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		<title>By: eaglewingz08</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146759</link>
		<dc:creator>eaglewingz08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nonsense these environmental propagandists put out is amazing. So if the gravity and the rotation changes, maybe that will shift the planet enough so that global warming stops and the planet starts to cool again, and so we need do nothing because the world will take care of itself. (If the environazis can claim their speculation is fact, so can I).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nonsense these environmental propagandists put out is amazing. So if the gravity and the rotation changes, maybe that will shift the planet enough so that global warming stops and the planet starts to cool again, and so we need do nothing because the world will take care of itself. (If the environazis can claim their speculation is fact, so can I).</p>
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		<title>By: U NO HOO</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146750</link>
		<dc:creator>U NO HOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of how some people calculate their car gas mileage, they use just over half a tank, say half a tank, a tank is 17 and a half gallons, say 17, half of 17 is 8.5, say 8, they went 155 miles, say 160 to make it easy, voila, 20 miles per gallon, Excellent!  Way better than the sticker that says 14.

If I didn&#039;t flunk the LSAT I&#039;d be President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of how some people calculate their car gas mileage, they use just over half a tank, say half a tank, a tank is 17 and a half gallons, say 17, half of 17 is 8.5, say 8, they went 155 miles, say 160 to make it easy, voila, 20 miles per gallon, Excellent!  Way better than the sticker that says 14.</p>
<p>If I didn&#8217;t flunk the LSAT I&#8217;d be President.</p>
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		<title>By: Odie44</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146742</link>
		<dc:creator>Odie44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew, it was a close one for me and the wife.

But after using a different computer model, it looks like we will be making $372,987 more this year. We can&#039;t wait to join that other family on a cruise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew, it was a close one for me and the wife.</p>
<p>But after using a different computer model, it looks like we will be making $372,987 more this year. We can&#8217;t wait to join that other family on a cruise!</p>
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		<title>By: Confucius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146732</link>
		<dc:creator>Confucius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better yet, plant Rosie O&#039;Donnell on the South Pole.  Fix that whole gravitational problem lickety-split.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better yet, plant Rosie O&#8217;Donnell on the South Pole.  Fix that whole gravitational problem lickety-split.</p>
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		<title>By: BannedbytheTaliban</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146726</link>
		<dc:creator>BannedbytheTaliban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everytime I read about global warming associated sea level rise all I hear is that old George Strait song &quot;I&#039;ve got some...Ocean front property in Arizona...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everytime I read about global warming associated sea level rise all I hear is that old George Strait song &#8220;I&#8217;ve got some&#8230;Ocean front property in Arizona&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146719</link>
		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 10:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ice is allready in the water. Just because it reorganizes, does not mean that the water will rise. More fishies with clean water. The snow and rain causes the water to rise. We&#039;ve had flooding, and the water has risen. duh. I&#039;m glad. We needed the water. What goes up, must come down. Recycled water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ice is allready in the water. Just because it reorganizes, does not mean that the water will rise. More fishies with clean water. The snow and rain causes the water to rise. We&#8217;ve had flooding, and the water has risen. duh. I&#8217;m glad. We needed the water. What goes up, must come down. Recycled water.</p>
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		<title>By: MinnesotaRush</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146698</link>
		<dc:creator>MinnesotaRush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where the heck is that darned &quot;Chicken Little&quot; when ya&#039; need &#039;em???

There goes that &quot;x feet above/below sea level&quot; thing they been using (except New Orleans) for what .. centuries?!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where the heck is that darned &#8220;Chicken Little&#8221; when ya&#8217; need &#8216;em???</p>
<p>There goes that &#8220;x feet above/below sea level&#8221; thing they been using (except New Orleans) for what .. centuries?!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel1961</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146696</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonel1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Sea Gods angry!&#039; is absolutely stolen from of Iowahawk...  Thanks, anyway!  lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Sea Gods angry!&#8217; is absolutely stolen from of Iowahawk&#8230;  Thanks, anyway!  lol</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146695</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computer models that can be made to produce any information the author wants.

The bigger danger to humanity is that eventually glaciers will return and cover Europe and most of North America.

At least that one is based on the known climate pattern for the last 1 million years or so.

(PS:  don&#039;t tell the libstards.   They will want an iceberg tax by noon.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computer models that can be made to produce any information the author wants.</p>
<p>The bigger danger to humanity is that eventually glaciers will return and cover Europe and most of North America.</p>
<p>At least that one is based on the known climate pattern for the last 1 million years or so.</p>
<p>(PS:  don&#8217;t tell the libstards.   They will want an iceberg tax by noon.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dangerous</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146694</link>
		<dc:creator>Dangerous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just sad.  It was a source of pride while I was studying that my BSc. was at least worth more than a BA in something like interior design.  We learned concrete, tangible facts, and methods for discovering further such in our classes.  And then professional scientists throw that dignity out the window as they keep one-upping each other to see who can take home the most extreme computer model?  Let&#039;s see if I can&#039;t run some numbers for comparison.

Assuming that the sea boundaries did not change, but that the sea level rose 3m, almost 4 percent of the antarctic ice sheet would have to melt.  This is just a quick and dirty calculation, but it does take into account the density difference between water and ice, albeit imperfectly due to the density difference between salt and freshwater.  If you say a 6m increase, it would take almost 8% of the antarctic ice sheet melting.  Something worth noting here, is that this quick little calculation assumes that the boundary between water and land stays in the same place, as though the water was just making a wall offshore, Ten Commandments-style.  Add in the areas being flooded, and the amount of water required to flood them increases correspondingly.  Not a whole, heaping heck-of-a-lot (land is only 30-ish% of the planet&#039;s surface), but it counts.

Now, 4 or 8 percent doesn&#039;t seem like a lot, this is true.  The arctic sea ice can vary by more than this from summer to winter.  The thing worth noting is that the &lt;b&gt;Ant&lt;/b&gt;arctic ice sheet acts inconsistently.  The two sheets, the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the East Antarctic Ice Sheet are different and behave differently.  The WAIS is the smaller (10% or so of the total antarctic ice sheet), and it&#039;s melting.  The EAIS is bigger, and parts of it are gaining mass.  Looking at the numbers, these worst case scenarios seem to be predicting the West Antarctic Ice Sheet will drop off and melt as a whole.  The only problem being, they seem to be nesting an &quot;if&quot; on a &quot;maybe&quot; on a &quot;we don&#039;t know how.&quot;

So, &lt;b&gt;if&lt;/b&gt; the West Antarctic Ice Sheet starts acting in a certain way, it &lt;b&gt;may&lt;/b&gt; reach a tipping point or a point of no return and could break up in an &quot;explosively rapid&quot;(James Hansen) manner, that &lt;b&gt;current computer models do not contain the necessary physics to explain.&lt;/b&gt;

Shout it from the rooftops, we&#039;re all going to drown.

The only consolation I can find is that they actually focus on Antarctic ice, which can have an effect on water level, rather than the arctic ice.  Waiting for arctic ice to change the sea level (not counting greenland and other on-land ice) is like waiting for an ice cube melting in a drink to make the glass overflow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just sad.  It was a source of pride while I was studying that my BSc. was at least worth more than a BA in something like interior design.  We learned concrete, tangible facts, and methods for discovering further such in our classes.  And then professional scientists throw that dignity out the window as they keep one-upping each other to see who can take home the most extreme computer model?  Let&#8217;s see if I can&#8217;t run some numbers for comparison.</p>
<p>Assuming that the sea boundaries did not change, but that the sea level rose 3m, almost 4 percent of the antarctic ice sheet would have to melt.  This is just a quick and dirty calculation, but it does take into account the density difference between water and ice, albeit imperfectly due to the density difference between salt and freshwater.  If you say a 6m increase, it would take almost 8% of the antarctic ice sheet melting.  Something worth noting here, is that this quick little calculation assumes that the boundary between water and land stays in the same place, as though the water was just making a wall offshore, Ten Commandments-style.  Add in the areas being flooded, and the amount of water required to flood them increases correspondingly.  Not a whole, heaping heck-of-a-lot (land is only 30-ish% of the planet&#8217;s surface), but it counts.</p>
<p>Now, 4 or 8 percent doesn&#8217;t seem like a lot, this is true.  The arctic sea ice can vary by more than this from summer to winter.  The thing worth noting is that the <b>Ant</b>arctic ice sheet acts inconsistently.  The two sheets, the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the East Antarctic Ice Sheet are different and behave differently.  The WAIS is the smaller (10% or so of the total antarctic ice sheet), and it&#8217;s melting.  The EAIS is bigger, and parts of it are gaining mass.  Looking at the numbers, these worst case scenarios seem to be predicting the West Antarctic Ice Sheet will drop off and melt as a whole.  The only problem being, they seem to be nesting an &#8220;if&#8221; on a &#8220;maybe&#8221; on a &#8220;we don&#8217;t know how.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, <b>if</b> the West Antarctic Ice Sheet starts acting in a certain way, it <b>may</b> reach a tipping point or a point of no return and could break up in an &#8220;explosively rapid&#8221;(James Hansen) manner, that <b>current computer models do not contain the necessary physics to explain.</b></p>
<p>Shout it from the rooftops, we&#8217;re all going to drown.</p>
<p>The only consolation I can find is that they actually focus on Antarctic ice, which can have an effect on water level, rather than the arctic ice.  Waiting for arctic ice to change the sea level (not counting greenland and other on-land ice) is like waiting for an ice cube melting in a drink to make the glass overflow.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the facts don&#039;t fit the theory, change the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the facts don&#8217;t fit the theory, change the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: locomotivebreath1901</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146684</link>
		<dc:creator>locomotivebreath1901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Computer models must fit the narrative better than reality.&lt;/i&gt;

The New York Times conveniently forgot to mention the current scientific evidence that &lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/17/revealed-antarctic-ice-growing-not-shrinking/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the ice is expanding&lt;/a&gt; in much of Antarctica.

Oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Computer models must fit the narrative better than reality.</i></p>
<p>The New York Times conveniently forgot to mention the current scientific evidence that <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/17/revealed-antarctic-ice-growing-not-shrinking/" rel="nofollow">the ice is expanding</a> in much of Antarctica.</p>
<p>Oops.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146682</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, and I was hoping for LA, San Francisco and New York City to be underwater.  

Just can&#039;t trust those scientists.

I am reminded of the Gilligan&#039;s Island episode when the perfesser thought the island was sinking, only to find out that Gilligan had been moving his measuring stick to re-set his crab-traps.  

Isn&#039;t this kinda the same thing?

I also did some online research and found that the areas that will be most hard-hit by this lesser rise in sea-levels will be the victim-class areas, thus making it Bush&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, and I was hoping for LA, San Francisco and New York City to be underwater.  </p>
<p>Just can&#8217;t trust those scientists.</p>
<p>I am reminded of the Gilligan&#8217;s Island episode when the perfesser thought the island was sinking, only to find out that Gilligan had been moving his measuring stick to re-set his crab-traps.  </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this kinda the same thing?</p>
<p>I also did some online research and found that the areas that will be most hard-hit by this lesser rise in sea-levels will be the victim-class areas, thus making it Bush&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: U NO HOO</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146677</link>
		<dc:creator>U NO HOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Bay of Fundy tourism will be great.</description>
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		<title>By: jobeth</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sea-rise-from-ice-sheet-melt-overblown#comment-146669</link>
		<dc:creator>jobeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!  I&#039;m going to love watching the water rise unevenly!  That&#039;s a sight I don&#039;t think anyone has seen before.  Gonna be interesting! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!  I&#8217;m going to love watching the water rise unevenly!  That&#8217;s a sight I don&#8217;t think anyone has seen before.  Gonna be interesting! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Enthalpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enthalpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My plan is to hide and watch.</description>
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