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Reader Selected News, Week Jan 19 – Jan 25

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This article was posted by Steve on Friday, January 18th, 2013. Comments are currently closed.

20 Responses to “Reader Selected News, Week Jan 19 – Jan 25”

  1. DW says:

    Here’s a blast from the past for long-time S&L readers.
    From Reuters (via CNEWS):

    Ex-New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin charged with corruption
    By Kathy Finn, Reuters

    NEW ORLEANS – A federal grand jury on Friday charged Ray Nagin, the former New Orleans mayor who denounced the federal government response to Hurricane Katrina, with 21 counts of public corruption over dealings with city vendors after the disaster.

    The charges followed months of investigation by federal prosecutors, who reached agreements with several former associates of Nagin to provide evidence against him.

    Nagin, who served as mayor from 2002-2010, stirred national controversy after the powerful hurricane broke local flood walls and inundated most of the city in 2005, killing some 1,500 people and wrecking tens of thousands of homes.

    In the immediate aftermath of the storm, Nagin told federal officials to “get off your asses” as thousands of people who had been forced from their homes waited for help.

    Nagin’s attorney, Robert Jenkins, could not immediately be reached to comment on the charges, which stem from Nagin’s dealings with companies providing services to the city.

    The 21 counts include allegations of bribery including receiving kickbacks for city contracts, wire fraud, money laundering and filing false tax returns.

    Full article:http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2013/01/18/20507786.html

    Mr. Nagin’s shenanigans were thoroughly documented by Steve in the early days of this site and they made for entertaining -if maddening- reading. It’s nice to see they finally caught up to him.

  2. amber says:

    Sooo, for everyone who forgot about the American Community Survey, I was selected to fill it out again. This, apparently, is required, by law, that I answer every question and failure to answer results in up to a $5000 fine. Also, the only questions they are barred from asking are questions about religion. So, here are a few of my favorite questions:
    How well does this person living in your home speak English? Very well, well, Not well, Not at all

    Is this person covered by health insurance? then it goes on to list ever kind of insure and you are supposed to check the appropriate boxes

    Because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition, does this person have difficulty concentrating, remembering, or making decisions?

    How many times has this person been married?

    What year did this person last get married?

    What is this person’s service-connected disability rating? it lists percent ranges

    What location did this person work at last week? give the address, city, state

    What time did this person usually leave home to work LAST WEEK? state hour and minutes am / pm

    Who does this person work for?

    What was their income last year? including all retirement. SSI, alimony, child support (separate boxes for each amount)

    What is the highest degree or level of school this person completed?

    I remember answering this in 2010 and it looks like they have added quite a bit more. Apparently they can ask how often I ovulate, has person 2 ever had an STD, do you own any guns and name which ones (they already ask what kinds of computer equipment I have and where I get service from.

    They can sue me. This is wrong and I will not answer.

    • Curiosity says:

      That’s pretty appalling. They must want that gun database badly (not to mention self-documented Obamacare violations).

      Wikipedia claims no one has ever been actually cited, and they provide possible legal outs (though, a lawyer would certainly cost you more than eating the fine)

      Though, maybe they just want to make sure you get your Obamaphone and on other ‘benefits’ and add you to their expected voter lists

  3. Rusty Shackleford says:

    I want you to think about the Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin issue while you read this:

    Woman Brutally Stabbed Inside Bed Bath & Beyond Store In N.J.

    MIDDLETOWN, N.J. (CBSNewYork) — Police are investigating after a woman was attacked and stabbed multiple times inside a New Jersey store Thursday afternoon.

    The victim, identified by her family as 29-year-old Kerri Dalton of Keansburg, also had a baby with her inside the Middletown Bed Bath & Beyond store, when the attack occurred.

    The alleged assailant, 19-year-old Tyrik Haynes, is accused of repeatedly plunging a knife into Dalton around 4 p.m., puncturing both her lungs in an apparent random attack.

    A published report indicated that Haynes is being held on $1 million bail on an attempted murder charge.

    Dalton was stabbed more than a dozen times and Medevaced to Jersey Shore Medical Center, where she remained in stable condition late Thursday night.

    The baby was unhurt and was with family, Young reported.

    The manager of the Staples store next door to the scene said she saw the assailant moments before the attack lurking about on the sidewalk.

    Now, have a look at Kerri Dalton: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/17/woman-brutally-stabbed-inside-bed-bath-beyond-store-in-nj/#.UPjX3b2gA24.twitter

    Then, have a look at Mr Tyrik Haynes: http://middletown-nj.patch.com/articles/middletown-man-charged-with-attempted-murder-in-stabbing-at-bed-bath-beyond

    So, where is the outrage? Obviously a black on white crime…assault with a deadly weapon and attempted murder. At least he’s been charged but where’s Al Sharpton and that prick Jackson? Why are they silent? Is it that black on white crime doesn’t exist? Is it that all the black lads “are good boys” like their mommas say? I mean, after all the Zimmerman fuss, I should think they’d be wanting to protect poor little Tyrik, who’s not doing anything wrong. I’m pretty sure that the pretty white girl is to blame here. I mean, what with being all white and everything.

    Truth be told, Mr Haynes looks like your typical drug-addled gangland nobody who has fried what feeble mind he started with and should be put on a slowly sinking raft 1,000 miles from land with a bag of knives tied around his legs. Give him time to think about his actions and make peace with his demise.

    So many drooling mouth-breathers. So many of them who need more federal money so they can live the lives they’re entitled to. Wonder if he called his homers (is that it?) and told them of his “messin’ up some white b*tch” like the rap artists tell him to. And where’s the outcry about knives? Clearly it was the knife’s fault since no black kid would ever do such a thing on his own. If knives were illegal, he never would’ve been able to get one, right? Problem solved.

  4. canary says:

    Reuters: Foreigners still trapped in Sahara hostage crisis

    By Lamine Chikhi & Abdelaziz Boumzar Jan 18 2013

    ALGIERS/IN AMENAS, Algeria (Reuters) –

    The standoff between the Algerian army and al Qaeda-linked gunmen – one of the biggest international hostage crises in decades – entered its fourth day, having thrust Saharan militancy to the top of the global agenda.

    Reports put the number of hostages killed at between 12 to 30, with possibly dozens of foreigners still unaccounted for – among them Norwegians, Japanese, Britons, Americans and others.

    Scores of Westerners and hundreds of Algerian workers were inside the heavily fortified compound when it was seized before dawn on Wednesday by Islamist fighters who said they wanted a halt to a French military operation in neighboring Mali.

    Hundreds escaped on Thursday when the army launched an operation, but many hostages were killed in the assault.

    Algerian forces destroyed four trucks holding hostages, according to the family of a Northern Irish engineer who escaped from a fifth truck and survived.

    (Additional reporting by Ali Abdelatti in Cairo, Eamonn Mallie in Belfast, Gwladys Fouche in Oslo, Mohammed Abbas in London and Padraic Halpin and Conor Humphries in Dublin; Writing by Philippa Fletcher and Peter Graff; Editing by Andrew Roche and Tom Pfeiffer)

  5. canary says:

    SkyNews: Anxiety grows over hostage raid in Algeria
    January 18, 2013

    According to his brother, Stephen McFaul fled when the convoy in which he was travelling[sic] came under fire from the army, and had earlier ‘had explosives tied around his neck’.

    British Prime Minister David Cameron, who cancelled a key speech on European policy to monitor the crisis, described a ‘very bad situation’ at the site near Algeria’s border with Libya.

    The site is run by British oil giant BP, Norway’s Statoil and Algerian energy firm Sonatrach.

    The chief hostage-taker on the ground, Abu al-Baraa, was reported killed in the Algerian operation by ANI, which often carries reliable reports from al-Qaeda linked groups.

    ‘We demand the Algerian army pull out from the area to allow negotiations,’ Abu al-Baraa had earlier told Aljazeera news channel.


    Veteran Mokhtar Belmokhtar, one-eyed Algerian jihadist with al-Qaeda ties,.., dubbed ‘The Uncatchable’… and ‘Mister Marlboro’…a former Al-Qaeda member of Maghreb now leads the
    ‘Signatories in Blood’ gang.

    Is Abu al-Baraa is dead or did he catch a ride after his interview.

  6. canary says:

    The “Maghreb” Al-Qaeda group Mokhtar Belmokhtar belongs to is the same group responsible for the U.S. Embassay Bengazi attack and most likely the following attacks. I’m guessing the two terrorists Al-Qaeda wants released are the same two Al-Qaeda asked for before the Benghazi attack in which a former Gitmo prisoner terrorists was released in Libya.

    And then the terrorist being held for Bengzahi was freed before all the later attacks.

    FoxNews: Islamic militants in Algeria reportedly offer trade: 2 US hostages for terrorists jailed in US

    Jan 19 2013

    Islamic militants have reportedly offered to trade two American hostages for terror figures jailed in the United States, as a violent siege continues at a gas plant in Algeria. A Mauritanian news site that often reports news from North African extremists received a statement about the offer Friday.

    An American from Texas remains missing after an Algerian military raid on the terror group reportedly ended the hostage standoff at the remote gas plant in the Saharan Desert.

    Two Americans escaped unharmed Thursday, a senior U.S. defense officials told Fox News, and five other Americans who had been at the vast Ain Amenas complex were able to avoid being taken captive when the terrorists first attacked early Wednesday.

    The Associated Press reports at least six people, and perhaps many more, were killed — Britons, Filipinos and Algerians — in the Algerians special forces’ rescue mission. Dozens more remained unaccounted for, including Britons, French, Norwegians, Romanians, Malaysians, Japanese, Algerians, at least one American and the fighters themselves.

    Algeria’s official news service, meanwhile, earlier claimed that 600 local workers were freed in the raid and half of the foreigners being held were rescued.

    The kidnapping is one of the largest ever attempted by a militant group in North Africa. The militants phoned a Mauritanian news outlet to demand that France end its intervention in neighboring Mali to ensure the safety of the hostages in the isolated plant, located 800 miles south of the capital of Algiers.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01/18/us-france-reportedly-in-talks-with-algeria-over-hostage-standoff/#ixzz2IP0EaeFx

    CNN: Gunmen open fire on Italian consul’s car in Benghazi

    By Jomana Karadsheh Jan 13 2012

    Tripoli, Libya (CNN) — Gunmen targeted the car of the Italian consul general in Benghazi, Libya, on Saturday as he was leaving the consulate, the latest in a series of attacks targeting foreign missions and security officials in the eastern city.

    Libyan police arrived immediately to secure the scene, said de Sanctis, who was unsure of who was behind the attack.

    “It is difficult to make conclusions … but if you look at the past months, some people are trying to send all the foreigners away,” he said. “The British, the Red Cross and unfortunately the Americans — now us?

    I was not sure we were on the list. I did not expect it at all.”

    Italy’s Foreign Minister Giulio Terzi called the attack “a vile act of terrorism,” and said Sunday it was “an attempt to destabilize the institutions of the new Libya.”

    Benghazi has been shaken by such attacks in recent months.

    Tunisia frees man held in Benghazi attack……..


    Lone suspect behind Benghazi attack is freed in Tunisia


    “The reporting showed, for example, that Ansar al Sharia was suspected in two previous attacks at the Benghazi consulate, and that an affiliate was involved in an attack two days later (Sept. 13) on the U.S. embassy in Tunisia and an American school that resulted in four Tunisian deaths, Rogers said.”


    Ex-Gitmo prisoner in Libya terror attack



    This is a wake up call not to disarm U.S. citizens, as this could easily happen in the US.

    This hostage situation could happen right here in the US.

    While, that news put gun owners in danger posting their addresses, the addresses that don’t show they have guns are really in danger.

    At least wait til the Arab spring is over and troops are home.

  7. canary says:

    Reuters: Former New Orleans mayor Nagin charged with corruption

    By Kathy Finn – Jan 18 2013

    NEW ORLEANS – A federal grand jury on Friday charged Ray Nagin, the former New Orleans mayor who denounced the federal government response to Hurricane Katrina, with 21 counts of public corruption including receiving thousands of dollars in kickbacks for city services.

    “This is, if true, a betrayal of the public trust that really started before Katrina,” said Rafael Goyeneche, president of the Metropolitan Crime Commission Inc, a non-profit organization dedicated to fighting corruption in Louisiana.

    When asked by reporters if the unnamed public official was Nagin, Fradella’s lawyer Randall Smith repeatedly said: “If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it’s probably a duck.”

    The Nagin indictment names Williams, Fradella, Bennett, Meffert and St. Pierre, as co-conspirators in defrauding the city. Meffert, who was also a business associate of St. Pierre, is alleged to have paid lodging and vacation expenses for Nagin and his family in Hawaii in order to help steer business to St. Pierre’s company.

    St. Pierre is alleged to have paid for first-class airfare for the Nagin family to Jamaica.

    In a speech on Martin Luther King Jr. Day in 2006, Nagin, who is black, said: “It’s time for us to rebuild … a chocolate New Orleans,” adding that “This city will be a majority African-American city. It’s the way God wants it to be.”

    Nagin sold his home in the Gentilly neighborhood of New Orleans last year and now lives in Frisco, Texas.

    (Reporting by Kathy Finn; Editing by Greg McCune, Andrew Hay and David Gregorio)

    They knew the levees were weak for sometime and did nothing.

    • yadayada says:

      but jessie jackson said that President Bush personally placed explosives in those levees, and blew them up to cause the massive flooding in N.O.
      so which shold I picture in my mind in order to make a rational intelligent decision/

      G.W.Bush; shovel in hand, next to a large (cartoon) wooden keg of TNT, digging big hole in side of a levee in the dark of night during raging hurricane?

      Nagin: commandeering emergency rescue vehicle to retrieve $50k in cash from freezer?

      if I was a low info type I’d be bettin’ dem secritt service dudes was pissed dat night standin’ in da rain like dat !!!

    • canary says:

      Arnold informed and requested the federal govt they need their 100 year old levees are weaking weakening and to pay to fix them as if it’s their job.

      I guess California has so many laws they can’t fix the levees themselves because a fish might be killed or a strand of seaweed might be disturbed. Go figure.

  8. captstubby says:

    Inauguration Poster Likens Obama to Jesus

    Jan 20, 2013
    By Todd Starnes

    Street vendors and souvenir stores across Washington, D.C. are selling posters depicting President Obama as Jesus Christ — and one national news publication called him the “Second Coming.”

    The poster, which does not have the official endorsement of the White House, features an image of the president in prayer with the headline, “Prophecy Fulfilled.”
    “Barak is of Hebrew origin and its meaning is ‘flash of lightning,” the poster notes, referencing a passage in in the Old Testament book of Judges.

    Hussein, they allege, is a Biblical word meaning “good and handsome.”

    “So you see, Barak was destined to be a good and handsome man that would rise like a flash of lightning to win victory in a battle against overwhelming odds,” the poster read.

    This week’s cover of Newsweek depicts President Obama as the “Second Coming” – a biblical reference to the return of Christ.

    It’s not the first time that Obama has been deified by his supporters.

    Actor Jamie Foxx called President Obama “our Lord and Savior” during a recent television appearance.

    “It’s like church over here,” Foxx told the audience. “First of all, give an honor to God and our Lord and Savior Barack Obama.”

    “Barack Obama,” he shouted as the audience cheered.

    Florida A&M professor Barbara Thompson published a book titled “The Gospel According to Apostle Barack.” The book likens Obama to Jesus Christ and Martin Luther King, Jr.
    “I learned that Jesus walked the earth to create a more civilized society, Martin (Luther King) walked the earth to create a more justified society, but, Apostle Barack, the name he was called in my dreams, would walk the earth to create a more equalized society, for the middle class and working poor,” she wrote in an excerpt published by The Daily Caller. “Apostle Barack, the next young leader with a new cause, had been taken to the mountaintop and allowed to see over the other side.”

    A controversial painting of President Obama, posed as Jesus Christ on the cross, was part of an art exhibit at Bunker Hill Community College in Boston.

    Photo by Art & Response
    The Michael D’Antuono painting is called “The Truth” — and features the president with his arms stretched out — wearing a crown of thorns.

    The original debut of the painting four years ago was cancelled due to public outrage, Design & Trend reported.

    At the time D’Antuono told Air America that he didn’t mean to “disrespect people’s religion. It’s meant as a political piece.”

    And at the Democratic National Convention street vendors were selling an array of products including a prayer garment embroidered with President Obama’s name — along with a calendar that declared him “heaven sent.”

    The entry also included a photograph of Obama along with a passage of Scripture from the New Testament.

    “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life,” the entry read — referencing John 3:16.

    The month of November includes an image of individuals with their hands on Obama’s back — with the words “The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want.”

    i am speechless because i have a little throw up in my mouth.

  9. yadayada says:


    if there ever is a video clip of one of his speeches displayed in the temple……….

  10. canary says:

    Anger against Sharia Law enforcers taking over UK streets videos being taken down

    The Sunday Times: Sharia patrols snatch drinks from passers-by

    By Dipesh Gadher – Jan 20 2013

    ISLAMIC extremists have launched vigilante patrols in London to enforce sharia by confiscating alcohol from residents and ordering women not to wear short skirts.

    Scotland Yard has been forced to increase police presence in parts of the capital after intimidatory tactics deployed by hooded zealots who claim to be protecting “Muslim areas”.

    The vigilantes, who call themselves the Muslim Patrol, say they are “implementing Islam upon the necks” of non-believers.

    Footage of their activities was taken down from YouTube last week because it contravened the site’s rules on harassment, bullying and threatening behaviour.

    In the footage, seen by The Sunday Times, the vigilantes:

    ■ Grab a can of lager from a startled white student and throw it on the floor, saying: “This is a Muslim area, so obviously no alcohol is allowed”


    Watch video and MORE

    International Business Times: Muslim Patrol: Does ‘The Truth About Saturday Night’ Show Britain Facing A Problem With ‘Morality Police’? [VIDEO]

    BY Angelo Young – Jan 18 2013

    Videos showing young British Muslims, who go by the name “Muslim Patrol,” harassing members of the public for what they deem as immoral behavior have been removed from the video hosting site YouTube, citing a violation of its harassment policy. But its efforts might be futile as the videos are being re-posted on the site by other YouTube subscribers that are outraged by the group’s actions.

    A women’s underwear advertisement from H&M is lit on fire to the sound of gunfire in this screengrab of one of the videos posted on YouTube.

    The hoodie-wearing men are seen in one three-minute video titled “The Truth About Saturday Night,” in which they force a man on a London street near a mosque to empty his beer on the ground and later tell a woman they are “vigilantes implementing Islam upon your own necks.”

    However, the Muslim Council of Britain responded quickly to the news and condemned the men’s actions.

    So, what is this whole Muslim Patrol thing anyway?

    It comes from a tradition in Islam characterized by the Arabic term “mutawwa,” which translates as “volunteer.”

    They typically bust prostitution and illegal distillery rings, and they have a lot of support among the public, but they also publicly berate women for not covering their hair or faces, force people to attend prayer and arrest young couples for dating.

    Somalia’s militant Al-Shebab (which translates as “The Youth”) are essentially self-proclaimed mutaween. In 2010, the group threatened to flog or even behead anyone caught watching the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

    (see the video and read the rest)

    And the CAIR Chief in Washington DC declaring they can enforce Sharia Law in the USA under claim middle-easterners originally discovered America is reason enough not to pass gun control laws in these times.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Shame that Britain has such gun-control laws, otherwise the muslims would be shooting the drinkers and the problem would be solved. (sarc)

      Truly, when will the multi-cultural enthusiasts stop pursuing this foolish hobby? It would seem that their efforts on “how to get along” are only aimed at the ones who were in the country first and not toward those whose goals are to turn London into (yet another) third-world muslim cesspool.

      Racism? Hardly. It’s the obvious and expected clash of two diametrically opposed sets of values. Western culture and islam have NEVER been able to rectify their differences and never will. Why socialists can’t seem to realize this is beyond me. But as Proreason said some time ago, the goal isn’t for the two cultures to get along, it’s for them to clash and fight it out with the political elites watching from afar and then picking the winner and using their power to eradicate the loser.

      This is a fool’s game. Certainly, the westerners will more than gladly take up arms to eradicate the muslim vermin but for now, the muslim vermin is irritating the westerners, much to the delight of the political elites, who never have to deal with them. However, the potential cost of such behavior by said elites is that the crocodile will eventually eat them, too. Visions of piano wire and a necktie party come to mind.

  11. canary says:

    Ottawa Citizen: Canada to transport African troops to Mali for fight against extremists, France says

    By David Pugliese – Jan 20, 2013

    Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Canada+transport+African+troops+Mali+fight+against+extremists+France+says/7846181/story.html#ixzz2IaunKozB

    The large Canadian aircraft has transported French armoured[sic] vehicles, trucks and batteries into Mali in support of the fighting there.

    The government noted that on Saturday night the C-17 completed its third flight to Mali, delivering six vehicles, a trailer and assorted crates, and that on Sunday more vehicles were transported to the capital city of Bamako.

    Mali had been considered stable until earlier this year when tribesmen seeking an independent country combined forces with Islamic militants to take control of the northern half of the country.

    That has prompted fears the jihadists and other terrorist groups active in a belt spanning Africa just south of the Sahara Desert will use the territory as a home base from which to launch attacks throughout the region and against Western targets.

    Germany has said it will contribute two transport aircraft while Britain has sent two C-17s to ferry French armoured vehicles and equipment.

    The Conservative government says Canada’s commitment of one of its four long-range strategic airlift planes, plus 35 military personnel, is “not a direct military mission.”

    Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Canada+transport+African+troops+Mali+fight+against+extremists+France+says/7846181/story.html#ixzz2IaqlyhPw

    “Mali had been considered stable until earlier this year when tribesmen seeking an independent country combined forces with Islamic militants to take control of the northern half of the country.”

    seriously, wth?

  12. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Tehran A Very Unsafe City

    New York Times


    Iran Resorts to Hangings in Public to Cut Crime

    EHRAN — An eerie silence filled the air as a crowd of around 300 gathered Sunday just before sunrise in a Tehran park. They awaited the arrival of two young men who were about to die.


    Police commanders and other officials blame government mismanagement of the economy — which they say has caused a rise in unemployment and inflation — for the increase in crime. International economic sanctions have aggravated problems, many here say, leading to a record gap between rich and poor in Iran.


    While no official statistics are publicly available, officials report a rise in violent crimes, mostly perpetrated by young men attacking their victims with knives to get money and other valuables. Local news media report only a fraction of the episodes, but at social gatherings of middle-class Iranians — the usual targets — horrific stories of theft, kidnapping, rape and home burglaries abound.

    So, Iran, with severely heavy gun-control laws, suffers from a plethora of theft, kidnapping, rape and home burglaries. Interesting.


    The two men, both unemployed and from poor families, had been caught two months ago on a security camera robbing a man and stabbing him, helped by two accomplices. Video from the crime spread on the Internet and caused a widespread uproar, prompting politicians and clerics to call for harsh measures.

    Harsh measures indeed, but even with the public hangings, crime has not been curtailed. The lousy economy, increasing unemployment and rise in the number of poor has resulted in lots of desperation whereby the risk is outweighed by the desire to survive.

    I wonder if Obama is aware of this. That is, from the standpoint of hurrying along the rioting and race wars he’s hoping for so he can declare himself emperor for life.

    Seems though that Iran should outlaw knives.

    • canary says:

      I don’t know, but he doesn’t have the Iran accent down as well as he does other Middle-Eastern countries like when he spoke in Egypt.

      But, it is getting very bad in Iran (eeeriiiiin) because Ahamadman doesn’t want an Arab Spring.

      And the Muslims in Cairo Egypt are burning Christians few churches left and I doubt he knows or even cares about that. We have a guy at church that’s afraid to even go back to India. The world is growing in their hatred towards Christians.

  13. captstubby says:

    Clinton lashes out at senator over Benghazi questioning

    Published January 23, 2013

    | FoxNews.com

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Wednesday lashed out over the claim that the administration misled Americans about the nature of the Libya terror attack by asserting that it was the result of a protest, raising her voice during a Senate hearing and asking: “What difference, at this point, does it make?”
    Clinton, in what may be her final set of testimony as secretary, pointedly challenged Republican Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson when he claimed the department could have “easily” determined what happened that night by interviewing staffers who were evacuated.
    He was referring to the administration’s initial claim that the attack sprung out of a protest. It was later determined there was no protest on the ground in Benghazi. Diplomatic security agents said as much to the FBI during interviews on Sept. 14, despite administration claims to the contrary two days later.
    “That was a piece of information that could have been easily – easily — ascertained, within hours if not days,” Johnson said.
    “We were misled that there were supposedly protests and something sprang out of that. … The American people could have known that (there was no protest) within days, and they didn’t know that.”
    At that point, Clinton began to raise her voice.
    “With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans,” she said.
    “I understand,” Johnson said.
    Clinton continued to speak, raising her voice and gesturing: “Was it because of a protest or is it because of guys out for a walk one night and they decide they go kill some Americans?
    “What difference, at this point, does it make?”
    Clinton, lowering her voice, then said it is the administration’s job to “figure out what happened” and prevent it from happening again.
    Later in the testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Clinton acknowledged the administration did not have a “clear picture” of what happened in the immediate aftermath. She said perhaps officials didn’t do a good enough job explaining that they “didn’t have a clear picture.”
    But Clinton still said the motivations of the attackers, to this day, is not clear. “Even today there are questions being raised,” she said, referring to findings in the classified version of a recent report that she could not describe in detail.
    Clinton, throughout the hearing, walked a fine line between taking responsibility generally for what went wrong and challenging specific allegations against her department and the administration.
    During the opening of the hearing, Clinton said she has “no higher priority” than the security of her department’s staff, and that she is committed to making the department “safer, stronger and more secure.”
    “As I have said many times, I take responsibility, and nobody is more committed to getting this right,” Clinton said, later choking up when describing how she greeted the families of the victims when the caskets were returned.
    Clinton went on to defend the administration’s actions on the night of Sept. 11, when the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi came under fire and four Americans died.
    “I directed our response from the State Department and stayed in close contact with officials from across our government and the Libyan government,” she said. “No delays in decision-making. No denials of support from Washington or from our military.”
    Citing the findings of a review panel, she said: “The Board said the response saved American lives in real time — and it did.”
    Several accounts relayed to Fox News, though, suggest possible delays in the response.
    Fox News has learned from senior U.S. defense officials that a FAST team of Marines out of Spain was asked by State Department officials to change out of their Marine uniforms after being asked to leave for Libya to help — this required them to deplane and delayed them by about 90 minutes, according to Pentagon officials.
    Then there is the decision by Clinton and State Department Undersecretary of Management Patrick Kennedy not to mobilize the Counterterrorism Security Group, which is composed of experts on terrorism from across government agencies and makes recommendations on the response to crises involving terrorism.
    Further, there are questions about the perceived delays CIA officials — stationed in Benghazi — encountered that night and their frustration that air support was not sent from nearby Sigonella air base. In recent weeks, Fox News has learned that the rescue unit that left Tripoli was told that air support would be above when they landed in Benghazi. It wasn’t.
    Members of the Special Operations teams sent from Fort Bragg, N.C. and the Commander’s In Extremis Force in nearby Croatia also say they were never given permission to enter Libya, even though some were just a short flight away in Europe.
    The hearing Wednesday comes amid a broadening threat to U.S. interest across North Africa. There are reports that some of the attackers who took hostages in the deadly raid on an Algeria gas plant may have also participated in the Libya attack.
    “Benghazi did not happen in a vacuum,” Clinton said Wednesday, while saying later she could not verify that specific claim.She said instability has created an “expanding safe haven for terrorists” who plot into Algeria and other countries.
    The Obama administration has also faced scrutiny about security requests that were denied in the months leading up to the attack. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., top Republican on the Senate committee, lamented “the spiking of the ball and the thinking that when Usama bin Laden was gone that was the end of Al Qaeda.”
    “We know nothing could be further from the truth,” he said.
    Clinton appeared to agree that the terrorist threat is far from diminished, but said that she never saw the requests from the Libya team for more security.
    “I didn’t see those requests, they didn’t come to me,” Clinton said.
    Clinton will testify Wednesday afternoon on the House side.

    “”Even today there are questions being raised,” she said, referring to findings in the classified version .
    “”I directed our response from the State Department .”
    “”I didn’t see those requests, they didn’t come to me,”
    perhaps officials didn’t do a good enough job explaining that they “didn’t have a clear picture.”


    “ITS Bush’s FAULT”


    “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

  14. Reality Bytes says:

    PREDICTION: Michelle Obama’s New Hair – am I the only one jaded enough to think perhaps Ms Obama will be sporting natural hair soon? While the right will yawn, the left will have another non event to cheer!


    Washington Babylon Indeed.

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