations and international groups to resolve the matter peacefully.

"We believe that the coup was not legal and that President Zelaya remains the democratically elected president there," Obama said.

"It would be a terrible precedent if we start moving backwards into the era in which we are seeing military coups as a means of political transition rather than democratic elections," he added. "The region has made enormous progress over the last 20 years in establishing democratic traditions. … We don’t want to go back to a dark past."

Honduras’ new government, however, was defiant. Roberto Micheletti, named by Congress to serve out the final seven months of Zelaya’s term, vowed to ignore foreign pressure and began naming Cabinet members, including a new minister of defense.

"We respect everybody and we ask only that they respect us and leave us in peace because the country is headed toward free and transparent general elections in November," Micheletti told HRN radio.

He insisted Zelaya’s ouster was legal and accused the former president himself of violating the constitution by sponsoring a referendum that was outlawed by the Supreme Court. Many saw the foiled vote as a step toward eliminating barriers to his re-election, as other Latin American leaders have done in recent years…

Venezuela’s Chavez told the gathered leaders that "it’s the moment to act" to restore Zelaya. "I’ll do everything possible to overthrow this gorilla government of Honduras. It must be overthrown," the socialist leader said.

While Obama said Zelaya is still president, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton hedged on that point at an earlier news conference, suggesting that both the ousted president and his foes should make compromises.

Asked if the administration would insist that Zelaya be restored to power, she said: "We haven’t laid out any demands that we’re insisting on, because we’re working with others on behalf of our ultimate objectives." …

Mr. Obama has been wrong at every foreign policy call since the campaign. The Russian invasion of Georgia. The stolen Iranian elections.

And now this, the Honduran courts and military putting down Mr. Zalaya’s attempted coup and destruction of its constitution.

Who is surprised to see Mr. Obama on the wrong side of history again?

Even Mrs. Clinton is sounding more sensible. (After having made a fool of herself in her own right, of course.)

It’s almost as if Mr. Obama was misrepresented to us during the campaign.

This article was posted by Steve on Tuesday, June 30th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

16 Responses to “Obama: Honduran ‘Coup’ Is Not Legal”

  1. Rusty Shackleford says:

    [From the Associated Press:]

    Obama: Ouster of Honduras President Was an Illegal Coup

    “It would be a terrible precedent if we start moving backwards into the era in which we are seeing military coups as a means of political transition rather than democratic elections,” Obama said in the Oval Office…

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/29/clinton-unrest-honduras-evolved-coup/

    Well, I have no questions.

    It’s not like it’s some sort of shock to hear him say that, but is is rather interesting that he comes out of his political closet so quickly this time.

    Thugs side with other thugs…and he has aligned himself perfectly with El Guapo (Chavez)

    And…..What was that about “meddling” again?

    The One said: “The United States, he said, will work (with) the Organization of American States and other bodies to try to resolve the conflict peacefully. ”

    Oh, Okay then. I thought I heard you say something about “meddling”. Perhaps you can offer them nukes in order to help them out?

    • Petronius says:

      Good post as usual, Rusty. I was just trying to reconcile Nerobama’s statements that you and SG quoted (above) with his statements made earlier this month at Cairo University:

      “The fourth issue that I will address is democracy. I know there has been controversy about the promotion of democracy in recent years, and much of this controversy is connected to the war in Iraq. So let me be clear: no system of government can or should be imposed upon one nation by any other. … America does not presume to know what is best for everyone, just as we would not presume to pick the outcome of a peaceful election.”

      So let me see if I’ve got this right? When Bush removes the dictator in Iraq and imposes democracy, that is bad. When Nerobama seeks to return a dictator to power in Honduras, that is good––because at some point in the past the dictator was elected, and America should always “stand on the side of democracy,” and consequently “we” should impose democracy on Honduras by restoring the dictator to power.

      Pardon me if I’m a bit confused.

  2. DGA says:

    Huge protest about a stolen election in Iran, and the people being killed and locked up for trying to correct a corrupt govt. election, and obama hesitates to say anything. Takes him days to finally speak up at all.
    Yet a despot leader in Honduras gets tossed out for trying to change their constitution, and obama has a real problem with it and speaks up right away, and of course, sides with the despot.
    This country has elected a despot, dictator wannabe if he could be. It’s scary to think this control freak is trying to turn this country into a banana republic. Still though, maybe then we could just oust him like so many south american thrid world s**tholes.

  3. canary says:

    “We believe that the coup was not legal and that President Zelaya remains the democratically elected president there,” Obama said.

    How dare Sobama say “we”, instead of “I”. I’m sick of him saying he only represents those that voted for him, and not all Americans, and sick of him apologizing in the name of “we”. Someone help us! Please save us from this dictator who can’t be trusted.

  4. Wamp says:

    This is exactly why we have the 2nd Amendment. When those in power act unreas….no, go lunatic, and try to wrest power from the people, then we get our guns.

    Probably a good idea to study the Honduran model?

  5. wardmama4 says:

    Wamp – don’t say that too loud or watch out NOBama’ Thugs Anti-Violence Czars will be coming to confiscate them – to insure that he remains el Presidente for Life.

    I have to wonder if/when that repeal the 22nd Amendment will be snuck in at 3AM into some bill guaran-damn-teed to pass. We need to watch for it – the Klownposse in DC is out-of-control and I see them taking away all of our Rights before the Nov 2010 elections – to insure that there is a ONE Party Tyranny installed into America.

    They are moving closer and closer each and every day. No wonder NoBama was so quick to stand with his peeps.

    God Help America.

  6. 12 Gauge Rage says:

    I don’t know which I find more amusing. The political cartoon, or the photo of our ‘enlightened one’ standing behind a podium with the words ‘The Judgment to Lead.’ Shouldn’t it be worded : The Lack of Judgment to Properly Lead?’ This is his window of opportunity to display leadership in a crisis, as Biden predicted. But so far I’m not impressed.

    wardmamma4, I wouldn’t consider it a matter of speculation about the Violence Czars and Mizz Nepolitano’s Homeland Security Goons keeping an eye on us. I’m sure they’re already monitoring our activities on this site and taking note of who among us are just venting, and others whose choice of specific words are raising red flags.

    Just out of gee whiz, I went to the local Wal-Mart the other day and saw bountiful amounts of small hand gun ammo. Mostly it was .44, .45, and 9mm. It was the most I’d seen in a long time and I thought that maybe the public at large was finally getting over their fears that Obama and his thugs were going to grab their guns. Nope. The next day it was all gone. Every single box. The Second Amendment is still alive and well and giving many a corrupt politician a restless night of sleep.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      You consider .44 and .45 cal. “small gun” ammo?

    • untrainable says:

      “…they’re already monitoring our activities on this site and taking note of who among us are just venting, and others whose choice of specific words are raising red flags.”

      What makes you think they’re going to make any distinctions between ventors and anyone else? When the time comes, you know… some crazy emergency manufactured by the administration in the wee hours of the morning that will necessitate a clamp down on the people “for our safety”, they’re going to try to crush us all like bugs. Our “freedom of speech” will be gone, and 1984’s thought police will become a reality in the form of blog reading Obamatons.

      The King will not suffer our freedom as it will only serve to get in his way. No distinctions will be made.

  7. Liberals Demise says:

    Note to Barry the Bungler:

    You, too, are trampling on our Constitution and Bill of Rights! This is what happens when those in power usurp the office they are suppose to hold for the people and not their own agendas!
    HEADS UP, BoBo!!!!

  8. bronzeprofessor says:

    The press is in denial about Latin America’s sudden rejection of the Chavez Left. Look how Time tries to blame Bush for conservative victories in the Argentina’s midterm elections, just days after Honduras’ Chavez clone canned.

    From Time:

    Argentina Poll: Kirchner Loss a Lesson for Latin America
    by Tim Padgett, June 30, 2009

    FernÁndez, like her husband and their left-wing ally Hugo ChÁvez of Venezuela, is a combative populist who critics say is too dismissive of the legislative and judicial branches, which are still weak institutions in Latin America. Her Sunday setback “indicates that Latin America’s hyperpresidentialist project, which was fueled by the economic boom, faces walls and obstacles now,” says Javier Corrales, a Latin America expert who teaches political science at Amherst College in Massachusetts. Another factor is the exit of U.S. President George W. Bush, whose own bid for excessive presidential power wasn’t exactly seen by Latin Americans as a model of democratic checks and balances. Today, the more collegial Obama presidency makes hyperpresidencies look less seemly. (See pictures of Barack Obama’s family tree.)

    Corrales is quick to note that the region’s trend toward “superpresidencies,” which includes conservative leaders like Colombian President Alvaro Uribe, “is far from over.” But FernÁndez – who does little to discourage comparisons to Eva PerÓn, the glamorous and powerful Argentine First Lady of the 1940s and ’50s known as “Evita” – has had her clout both at home and abroad diminished to the point that Argentine pundits are even discussing whether she might soon resign. While that’s unlikely, the rest of her term promises to be a slog, and her husband’s widely discussed plans to run for President again in 2011 suddenly seem a long shot. (Read: “Little Eva.”)

    Note the quote from “Corrales,” who apparently can make ridiculous analogies in favor of Obama, in the total absence of clear logical proof, because he teaches at Amherst and his last name is Spanish. This is why I think people should have their PhDs taken away when they engage in shamefaced political agitprop and use their degree as cover.

    Quick factual note: The president of Colombia has no family resemblance to the Chavez pandilla, which includes Ortega, Castro, Morales, Correa, Bachelet, Kirchner, Silva, and Fernandez. Superpresidencies in Latin America are a LEFTIST phenomenon and they support the policies of Obama, generally. What happened in Honduras and Argentina shows that Latin America, like Europe, might like Obama personally but they do not want necessarily to be part of his political movement.

  9. MinnesotaRush says:

    “We believe that the coup was not legal … ,” Obama said.”

    Try this headline ..

    “Most all thinking Americans believe o-blah-blah not legal and behaving illegally”

  10. VMAN says:

    Come on guys thugs will be thugs. It’s probably just a phase they’re going through.

  11. Wamp says:

    Well, now that my homestate bozos have put a failed comedian in the Senate, and the magical 60 votes are a reality, they can at least put a ‘funny’ (looking) face on their thuggery.

  12. wardmama4 says:

    The problem is that the whole point is moot – this was not a coup. It was a tyrant attempting to ignore the Constitution and stay in power who was (legally) removed from his illegal attempt – no one was killed, no riots (Iran) in the streets and according to a missionary in Honduras – 90% of the people were against this thug remaining in power.

    Of course The One ™ is for it – I truly believe that he thinks with his ‘brains,’ ‘intelligence,’ ‘education’ and of course his ‘popularity’ He will be The One to lead the AU – or even the World into the future.

    Push your State Gov, Representatives, & Senators to Repeal the 16th Amendment. Go for it from this point – As the Founders Intended – Taxation and Spending would be Local, States Rights (maybe add in that it means we won’t ever have to worry about bailing out CA).

    To the Klownposse in DC and The One ™ MONEY is POWER and they want is all the POWER (& MONEY) they can get. It will be faster & more poignant than attempting to throw out all of them (535, big, maybe too big) in 2010. Besides my Rep is a freshman and votes 90% along the Dem Party line – and probably is as corrupt (or on his way) as the rest of them – look at the ‘freshman’ we got enscounced in the WH – he didn’t even finish his first term. All we need is 32 States. It is do-able. And must be considered before they destroy any more Freedoms and Rights in America.

    Or install – which was just posted just the other day – Repeal the 22nd Amendment and Obama run a third time – (HJ 5). Already Time Magazine has jumped on it – ‘TIME Magazine’s Mark Halperin on his blog at TIME Magazine already . . . on the potential for President Obama to serve beyond 2016, and the headline at TIME Magazine: “The Nightmare or the Dream?”‘.

    Be afraid, very afraid. You know as well as I do – once a talking point is introduced, it becomes fact to the stupid masses. We have met the enemy and he is Obama.

    God help America.

  13. HCCanada says:

    It’s not a “military” coup in Honduras. Manuel Zelaya was lawfully removed as discharged by the operation of the Constitution itself for treason, for usurpation of the functions of another branch of government, for attempting to forcibly change the form of government, and for contempt of the Supreme Court when he was ordered to stop.

    Mr. Zelaya did not like the Constitution he swore to uphold. He tried to change it to give himself dictatorial powers. Supporters of Zelaya are a naive MINORITY attempting to overthrow the true democratic rule of the Constitutional MAJORITY of Honduras, who approve the order of the Supreme Court to remove Zelaya.

    Honduras has a real, functioning, Constitutional democracy which is a threat to arbitrary rule of people like Obama, Stephen Harper and others who would like to eliminate sovereign constitutions and replace them with a communistic continental parliament, linking up UNASUR (South American Union), North American Union (Canada-US-Mexico) with Central America via CAFTA.

    The defamatory attacks on Honduras by the G8, the UN, the OAS, the world press and media (controlled and owned by the same elite pushing for continental union, hemispheric union, and a world government) are all intended to crush Honduras and destroy its true and lawful Constitutional democracy.

    For details on the true constitutional position in Honduras, please visit:

    http://honduras-not-a-military-coup.blogspot.com/

    Kathleen Moore
    HABEAS CORPUS CANADA
    The Official Legal Challenge
    To North American Union
    http://www.habeascorpuscanada.com
    MY OWN VIDEOS: http://hccvideocatalog.blogspot.com


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