SubscribeSaudis Prohibit The Selling Of Dogs And Cats
From those terrorist enablers at Reuters:
Saudi to ban sale of cats and dogs
Saturday 09 September 2006
Municipal authorities in the Saudi Arabian cities of Mecca and Jeddah have banned the sale of cats and dogs as un-Islamic.
Saudi’s religious police, the Muttawa, have been instructed to prevent the sale of cats and dogs in order to prevent the spread of Western ideas into the highly Islamic country, Saudi media reported on Friday…
The Muttawa are normally tasked with forcing women to cover themselves, ensuring that men attend mosque prayers and enforcing other Islamic obligations.
Banning the sale of dogs may surprise few in the desert kingdom, since conservative Muslims despise dogs as ritually unclean.
But the cat ban has baffled many. Islamic traditions say that Muhammad, Islam’s founder, loved cats - even in one instance letting a cat drink from his ablutions water before he washed himself for prayers…
For religious conservatives, however, the practice is a dangerous immitation [sic] of non-Islamic cultures, just like eating fast food, wearing shorts and jeans, or listening to pop music.
Saudi religious leaders say all these practices should be resisted because they undermine traditions and distract people from their religious duties…
“There’s no doubt that such a matter makes one shudder.”
“Then what’s the point of dragging a dog behind you? This is blind emulation of the infidels…
The Saudi government gives the Muttawa wide leeway to enforce any rule they deem necessary to uphold the social order…
The decree did not say whether the religious police would try to stop people from appearing in public with their dog or cat - or whether owners would be allowed to sell puppies or kittens born to their pets…
As the article points out, Muslims have always hated dogs.
But then again, they seem to hate everything.
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September 9th, 2006 at 11:02 am
I was going to point out to our single, female members that I very closely resemble the adorable puppy (I am a bit taller) pictured at the top of this thread. But if I did that, sure as hell DB/SG would change the picture to something really loathesome -like a French poodle.
Suffice to say, that if the Arabs cannot bring themselves to fawn all over such a cute creature the way we would -and aren’t even practical enough to say “Hmmm…good eatin’…! ” -then there is definitely something wrong with them. For me, this seals it. Let’s nuke ‘em. We’ll have PETA on our side now.
September 9th, 2006 at 11:39 am
DW….I heard that you resemble a Saint Bernard in heat….but your point is well made. If the muslims feel that owning dogs and cats goes against sharia law, that is their privelige! Just dont come to my house, and tell me I cant. This isnt the middle east. This is America. oh, and Canada too! Religious zealots throughout history have made incredible efforts to convert and forcibly cause people to conform to their idea of how life should be led. They have all failed. It wont work, simply because of human nature.
Our ability to choose is what makes us human. Those who automatically conform do so out of fear. Fear of death or being labled sub human and thus subject to the machinations of the religion in charge. I dont have all the answers, never will. But, I do have the ability to choose. I choose to live my life as I choose to, and not under the dictates of some lunatic who’s entire reason for living is the “cleanse the world of nonbelievers”. Screw em, if they embrace their God so vociferously, I will do my best to see that they meet their God personally. I dont wish to, and therein lies the rub.
September 9th, 2006 at 11:53 am
DW….I heard that you resemble a Saint Bernard in heat
That’s only because I always have a jug of booze hanging around my neck (you be nice sj !)
Their “religious police” -the “Muttawa”
Does anyone else immediately think of …brownshirts?
September 9th, 2006 at 11:58 am
Damnit DW, get off my leg. ;)
September 9th, 2006 at 12:01 pm
Our Brownshirts will be under the guise of Democratic Party members. They are well under way now, and the bold move to censure ABC, if successful, will embolden them even further.
Ha! I can just see the Muttwas in downtown Detroit, or any other city….trying to make everyone conform. They would be beaten to death in less than three minutes. Unless of course, Democratically controlled government passes laws to prevent anyone’s individuality.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
“Screw em, if they embrace their God so vociferously, I will do my best to see that they meet their God personally.”
” I believe that forgiving them is God’s function. OUR job is to arrange the meeting.”
Norman Schwartzkopf.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:05 pm
Hey 1st ! Jeff key plays trumpet. I play trumpet. I guess we both just gotta hump a Marine !
(you two buggers {you and sj} are completely torpedoing any faint hope I had of meeting -or a at least garnering sympathy from- some nice conservative lady on this site)
I hope you’re happy…(sniffle)
September 9th, 2006 at 12:12 pm
Speaking of conservatives hotties, check Betheny out.
http://www.realverse.com/
September 9th, 2006 at 12:23 pm
It’ll have to wait til Monday for me 1st (dial-up internet and 12 hour night shifts this weekend). She’s cute though.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:30 pm
DW….there are scads of conservative cuties who adore you….they just dont have the new snow shoes down pat yet. And, as a service to our geographically challenged stalwart comrade in arms from the Great White North…..every last one of you female conservatives lurking out there, timid to post, but enamoured with the movie star looks that DW has, and his frothing masculinity rippling in the firelight…..he is the perfect excuse to see what the real north looks like. Betcha he would take you on a personal tour too….so dont be shy! DW is protecting the entire Northern approaches by his damn self, and I think he needs accolades to that effect! Conservative women everywhere! Unite! Contact DW…..but, since he has dial up, ya gotta be patient for a reply. Oh, and he has a real job too, great pay and benefits…owns a home, car, canoe, so what a catch!
There DW..ya big crybaby.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:32 pm
…sigh
September 9th, 2006 at 12:38 pm
back on topic, maybe this is why Mutthamed was so superstitious;
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Subject: Dog vs cat diary
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:01:20 -0400
A Dog’s Diary
7 am - Oh boy! A walk! My favorite!
8 am - Oh boy! Dog food! My favorite!
9 am - Oh boy! The kids! My favorite!
Noon - Oh boy! The yard! My favorite!
2 pm - Oh boy! A car ride! My favorite!
3 pm - Oh boy! The kids! My favorite!
4 pm - Oh boy! Playing ball! My favorite!
6 pm - Oh boy! Welcome home Mom! My favorite!
7 pm - Oh boy! Welcome home Dad! My favorite!
8 pm - Oh boy! Dog food! My favorite!
9 pm - Oh boy! Tummy rubs on the couch! My favorite!
11 pm - Oh boy! Sleeping in my people’s bed! My favorite!
A Cat’s Diary
Day 183 of my captivity. My captors continued to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while I am forced to eat dry cereal. The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of escape, and the mild satisfaction I get from clawing the furniture. Tomorrow I may eat another house plant.
Today my attempt to kill my captors by weaving around their feet while they were walking almost succeeded. Maybe I should try this at the top of the stairs.
In an attempt to disgust and repulse these vile oppressors, I once again induced myself to vomit on their favorite chair. I must try this on their bed.
Decapitated a mouse and brought them the headless body in an attempt to make them aware of what I am capable of, and to try to strike fear into their hearts. They only cooed and condescended about what a good little kitty cat I was. This is not working according to plan.
There was some sort of gathering of their accomplices. I was placed in solitary confinement throughout the event. However, I could hear the noise and smell the food. More important, I overheard that my confinement was due to my powers of inducing something called “allergies.” Must learn what this is and how to use it to my advantage.
I am convinced the other captives are flunkies and maybe snitches. The dog is routinely released and seems more than happy to return. He is obviously a half-wit.
The bird, on the other hand, has got to be an informant. He speaks with them regularly, and I am certain he reports my every move. Due to his current placement in the metal room, his safety is assured. But I can wait.
It’s only a matter of time.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
We love you DW. Buck up.
September 9th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
Go ahead…laugh at them…. but the House of Representatives just passed a bill outlawing the slaughtering of horses for the purposes of human consumption. You can still kill them for dog food, of course, and still put them down by vet action which is accomplished by shooting them full of poison which makes them unfit for anything other than landfill. Oh yeah…we’re so much less idiotic! There are no provisions for caring for unwanted horses, by the way. And no means to reduce the population of feral (no, they’re not really wild) horses that over graze various publicly owned areas.
As an addendum, it costs about $150 per horse to euthanize one in my area, and another $175 to haul it to the renderers.
This goes to the Senate next.
What idiocy - as if the dead animal cares what’s done with it’s carcass. We _have_ laws about treatment on the way to the slaughter house - if they need to be better enforced, then do it. PETA (who is the sponsor on this one) will be after cattle, pigs and chickens next - just wait.
September 9th, 2006 at 1:51 pm
PETA has a new friend. They have a lot in common.
September 9th, 2006 at 3:09 pm
wait a minute - haven’t the Mutts(awa) placed themselves and their rantings, oops revelations above Muhammad on this one (if he loved cats and had one close enough to drink with him) and doesn’t that make them blasphemers which under their Wahabbi or Sharia or whatever law, mean death?
I realize now exactly why the Dems don’t view these lunatics as the ENEMY, one because they are both lunatics, driven by their respective ‘obsessions’ past reality and sanity and two because they both speak with hypocritical tongues out of both sides of their mouths and finally because they both fantasize about being the powerful Leader while the World is their slaves and they live as they damn well please. Too bad if the islamicfacists win, even all of Soroscos money won’t buy him a second more of life.
Wonder when the stupid masses are going to wake up and join us - hopefully it will be before it is too late.
September 9th, 2006 at 4:07 pm
“(if [Mohammad] loved cats and had one close enough to drink with him) and doesn’t that make them blasphemers which under their Wahabbi or Sharia or whatever law, mean death?”
There seems to be very little rhyme or reason to these clerical decisions.
They remind me of the way the left interprets the Constitution.
September 9th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
“Go ahead…laugh at them…. but the House of Representatives just passed a bill outlawing the slaughtering of horses for the purposes of human consumption.”
Horses are the new sacred cows, I guess.
September 9th, 2006 at 4:33 pm
A sort of reason for this legislation (which I really don’t agree with) but if horses are not handled properly and killed immediately before slaughter - the result will kill people. That is one of the reason that horses have been low down on the meat charts. Second the wild horses are protected animals - if horses become the new ‘red’ meat - they stand a good chance of being wiped out. Sorry I disagree with feral maybe a hundred and fifty years ago but now, they are indeed a separate, distinct wild species.
I can’t come down on either side of this at all - I will never be a vegatarian but again factory farms turn my stomach and make me want to give up all meat, can’t kill bambi but sure have a great recipes (and thanks to a friend a freezer full), have no problem eating a variety of things (grains, plants, fruits, veggies and meats) that the good Lord put on earth. Doesn’t upset me or cause me to think about it much. I think as fresh and close to natural/raw as possible is the best way to eat - everything else is just personal preferences. I think that the problem here is that horses fit into the dog/cat/pet catagory just a little too much.
Don’t know if I could eat Seabiscuit or not - but do know if it comes down to starvation or Seabiscuit - I won’t starve.
September 9th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
DW-
I adore a furry, funny and logical conservative man. I think you’ve proven furry and funny but by your insistance in living in the arctic the logical has flown right out the window.
But the above thing about Mohammed confirms my suspicions about cat owners. Can’t be trusted.
I haven’t had horse but alligator jerky is pretty tasty.
September 9th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
I think I ate dog one time, not sure. But I know I ate rattlesake, it tasted like chicken.
September 9th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
I remember being so excited the first time the Russians sent a dog up into space: I was hoping it was the beginning of a Trend. But now there are even more of them infesting the earth; all kinds of bloodthirsty fanatics and socialists too. At least I am not to blame for any of it, and won’t be around much longer to pay for any of it any more than I have already.
September 9th, 2006 at 8:16 pm
1st…..dogs in Viet Nam….monkey meat on a stick in the P.I. I thought the dog was monkey meat until somebody told me the truth. I was only 19 and kinda soooopid then.
September 9th, 2006 at 9:04 pm
WI,
Did you ever eat those almost hatched chickens in Oki?
September 9th, 2006 at 10:03 pm
1st - No but I sure drank alot of Saki :)
September 9th, 2006 at 10:28 pm
1st…actually “Baluts” are a Filipino delicacy but they had them on the rock also. I’ve eaten them in both places but I have to admit, I was very very drunk when I did it. And like the rocketman….drank a lot of Sake and “Orion” beer in Okinawa. I was stationed at the CB unit in Naha after my VN adventures.
September 9th, 2006 at 10:30 pm
Hey War…were you allowed to explore the far end of the island…or the old battlegrounds along the coast? I am curious as to what status the Japanese government has put on those places Shuri Castle, Nishi ridge…you know.
September 9th, 2006 at 10:47 pm
I’ve been to all of them SJ. Even after Japan took over the government of the island in (I think) 1972, they kept the sites pretty much as they were and just expanded them for tourism. The history of the island is very interesting in that the Okinawans aren’t really Japanese in the truest sense. Most of the natives are of mixed Japanese, Chinese and Filipino blood, just mostly Japanese. They didn’t support the Japanese in WWII either, but were pretty much held hostage to helping them during the invasion in 1945.
September 10th, 2006 at 12:46 pm
Here’s an interesting little tidbit on the cats and dogs thing - what are the clerics intending for the the people to do with the cats and dogs in the kingdom? Allowing the ASPCA to come in and box ‘em up and ship them to nice American homes? Doubt it.
Hitler had the Hitler youth kill cats and dogs as a way to desensitize them to killing living things. Be interesting to find out if the Saudi clerics are going to have the young Saudi male youths kill the cats and dogs.
Funny how no matter how these Arabs screed on about the Religion of Peace they seem to be mirroring Hitler and the hate the Jews behaviors at all turns.
Oh BTW - another interesting tidbit today - who did the Arabs descend from, before Islam? I will return after football and post - you will be very, very surprized.
September 10th, 2006 at 1:24 pm
>>A sort of reason for this legislation (which I really don’t agree with) but if horses are not handled properly and killed immediately before slaughter - the result will kill people. >>
Please clarify…”killing” and “slaughtering” are one and the same. Also, what are you saying needs to be done? and how can the result kill people?
>>That is one of the reason that horses have been low down on the meat charts. >>
Horsemeat is a delicacy in France (wouldn’t you know! )
>>Second the wild horses are protected animals - if horses become the new ‘red’ meat - they stand a good chance of being wiped out.>>
True - that was the first mistake.
>>Sorry I disagree with feral maybe a hundred and fifty years ago but now, they are indeed a separate, distinct wild species.>>
Check out your definitions. And they are _not_ a separate distinct wild species. If you believe this is true, please help me out by explaining what constitutes a “distinct”, “wild” “species” and how this came to be. How are they different from any other mixed breed of horse? You _are_ aware of the BLM “wild horse” adoptions, are you not?
September 10th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
My team has already won today, so I will take a crack, more or less.
I can’t speak for all Arabs, but wasn’t big Mo half Jewish?
September 10th, 2006 at 4:30 pm
They are the decendants of Cane.
September 10th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
Common knowledge has Hebrews descending from Isaac and the Arabs from Ishmael….tho I suspect Mama has a twist to the tale to share?
September 10th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
They are the decendants of Cane.
they are the product of psychosis. Dilusional self loathing and a maniacal effort to make the earth into a mystical form of paradise.
It cant be done. History proves it. Oh, sorry, I mean the history that was taught up until about thirty years ago. People of religious fanatacism eventually self destruct simply because they end up dying with the infidels they wish to eliminate. the entire world cannot, and will not just quit living to suit a few jerk offs with aborrant views. When given a choice, sane people invariably choose life. Those who do not willingly or unwillingly eliminate themselves from the equation by their actions, and the inability to carry on indefinately.
They will all die….just not soon enough.
September 10th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
Liberals lack the COMMON SENSE gene.
September 10th, 2006 at 5:20 pm
Horses start to decompose immediately. It sort of what lead to the original wild horse acts, as they would die after being chased down, rounded up and hauled off in trucks. Resulting illnesses with both dogs and humans (workers at rendering plants) made it abundantly clear that they are a ‘different’ animal in that respect. Actually, it is Belgium that has developed a breed of horse specifically for human consumption. On the distinct breed that is how the ’specific’ breeds come about, repeat interbreeding to make distinct characteristics - Mustangs are small, hardy, short sprinters but endurance that is virtually unmatchable and they tend to the earth tones of browns, blacks and grey shades. On the BLM, yepper for $125ish you too can own a piece of American history on the hoof. Just like the ponies from Chincoteague - they thin that herd to and sell a few each year. Has to be done or inbreeding would destroy them.
On the Arabs - back in Genesis - Abram’s wife Sarai did not believe God that they would be parents and talked Abram into a second marriage to Hagar her maid. After Hagar became ‘uppity’ (despised Sarai in the bible) after becoming pregnant. Abram told Sarai to send her away (after all Sarai was ‘the’ wife and the ‘boss’). Hagar gave birth to a son Ismael when Abram was 86 years old. Abram of course was much more dedicated to God and God did not mind the mess Sarai created (so to speak) and Abram and Sarai had a son Issac when Abram who had become Abraham was 100 and Sarah was 90. [This is the Abrahamic Covenent in the bible] Hagar and Ishmael were sent out and “His hand will be against everyone, And everyone’s hand will be against him; and he will live to the east of his brothers.” (Gen 16:12) So the Arabs are descended from Abraham the father of Jews. In other words the Arab/Jew issue is a family feud. And the World is being dragged into it.
I cross checked with a couple of Arab sites/blogs to see if they agreed and yes they do (although they do leave out the Abraham, father of Jews part out). Also one of them claims that Philip the Arab was the really the first Roman Christian emperor not Constantine. Yes, let’s go there too, we were Christians too.
Which of course doubly makes their current hatred and fatwas suspect, since they are using their religion (of peace) to kill the descendants of their ancestors. Sort of like Hitler once again.
September 10th, 2006 at 5:41 pm
Do I get a prize for posting the correctamundo answer first? 40 days and 40 nights in the desert? Heck, that beats the 101 days I have schedule to last…..
September 10th, 2006 at 6:02 pm
Infidelity Not safe for the mosque, but appropriate for children.
September 10th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
>>Horses start to decompose immediately. >>
Biology isn’t your strong suit? Like cattle, horses are killed with a blow to the head, then hoisted bled and butchered. Like cattle, they are then refrigerated, so decomposition is not a problem. Since horsemeat is generally not sold for human consumption in the US, carcasses are then shipped in refrigerated boats to Europe. US horsemeat has not been banned for unsuitable conditions upon arrival. Eu is not shy about rejected unacceptable US food product.
>>t sort of what lead to the original wild horse acts, as they would die after being chased down, rounded up and hauled off in trucks. >>
Not really. PETA lead up to the original wild horse acts. If they died after being chased down, it was due to being run to exhaustion by various mechanical (rather than other horses) means, and then overloaded into illegally loaded trucks.
>>Resulting illnesses with both dogs and humans (workers at rendering plants) made it abundantly clear that they are a ‘different’ animal in that respect.LHorses start to decompose immediately. It sort of what lead to the original wild horse acts, as they would die after being chased down, rounded up and hauled off in trucks. Resulting illnesses with both dogs and humans (workers at rendering plants) made it abundantly clear that they are a ‘different’ animal in that respect. >>
Sources, please
>>Actually, it is Belgium that has developed a breed of horse specifically for human consumption.>>
Actually, they use draft horse breeds which in todays world have no other purpose.
>>On the distinct breed that is how the ’specific’ breeds come about, repeat interbreeding to make distinct characteristics>>
A breed is not a species.
>>- Mustangs are small, hardy, short sprinters but endurance that is virtually unmatchable>>
Actually matched all the time by the Arabian breed. Have you ever heard of the Tevis Cup? Won by Arabians about 95% of the time. Hildalgo? Bunch of Baloney. In any case, the horse they used was a modern Paint - a QH with a fancy color - that wouldn’t last for 3 days in a race like that.
>>and they tend to the earth tones of browns, blacks and grey shades.>>
Due to the fact that the only other color is Chestnut, which is a recessive gene, so of course blacks, browns and greys are more common. Oh yeah - and patterned horses. But that would entail a discussion of various other color genetics.
>> On the BLM, yepper for $125ish you too can own a piece of American history on the hoof. Just like the ponies from Chincoteague - they thin that herd to and sell a few each year. Has to be done or inbreeding would destroy them.>>
It’s not the inbreeding - that strengthens them for the conditions in which they exist. It’s the fact that they overgraze their range and then starve to death. That isn’t totally bad - it’s nature’s way of selection - but most people in this country find nature itself fairly unacceptable in her methods.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:03 pm
If the AlQaeda wins, the dogs will eat whoever is left of us and them after we eat all the cats and dogs and people we can catch.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:15 pm
“Haram”
Good name.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
Suek, biology might not be my strong suit - but horses are Equestrian Science (in college)and my life until marriage - taking care of them, studying them and learning about them. Have the ’sources’ that horses do react differently upon death (decompose, breakdown, whatever). I do have to admit that it’s been a few years - but there are very significant differences - which is why they haven’t been used for food as have goats, pigs, cows and sheep.
Yes, overgrazing is one of the reasons for removing the Chincoteague island ponies but any good breeder knows, you cull out the weak, sick and poor specimens, add a few from another herd and that helps the herd - not weaken it. Having said that, it still stands that biology with horse breeding wins at 90% compared with a weaker 75% for human interventions/assistance.
Yes, as I admitted - horses tend to fall into the pet catagory and some of the main activists who lead the charge against horse for food and the wild horse acts of decades ago might be PETA people in waiting - but there still are differences.
Just as a number of societies refuse to eat pigs because they are scavengers and will eat anything or those who see corn strictly as an animal feed. I also believe that I mentioned that - as in personal preferences.
September 11th, 2006 at 8:54 pm
>>…which is why they haven’t been used for food as have goats, pigs, cows and sheep.>>
Except in Europe. Which kind of contradicts this particular hypothesis.
If what you say is true and horses are not eaten by humans, then why would it be necessary to write a law prohibiting the slaughter of horses intended for human consumption?
Unless you’re saying that the French are not human….
Hmmmm. Have to consider that one…!
September 12th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Except in Europe, where? I’ve lived there and on the whole I did not see a rampent horse consumption. Neither did my other family members who have lived & visited even more of the World/Europe. Perhaps the change, you are refering to, is due to the influx in Europe of immigrants? You can go anywhere and find a ‘different’ version of what is food, what isn’t. Dogs, cats, insects, lambs eyes whatever. It does not mean that the general population eats that particular food.
From those who I know who have eaten horse another reason for it’s low standing on the meat chart is that it is stringy and tough.
Never said it wasn’t eaten by humans, more my posts were that like pigs - unless extreme care is taken (with horses during slaughter, with pigs during cooking) - health issues ensue. And those health issues are part of the reason horse isn’t eaten as commonly as other meats. And yes, we now have much better medical, food prep, cooking and eating situations, which might just be why there is in increase in horse consumption (even if I haven’t seen or heard of it - I will give you that there might just be a rise in it somewhere).
So if you want to eat horse - bon apetit!
As for me - I’ll stick with deer and bison - it’s healthier.