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Roger Simon Warns: Don’t Trust The Polls

From the Politico:

Polls lie about Obama

By: Roger Simon
September 7, 2010 

Polls lie. All the time. And that is because people lie to pollsters.

Take the recent polls that have dominated talk radio, talk television, and the blogosphere for weeks now. These are the polls that say a surprising percentage of Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim…

We should know Obama and his true beliefs a lot better now, but we don’t seem to

The White House has done what it can to handle the recent polls and stories. Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton said: “The president is obviously a Christian. He prays every day. He communicates with his religious adviser every day. There’s a group of good pastors that he takes counsel from on a regular basis. And his faith is very important to him, but it’s not something that is a topic of conversation every single day.”

Oh, yeah? Says who?

On Aug. 25, the supermarket tabloid, the Globe, ran a picture of Obama in Somali garb, wearing a white turban, from his visit to Africa in 2006, with the headline: “Obama IS a Muslim!”

By the way, Somalis are 99% Muslim.

A few days ago, Glenn Beck of Fox News continued the theme that even if Obama is some kind of Christian, he is not the right kind of Christian.

“People aren’t recognizing his version of Christianity,” Beck said, describing Obama’s version as “Marxist.” …

The ‘Christianity’ practiced at the Reverend Wright’s Trinity Church is very far from mainstream. It is drenched in Afro-centric Black Liberation Theology, which is indeed quite “Marxist.”

You can make the argument that it is beneath the dignity of the White House to address such matters, but when you refuse to answer questions, no matter how ridiculous, you get accused by the press of “not controlling the message.” (It used to be that controlling the message was looked upon askance by the media, but now the media bash you when you don’t try to control them.)

Is this a talking point from the White House? Or is this a talking point that ‘Journolista’ Roger Simon is sending the White House? It’s so confusing.

But Obama has been pretty definitive on the subject, telling Christianity Today in 2008: “I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life.”

Unsurprisingly, Mr. Obama said this exactly three days before the South Carolina primaries. Which seems to be about the time Mr. Obama found religion during the campaign.

But what did I mean at the top of this piece when I said that polls lie? Gary Langer, the longtime polling director for ABC News, who now polls and consults for the network, said in his blog a few days ago:

“It’s quickly mushroomed into the summer’s hottest data point: A boatload of Americans believe Barack Obama’s a Muslim.

“Except that, maybe, they don’t. Consider this instead: They’re just willing to say it.”

According to Langer, people tell pollsters stuff that people don’t really believe as a way of bashing a person they don’t like.

“It’s human nature,” Langer wrote. “Some people who strongly oppose a person or proposition will take virtually any opportunity to express that antipathy.”

According to Langer, “calling Barack Obama a Muslim is – – for people who see this as a negative attribute – – a handy way to say you don’t like the guy.”

In other words, we should not get into a tizzy about religion when we read such polls.

It is not about Christian vs. Muslim, it is about people vs. Obama.

What a coincidence that Mr. Simon would write a piece entitled ‘Polls Lie’ and quote Mr. Langer, just when an ABC News/Washington Post poll conducted by the selfsame Mr. Langer is causing such a stir with its bad news for the Ruling Class.

It’s almost as if Mr. Simon is claiming that the same people who are stupid enough to call Mr. Obama a Muslim — even when they know he isn’t — are the same stupid people who are giving Mr. Obama such low approval ratings in the latest polls.

And they probably don’t mean that they don’t like Mr. Obama’s socialism, either. They are just grasping at anything to attack the guy — who they really only dislike for being black.

It’s almost as if Mr. Simon and the rest of our media are trying to marginalize the American voter, now that they are turning on Obama and the rest of the Democrats.

This article was posted by Steve on Tuesday, September 7th, 2010. Comments are currently closed.

22 Responses to “Roger Simon Warns: Don’t Trust The Polls”

  1. hushpuppy says:

    Ah! I get it – what Roger Simon is really saying is Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

    It’s so much fun to watch the left self destruct!

  2. untrainable says:

    Nah, don’t worry about those polls. Dems don’t need to spend millions to keep their house and senate seats. We all LOVE them just the way they are. Liars, criminals, and thieves. I’m sure they’ll all be re-elected.

  3. mr_bill says:

    This is great, liberals don’t go to the bathroom unless it gets favorable numbers the polls. Now that the polls are showing that they are despised by most of America, they start telling people to ignore the polls. We heard about obama’s favorability polls incessantly when his numbers were positive, but now that they’ve turned, “polls lie.”

    I would be inclined to agree that the polls are misleading, but not in the way that Mr. Simon suggests. They underestimate the degree to which the Americans who were stupid enough to vote for these clowns now regret their irrational votes. The polls typically oversample liberals and democrats and undersample conservatives. They manipulate questions to make liberal agenda items sound better. Every poll that uses registered voters and likely voters scores far worse for the obama-pelosi-reid agenda than do those who sample anybody who answers the phone.

    Beyond these problems and the obvious liberal bias that we have all known for a long time, the polls are not taking into account the HUGE number of conservatives and republicans that will turn out in November. The primaries were a small taste, but dems will be in awe of the numbers of opposition voters who will turn out in November.

    • tranquil.night says:

      Exactly right Bill. They still claim that they’re facing an anti-government, anti-incumbent mood, but I think they secretly know and fear that this is a true Conservative Ascendancy.

      It’s a shame too because the Republican establishment nearly has the Tea Party candidate in Delaware’s former Biden seat forced out of the race because polls have our base pretty much convinced that she’s a no-win.

      Christie needs to keep his big mouth and butt out of national issues; he’s too naive. Love his governing style and his economic policy is right on, but he’s obviously trying to buck himself out of “Hero of the Right” status to position himself more as an established Jersey political moderate. Those not completely smitten with Christie fever probably realized that it’s really who he is.

  4. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Will, with each and every post you withdraw from the sum of human knowledge. Yes, believe it. Conservatives will come out to get rid of, not just socialist democrats but also socialist republicans.

    By your thinking, all conservatives are members of the KKK and therefore racists. That argument is tired, used and very weak at best. Many of us have a wide variety of friends of all different backgrounds.

    As for the same-sex argument, well….you’ll have to work that out with your boyfriend. I have no opinion of it one way or the other. There are many more important issues.

    I don’t know anyone here who hasn’t had a balanced disagreement with corporate America. We do know that no poor person ever gave any of us a job. The object of a corporation is to make money. If you are of the opinion that all corporations are greedy and evil, then you are probably a very bitter person who has never excelled at anything and hates competition. That speaks more of your internal struggle with reality than anything else.

    Sure, corporations have done unethical things. But so does government, and I’ll even go s far as to say that I have a time or two. Nothing very egregious, like stealing office supplies but the point is that there is no perfect entity.

    If you are a believer that big government is the answer then come back in a year and let me know how that’s working for you.

  5. BannedbytheTaliban says:

    Wonder if they will be saying the same thing if they loose the poll in November?

  6. untrainable says:

    I’m still waiting to find out what kind of doctor Will is. He was so proud to call himself a doctor on the other thread. Go Rusty.

  7. mr_bill says:

    Will, have a look at the voter turnout in the primaries, then re-visit your statement. Its got the libtards scared spitless and they can’t figure out how it happened. Its a nice thing to see. Folks like you spend all your time thinking about how rural, rusted, racist, bigoted, and backwards “conservatives” are, but you have no clue that 65-80% of America self-identify as conservatives. We’re not racists, we’re not rural bitter-clingers, we’re not bigots, we’re people who believe that government is not always the answer. We believe that robbing from Peter to pay Paul doesn’t work. We believe answers come from truth and critical examination of facts, not from what “feels good” at the moment. We believe that the federal government functioned just fine for 200 years and the USA became the greatest nation in the history of the world because of the reasons and truths contained in our Founding Documents and the knowledge of our Founding Fathers-these things do not need to be re-written constantly to fit what feels good. Government does not need to spend $3.5 trillion dollars a year for our country to function, it doesn’t need to spend half of that.

    You’re so sure that you know who conservatives are, you haven’t spent 10 seconds in your life trying to understand the things that conservatives actually believe, its easier for you to label us and hate us based on the label you use; and that is true bigotry.

    You’re so afraid of being wrong, so afraid that all the trash you’ve been indoctrinated with will fall apart, that you can’t let your mind open up to what conservative principles actually are. The word “liberal” originally had a connotation of “open-mindedness” (it didn’t last long) but it has an insult (so much so that liberals want to be called progressives, just as FDR era progressives wanted to be called liberals), because that set of beliefs and behaviors are unattractive, unkind, and go against everything good, right, equal, and just in this world. Whatever name they are called by, must be periodically changed in an effort to fool people into believing that tripe.

    So go ahead, hurl your ad hominem attacks, they don’t bother me and they speak volumes about your [lack of] character. One day you will be mature enough to understand what the rest of us are talking about. Until then, maybe the huffing and puffing post or the daily kooks is a better place for your political tastes.

    Update from USA Communist Today (dateline 9/7/2010):
    “…Gans looked at 35 primaries held before Sept. 1 and found that 4 million more Republicans voted than Democrats — statistical proof of the “enthusiasm gap” that pollsters and pundits have been talking about….”
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/09/american-university-expert-democratic-turnout-lowest-in-80-years/1

  8. wardmama4 says:

    Damn, I miss all the good stuff – had to take a miserable adult child (disabled, can’t drive) to the dentist. I’d love to know what drivel Will posted. Oh bother.

    -‘Christianity Today in 2008: “I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life-‘ (Just for grins, he never exactly said he accepted Jesus as his Savior)

    and

    -‘Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.’- Interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times March 6, 2007. (just for grins, recited it in perfect Arabic ‘accent’ – umm, sorry I learned German in HS, even lived twice in Germany and my German sucks – how can he do it after leaving that ‘environment’ in 1971 – having learned it as a small child for a mere 4, 6, 10 years of his life?)

    So the questions become 1) did Obama convert to Christianity sometime between March 2007 and 2008? 2) Is one a lie and the other the truth? 3) Are both lies? 4) Do not these two quotes from Obama’s mouth cause the confusion as to whether Obama is a Christian or a Muslim, thus this confusion is not We The People’s fault but Obama’s own fault? And like his inability to provide his long form birth certificate – Obama apparently loves to create chaos and confusion as to exactly who he is and what he believes. so that leads to the final question – 5) Why?

    God Help America
    A Proud American Infidel

    • tranquil.night says:

      “I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life”

      Indeed, wm, you’re not miraculously a Christian by intellectually paraphrasing one stanza of the basic Confession of Faith. Not necassrily even if you’ve participated in the rituals of Baptism/Communion/etc.

      What this quote reflects is someone who is trying to prove his Christian devotion to those in question by identifying with what he knows to be its most essential, transformational, enlightening and unique belief.

      Christianity isn’t just a set of moral and philosophical insights gathered from a small population of particular people and cultures in history, which is probably how he sees it. It’s a living faith that is constantly in play with every decision we make (thus his attempt to make his daily routine appear spiritually centered/conscious). What choices have Barack Obama made personally or professionally that employ any of the traditional tenents of sacrifice for others? It’s all been a very brutal climb to the top for him, power seized only for self-benefit or the mutual-benefit of a very small and immoral group. Revenge on his and their behalf is the only thing that animates him.

      “5) Why?”

      You know wm, but it’s worth repeating. His own personal beliefs are transparent as ever if you watch his actions – they just don’t clearly fit any of today’s mainstream religions except Islam to a degree. But what’s to indicate that Barack sees today’s institutional Religions in any way different than he sees race or anything else – as a political card to be played to further tumult?

      Just look at that billboard sign picture Steve posted.. Divide and Conquer for Change. That’s the mission.

  9. proreason says:

    I don’t believe the Moron is a Muslim…..but it turns out at least a billion people do believe it.

    Muslims.

  10. confucius says:

    First, came the the Bradley Effect and then the Wilder Effect. So what is this–the Obama Effect?

    Liberals can be so dizzying.

  11. proreason says:

    You can trust the polls when it comes to Col West.

    Hello Colonel…..you are certainly a regular reader of S&L.

    Here’s your interview from AT:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/a_candid_talk_with_allen_west.html

    Next time you need a gas can mule in a trip through hell, let us know. We can probably scrounge up few dozen or so to help.

    • tranquil.night says:

      Sign me up. I’m eagerly anticipating Col. West’s hand-delivered Southern Fried Butt-whipping of Congress.

      “We have to secure our borders. It is a national security issue. The number-one language being learned by terrorists right now is Spanish, and we are finding prayer rugs and translation books all along the border. It is also an economic issue, a health care issue, an education issue, and a criminality issue. But Obama and the Democrats think it is more important to get 12 to 15 million new voters than protect our borders, so it is up to us to take care of matters ourselves. The 10th Amendment provides for this, and I strongly support the Arizona law.”

      Difficult to choose, but my favorite response. Brilliantly succinct, powerful, and with clear optics.

  12. proreason says:

    Don’t worry libwits.

    Moochelle is going to come to your rescue in November.

    http://thechive.com/2009/12/30/michelle-obama-is-fugly-someone-had-to-say-it-15-photos/

    • tranquil.night says:

      “They believed in nothing, now they are nothing. But you and I will change all that. We will give the world something to believe in.” – Akasha, Queen of the Damned.

  13. misanthropicus says:

    If something is clear in this affair, that is the fact the liberals are scared to death by the healthy dimensions this affair is acquiring – it simply cannot be controlled by the MSM anymore, and now, all what they can do is to wring their hands over the mental incompetence of the unwashed masses who simply cannot understand that, when:

    Franziscus School registration page shows:
    * Name: Barry Soetero –
    * Citizenship: Indonesian –
    * religion: Muslim –

    … and dba Obama and his acolytes deny all these solid facts, yet also stubbornly refuse to provide contrary evidence and explanations to this…

    … that looks like, quacks like, walks like, and acts like… a major quackery…

    And Simon, with his smug, obfuscating rhetoric, is sure part of this quackery –

  14. xdannyh says:

    If these polls are accurate and many of the egregious liberals are voted out, I believe that would be a good thing. But who would want the job of trying to right this sinking ship. Everyone knows that the level of spending is unsustainable but where to make the cuts, SS, Medicare, Defense, Social programs, they are all untouchable, in the political sense. Look I’m a Tea partier myself, but it all comes down to who’s Ox is being gored, and when we find out that we are going to suffer pain along with the looters and moochers, I believe that the reaction isn’t going to be happy. It seems to me everybody is on the hook to “big government” in some way. The tax write offs, the brother in law in state funded therapy, poor little nephew, born with problems, that are now being taken care of by the government etc etc. You get think about it. How many folks do you know that are completely independent of big brother. I only know I wouldn’t want the job of trying to clean up this mess that has been 50 years in the making so “fasten your seat belts it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”.

  15. Mithrandir says:

    OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM –by Ann Coulter

    He is an atheist! Hmm, a Muslim father + radical non-Christian mother + 20 year alliance to bigoted church = devout Christian?

    Has this guy done ANYTHING that anyone would resemble as being Christian? Hardly. The fact is he and the Clintons are political animals, and could care a less about ‘lesser’ Gods than government.

    *I have heard unrelenting praise for Islam.
    *I have heard unrelenting silence or mockery of Christianity from Obama.

    You decide.

  16. Ultra-C says:

    Wait a minute — the “good” news is that a sizable portion of the electorate dislikes Obama so much that they are just willing to call him a Muslim, even though they absolutely believe that he is, in fact, a Christian?

    Wow, if that’s the “good” news for the Dim-o-crats, it’s going to be a VERY rough November for them.

    • AcornsRNutz says:

      I was kind of thinking the same thing. I mean, either way, either they think he is a muslim, or just dislike him enough to call him one. What is the practical difference?

  17. untrainable says:

    I’m more concerned about his politics than his religion. But if he harbors muslim beliefs, then his religion IS his politics.

    Q: What’s the difference between God and Obama?
    A: God doesn’t think he’s Obama…


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