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Selected News For Oct 24 – Oct 30

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109 Responses to “Selected News For Oct 24 – Oct 30”

  1. canary

    AP: Michelle Obama’s gripe: President’s tennis game Oct 23 2009

    BURBANK, Calif. – What’s President Barack Obama’s most annoying habit?
    Practicing his speeches for hours in front of the bathroom mirror? Talking too much foreign policy at the dinner table?

    No — first lady Michelle Obama said Friday it’s his tennis game. When they play, the president usually wins.

    “He beats me quite often,” she said on NBC’s “The Jay Leno Show,” appearing via satellite hookup from the White House.

    In a brief skit, Leno pushed her to talk about her husband’s flaws. At first, she sarcastically said he has none.
    “He’s perfect,” she quipped.

    It also looks like Bo — the Obamas’ dog — is living like a king. The first lady said the presidential pooch celebrated his first birthday earlier this month with a Rose Garden party.

    Bo, a Portuguese water dog, feasted on a cake shaped like a dog house that was made out of veal.

    “We had a really sweet celebration,” the first lady told Leno. “We had party hats.”

    Leno also wanted to know what she whispers to her husband after his speeches.
    “I usually ask him did he take out the garbage,” she said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....obama_leno

    and another Obama party fit for a king.

    • wardmama4

      “I usually ask him did he take out the garbage,” she said.

      What a load of bs – on so many levels. Neither one of these idiots strike me as someone who has ‘taken out the garbage’ in decades at all. Maybe ever. And the innuendo of double speak is simply immature and snippy.

      These two losers are pieces of work – and such a damn embarrassment to the US – and I thought that the DNC could not go any lower than the idiot from GA or the serial sex offender from Hope.

      Wow combine arrogance, stupidity and the pompous elitism with Chicago style politics and look what you get The Won and the Queen of Mean.

      God Help America.

    • Their dog eats veal? Just wait until PETA gets a hold of that…

    • U NO HOO

      Veal, veal, slowly I turn… and ask, did that calf get to have a first birthday party?

      Just aksing.

      Earth to PETA…

  2. canary

    AP: House health care bill exceeds $1 trillion
    By David Espo Oct 24 2009

    WASHINGTON – Health care legislation taking shape in the House carries a price tag of at least $1 trillion over a decade, significantly higher than the target President Barack Obama has set, congressional officials said Friday

    ~~Democrats have touted an unreleased Congressional Budget Office~~
    estimate of $871 billion in recent days

    ~~The officials who disclosed the details did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss them publicly.~~~

    Some moderate Democrats have expressed reluctance to support a bill as high as $1 trillion.

    Obama also said he would not sign a bill that raised deficits, and the CBO estimates the emerging House bill meets that objective. Officials said the measure would reduce deficits by at least $50 billion over 10 years and perhaps as much as $120 billion.

    Democrats also said the bill would slow the rate of growth of the giant Medicare program from 6.6 percent annually to 5.3 percent.

    “The bill will be paid for over 10 years. It will reduce costs but also will not add a dime to the deficit” in future years, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said at a news conference.

    Still, Obama’s speech provoked enough concern among House Democrats that senior presidential aides were called to a meeting in the Capitol to explain precisely what the president had in mind when he set the $900 billion target.

    The figure of $871 billion “is a coverage number. I think the White House has made that very clear. It is a number about coverage,” Pelosi said

    Linda Douglass, a spokeswoman for the White House, said, “The speaker is working on a plan that meets with the president’s price tag of around $900 billion for health insurance reform and will not add a dime to the deficit.”

    In addition, Pelosi said, “as of Jan. 1, 2010, our legislation will give a 50 percent discount for brand-name drugs to recipients in the donut hole and it will reduce the size of the donut hole by $500.”

    It was unclear… but the internal
    ~disagreement cast doubt on plans to publicly unveil legislation early next week.~

    Democrats hold 60 votes in the Senate, but one, Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., has spoken out strongly against a so-called public option.

    Also opposed is Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, the only Republican this year who has voted for a Democratic-drafted health care bill in committee. As an alternative, she favors allowing the government to step in only if there is insufficient competition in the private insurance industry.

    Eds: Associated Press writers Chuck Babington, Laurie Kellman and Erica Werner .
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....hlYWx0aGM-

    How does Pelosi plan to reduce the size of her “donut hole” to $500.? deduct 500 from 0? And Snowe’s idea is one big loop hole. How come no one is doing anything about Pelosi. If she’s not lying, then she is insane, either way our elected officials are doing nothing.

    • proreason

      If they say $1 trillion, it will be at least $5 trillion.

    • U NO HOO

      Social Security Medicare costs ~$100 per month. 45 million times $100 times 12 months is tah dah $54,000,000,000 per year. Doesn’t cover hospital or drugs. And we paid a tax all our working life.

      Our private COBRA premium was $350 per month per person. Three and a half times 54 billion is 189,000,000,000 or 2 trillion over ten years. And I aint smart enough to get elected..

      So, we can’t afford more socialism.

      We have run out of places to borrow money.

      PS, can we see Obama’s and Pelosi’s and Reid’s college transcripts of their Economic 1 and 2 course grades?

      Just asking.

      Obama, Pelosi, Reid, are you reading this?

  3. canary

    Clunkers leads to backlog at recycling yards
    By Ken Thomas Oct 24 2009

    WASHINGTON – Cash for Clunkers

    Under the federal trade-in program, the cars are required to be crushed or shredded within six months of the date the vehicle is transferred from the dealership. Recyclers say the deadline — even a few months away — will be difficult to meet

    “True recycling is using something to its fullest potential and then recycling it over again by making it into steel and sending it out to become another engine or transmission or car,” said Jeff Cantor, an auto recycler in Candia, N.H. “We’re breaking that circle here by crushing good quality parts. We can’t process them quick enough in six months.”

    Congress tripled the size of its original $1 billion price tag because of the program’s popularity.

    The American Recyclers Association, a trade group representing auto recyclers, said the six-month deadline to crush the vehicles was developed in line with the initial $1 billion program but never took into account the additional vehicles sold when the program was expanded.

    The association met with the Transportation Department in late September seeking an additional six months to recycle the cars.

    In metropolitan Los Angeles, auto recycler Nathan Adlen is pushing to meet the deadline. “At times, we were having to stack cars on top of cars —

    Most of the vehicles on their 26 acre lot go into a self-service yard, letting customers find the used parts they need for their vehicles.

    but many vehicles have gone to the crusher earlier than normal because of the influx.

    Each vehicle needs to be drained of oil, antifreeze and other fluids and then properly recycled.

    “If it’s about recycling, the thing to do is to give us another six months and let us do them the correct way each time,” he said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....tlcnNsZWFk

    Great project for the Obama’s & Van Jones (still on federal payrol). Pitching in and getting their hands dirty might salvage their image.

    • wardmama4

      I know how to fix this into a win-win for all – give ‘em to the homeless! The homeless get cheap homes and the junkyards don’t have to grind up usefull cars.

      What a bunch of losers we have in charge right now.

      Damn ACORN for electing the idiot of the century (now I get what they all meant about historical) as POTUS.

  4. canary

    Guardian.co.uk: US gives Shell green light for offshore oil drilling in the Arctic Conservationists say the decision by the Obama administration to allow drilling in the Beaufort Sea repeats Bush era mistakes

    Ed Pilkington in Anchorage, Alaska guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 20 October 2009

    Conservation groups based in Alaska have accused the Obama administration of repeating the mistakes of George Bush after it gave the conditional go-ahead for Shell to begin drilling offshore for oil and natural gas in the environmentally sensitive Beaufort Sea.

    The Minerals Management Service, part of the federal Interior Department, yesterday gave Shell the green light to begin exploratory wells off the north coast of Alaska in an Arctic area that is home to large numbers of endangered…. The permission would run from July to October next year, though Shell has promised to suspend operations from its drill ship from late August when local Inuit people embark on subsistence hunting.

    Environmentalists condemned the decision to allow drilling, saying it would generate industrial levels of noise in the water and pollute both the air and surrounding water. Rebecca Noblin, an Alaskan specialist with the conservation group the Centre for Biological Diversity, said: “We’re disappointed to see the Obama administration taking decisions that will threaten the Arctic. It might as well have been the Bush administration.”

    Whit Sheard, the Alaskan expert with the environmental group Pacific Environment, accused the US Interior Department of “again trying to implement an overly aggressive Bush-era drilling plan in one of the riskiest areas on the planet to drill”.

    The question of offshore oil drilling in the Arctic was one of the controversial environmental issues that confronted the Bush administration. Its permission for exploration in the Beaufort Sea, widely condemned by environmentalists, was struck down last year by a federal court

    There are also fears that any drilling could lead to oil spills which would be impossible to clean up amid the Arctic’s broken sea ice.

    The oil company’s head in Alaska, Pete Slaiby, said objections had been taken into account.

    “We sincerely believe this exploration plan addresses concerns we have heard in the North Slope communities which have resulted in the programmes being adjusted accordingly,” he said.

    Oil and gas companies · Oil · Royal Dutch Shell · Gas
    World news

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/envi.....ing-arctic

    Prehaps this was posted and I missed it. I came across it on a site that represents the U.S. government. I found more Obama green orgs too. And the Bristish were saying that the Arctic would be gone in 10(?) years from global warming?

    Watching the Democratic campaigns I recall Obama saying that we should be getting oil from Iraq, for aiding them. I thought how hypocritical, as for 8 years everyone said
    Bush was after Iraq’s oil, which never happened. Our military were even paying top dollar for gas in Iraq.
    And then I recall Obama always does the opposite of whatever he says he will do.
    gas in Iraq. His life-long connections, obsession with writing of Indonesia and the enormous amount of oil they have. And I have read from religious scholars that Israel is rich in shale and oil down under, “black gold”. Mexico has huge areas of shale, in areas that are uninhabitated. (It’s weak and breakable) yet Obama is even against using shale for oil. Bowing to Saudi Arabia (wrote he was speaking the language within his first 6 monthes in Indonesia, but he is such a liar). Gripped and gripped about his mother making him get up at 4:00 am to teach him English, and take correspondance courses from America, and Obama claims his mother, was concerned that “power” was overtaking him, and he was losing his values, to send him back to the U.S. He wrote that the idea of not having to learn English made the idea okay. Until, he got there. His only joyous years were in Indonesia where he spent 4 monthes to write when he had writers block. And then there was Hilary’s first trip on the way to China, a secretive stop at Indonesia (where she faced muslim protestors) and told them, Obama sent her to give the message, that he would be visiting soon. Which we recently learned. His condemning the U.S. in the Audacity of Hope that Indonesia hates the U.S. His reasons are irrational, and he wrote that most of what he learned was from his mother at that. And the most violatile she became was when she did her “they are not my people”, (white Americans) and “they” are not his people. Course, he had to appoint some, that knew politics. He’s kept his army working for him, that we pay for.

  5. canary

    Dear President Obama:

    I am dismayed by your seeming indecision regarding the way ahead in Afghanistan. I fully appreciate the importance of thorough deliberation on a matter of such importance but, at some point, open-ended deliberation evolves into hesitation and procrastination.

    Stalled decision-making creates a dilemma for our allies, who are trying to gauge our long-term intentions in the region prior to committing their own forces and other resources.

    …I urge you in the strongest terms to move ahead with the “jump” in forces and other resources, as requested by General McChrystal. You handpicked him to carry out this complex task and lead our troops in Afghanistan, and I applaud you for that – he is the right person for the job. The counterinsurgency strategy you announced in March is the right one and, when put to use thus far in Afghanistan, it has proven effective. I ask you to now heed General McChrystal’s advice to stick with that strategy and give him what he needs to win….

    While I recognize the importance of Afghanistan’s coming run-off elections and the need to ensure the legitimacy of its government, our national security decisions should never be contingent on such events, which are beyond our control….

    In the bigger picture, I am concerned that indecision may be seen by our enemies – and not just those in Afghanistan – as a lack of U.S. national resolve. This could potentially put Americans in unnecessary danger. History instructs that, when our enemies perceive a lack of U.S. national resolve, they sometimes act on it.

    ….I worry that your administration considers the Afghanistan mission merely an unwanted distraction from your sweeping domestic “change” agenda. To the contrary, Afghanistan is now the central front in the Global War on Terror, and our national security depends on winning there.

    It is past time for your administration to dispense with talk of “inheriting” problems –
    both foreign and domestic – from your predecessor. Instead, I urge you to commit your administration to success in Afghanistan and act decisively to that end. The United States is in the lead in Afghanistan; as our commander-in-chief, I urge you to take ownership of this mission.

    Sincerely,

    JOHN CORNYN
    United States Senator

    http://highplainsobserver.com/.....tail=11409

    • Liberals Demise

      High time someone with a full set stated the obvious and took this regime to task. We will see if dingle”Barry” places this letter in the ‘Later” basket on his desk or the trash can beside it.

    • wardmama4

      I like John Bolton’s take on this – Obama does not have a foreign policy. Diplomacy is not a policy, it is only a technique.

      And it’s going to get us killed because unlike anyone before him (although Carter came closest) I don’t think that being of muslim influence – Obama has the guts to do what needs to be done in that region of the world. You know, the one that is attempting to wipe Israel off the map and destroy the Great Satan.

  6. Bill Clinton was distracted too.

    Black Hawk Down 16 years ago this Month.

    People remember there was a GREEN President in the White House back in 1993, with no Military Background either.

    We are presently in two theaters Iraq and Afghanistan. What could go wrong with the current President ignoring precedent.

    While the White House goes to War with a News Network. We have Americans in Harms way, waiting for him to make a decision on Troop deployment build up in Afghanistan.

    Lest we forget, we have people fighting for us on the front lines of Afghanistan. It was later determined that Al Qaeda and Bin Laden, trained and funded the people who shot the Black Hawks Down, 3 Oct 1993 Mogadishu.

    What is the President waiting for? An International Incident to give him political cover..al la Joe Biden. Gird Your Loins?

    http://youhavetobethistalltogo.....tober.html

  7. Confucius

    A fun piece of reverse racism (also known as regular racism) from the guardian.co.uk:

    A queen for today

    Lola Adesioye
    Thursday 22 October 2009

    Last week, 22-year-old Nikole Churchill was crowned the homecoming queen at Hampton University, one of America’s historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs). A simple matter, one might think. However, this particular choice has resulted in controversy, a letter to Barack Obama and countless blog posts, newspaper column inches and hours of TV coverage. The issue: Nikole Churchill is white.

    As the first non-black homecoming queen at Hampton, Churchill has made history. However, not everyone on campus sees it that way. In fact, her win over nine black contestants has divided Hamptonian students and sparked debate among people outside of the university. …

    Churchill – who grew up in Hawaii and has a white mother and Asian father – expressed her dismay that her victory had not been widely accepted. …

    The fact that this has become an issue is, indeed, dismaying, and the hypocrisy on display by those opposed to her win is startling, particularly in light of Obama’s presidency, an international first of its kind. Miss Kentucky State University, also white, faced similar opposition when she won her title at that HBCU earlier this year.

    HBCUs – started because of segregation and often, historically, some of the only places where black people could receive a college education – have long been open to white students. Non-black students, teachers and other staff are to be found in decent proportions, and such institutions have been actively recruiting increasing numbers of non-black students since the 1980s. …

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm.....blockquote

  8. Confucius

    Another fun piece on Hampton University’s reverse racism. This time from The Times:

    Hampton University’s first white Homecoming Queen suffers ‘racism’

    Giles Whittell
    October 19, 2009

    Cultural history will be made tonight in a college town in southern Virginia when a lissome 22-year-old student in a tiara hosts a car show and singing contest modelled on American Idol. Nikole Churchill will look good, and on the evidence of the past few days will handle the microphone with aplomb.

    However, she will have to be ready for hecklers. She is the first non-black Homecoming Queen in her university’s history and not everyone is happy that she won the title. Her victory this month triggered a beauty pageant walkout and veiled accusations of black racism from the aggrieved new Miss Hampton University.

    Hampton University, at the mouth of Chesapeake Bay, is one of more than 80 historically black colleges in the US whose student populations are only gradually coming to reflect the diversity they exist to promote, largely because non-blacks have been slow to apply to them. …

    The other nine contestants were black. Two of them wore scowls rather than smiles for the traditional portraits of winner and runners-up and as the pictures were being taken, several dozen spectators walked out of the university’s main auditorium. The following day Ms Churchill was heckled at a college football game and a previous Miss Hampton University said she was “very shocked” there was a white winner. “We’ve never had one before,” Patrece Parson said.

    She said she was honoured to have been nicknamed “Lil Obama”, and invited the President to visit the university to help to spread some “aloha spirit” around the campus. Mr Obama has not responded, but fellow students have, bridling at the notion that Ms Churchill and the President have something in common. Brittany Riddock, a second-year student, told The Washington Post there was “no comparison between a black man becoming President and a white woman winning a beauty pageant at a black school”.

    The president of the university’s student body summoned Ms Churchill to explain herself onstage at a special meeting in the student centre theatre. She took the opportunity to apologise and thank the majority of students for their support. …

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....880090.ece

    This article doesn’t state explicity, but Ms. Churchill is half-white and half-Asian. Her mother is white and from Hawaii; her father is Asian and from Guam.

    So to summarize,

    a. half black + half white = black
    b. half yellow + half white = white
    c. a > b
    d. a homecoming queen has no business writing a letter to the President
    e. Hampton University sucks

  9. From an investigative CBS News:

    Swine Flu Cases Overestimated?
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....toriesArea

    CBS News Exclusive: Study Of State Results Finds H1N1 Not As Prevalent As Feared
    By Sharyl Attkisson

    (CBS) If you’ve been diagnosed “probable” or “presumed” 2009 H1N1 or “swine flu” in recent months, you may be surprised to know this: odds are you didn’t have H1N1 flu.

    In fact, you probably didn’t have flu at all. That’s according to state-by-state test results obtained in a three-month-long CBS News investigation.

    The ramifications of this finding are important. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Britain’s National Health Service, once you have H1N1 flu, you’re immune from future outbreaks of the same virus. Those who think they’ve had H1N1 flu — but haven’t — might mistakenly presume they’re immune. As a result, they might skip taking a vaccine that could help them, and expose themselves to others with H1N1 flu under the mistaken belief they won’t catch it. Parents might not keep sick children home from school, mistakenly believing they’ve already had H1N1 flu.

    Why the uncertainty about who has and who hasn’t had H1N1 flu?

    In late July, the CDC abruptly advised states to stop testing for H1N1 flu, and stopped counting individual cases. The rationale given for the CDC guidance to forego testing and tracking individual cases was: why waste resources testing for H1N1 flu when the government has already confirmed there’s an epidemic?

    Some public health officials privately disagreed with the decision to stop testing and counting, telling CBS News that continued tracking of this new and possibly changing virus was important because H1N1 has a different epidemiology, affects younger people more than seasonal flu and has been shown to have a higher case fatality rate than other flu virus strains.

    CBS News learned that the decision to stop counting H1N1 flu cases was made so hastily that states weren’t given the opportunity to provide input. Instead, on July 24, the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists, CSTE, issued the following notice to state public health officials on behalf of the CDC:

    “Attached are the Q&As that will be posted on the CDC website tomorrow explaining why CDC is no longer reporting case counts for novel H1N1. CDC would have liked to have run these by you for input but unfortunately there was not enough time before these needed to be posted (emphasis added).”

    When CDC did not provide us with the material, we filed a Freedom of Information request with the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). More than two months later, the request has not been fulfilled. We also asked CDC for state-by-state test results prior to halting of testing and tracking, but CDC was again, initially, unresponsive.

    While we waited for CDC to provide the data, which it eventually did, we asked all 50 states for their statistics on state lab-confirmed H1N1 prior to the halt of individual testing and counting in July. The results reveal a pattern that surprised a number of health care professionals we consulted. The vast majority of cases were negative for H1N1 as well as seasonal flu, despite the fact that many states were specifically testing patients deemed to be most likely to have H1N1 flu, based on symptoms and risk factors, such as travel to Mexico.

    It’s unknown what patients who tested negative for flu were actually afflicted with since the illness was not otherwise determined. Health experts say it’s assumed the patients had some sort of cold or upper respiratory infection that is just not influenza.

    With most cases diagnosed solely on symptoms and risk factors, the H1N1 flu epidemic may seem worse than it is. For example, on Sept. 22, this alarming headline came from Georgetown University in Washington D.C.: “H1N1 Flu Infects Over 250 Georgetown Students.”

    And now we have a declared “state of emergency..”

    Based on what evidence? And what powers does this grant the feds that they did not have? And is this perhaps merely a test to see how we might repsond to a suspension of “certain rules?”

    • wardmama4

      And yet, and yet Barry the MD just declared a state of emergency based on 1000 US deaths/5000 World wide so that the damn H1N1 vaccine can be forced upon all of us. You know, the 6 out of 10 Americans who are refusing to fall in line and be good little Obamabots in Obamaland and bow down before the Obama King and take our Obamacare and love it.

      btw, in another liberal attempt (colluded with Big Pharma) – Gardisil does not work for what it’s being hyped for (preventing cancer) – and thus is a waste of time and money – and oh btw, if you give it to a girl before puberty – you have to give the whole series (3 shots) again. (American Thinker article)

      Come on class – say it out loud – SCAM.

      All in the name of OBAMACARE.

    • Liberals Demise

      The way I see the future, dingle”Barrys’” presidential library will consist of 3 Waste Management dumpsters end to end!

  10. canary

    AP: Obama declares swine flu a national emergency
    by PHILIP ELLIOTT Oct 25 2009

    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama declared the swine flu outbreak a national emergency, giving his health chief the power to let hospitals move emergency rooms offsite to speed treatment and protect noninfected patients.

    The declaration, signed Friday night and announced Saturday, comes with the disease more prevalent than ever in the country
    … 120 million doses of the vaccine could be available by mid-October.

    Health authorities say more than 1,000 people in the United States, including almost 100 children, have died from the strain of flu known as H1N1, and 46 states have widespread flu activity. So far only 11 million doses have gone out…according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials.

    Administration officials said the declaration was a pre-emptive move designed to make decisions easier when they need to be made. Officials said the move was not in response to any single development.

    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius now has authority to bypass federal rules when opening alternative care sites, such as offsite hospital centers at schools or community centers if hospitals seek permission.

    Hospitals could modify patient rules — for example, requiring them to give less information during a hectic time —

    It also addresses a financial question for hospitals — reimbursement for treating people at sites not typically approved.

    The national emergency declaration was the second of two steps needed to give Sebelius extraordinary powers during a crisis.

    On April 26, the administration declared swine flu a public health emergency,
    At the time, there were 20 confirmed cases in the U.S. of people recovering easily.

    “As a nation, we have prepared at all levels of government, and as individuals and communities, taking unprecedented steps to counter the emerging pandemic,” Obama wrote in Saturday’s declaration.

    He said the pandemic keeps evolving,

    The flu virus has to be grown in chicken eggs, and the yield hasn’t been as high as was initially hoped, officials have said.

    “Many millions” of Americans have had swine flu so far, according to an estimate that CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden gave Friday.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....yZQ–

    • Millions have had it? Yet doctors aren’t testing for it … how can any health care professional make that kind of sweeping statement and have it accepted as fact?
      Oh I know, it’s because our “media watchdogs” are now “media lapdogs” and scarf up whatever the White House and anyone in government now says is fact, without proof of fact. And because most journalists have had very little in the way of college-level science/biology classes, they aren’t smart enough to ask the right questions.

    • The way Lord Barry sounds, we might have to break out the Zombie Survival Kits sometime soon..

      It also addresses a financial question for hospitals — reimbursement for treating people at sites not typically approved.

      Ah well, it’s nice to see they’re not wasting a crisis.

    • canary

      caligirl, can’t see your photo too well. What kind of horse do you have. we have alot in common. But, no longer have any. snif snif. They are medicine for the soul.

    • wardmama4

      But, but caligirl – that’s how Afrika does AIDS testing – if you come in with certain symptoms they are omipotent and declare you have AIDS (without wasting money on those pesky little tests). All it is, is a scam for $$$$ and to instill control via fear onto the sheeple. And of course the additional requisite control when The Master of the Universe (Obama) rules the World and tells everyone not him and his minions exactly how to live each and every second of each and every day. Or you won’t get The Mark to be able to trade, get an education, housing or even food.

      Read the book – Good always wins but damn the Devil for keeping minions idiots to keep trying.

  11. DW

    I live in an area that was hit pretty hard with this flu when it became a problem last summer. We’ve been expecting a serious rekindle ever since the kids went back to school, but I’ve yet to hear of a single case of it.

    I can’t help but wonder if this “national emergency” isn’t meant to draw attention from some White House skullduggery going on, that might otherwise be dragged into the light of day.
    (but then again, I’m cynical like that… :-)

    • I’ve had plenty of friends who have been ill—none of them confirmed as H1N1. All were diagnosed as “strep throat” or a really bad cold (again, with no confirming blood tests). I think this “national emergency” is more of a regional emergency and yes, times to get everyone’s attention off of the big mistake the U.S. is about to make as far as health care …

      I’m not going to get the H1N1 vaccine. Got my regular one, I have concerns about how this one is being produced and packaged. Supposedly it’s been around here in school-aged kids, but I’ve met no one who had been diagnosed with H1N1.

    • Confucius

      I’m not getting the H1N1 vaccine either. I’m not in a high-risk group and would rather not take a brand new vaccine. Besides, there is a good chance it’s made from 50% Hope, 50% Change and 0% science.

      It is odd that all the respiratory illnesses going around are being attributed to swine flu. Flu season (of any kind) is typically from November to March.

      Typically, URI’s (a.k.a. head colds) are more prevalent this time of the year.

  12. canary

    Cali, hearing the same thing. Well, it will hurt the U.S. travel and tourist industry, but won’t stop the illegals.

    I’m waiting to see Obama wearing a white coat soon, as he pushes his health care, and makes people, think, they depend on him. This is the U.S.A.

    Fear-monger Obama keeps referring it to as a pandemic like it’s the black plague. I thinnk he’s trying to look like Obama & Mexico made such a big deal over it to get the 200+million dollars over there when the illegal Mexicans were slaughtering and decapitating people on our borders, ignoring Bush’s recent bill to give the states aid. Revenge as most didn’t vote for BHO.
    Remember Hillary and Mexico saying it was America’s fault, and lying that U.S. guns were in Mexico.

    We knew the swine flu couldn’t be serious, when the Obombies wouldn’t allow our border agents at check points speaking to drivers, and routine looks into their cars, were not allowed to wear masks !!!

    That’s what I keep hearing, that no testing is being done. Last article I read on 8 children dying from H1N1 all had pneumonia. I read one death so far “they believed” was based on the H1N1 swine flu alone.

    H1N1 is a mild flu with mild symptoms according to medical doctors. Low fever, achy,
    maybe a cough. Many who had the normal flu shot, are getting some type flu. Doctor’s are telling people, just keep them at home.

    It does no good to ask someone, how do you know it’s the H1N1 if you didn’t have a test done. They answer, because of the symptoms.
    they still don’t test. I heard the doctors are telling people not to even take Tamaflu (sp?) to reduce the flu symptoms. They say don’t take the Tamaflu (?) which is to reduce flu symptoms. I am so sick of people saying they or their family have swine flu, when they have not been tested.
    Strep is throat starts going around in the fall, kids drinking after each other.
    The thing they should be educating the public on is the different tricky strains of pneumonia. One strain is contagious and takes x-rays to confirm. Doctor’s need to
    explain, if a child’s temperature goes up, labored breathing, sore throat to come in. Everyone keeps saying the doctors just say stay home til your better.
    It’s mild enough that all the kids are going to school sick. Our school added more sick days allowed because of the swine flu. But, no one really knows if they have it.
    Now here’s two articles that really don’t educate people, but terrorize people.

    I heard two doctors on FOX debate on whether or not to take the swine flu vacination. The one obsessed doctor, was like it can keep you from missing work days, compared to the other doctor saying it hasn’t been tested, and China is one of the countries developing it.
    Has anyone heard one reason why pregnant women should risk an untested vaccine? They are prone during a certain period? Is there a period during the pregnancy they should not take the vaccine.

    • wardmama4

      You notice that who is dying of this disease is rarely mentioned – I’ve heard a couple of times that the highest proportion of those dying are children aged 11 to 24 – Hey smartest people on the planet – that leaves me out.

      But then who and where are these children located? Around here they are touting high schools and colleges as the worst hit – Once again, smartest people on the planet – that leaves me out.

      And aren’t children (most especially in that age group) not the most hygienic after (pardon me) restroom trips which just might be a great variable factor in the spread of this disease? And isn’t this age group also the most close contact/sharing of all age groups, which also might be a great variable factor? And the final one – they are also the age group which really doesn’t eat the best (think french fries, pizza and soda) – So smartest people on the planet – give me the hard, consistent factors that lead to death from H1N1 – before forcing me to take a brand new vaccine.

      I am not a Obamabot (i.e. I need cold hard facts, not emo whine to make a medical decision , I do not go into public every single day, I don’t mingle long with people when I am out, nor do I visit anyone other than family. Thus I think that my hard, consistent factors are fairly low for contracting any stupid disease Barry the MD can use to instill fear in the sheeple to attempt to pass his bogus Obamacare bill.

  13. canary

    Current as of: Sunday – 25 October 2009 GMT
    The Current Time is: 4:38 GMT

    MONITOR STATUS: INACTIVE

    ASI Group activated the World Watch Monitor on 25 April 2009 in response to the increasing situation regarding the H1N1 swine flu outbreaks.

    All times posted are UTC / GMT / Zulu-time (1800z:)

    As of 11 May 2009, ASI Group has closed the World Watch Monitor track of the Swine Flu / H1N1 virus. While reports continue to emerge regarding confirmed cases and travel restriction mergers, the volume of reports has slowed considerably and the WHO’s public remarks, while continuing to express concern, have indicated there are no plans to raise the pandemic level. ASI will continue to provide updates in our Hot Spots and World Update releases as they emerge, and impact summaries will be contained within the World Watch country files. Should the situation escalate again, including the raising of the pandemic level, ASI will re-activate the Monitor.

    http://monitor.asigroup.com/mo.....erType=NS6

    I was looking for the article and pic of our border agents not allowed to wear masks an found this. It’s pretty long detailed.
    I THINK QUACK OBAMA IS BORED AND PLAYING MAKE-BELIEVE HE’S THE SAVIOR

    • canary

      UH OH….Obama must be ready to do something real bad, while the stupid News rides this to the ground. Reporters will be busy searching for tents set up,
      Oboma will probably pass out white coats to his union thugs and acorn nuts, and set up a tent on the WH lawn…. After they sterilize and clean up from the 100 D.C. children health party, children laughing, breathing hard, sweating, sharing hoola hoops, handling jump ropes. None wore masks.

  14. canary

    Capitol Hill: Congress divided over whether they will be receiving the swine flu vaccine By Jordy Yager 10/23/09

    Democratic and Republican lawmakers cannot agree on whether to get the swine flu vaccine even after this week’s first reported case of a member of Congress catching the illness.

    Some, like Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), are choosing not to get vaccinated, at least not immediately. Others, like Rep. Nydia Velazquez (D-N.Y.), want it but can’t get it. She tried, but is not among the vulnerable categories that have first call on limited supplies.

    The debate on Capitol Hill mirrors one taking place all across the country, as a new Washington Post/ABC News poll shows a majority of Americans increasingly worried that they or a member of their family will contract the H1N1 virus but also that six in 10 are not planning to get the vaccine.

    The Office of the Attending Physician (OAP) began vaccinating the most vulnerable members and staffers this week as instances of swine flu spread throughout the campus from House pages to lawmakers. Members are not given preferential treatment.

    Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) this week was the first lawmaker to admit to having swine flu.

    His announcement came as 10 House pages, who have daily interaction with members, also reported having flu-like symptoms.

    That hasn’t rattled Boehner, who said he wasn’t too concerned about getting vaccinated and that neither he nor his family had shown any symptoms.

    While Walden is officially the first member to contract the virus, Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.) suspects he may have already had the swine flu.

    Taylor said for several weeks last month he suffered from all the symptoms — fever, low energy and a bad cough.

    Shortly after the U.S. began to report instances of people infected with the swine flu in the spring, the office of the Architect of the Capitol (AoC) oversaw the installation of nearly 400 hand-sanitizer stations throughout the Capitol complex to “prevent the spread of germs.” It is not planning to buy any more.

    “We continue to assess the need for additional hand-sanitizing stations, and maintain those now in service, but are not planning to purchase large quantities of new stations at this time,” said Eva Malecki, spokeswoman for the AoC.

    Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said he hasn’t taken many precautions to getting the virus, other than the occasional squirt of hand sanitizer.

    “I pay a little more attention to those machines as I go by them, but other than that, no,” he said, adding that he wasn’t planning on getting vaccinated.

    House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) said he got the seasonal flu shot but was not too concerned about getting the H1N1 vaccine. He said he was feeling poorly recently and was slightly concerned that it could be flu-related, but his doctor said it was just a bad cold.

    . Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.) said he’s also been advocating to everyone to wash their hands as much as possible, especially his colleagues who, as public figures, shake the hands of a lot of people every month.

    “My doctor told me years ago, if you shake so many hands, wash your hands. But other than that I’m not doing a whole lot. I’m still flying on airplanes,” he said, adding that he hasn’t started shaking hands any less than usual.

    Rep. John Boccieri (D-Ohio) said he knows people in his district who have gotten the virus but that he’s still got a clean bill of health.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/ho.....lu-vaccine

    Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) this week was the first lawmaker to admit to having swine flu.~~~~~

    I guess we take his word for it. And to think Obama made fun of George Bush for keeping sanitizer squeeze bottle, for after he shook hands at a paty for Senators.

  15. canary

    The Hill: Obama’s attempted freeze-out
    By Armstrong Williams – 10/23/09

    On Thursday, the administration announced that White House pay czar Kenneth Feinberg would give interviews to all of the members of the White House TV pool — CNN, ABC, NBC and CBS — except Fox News. The attempted strong-arm tactic follows a series of critical remarks by White House officials aimed at discrediting Fox News.
    Appearing on CNN, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said that the administration is essentially ‘blacklisting Fox’

    News because the president doesn’t want “the CNNs and the others in the world [to] be led in following Fox.” Translation: The American president is attempting to co-opt the national dialogue by censuring an entire news organization.

    The administration’s tack is both obvious and appalling. With the president’s healthcare proposal floundering, the administration is clearly trying to distract the public by shifting the focus to Fox News. This is the oldest play in the book: Unable or unwilling to defend criticism of its policies, the administration has taken to attacking its critics.

    Yet the breadth of those attacks is truly alarming. This country has a rich First Amendment tradition that is animated by the idea that a free press is the surest safeguard against government tyranny. Our First Amendment safeguards are predicated on the idea that through the friction of diverse perspectives the truth always rises up.
    By attempting to censure an entire news network, the administration is not only trampling on the First Amendment, it is displaying an appalling lack of faith in the American populace. This kind of arrogance is near-tyrannical.

    This point was not lost on the other bureau chiefs in the White House TV pool, who vigorously objected to the White House’s attempt to freeze out Fox News, ultimately forcing it to relent. The rest of the media rightly recognized that if the administration can exclude media whose opinions it doesn’t respect or like, no media organization in the future will be exempt from exclusion. It may be a conservative organization that is excluded from the administrations interview today, but in three years it could be the liberal mainstream organization being excluded. Hooray for the liberal media who are finally waking up to the fact that Emperor Obama is attempting to co-opt the freedom of the press.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundi.....freeze-out

  16. Confucius

    From MarketWatch (CBS):

    GE Capital plans $1 billon Islamic bond: report

    By Mirna Sleiman
    Oct. 25, 2009

    DUBAI (Zawya Dow Jones) — General Electric Capital Corp. plans to sell up to $1 billion of Islamic bonds, or sukuk, as early as next week, a banker aware of the deal said Sunday.

    GE Capital will meet investors in London following a roasdshow in Dubai today and in Asia last week, the banker told Zawya Dow Jones.

    “The size isn’t final yet but it’s a benchmark sukuk so we’re talking around $1 billion,” he said.

    Citigroup and Goldman Sachs were mandated as lead arrangers of the bond, he said.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/sto.....id=yahoomy

    How fun. Our very own IED.

    • Confucius

      And if that is fun enough, remember that the federal government gave GE Capital billions of dollars through TARP v.1.0. The federal government then guaranteed much of GE Capital’s debt.

  17. U NO HOO

    Obama complains that the US Chamber of Commerce spent 500 million dollars ‘99-’09 for lobbying.

    Get this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12......html?_r=1

    Obama Hauls in Record $750 Million for Campaign

    By MICHAEL LUO
    Published: December 4, 2008
    President-elect Barack Obama brought in nearly $750 million for his presidential campaign, a record amount that exceeds what all of the candidates combined collected in private donations in the previous race for the White House, according to a report filed Thursday with the Federal Election Commission.

    Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, are you reading this?

    • Rusty Shackleford

      Pay to play—It’s the Chicago way.

      In so many ways, this is one thing that is clearly wrong with our system. Republican or Democrat, makes no difference to me. Filthy money is filthy money and I’m not really sure if our founding fathers understood or anticipated the amount of uber-funding it takes to promote a candidate. I’m not necessarily trying to contradict myself, I just find the practice very unsavory…in a necessary sort of way.

      Short of marking bills and only accepting cash donations for candidates, I can think of no way of defending against money coming in from enemies of the US, bad influences, illegal operations, etc. That is, except after the fact and after the candidate has been “elected”.

      But we’ve already seen this president very interested in directing the flow of money or stopping it altogether and it really does smack of Capone-ism. Buy everyone so they play ball and when they don’t, pay someone else to get rid of them. The golden rule” He who makes the rules, wins. And he’s already said “I won”, with a middle finger at his cheek, to boot.

      And that’s what I think ticks off the Clintons more than anything else: That the Obama machine is so much farther reaching and entrenched. Then of course, the Clintons are complicit on occasion with that. Why have we not heard about Hitlery having any more trouble paying her campaign funding bill? Did the boy whisper, “if you go on a 207-nation tour and promise to be good, I’ll pay the tab for ya, k?”

      It also saddens me to think that most of the subject matter pertaining to this administration is almost all directly related to money. Money spent, money taken, money controlled, money lost, and very little on actual issues. The healthcare crap is about money. (never was about health or care), AIG, GM, Chrysler, Home mortgages. And it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to note that control of money in this nation=control of people.

  18. canary

    AP: Carrots and Sticks: Obama’s split media strategy
    By Ben Feller Oct 26 2009

    WASHINGTON – The same president who aggressively harnesses the power of the press to promote his agenda has taken to lacing his comments with criticisms of the media,

    The White House’s attempt to discredit Fox News as an arm of the Republican Party may have been getting the headlines, but it is only one recent window

    All of Obama’s frustration comes as he not only welcomes the ratings-mad media’s constant demand for his presence, but also aggressively seeks maximum exposure to serve his own agenda.

    He went on Letterman and Leno. He’s held as many nightly news conferences in his first six months

    as George W. Bush and Bill Clinton did in eight years,

    and conducted far more interviews than either had at this point in their presidencies.
    He is the first Oval Office occupant to do five Sunday morning talk shows in a one day.

    In essence, Obama’s strategy is not to tame the media to his liking or blame it for his troubles. It is both.

    And then, he’s the media’s chief critic.

    Sometimes the compliments and condemnation come in practically the same breath.

    Blaming the media is almost tradition among politicians. It helps Obama by bonding him with his audience against a common target: the influential press, which many people consider to be biased or untrustworthy. But it does carry a risk of backfiring by elevating Obama’s critics or making the White House look petty for pinning its problems on the press corps.

    The president is sophisticated about what attracts coverage, what’s in the media each day, and why.

    Unlike Bush, who publicly claimed little interest in news from papers or TV, Obama dives into it.

    Aides say he reads four or five newspapers each morning. He catches bits of TV coverage on the sets around the Oval Office. Obama also goes online, has articles flagged for him by staff, reads news magazines on Air Force One and likes to hear which stories have aides buzzing.

    “You’ve got to be careful about them cable networks,” Obama cautioned a man at a Montana town hall who had just told him that cable was his main source of news..

    The press is there as a surrogate for the public, to ask the questions the public wants answers for,” Kumar said. “Their job is not to stand there and provide him an opportunity to talk on any subject he wants.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....90c2FuZHN0

  19. Rusty Shackleford

    FACT CHECK: Health insurers’ profits 35th of 53

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....DMQ–

    By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 1 min ago

    WASHINGTON – In the health care debate, Democrats and their allies have gone after insurance companies as rapacious profiteers making “immoral” and “obscene” returns while “the bodies pile up.”

    But in pillorying insurers over profits, the critics are on shaky ground. Ledgers tell a different reality.

    Health insurance profit margins typically run about 6 percent, give or take a point or two. That’s anemic compared with other forms of insurance and a broad array of industries, even some beleaguered ones.

    Profits barely exceeded 2 percent of revenues in the latest annual measure.This partly explains why the credit ratings of some of the largest insurers were downgraded to negative from stable heading into this year, as investors were warned of a stagnant if not shrinking market for private plans.

    Insurers are an expedient target for leaders who want a government-run plan in the marketplace. Such a public option would force private insurers to trim profits and restrain premiums to compete, the argument goes. This would “keep insurance companies honest,” says President Barack Obama.

    The debate is loaded with intimations that insurers are less than straight, when they are not flatly accused of malfeasance.

    The insurers may not have helped their case by commissioning a report that looked primarily at the elements of health care legislation that might drive consumer costs up while ignoring elements aimed at bringing costs down.Few in the debate seem interested in a true balance sheet.

    If the debate were actually about healthcare, I would be concerned. But it’s not. It’s about the control of monies and wealth and power for the democrats; Specifically: the boy.

    • proreason

      The real problem is that 90% of what the Health Insurance industry does is unnecessary.

      The purpose of insurance is to prevent financial ruin, not to cover the costs of oil changes.

      But 90% of what the Health Insurance industry does is to add up the oil changes and adjust the prices (that are different at every oil change clinic), determine whehter this particular oil change is covered (and it’s different at every clinic), apply the deductable (and it’s different at every clinic), enforce the copay (which is different at every clinic), monitor the out-of-pocket limits (which is different at every clinic), make sure that oil changes comly with HIPAA, make sure the oil change claims are propersly filled in, electronically file the oild change claims, communicate with the oil changers with the oil change claim is incorrectly filled in, lose 10% of the oil change claims so that the oil claimees have to refile the claims, change the oil change claim forms every year, answer the oild claims inquiries, review the claims, re-issue the claims, cut checks to millions of oil changees and oil changers, change the rules next year, add new oil changees every year after extensive reviews of their oil changing history, insist on cheaper oil, insist on cheaper oil changing methods, force the oil changers to change more oil per minute, certify the oil changers, make sure there are not too many oil changes (and every clinic is different), fight lawsuite filed by the oil changers and the oil changees, write the oil change claim computer systems, rewrite the oil change claim computer systems, train the expert oil change claim monitorrin bureaucrats, write the oild change claim policies, rewrite the oil change claim policies. and lobby Congress to get more oil changes for every oil changee,

      Maybe if we eliminated some of that, people could actually afford Health Care.

      Go a hunch that oil changes would be about $30 a pop if we did that, instead of $150.

    • wardmama4

      You are so right Proreason – I get mailings for insurance for my pets so much and now I’m getting them to insure my car repairs. It is just a way to get more money and drive up prices.

      On healthcare – my dad & his family (father, uncle, brother) all use to take anything in barter for healthcare – he knew which patients he could trust to really ‘pay on it’ over time and which had no way at all but were good people (those they bartered with) and those who only came when it was bad & wouldn’t pay. In steps Uncle Sam along about 1965ish and told them they had to go onto SS and thus needed to have a real accounting/business system in place – no more of this a rug for medical care garbage. Insurance & government only make things worse. And create even more problems.

      Of course this is also fueled by the 10% of Americans who are always looking for something for nothing – on our tax dollar.

  20. proreason

    Don’t let the attack on freedom of speech, the attack on America’s sovereignity, the green nonsense, and Obamy’s love affairs with every despot on earth distract you from the current major battelfield….Health Scare.

    Here Star Parker shows unusual wisdom:

    “…Politicians are making a deal with us. We give up our freedom and they say they’ll give us better, cheaper health care with everyone getting covered.

    The odds of success here? Would you give me your most precious possession in exchange for my promise to do something that neither I nor anyone has every done before?

    Consider the government central-planning conceit that we are now trying to recover from in the housing and financial markets….”

    http://townhall.com/columnists.....eit?page=2

  21. canary

    Notice Global warming Gore idiots and stem cell freaks. Faking to promote and keep jobs and money flowing in $ . Can we go back to adult stem cells now.

    AP: Disgraced cloning expert convicted in South Korea
    By Hyung-jin Kim Oct 26 2009

    SEOUL, South Korea – A South Korean stem cell scientist once hailed as a hero … convicted Monday on criminal charges related to faked research, but avoided jail.

    Hwang gained worldwide fame in 2004 when he and his former colleagues at Seoul National University claimed in a paper published in the journal Science that they had created the world’s first cloned human embryos — and had extracted stem cells from them.

    A year later, Hwang’s team also claimed in the journal that they had created human embryonic stem cells genetically

    Hwang had been the only South Korean scientist allowed to carry out studies on the master cells that scientists say could lead to revolutionary cures for hard-to-treat diseases such as Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.

    The South Korean government showered him with lavish perks, designating him the country’s first “top scientist,”

    ~~~ giving him generous research funds and assigning personal bodyguards and a diplomat to assist him with
    ~~~international contacts.

    But Hwang’s reputation quickly eroded after questions about his claims led to an investigation by a university committee. It concluded that the 2005 paper was based on faked data, and also cast doubt on the previous findings.

    fraud for allegedly accepting some 2 billion won (about $2 million) in private donations under false pretenses. He also was accused of embezzling 800 million won (about $800,000)

    Hwang eventually admitted the data was faked but claimed he had been deceived by a fellow researcher.

    During an August hearing, Hwang pleaded for leniency, saying he was ready to “pour the last of my passion” into his research.

    Hwang still has a loyal following,.. “We want the government to allow Hwang to resume his stem cell research.”

    Yewon Kang contributed to this report.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....sbw–

  22. Rusty Shackleford

    The Slanted AP tells a tale of healthcare:

    Reid says health care bill to have public option

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_.....hbA–

    By DAVID ESPO and ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writers David Espo And Erica Werner, Associated Press Writers – 2 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – Majority Leader Harry Reid says health care legislation headed to the Senate floor will include an option for government-run insurance. Reid says states will have the prerogative of opting out of the program if they choose.

    Reid noted that polls show widespread public support for giving the government a role in the overhauled health care system envisioned by President Barack Obama and his allies in Congress.

    Um, I don’t think so. I just grabbed the rasmussen poll results for the 24th and they tell a different story.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....are_reform

    Rsmussen: Approve: 45%, Disapprove: 51%

    Also, in direct refutation of what Reid says:

    Other polling released last week showed that 49% would rather see no health care legislation passed this year than see the current bill become law.

    Two-thirds (66%) say an increase in competition is more likely than increased government regulation to reduce the cost of health care. That’s one reason there is strong support for removing the exemption from anti-trust laws currently enjoyed by insurance companies.

    So I think that while this administration thinks in a vacuum, there’s a real world out here that will scream bloody murder if they actually pass this thing.

    The most odd aspect is that they STILL keep forcing the issue, in their pseudo-intellectual clown way, acting as if there is NO opposition at all. Fine, like the parents say….Go play in the road, see if I care.

    • proreason

      It’s the way the question is worded.

      If you ask it the msm way “Are you in favor of free health-care with better quality and more services, that will enhance your sex life and keep you eternally slim.”, the answer is Javol!

      If you ask it the Rasmussen way: “Are you in favor of government-run Health Care” the answer is Hell No!

  23. Another important statistic regarding TCO’s “rule” from the Washington Post.

    Obama may have vastly surpassed President Bush when it comes to the number of fundraisers held in his first year, but CBS’s Mark Knoller reports that there’s one place 43 and 44 are neck-and-neck: the number of rounds of golf they’ve played.

    “Today – Obama ties Pres. Bush in the number of rounds of golf played in office: 24. Took Bush 2 yrs & 10 months,” Knoller tweeted Sunday of the “duffer in chief.”

    http://voices.washingtonpost.c.....l?wprss=44

    How does he manage to get sooooo much done!

    • Liberals Demise

      Must be hell on the back 9 when you get that call from Afghanistan asking where are the f*****ng troops you asked for.

    • canary

      He played golf today. Maybe be a week of golf til he get’s to Arcadia Florida’s solar panels. News said he’s had more pleasure trips so far than Bush or Clinton in 8 years. He’s having a party.

      Can we really believe Obama’s girls haven’t had H1H2 shots yets, or is because they won’t get them. National Emergency by a Jackass.

    • canary

      Was Senator John Kerry’s tea spiked?

      Rediff News: Pakistan could become Epicentre of Terrorism in the World: US Senator
      Oct 27, 2009 12:37 IST (excerpts, full article below link)
      Senator John F Kerry, chairman of the powerful Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has warned that Pakistan could become the epicenter of terrorism in the world, since it is now the headquarters of the Al Qaeda

      “Pakistan is not only the headquarters of the Al Qaeda today, but it could easily become the epicenter of extremism in the world,” he said.

      Kerry said, “We have enormous strategic interests in the outcome of the struggle in Pakistan. It has a full nuclear arsenal and a longstanding, sometimes violent rivalry with its neighbour India.”

      He acknowledged, ” instability in Afghanistan, only increases the risk of conflagration where the world can least afford it — next door in Pakistan.”

      Thus, he argued, “Given the balance of our strategic interests, it should serious pause to the military and civilian strategists alike that the current balance of our expenditure between Afghanistan — where there is virtually no Al Qaeda — and Pakistan, where there is, tallies 30 to one.”

      “That’s why, regardless of what happens in Afghanistan, it is vitally important that we support and intensify even our support, and improve our cooperation with Pakistan,” Kerry said.

      Kerry said that the United States ‘can’t go it alone,’ and bemoaned that ‘there is something wrong with the fact that today, we are borrowing money from China to provide security for Afghanistan so that China can go there and mine their copper.’

      “We want all nations to trade and invest in Afghanistan,” he said, “but we also want all nations to help with stabilising the country.”

      Reiterating the importance of Pakistan, Kerry asserted, “No front is more important in our fight against international terrorism than nuclear-armed Pakistan, and the chaos next door in Afghanistan

      said, “We have a real stake in supporting allies in Pakistan and improving our relationship with the people. That’s why we are committed to providing the Pakistani people $1.5 billion a year for each of the next five years to build schools, hospitals and roads.”

      Kerry, who earlier capitulated to the Pakistani army’s demands that there be no conditions attached to the massive Kerry-Lugar aid bill that he co-authored, said, “We need to make it clear that we respect their sovereignty as we give Pakistan vital breathing space in order to deal with its difficult domestic problems.”

      “These are serious challenges for Pakistan’s civilian, military and intelligence leaders,” he said, and acknowledged, “Historically Pakistani intelligence services have used the Taliban as a hedge and there is real concern that continues.”

      Kerry warned, “If we falter in Afghanistan, factions within Pakistan, may well determine that it’s in their interest to strengthen their dealings with extremists.”

      We should be reaching out regionally and globally to Moscow and also to Tehran.”

      http://news.rediff.com/report/.....enator.htm

      blames India? reach out to Iran? Does Kerry know the difference between the taliban and al-qaeda? Doesn’t John Kerry know that Obama rediculed the “dusted off. outdated..slapped together..labels” of: “Reagan’s: “the Evil Empire”, Bush’s “the Axis of Evil”
      Obama’s new “dusted off, updated, slapped together label” should just be the Epicenter of Evil.

    • canary

      Obama blames Republicans he’s mopping decades of their mess
      Rueters: Obama: “Skinny but tough”
      Steve Holland Oct 26 2009

      President Barack Obama had a message for his political friends and foes on Monday — “just because I’m skinny doesn’t mean I’m not tough.”

      “I’ve tried to explain … just because I’m skinny doesn’t mean I’m not tough. I don’t rattle. I’m not going to shrink back, because now is the time for us to continue to push and follow through on those things that we know have to be done but have not been done in decades,” he said.

      Obama was in Miami raising $1.5 million for Democratic congressional candidates for the 2010 elections, in which Democrats are seeking to hold onto their strong majorities in the House of Representatives and the Senate.

      “Lately I feel like somebody made a big mess and I’ve got my mop and I’m mopping the floor and the folks who made the mess are there (saying) ‘you’re not mopping fast enough. You’re not mopping the right way. It’s a socialist mop.’”

      http://blogs.reuters.com/front.....but-tough/

    • canary

      Obama’s 7 lies in 2 minutes. YouTube
      http://www.theospark.net/2009/.....nutes.html

  24. Rusty Shackleford

    From an every-patient press:

    Obama says he will not rush Afghanistan decision

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....ama_troops

    By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer Charles Babington, Associated Press Writer – 21 mins ago

    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – President Barack Obama mourned 14 Americans killed Monday in helicopter crashes in Afghanistan and told a military audience he will not be hurried as he evaluates whether to alter U.S. strategy in the war.

    “I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm’s way. I won’t risk your lives unless it is absolutely necessary,” Obama said during a visit to Naval Air Station Jacksonville.

    Because it’s far more important for me to work on my golf swing, be on Letterman and make appearances from that big, shiny jet. Your needs, as far as I’m concerned, are less than secondary. After all, you are all volunteers; You should expect no help from me and you should expect to have to suffer.

    Obama is nearing a decision on whether to commit large numbers of additional troops to the war next year. His top military commander in Afghanistan favors an increase of roughly 40,000, officials have told The Associated Press, which would allow the U.S. military to expand its reach in areas of the country’s south and east now under Taliban sway.

    Obama’s visit to the naval air station came after he convened another in a series of White House war council sessions with about a half-dozen Cabinet officials and other top advisers earlier Monday amid Republican criticism that he is taking too long to choose his next move.

    The Situation Room session focused on the cooperation between U.S. military and civilian efforts in Afghanistan, White House officials said. Another session may be held later this week.

    Obama did not tip his hand on how he might decide. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that a decision was still expected in the coming weeks.

    Oh give me a #&%@! break, would you please? We’re just not that stupid. “Didn’t tip his hand”. Oh get real. He’s already tipped his hand. Why if this was a game of poker, he would’ve lost his frikkin’ shirt and his watch as well.

    A war plan that asks Obama to commit tens of thousands of additional U.S. forces to Afghanistan is too ambitious, a top Senate Democrat said in Washington on Monday.

    (And might actually lead to victory)

    Sen. John Kerry,(who fought in Vietnam) the Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman who was the White House’s point man during last week’s tense talks with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, praised commanding Gen. Stanley McChrystal but said his plan for adding troops in Afghanistan “goes too far, too fast.”

    Kerry’s (who fought in Vietnam) stance would aim for a modest increase in American forces, treading middle ground between Republicans who have said Obama would put soldiers and the country at risk by rejecting McChrystal’s larger request and anti-war Democrats who question whether the United States already has taken on too much in Afghanistan.

    As compared to the TARP, auto-maker takeover, loans takeover, banks takeover, the healthcare bill that has occupied a ridiculous amount of time and most people hate it anyway…and sooooo much more.

    As Pro has said, all is actually going to plan, I’m sure. Massive destruction of our system at home while making sure the best fighting force in the world is left to a catastrophic failure in the middle east so he can deliver his already prepared “I-told-you-so” speech sometime next spring. A pullout in disgrace is inevitable.

  25. BillK

    Ever wonder what liberal film makers are up to these days?

    We know about Michael Moore of course, but what about the other experts in agitprop?

    Here’s one, from Madison, WI’s ultra far-left Capital Times:

    ‘Labor Day’ is ‘War at Home Part II’, creator says

    By Rob Thomas

    Glenn Silber calls his new movie “Labor Day” “The War at Home Part II.”

    That’s quite a statement for anyone who has seen the Oscar-nominated “The War at Home,” Silber’s searing 1979 documentary about antiwar protests in Madison. Silber is a 1972 UW-Madison graduate who saw much of the struggle first hand.

    “Labor Day,” which gets its world premiere in Madison at the Barrymore Theatre on Wednesday (preceded by a 30th anniversary screening of “War at Home” on Tuesday), is also about a large political force mobilizing itself, but this time things are much less chaotic, and the results are more immediate. The film follows members of the Service Employees International Union, the 2 million-strong fastest-growing union in the country, as they mobilized in support of Barack Obama’s candidacy for president.

    What ties the two films together, Silber said, is what’s at stake.

    “It’s a really emotional film for me,” he said. “It feels like the ‘War at Home Part II,’ only this time it’s the real war at home. It’s not about stopping a war in Afghanistan or Iraq, which is very important, or what we did in Vietnam. This really is the final throwdown.”

    http://host.madison.com/entert.....03286.html

    Sorry, I couldn’t stomach any more, aside from who’s been paying the ultra-lefty in recent years:

    I was very happily ensconced in my job at ‘20/20,’” he said. “But I was upset with what was going on (with the election). My wife and I were talking and said, ‘If we don’t turn it around this time, it’s basically over.’

  26. BillK

    Why not spend millions of dollars so a few homeowners can save pennies?

    That’s Government.

    From the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

    Milwaukee, Madison land solar energy funds

    By Thomas Content

    Milwaukee will receive $650,000 and Madison will receive $370,000 from the federal stimulus package to advance their programs to develop solar energy.

    The $1 million from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act for the two cities comes as $3.3 million in recovery act funding has been allocated for a Midwest regional solar training initiative.

    The city will use the grant to expand its Milwaukee Shines initiative and establish a Solar Hot Water Business Council, with an eye toward linking its own solar initiative with the work of the Milwaukee 7 Water Council.

    Milwaukee Shines’ goal is to increase the number of solar installers and install more than 100 solar-electric and 50 solar thermal systems by 2012.

    “We are going to be able to use less energy, at a time that that’s very, very important,” said Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett during a news conference with Gov. Jim Doyle at the Milwaukee Public Library, 814 W. Wisconsin Ave. The central library is incorporating solar into a green roof that is now under construction.

    The aim of the council is to educate and enable local water technology manufacturers to shift into the growing solar industry, leading to the creation of a solar manufacturing cluster in the region.

    Milwaukee Shines is particularly interested in helping manufacturers re-tool their facilities to start producing solar energy components, said Erick Shambarger of the city’s Office of Environmental Sustainability. “We believe this could become a niche market for Milwaukee.”

    The proposed business council helped set Milwaukee’s application apart from others received by the Department of Energy. DOE received applications for funding from 25 different cities but granted funding to only 16, said Steve Palmeri, project officer with the U.S. Department of Energy in Golden, Colo. A total of $10 million was awarded to the 16 cities.

    Madison will use its grant to expand its MadiSUN solar project, which seeks to double the use of solar energy in Madison over a two-year period, Mayor Dave Cieslewicz said.

    DOE also is funding regional training grants for the solar industry. The Midwest Renewable Energy Association, which recently opened an office in Milwaukee, will receive $3.3 million in funding for a Midwestern solar training initiative, to be conducted along with technical and community colleges. The goal of the multi-state program is to train 200 instructors.

    The organization, which recently opened an office in Milwaukee, has seen demand for its own solar electric courses quadruple over the last three years, said Nick Hylla, instructor development coordinator at MREA. As a result, the organization expanded its staff, up to 38 instructors now from 20 at the start of this year, he said. …

    So, let’s see:

    Milwaukee gets $650,000 to install 150 solar systems that might save homeowners around $100/year.

    Madison gets $350,000 to “double” solar usage (making it what, 5%? 10%? 20%?)

    The Midwest Renewable Energy Association gets $3.3 million in funding for to train 200 instructors.

    (Really? It costs $16,500 to train a solar “instructor?”)

    What a wonderful use of tax dollars.

    But it’s OK, they’re “green jobs.”

    • Liberals Demise

      At least Ollie and Sven will have a job in the vinter moving da schnow frum da stupid solar panels, ya fa sure!

  27. canary

    Forbes: Armageddon Time
    Peter Robinson, 10.23.09,
    Victor Davis Hanson is a military historian; Robert Baer a former CIA field officer. Both have studied the Middle East for decades

    Although they differ on certain matters, they agree on five observations.

    The first: If not already capable of doing so, Iran will be able to produce nuclear weapons in mere months.

    The second observation: The Iranians have no interest in running a bluff. Once able to produce nuclear weapons, they will almost certainly do so.

    ~~The third observation: As the Iranians scramble to produce nuclear weapons, the Obama administration appears too feckless, inexperienced or deluded to stop them.

    Already, the administration has committed two errors.

    Last summer, when millions of Iranians took to the streets to protest their country’s corrupt presidential election, it failed to encourage the protesters, merely looking on. “Obama could have said to the Iranian people, ‘We support your legitimate concerns over constitutional government,’” Hanson argued. “Instead he was saying, ‘Let’s wait and see who wins.’

    Then last month the Obama administration announced that the U.S. no longer planned to deploy anti-missile defenses in Poland and the Czech Republic.

    The Obama administration canceled the anti-missile defenses to please Russia,
    hoping that Russia would pressure Iran in return. “Russia is never going to help,” Hanson said. “Tension in the Gulf would raise oil prices, helping Russia. Anything that causes the United States problems, Putin is for.”

    Hanson explained. “We could have some kind of blockade of the Persian Gulf. ” Will President Obama pursue such options? Does he possess the political will? Hanson and Baer doubted it.
    “We have a president who likes to be liked,” Hanson said.

    The fourth observation: Israel cannot tolerate a nuclear Iran.
    “Forty-nine percent,” said Baer.”I would say 50-50,” Hanson replied.
    The final observation: Iran would retaliate.

    “Iran’s deterrent doctrine is to strike back everywhere it can,” Baer explained. “We should expect the worst.” Iran would attack American supply lines in Iraq and command Hezbollah to start a civil war in Lebanon. It would fire surface-to-surface missiles at every oil facility within range, wreaking devastation in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states while removing millions of barrels of oil a day from the world markets. The economy of the entire globe would suffer a paroxysm.

    Peter Robinson, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford Universityand a former White House speech writer
    http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/.....inson.html

  28. Rusty Shackleford

    Oct. consumer confidence slips —- unexpectedly

    From a constantly caught-off-balance AP:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....us_economy

    By ASHLEY M. HEHER, AP Retail Writer Ashley M. Heher, Ap Retail Writer – 2 hrs 13 mins ago

    CHICAGO – Consumer’s confidence about the U.S. economy fell unexpectedly in October as job prospects remained bleak, a private research group said Tuesday, fueling speculation that an already gloomy holiday shopping forecast could worsen.

    The Consumer Confidence Index, released by The Conference Board, sank unexpectedly to 47.7 in October — its second-lowest recording since May.

    Wall Street analysts predicted a reading of 53.1.

    A reading above 90 means the economy is on solid footing. Above 100 signals strong growth.

    The index has seesawed since reaching a historic low of 25.3 in February and climbed to 53.4 in September.

    Shoppers have a grim outlook for the future, The Conference Board said, expecting a worsening business climate, fewer jobs and lower salaries. That’s particularly bad news for retailers who depend on the holiday shopping season for a hefty share of their annual revenue.

    “Consumers also remain quite pessimistic about their future earnings, a sentiment that will likely constrain spending during the holidays,” said Lynn Franco, director of The Conference Board’s Consumer Research Center.

    • proreason

      The only reason Consumer Confidence has gone up since February is that we are farther from the brink of oblivion in September and October, 2008.

      And the only positive thing that has changed since then is that the liberals are no longer screaming chicken little from the rooftops. And oh yeh, the stock market is up, which means the Soros and Sachs boys are busily preparing the next stock market crash so they can further wipe out the middle class.

      The country is obviously WORSE off than Feb, 2009.
      - We have another 790B of debt,
      - we are on the brink of plowing into two financail icebergs,
      - our credit rating is about to be downgraded,
      - mega-inflation is 7 months closer,
      - we are more dependent on China than before
      - another 6 million or so people are out of work
      - a huge tax increase is even closer
      - our manufacturing base is even more degraded
      - the banking industry has not only NOT been repaired, it is in more trouble than ever
      - we are on the brink of destroying the Health Insurance and Medical industries
      - we are on the brink of subjegating the country to the UN and warmist fools
      - free speech is under assault on all fronts.
      - small businesses are being obliterated right and left

      So I don’t believe for a second that consumer confidence is higher than February.

      It’s just another lie.

  29. Confucius

    From AP:

    Disgraced ex-reporter to speak in Va. on ethics

    LEXINGTON, Va. – Disgraced ex-New York Times reporter Jayson Blair will be the featured speaker at a Virginia journalism ethics seminar.

    Blair will speak on “Lessons Learned” Nov. 6 at Washington and Lee University’s Journalism Ethics Institute.

    He resigned from the Times in 2003 after an investigation found he had plagiarized or fabricated major portions of articles he had written during four years with the newspaper.

    A school news release says the 33-year-old Blair hasn’t spoken publicly before about the events that led to his departure from the Times.

    For the past two years, he has been working as a certified life coach for a mental-health practice in northern Virginia.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....r_ethics_1

    Who says America isn’t the greatest country on earth?

    Only America can give a habitual liar and plagiarist a job writing for the New York Times. And then after getting fired, a quasi-job as laughable as “certified life coach.”

  30. Rusty Shackleford

    Obama putting $3.4B toward a ’smart’ power grid

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....smart_grid

    By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer Charles Babington, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 52 mins ago

    ARCADIA, Fla. – President Barack Obama made a pitch for renewable energy Tuesday, announcing $3.4 billion in government support for 100 projects aimed at modernizing the nation’s power grid.

    Touring a field of solar energy panels in west-central Florida, the president urged greater use of several technologies to make America’s power transmission system more efficient and better suited to the digital age. The projects include installing “smart” electric meters in homes, automating utility substations, and installing thousands of new digital transformers and grid sensors.

    “There’s something big happening in America in terms of creating a clean-energy economy,” Obama said, although he added there is much more to be done.

    He likened the effort to the ambitious development of the national highway system 50 years ago.

    There are two things wrong with this sentence. 1) A “modern clean energy grid” is unsustainable with current technology. There is no new or revolutionary technology on the horizon that will suddenly increase the output of solar cells by 2000%, which is what would be needed to become independent from gas, coal and oil. and 2) the interstate highways system, as envisaged by Eisenhower was a revolutionary idea and it also killed the railroad industry while simultaneously bolstering the trucking industry. Overall, in spite of the railroad debacle, it created far more jobs than it eliminated, while making travel options for the average citizen available. Perhaps the only real attraction to the interstate highway system to the boy is that it was one of Hitler’s better ideas and is patterned strongly after the German highway system, or Autobahn.

    Green energy “jobs” are temporary, sporadic, undefined and based on feelings. That is not where I want my next paycheck coming from.

    He said modernization would lead to a “smarter, stronger and more secure electric grid.”

    Under muggy skies, Obama toured the DeSoto Next Generation Solar Energy Center, which is designed to generate enough energy for about 3,000 residential customers of the utility FPL. It is the nation’s largest photovoltaic electricity facility.

    Obama said a modern grid could give consumers better control over their electricity usage and costs, and spur development of renewable energy sources such as wind and solar.

    The $3.4 billion in grants from the government’s January economic stimulus program will be matched by $4.7 billion in private investments. The smallest grant will be $400,000 and the largest $200 million.

    “We have a very antiquated (electric grid) system in our country,” Carol Browner, assistant to the president for energy and climate change, told reporters. “The current system is outdated, it’s dilapidated.”

    This is flatly untrue. The United States has a far-reaching, incredibly complex power grid. Although it is costly to maintain..it IS maintained. I challenge Browner to visit any third-world nation if she wants to see a “outdated” and “dilapidated” power distribution system. Look at any nation in South America. Hell, look at Russia.

    Yet, the boy wants yet another photo-op to “look cool” for all his pals while he gives money away that is, essentially, a throw away gift. Might as well toss the money in the fire. After all, the military doesn’t need it….nor will it really create any jobs. So who cares?

    • Liberals Demise

      Anywhere in India comes to my mind, right off the top!

    • proreason

      uuuh,

      Were not road systems a proven technology by the mid-50’s? Germany built the prototaype autobahn system in the 30’s.

      How does a proven system with known costs, military value and enormous payback and job producting capability compare to a unproven (more specifically, a FAILED) technology with negative payback, no military value and no civilian value, that will destroy jobs and crush the economy.

      I know even the Moron isn’t that stupid.

      So once again, it isn’t about advocating for progress, it’s about advocating to create a centrol governent so powerful that it cannot ever be displaced.

  31. pdsand

    I’m glad to finally hear from our media that SOMEBODY is opposing the democrat agenda. From the AP via qwest.live.com:

    “Great Lakes shippers oppose air pollution rules
    Oct 27, 2009 (4:46p CDT)
    By JOHN FLESHER (AP Environmental Writer)

    TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. – Shipping companies that haul iron ore, coal and other freight on the Great Lakes have enlisted support from leading congressional Democrats to ward off air pollution regulations they say would be a financial burden.

    A group representing the 55 U.S.-flagged vessels that operate on the lakes is hoping for relief from a House-Senate conference committee expected to meet this week in Washington to negotiate a compromise on a natural resources spending bill…

    …”This is one of the most significant public health protection standards that the EPA has set in recent years,” said Frank O’Donnell, president of Clean Air Watch, a Washington-based advocacy group. “We hope it won’t be torpedoed by special interest politics.”…

    …The rules would damage not only shippers, but Great Lakes industries that rely on them – including steel and auto manufacturers already battered by the economic downturn and foreign competition, Miller said…

    …”I don’t think there’s such a critical air problem in the Great Lakes region that we should risk jobs and putting ships out of business,” she said.

    Some officials in Alaska say the rules could deter visits to their ports by cruise ships, which are important to the state economy.

    As written, they would require ships by 2012 to burn fuel with sulfur content not exceeding 1 percent, or 10,000 parts per million. In 2015, the limit would drop to 1,000 parts per million.

    Great Lakes steamships are powered by a type of marine fuel that carries about 30,000 parts per million of sulfur.

    “It’s among the filthiest fuel known to mankind – literally the sludge at the bottom of the barrel after the refining process,” O’Donnell said…

    …Mothballing them would be self-defeating because much of the cargo would be switched to trucks or trains, which emit more pollution than ships, said Phil Linsalata, spokesman for Warner Petroleum, a marine fuel company in Clare, Mich…

    …”Air pollution is not confined to state boundaries,” Arthur Marin, director of a group representing northeastern state air quality agencies, said in a letter to Congress. “Through long-range transport in the atmosphere, pollutants emitted in domestic waters, such as the Great Lakes, affect air quality in the Northeast.”

    EPA estimates the regulations would prevent up to 33,000 premature deaths over the next two decades and hundreds of billions in medical costs.

    In a statement, the agency confirmed having met with Oberstar and other lawmakers.

    “EPA prides itself on listening to public comments and taking them into account before issuing final regulations,” it said.”

    http://kai03.qwest.com/Windows.....&qid=0

    Ha! Well at least someone is in opposition. Too bad those people live in states that are all I’m sure Deep Blue and have voted Democrat all their lives. Maybe they could have avoided this situation by listening when Republicans have been saying all these decades that increased regulation will kill jobs and businesses. And mind you this is just a regulation, it doesn’t even have to be voted on in Congress, the EPA can simply do it.

    “”EPA prides itself on listening to public comments and taking them into account before issuing final regulations,” it said.”

    Sounds like they’ve been getting a few pointers on how to pretend to be moderate from Obama. If you listen to public comments and take them into account but always reach the liberal conclusion you are not a moderate.

    “Through long-range transport in the atmosphere, pollutants emitted in domestic waters, such as the Great Lakes, affect air quality in the Northeast.”

    I’m sorry that really just sounds made up. And I’m sure the only thing creating air pollution in the Northeast is a few steamships on the great lakes. Oh that’s right, since the Democrats ran all the factories out of business that might be true.

    “It’s among the filthiest fuel known to mankind – literally the sludge at the bottom of the barrel after the refining process”

    And I’m sure once the refiners lose the revenue from selling that sludge the rest of us will have to make it up in higher gasoline costs.

    “The rules would damage not only shippers, but Great Lakes industries that rely on them – including steel and auto manufacturers already battered by the economic downturn and foreign competition, Miller said”

    And already battered by unions and democrat regulations in other areas.

    “EPA estimates the regulations would prevent up to 33,000 premature deaths over the next two decades and hundreds of billions in medical costs.”

    Ha! So the fuel that ships use in the Great Lakes is part of the healthcare debate! Way to stay on message AP!

  32. U NO HOO

    Just an anecdote, we spend a few days a year at the Inn at Lock Seven of the Welland Canal. The air is fine every morning, afternoon, evening and night.

    Maybe they want sails on the lakers.

  33. Rusty Shackleford

    This is just bizarre.

    From the ever soviet-loyal AP:

    Re-Stalinization of Moscow subway sparks debate

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....in_station

    By STEVE GUTTERMAN, Associated Press Writer Steve Gutterman, Associated Press Writer – Tue Oct 27, 3:44 pm ET

    MOSCOW – A Moscow subway station is the newest focus of Russia’s bitter dispute over the legacy of Josef Stalin, whose outsize shadow still haunts the nation more than 50 years after his death.

    Critics of the Communist era were outraged when old Soviet national anthem lyrics praising Stalin were restored to a rotunda in the Kurskaya station this summer. Now there is talk of putting a statue of the dictator back where one used to stand, facing commuters entering the station.

    Moscow’s chief municipal architect Alexander Kuzmin, who raised the idea of returning the Stalin statue last week, said there was nothing behind it but a desire for historical accuracy.

    Subway officials have said the same thing about the gold-colored lettering unveiled in August, which proclaims that “Stalin raised us to be true to the people, inspired us to labor and heroic deeds.”

    What’s going on here is communist withdrawal. Many said this would happen. Those who remember the Soviet days with fondness, perhaps had it pretty good then. Status within the state, a good job and pension. Anyone who worked for the government, which is pretty much everyone, who didn’t have to fend for themselves, as in an “evil capitalist” way, would probably feel fine about them “good ol’ Stalin days”.

    But opponents say the changes are part of a campaign to rehabilitate Stalin and hold up an image of his iron-handed rule as a positive example for Russia today.

    “This is Stalinist propaganda — nothing else,” said Yuri Bondarenko, director of a group that is seeking to restore Czarist-era names of streets and buildings that were renamed after the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution. “They are trying to throw our country back decades, to the Gulag.”

    And, Yuri speaks the voice of reason. One who knows that to be free takes work and a certain amount of independent thought

    But the AP wouldn’t be doing its job if it couldn’t find just ONE guy in his 60’s who really thought the good ol’ days were really good….

    The last item in this article:

    But retiree Nikolai Shulipin, 62, was pleased by the restoration and said he hoped the statue would be erected. He said his family had suffered under Stalin’s forced farm collectivization campaign, his grandfather dying after the family was exiled from their fertile farmland to the barren steppe.

    “But my mother always remembered those years with reverence, as a time when the nation was united and its goals were the right ones,” he said.

    Here’s an individual who SUFFERED at the hands of the communists who,perhaps out of instinct, said, “Golly gee, it was a great time”. It’s also entirely possible that he was at about .40 BAC as the largest medical problem in Russia is alcoholism,and at 62, this guy is well beyond his life-expectancy, and brain damage is probably significant due to his pickled state.

    So deep runs the indoctrination that a whole two generations or more will have to die off before the Russian people can fully envelope freedom and what that means.

    Sadly, forces are constantly at work that want to diminish that possibility as much as possible. I partly understand….it’s like leaving home for the first time and you get a flat tire…mommy and daddy aren’t there to help. So, it’s a given that many people, when faced with a “take action” moment, their first instinct is to run to the government for help, or to alleviate their problem completely.

  34. proreason

    Stunning interview with Charles Krauthammer:

    http://www.spiegel.de/internat.....01,00.html

    Very long but worth the time.

    You usually see or hear him a minute at a time.

    This in-depth interview demonstrates how brilliant he is. You may not agree with everything he says but you will have to respect his mind.

  35. canary

    DailyMail.co.uk: British police and intelligence officers sent to tackle UK-funded torturers on West Bank
    By David Rose 25th October 2009

    The Government is sending British police and intelligence officers to the West Bank to try to stop a wave of brutal torture by Palestinian security forces funded by UK taxpayers.

    Yesterday a senior official from the semi-autonomous Palestinian Authority (PA), which runs the West Bank and its security agencies, admitted for the first time that torture, beatings and extra-judicial killings have been rife for the past two years, with hundreds of torture allegations and at least four murders in custody,…

    We are determined with the help of our British colleagues to instill respect for human rights

    Besides investigation, British detectives will train the Palestinian police
    The next step would be for officers from MI5 and MI6 to train the PA’s Mukhabarat intelligence agency.

    ‘Obviously police cannot train intelligence officers,’ Ms Arar said.

    Support for the new department follows the disclosure by The Mail on Sunday in January that

    Britain spends £20million a year funding the forces responsible for the abuse.

    Most of their victims are accused of involvement with Hamas, the radical Islamist party that seized power through violence in the Gaza Strip in 2007.

    ‘A lot of people were talking in a bad way about the PA and saying they wanted the West Bank to be like Gaza,’ Ms Arar said.

    ‘There were people who had weapons and others who were money-laundering to support terrorism.

    In the region’s largest city, Nablus, Nasser al-Shaer, a former Manchester academic who was deputy prime minister in the short-lived Hamas Palestinian Authority government elected in 2006, said many of those released from detention in recent months were telling the same story – of torture, including beatings, being suspended from the ceiling and electric shocks.

    A spokeswoman at the British Consulate in Jerusalem, where aid to the PA is channelled, said UK police had already started the first courses

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....-Bank.html

    they are lucky. no 1 x a day, dipping 1 oz of water, 1 x in a minute, for a 15 minute period.

  36. canary

    Hilary drinking Pakistan koolaid tea. Strange, from the time of 9/11 Bush called Pakistan our ally, and violence was rare. Never been a secret Bin Laden crossing border for 8 years. Obama steps in, says Pakistan is the enemy, Hilllary & Kerry blame Bush for allowing Pakistan to get so bad. 11 monthes under Obama, and Pakistans month deadliest in 9 years, while Obama dithers. Numbers don’t lie. Just yesterdays extremist hippies.

    AP: Clinton says US `turning the page’ with Pakistan
    By National Security Writer Robert Burns Oct 28 2009

    ISLAMABAD – ON HER FIRST VISIT TO PAKISTAN as secretary of state, Hillary Rodham CLINTON on Wednesday sought to chip away at anti-Americanism in this predominantly Muslim nation, while applauding the government for taking on violent extremist forces.

    She also said the Obama administration intends to do more to support Pakistan on a wide range of issues, including economic development, energy generation, education and the environment. SHE SUGGESTED that the administration of former President George W. BUSH had FOCUSED TOO NARROWLY ON PAKISTAN’S vallue as AN ALLY in the war on terrorism, neglecting other aspects of the relationship.

    “We are turning the page on what has been for the past several years primarily a security, anti-terrorist agenda,” she told reporters on the flight from Washington..”

    “Maybe some in your country will say, No, I really didn’t have a good opinion (of the U.S.) before; I thought it was all about, `Are you going to be with us or against us on the war on terrorism.’ But this is a new day,” she said. Her comment was a veiled reference to BUSH’S DEMAND AFTER the 9/11 terrorist attacks that PAKISTAN decide whether it would be an ALLY OR or an ENEMY.

    Three hours away from Clinton’s appearance in the capital, a car bomb tore through a crowded market in the northwestern city of Peshawar, killing more than 80 people in the latest attack apparently aimed at denting public backing for an army offensive against al-Qaida and Taliban close to the Afghan border.

    (heh what taliban in Pakistan? what taliban in Afgan just bombed the UN? at the same time?)

    The Obama administration’s coordinator of policy on Pakistan and Afghanistan, Richard Holbrooke, has spent a lot of time here and in Afghanistan searching for effective ways of implementing President Barack Obama’s policy on containing extremism in both countries.

    (what Obama policy going on 11 monthes now)

    of the MOST SENSITIVE ISSUES facing Clinton is PAKISTAN’S UNEXPECTEDLY NEGATIVE RESPONSE TO passage of a bill providing $7.5 BILLION over five years FOR ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS in Pakistan. The Pakistani military was especially critical, saying the bill amounted to U.S. MEDDLING in Pakistan’s internal affairs.

    CLINTON arranged her three-day VISIT to get MAXIMUM PUBLIC EXPOSURE. She planned to MEET WITH STUDENTS, business leaders, opposition figures and other elements of Pakistani SOCIETY, .

    In addition to the U.S. partnership with nuclear-armed Islamabad in fending off insurgent efforts to destabilize the government, Washington sees Pakistan as central to its strategy in neighboring Afghanistan.

    (DUH. Bush did and done that)

    Taliban militants seeking to overthrow the government in Kabul find haven on the Pakistani side of the border.

    Last spring CLINTON RAISED EYEBROWS ii some quarters by telling Congress that the Pakistani government was abdicating to the TALIBAN and other extremist groups by not taking them on militarily.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....RvbnNheXN1

    This is absolutely nothing new, except Pakistan is getting bombed to death under the Obama army, and they have no choice to fight back, and it has nothing to do with Obama, sweet-talking.

  37. canary

    AP: Chavez’s new appeal to Venezuelans: Save energy
    By Christopher Toothaker Oct 27, 2009

    CARACAS, Venezuela – …Demonstrators angrily brandish surge-damaged blenders, televisions and stereos outside the offices of Venezuela’s state utility company.

    The leftist leader is using his near daily televised speeches to urge Venezuelans

    Chavez says…he’ll set an example by turning down the air conditioning and turning off more lights at the presidential palace.

    Wasting electricity is “a crime,” the president says,

    The socialist leader blamed part of the predicament on wealthy Venezuelans “Those who waste the most are the rich,” he said.

    Millions of poor Venezuelans help themelves to electricity for free by splicing wires onto power lines.

    Blackouts at hospitals have interrupted surgeries.

    Venezuela never experienced significant power outages or other problems

    before Chavez nationalized key electrical companies in 2007.

    Farmer Rafael Moreno said one blackout shut down the air conditioning system at his chicken farm in western Tachira state and killed more than 12,000 chickens.
    “I lost over $27,000 in a matter of four hours,” said Moreno

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....ghts_out_3

  38. canary

    YahooNewsExclusive Ap: Exclusive footage: Obama campaign revealed?

    In a presidential campaign, what do you make of a candidate that stands quietly listening to one of his advisors micromanage the way he tells the room to “Fire it up?”

    If this outtake clip is any indication, movie viewers will get little fireworks, but more moments of minutiae like this one (1:30 into the clip) where current Press Secretary Robert Gibbs and senior adviser David Axelrod have a minute-long discussion with Obama about how to “fire up” a crowd. Without an “a ha!” moment, viewers will be left to micro-analyze the candidate, the way Robert Gibbs analyzes the boss’ “Fire it up”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/.....ws_pl957_2

    I saw the book Renegade, written by one of Obama’s associates during the campain, at one of those resell store, andk skimmed thoughout. Most was taken from Obams’s speeches and books, but what was interesting by the author who favored Obama, was his ovbservations of Obama’s ego. He was very demanding, would have conversations, like, if she or he can do something for me I”ll speak to them. And that he made sure when he entered a room, that he was the center of attention, and he made sure of.
    Loud, bossy, etc.

  39. canary

    AFP: US eyes ‘compromise’ strategy in Afghanistan: report
    by Stephen Collinson Oct 28 2009

    WASHINGTON (AFP) – Six United Nations staff were killed meanwhile on Wednesday in a brazen attack on a guesthouse there

    The US capital was also buzzing after the resignation of a diplomat who publicly criticized the Afghan war.

    Matthew Hoh, 36, was the senior State Department official in Afghanistan’s Zabul province — a hotbed of Taliban militancy — until last month when he became the

    first US official known to have resigned in protest at the conflict.

    Hoh described the United States as “a supporting actor” in Afghanistan’s decades-old civil war

    The US president leaves Washington on November 11 and remains in the region for eight days, with stops in Japan, Singapore, China and South Korea.

    The latest attacks on US troops in Afghanistan, claimed by the Taliban,

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20.....1028124913

  40. canary

    YahooNews: Obama Name Offers No Magic for Selling Lot Next to Chicago Home
    John McCormick Wed Oct 28, 2009

    Oct. 28 (Bloomberg) — next to President Barack Obama’s Chicago home is on the market for almost double what the owners paid 19 months ago.

    The land was once owned by the wife of former fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, who later was convicted of influence peddling, and was part of a $1.75 million real estate deal that hurt Obama’s election campaign. The 50-by-150-foot (15-by-46- meter) lot is being offered for $1.3 million.

    The opportunity to live next to the president hasn’t helped sell the house on the other side of the Obama residence. Those neighbors set a $1.85 million price this week, seven weeks after putting their home up for bid.

    “The high-end market has taken more of a hit in this downturn,” said Jim Kinney, vice president of luxury home sales for Baird & Warner real estate in Chicago. “The whole stimulus package has been aimed at the bottom end of the market.”

    John Poulos, a lawyer, and his wife, Marjorie, paid $675,000 for the lot in March 2008, when they purchased it from 5050 S. Greenwood LLC, property records show. Michael Sreenan, a former attorney for Rezko, said he wholly owned that corporation.

    The land earlier was listed as part of the property the Obamas purchased in 2005, shortly after he was elected to the U.S. Senate. The sellers listed the home and lot separately, asking $1.95 million for the house and $625,000 for the landscaped side property.

    The Obamas bought their house for $1.65 million, and Rita Rezko purchased the lot for $625,000, its full asking price. She then sold one-sixth of the lot to the Obamas for $104,500 to help them create a larger buffer for their property.

    Rezko, a developer and Illinois fundraiser, was convicted in June 2008 for taking part in a scheme to extract kickbacks in exchange for influencing the award of state business under Governor Rod Blagojevich,

    The Obamas’ home has 6,400 square feet (600 square meters) of space. Obama, 48, and his family have spent one weekend there since the president took office Jan. 20.

    Neighborhood residents often tell her that they think the Obamas should purchase the vacant lot to expand the buffer around their home, she said.

    “I imagine he has more pressing problems right now,” Ashley-Bowman said.

    – With assistance from John Lippert and Brian Louis in Chicago. Editors: Flynn McRoberts, Brenda Batten.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomb.....5hbWVvZmY-

  41. BillK

    From an absolutely horrified New York Times:

    Newsman to Speak at Events of Group Opposed to Health Care Plan

    By Brian Stelter

    John Stossel, the newest star of the Fox Business Network, is also starring this week at a series of events orchestrated by opponents of a Democratic health care overhaul.

    On Thursday Mr. Stossel is expected to speak at three forums hosted by Americans for Prosperity, a conservative advocacy group, in three Arkansas cities. The group’s Web site says Mr. Stossel and others will “debate solutions and discuss the dangers of government-forced health care” at the forums.

    The unusual appearances come at a time when the sister network to Fox Business, the Fox News Channel, is facing fierce criticism from the White House and its allies. In recent days critics have leaped on Mr. Stossel’s speaking engagements as the latest evidence of conservative bias on the part of Fox, a unit of the News Corporation. The Obama administration has cast the network as a part of the political opposition.

    Most news organizations discourage participation at partisan political events. In its publicity material for the forums, Americans for Prosperity identifies Mr. Stossel a “veteran journalist.” But Fox says Mr. Stossel is not a part of its hard news division; rather, he is an analyst and host.

    In its responses to the White House and other critics, Fox has said there are differences between its journalists and its opinion program hosts. But the Obama administration and others have asserted that those lines are regularly blurred.

    In an interview Tuesday, Mr. Stossel said he was an activist — for “free markets.” He has long identified himself as a libertarian and has covered stories accordingly. Mr. Stossel joined Fox earlier this month , and will soon begin hosting a weekly program for Fox Business. He will also provide regular analysis on Fox News.

    Mr. Stossel had delivered speeches to political groups long before joining Fox. While working at ABC, where he was the co-anchor of “20/20,” he was allowed to deliver speeches to Americans for Prosperity and other organizations. An ABC spokesman said Mr. Stossel had a long-standing arrangement with the network to donate all money from speaking engagements to charity.

    On Tuesday, Mr. Stossel said, “My understanding is that Fox folks are free to give speeches.” A Fox spokesperson said all speeches given by employees require approval from the network, and said his Arkansas appearances were arranged before he was a Fox employee.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10.....28fox.html

    Yet “news people” can speak at pro-health care, pro-Union and just generally pro-liberal events all the time without being chastised.

    Not like that’s a shock or anything.

    Nice piece from the mouthpiece of the Obama administration.

    • BannedbytheTaliban

      I particularly like the willy-nilly mention of “fierce criticism from the White House” pointed at FoxNews, as though it is justified or even based on fact. If only conservatives were as good or had such dutiful mouthpieces for instant revisionism.

  42. proreason

    Absolute MUST READ.

    WSG reviews the Freakonomics Guys cut on global warming.

    This will make your day!!

    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....34318.html

  43. canary

    BBB: WARNING: 2010 Census Cautions from the Better Business Bureau Be Cautious About Giving Info to Census Workers
    by Susan Johnson
    With the U.S. Census process beginning, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) advises people to be cooperative, but cautious, so as not to become a victim of fraud or identity theft.
    The first phase of the 2010 U.S. Census is under way as workers have begun verifying the addresses of households across the country. Eventually, more than 140,000 U.S. Census workers will count every person in the United States and will gather information about every person living at each address including name, age, gender, race, and other relevant data.
    The big question is – how do you tell the difference between a U.S. Census worker and a con artist? Better Business Bureau offers the following advice:
    If a U.S. Census worker knocks on your door, they will have a badge, a handheld device, a Census Bureau canvas bag, and a confidentiality notice. Ask to see their identification and their badge before answering their questions. However, you should never invite anyone you don’t know into your home.
    Census workers are currently only knocking on doors to verify address information. Do not give your Social Security number, credit card or banking information to anyone, even if they claim they need it for the U.S. Census.
    REMEMBER, NO MATTER WHAT THEY ASK, YOU REALLY ONLY NEED TO TELL THEM HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE AT YOUR ADDRESS.
    While the Census Bureau might ask for basic financial information, such as a salary range, YOU DON’T HAVE TO ANSWER ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION. The Census Bureau will not ask for Social Security, bank account, or credit card numbers, nor will employees solicit donations. Any one asking for that information is NOT with the Census Bureau.
    AND REMEMBER, THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS DECIDED NOT TO WORK WITH ACORN ON GATHERING THIS INFORMATION..
    No Acorn worker should approach you saying he/she is with the Census Bureau.
    Eventually, Census workers may contact you by telephone, mail, or in person at home. However, the

    Census Bureau will NOT contact you by Email, so be on the lookout for Email scams impersonating the Census.
    Never click on a link or open any attachments in an Email that are supposedly from the U.S. Census Bureau.

    For more advice on avoiding identity theft and fraud, visit http://www.bbb.org

    ****** and other relevant data.****** I don’t believe there is any other relevant data. Didn’t know you had to give your name either. A Senator at the time, said we did not have to tell the type car we drove, and all the extra questions that were added. My congressman Can’t remember, but I wouldn’t even talk to them, when they came to my door. Did it through the mail. So, this is insanity what’s it’s going to cost $$$$$
    Don’t forget, they DO NOT DO BACKGROUND CHECKS ON WORKERS.

  44. canary

    AP: Feds: Leader of radical Islam group killed in raid
    By Ed White Oct 28 2009

    DETROIT – Federal authorities on Wednesday arrested several members of a radical Sunni Islam group in the U.S., killing one of its leaders at a shootout in a Michigan warehouse

    trying to arrest Luqman Ameen Abdullah, 53, at a Dearborn warehouse

    FBI said Abdullah, also known as Christopher Thomas, was an imam, or prayer leader, of a radical group named Ummah whose primary mission is to establish an Islamic state within the United States.

    Leone said members of the national group mostly are black and some
    converted to Islam while in prisons across the United States.

    Seven of the 10 people charged with Abdullah were in custody, Three were still at large.

    The group believes that a separate Islamic state in the U.S. would be controlled by Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rap Brown,

    who is serving a life sentence in a federal prison in Colorado for shooting two police officers in Georgia in 2000, Leone said. Al-Amin, a VETERAN of the BLACK POWER MOVEMENT, started the group after he converted to Islam in prison.

    “They’re not taking their cues from overseas,” said Jimmy Jones, a professor of world religions at Manhattanville College and a longtime
    ~~~Muslim prison chaplain. “This group is very much American born and bred.”~~~

    was believed to include a couple of dozen mosques around the country. Ummah is now dwarfed in numbers and influence by other

    African-American Muslim groups, particularly the mainstream Sunnis who were led by Imam W.D. Mohammed, who recently died.

    an FBI dog was also killed during the shootout.

    Abdullah’s mosque is in a brick duplex on a quiet, residential street in Detroit.

    men congregated on the porch Wednesday night and subsequently attacked a photographer from The Detroit News who was taking pictures from across the street.

    ((no mention if those were muslims were arrested for crossing the street and bloodying up the reporter, after all Sharia law))

    Imad Hamad, regional director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in Dearborn, said the FBI had briefed him

    “We know that this is not something to be projected as something against Muslims,” Hamad said.

    A source said that Abdullah regularly beat children inside the mosque with sticks, including a boy who was “unable to walk for several days,”

    The source, according to the agent, regularly listened to a recording of a 2004 sermon in which Abdullah said, “Do not carry a pistol if you’re going to give it up to police. You give them a bullet!”

    In January 2009, members were evicted from a former mosque for failing to pay property taxes.

    Dawud Walid, executive director of the Michigan chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the federal authorities’ description of Abdullah’s extremist links didn’t match what he knew of Abdullah.

    “I knew him to be charitable,” Walid said. “He would open up the mosque to homeless people. He used to run a soup kitchen and feed indigent people. … I knew nothing of him that was related to any nefarious or criminal behavior.”

    Abdullah had a wife and children, Walid said. A phone number for the family had been disconnected.

    AP writers David Runk, Corey Williams, David N. Goodman & Rachel Zoll
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....VhZGVyb2Y-

    Can anyone name one time in Obama’s entire life he did not associate with muslims and criminals? Except he’s never had an American name.

  45. Rusty Shackleford

    See if you can guess what’s missing from this “very imformative” AP article:

    Boeing picks South Carolina for 2nd 787 line

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....DMQ–

    By DANIEL LOVERING and GEORGE TIBBITS, Associated Press Writers Daniel Lovering And George Tibbits, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 45 mins ago

    SEATTLE – Boeing Co. will open a second assembly line for its long-delayed 787 jetliner in South Carolina, expanding beyond its longtime manufacturing base in Washington state to take advantage of economic incentives and a nonunion work force.

    The Chicago-based airplane maker said Wednesday it chose the site in North Charleston over Everett, Wash., because it best suited plans to boost production of the highly anticipated jet, designed to carry up to 250 passengers.

    The decision ended an interstate competition for the huge factory, with South Carolina prevailing over the state where Boeing has built airplanes for decades. It hands South Carolina production of a plane crucial to Boeing’s future but one plagued by problems stemming partly from the company’s reliance on suppliers spanning the globe.

    South Carolina offered Boeing $170 million in incentives and relief from sales taxes on things like fuel used in test flights.

    The move wasn’t entirely unexpected. Boeing already operates a factory in North Charleston that makes 787 parts and owns a 50-percent stake in another plant that also produces sections of the plane, Boeing’s best-selling new aircraft to date.

    About 55 airlines have ordered some 840 of the planes since the program was launched in 2003 — far more than any other Boeing plane at the same stage of development.

    Boeing also has long complained about the business climate in Washington and frequent strikes by production workers. At Boeing’s plant in North Charleston, workers last month voted against continued representation by the International Association of Machinists.

    North Carolina, Kansas, Texas and California were also viewed a competitors for the plant. But Boeing said last week it had narrowed the choices to Washington and South Carolina.

    Boeing ultimately could decide to move all 787 production away from Everett, said analyst Scott Hamilton of Leeham Co. The failure of Boeing and the union to reach a no-strike agreement meant Charleston was “a foregone conclusion.”

    More ominously, Boeing is expected to decide in three to five years on replacement planes for its best-selling 737 and 777 models and where they will be built.

    “Over the course of the next decade and-a-half you could see Boeing being just a shadow of itself here,” he said, referring to Washington.

    Give up? Well, except for a rather snotty hint on the first line, referring to non-union workforces, that’s what’s missing. See, Boeing, like GM, has had it’s share of labor disputes and because of those disputes, runs a kind of “on-again/off-again” relationship with regard to keeping a workforce, often laying off heavily when the demand is lower.

    So they have decided enough is enough. Like Billy Joel said it, “I’mmmm movin’ out”

    UNIONS…are the reason Boeing is opting to leave pretty much entirely. Not that SC is anti-union. However, I’ll bet you’ll see a much better workforce/management relationship in the coming years at Boeing. There will most likely be fewer layoffs, salaries and benefits will most likely be very attractive and the workforce will be driven by a sense of pride…much like Boeing of the 50’s and 60’s before the existing unions went nutso and demanded daycare centers and coverage for grandparents of employees (I’m exaggerating to make a point).

    There is a place for unions but when that function threatens the very jobs they hold, there’s something wrong there.

    So Boeing comes to Charleston. I’m glad to welcome them to a State that is one of the poorest and will eventually, if done right, become very, very prosperous. However, I fully expect some greedy politician to see its presence as a cash cow and do what the northeast did to GE, Vought, Grumman, etc.

    Of course, the next relocation from SC would be…..anyplace but US soil. Or the Western world for that matter.

  46. Rusty Shackleford

    The WSJ tells it like it is, I think:

    Gloom Spreads on Economy, but GOP Doesn’t Gain

    http://finance.yahoo.com/banki.....oesnt-gain

    Americans are growing increasingly pessimistic about the economy after a mild upswing of attitudes in September. But Republicans haven’t been able to profit politically from the economic gloom, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.

    The survey found a country in a decidedly negative mood, nearly a year after the election of President Barack Obama. For the first time during the Obama presidency, a majority of Americans sees the country as being on the wrong track.

    Fifty-eight percent of those polled say the economic slide still has a ways to go, up from 52% in September and back to the level of pessimism expressed in July. Only 29% said the economy had “pretty much hit bottom,” down from 35% last month.

    Can anybody explain this sentence to me:

    But a dark national view of how everybody in Washington is conducting the public’s business appears to be preventing Republicans from benefiting from concerns about the direction of the country or the Democrat-led government’s handling of the economy, as the minority party often does.

    In fact, disapproval of the Republican Party actually has ticked upward, along with the public’s general pessimism. Asked which political party should control Congress after next year’s midterm elections, Democrats now hold a clear edge over the GOP, 46% to 38%, a month after the Republicans were nearly as popular. In September, the Democratic edge was 43% to 40%.

    “There was a bounce-back surge for Republicans, and that’s stalled,” said Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster who conducted the Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll with Democratic pollster Peter Hart.

    “The mood in America may be blue, but attitudes toward Washington are just jet black,” Mr. Hart said.

    You got that right, Mr Hart. And….was that a racist remark? (just askin’)

  47. BillK

    From the Wall Street Journal, a reminder that 9/11 part two could only be a lapse of judgement away…

    FAA Reacted Slowly to Errant Jet

    By Cam SImpson and Andy Pasztor

    The Federal Aviation Administration violated its own rules by taking more than 40 minutes to alert the military after losing communication with a Northwest Airlines flight last week, according to officials familiar with internal reviews under way at several federal agencies.

    The delay has sparked consternation within the military, concern within the FAA and special oversight by the White House, these officials said, particularly because such time lags were supposed to be eliminated as a result of the lessons learned from the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. In the event of a hijacking, the military would order fighters into the air to intercept an aircraft and possibly shoot it down.

    In an interview, the man charged with protecting the skies above North America, U.S. Air Force Gen. Victor E. Renuart Jr., said he was displeased with the way the situation evolved, stressing that notification should have been quicker and those involved should have been more agile in their response.

    In a statement to The Wall Street Journal Wednesday evening, FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt said air-traffic controllers “should have notified [the military] more quickly that the plane was not responding.” Local controllers apparently became so focused on trying to re-establish contact that they failed to alert higher-level FAA managers about the problem in a timely manner.

    “We are conducting an internal review,” Mr. Babbitt said, “and will require retraining on proper notification procedures when we lose radio contact with aircraft.”

    Gen. Renuart declined to discuss specifics about how long it took the FAA on Oct. 21 to alert the two military commands he leads about Northwest Flight 188. Gen. Renuart heads the U.S. Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command.

    Two other officials familiar with continuing reviews inside the government said it took at least 40 minutes for the FAA to formally contact the military over the aviation agency’s Domestic Events Network, known inside the government as the “DEN.” The emergency, 24-hour, conference-call network is used by the FAA to notify the military and myriad other agencies when “there is an emerging air-related problem or incident,” according to government rules.

    Although there may have been earlier contact with the Transportation Security Administration, the DEN notification is considered critical during any potential emergency, officials said Wednesday. One official suggested the time lag was substantially longer than 40 minutes.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....14581.html

    I’m sure al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations are taking notes as we speak.

    But it’s all OK:

    In his statement, Mr. Babbitt suggested controllers may not have alerted the military sooner because the plane didn’t transmit emergency messages or show other significant signs of a hijacking. The Northwest flight “continued on course without deviation,” he said. “The plane followed its filed flight plan, the transponder remained on and the plane did not send any emergency or distress signals.

    How many planes on 9/11 shut off their transponders or sent emergency or distress signals?

    If I remember correctly, zero.

    (Though obviously they did deviate from their flight plans.)

    But I wonder how many juicy targets are located within or just a few miles off published flight plans?

  48. Rusty Shackleford

    This just makes me angry, and sick:

    Obama honors fallen Americans at Dover

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_.....n_soldiers

    By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 40 mins ago

    DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, Del. – Standing in the pre-dawn darkness, President Barack Obama saw the real cost of the war in Afghanistan: The Americans who return in flag-covered cases while much of the nation sleeps in peace.

    In a midnight dash to this Delaware base, where U.S. forces killed overseas come home, Obama honored the return of 18 fallen Americans Thursday.

    Midnight dash..as in while they were out on a burger excursion and had a brainstorm: “Hey, Mr President….let’s do this: You go to Dover and salute those caskets…then….then….the Americans will at least THINK you have some shred of respect.

    Honestly, such an abuse of his position. Anyone with any ounce of integrity KNOWS that such a display is for the purpose of display only. He feels neither responsibility, nor guilt over his delays in Afghanistan and the ONLY reason he did this is is for a photo-op…a very bad idea…and by virtue of the clean-shaven look and sharp suit, there is no “midnight dash” aspect to it at all. He’s a scumbag in nice clothes…a pimp..are charlatan.

    All were killed in Afghanistan this week, a brutal stretch that turned October into the most deadly month for U.S. troops since the war began.

    The dramatic image of a president on the tarmac was a portrait not witnessed in years. Former President George W. Bush spent lots of time with grieving military families but never went to Dover to meet the remains coming off the cargo plane. Obama did so with the weight of knowing he may soon send more troops off to war.

    Note the obligatory slam on Bush. “Former President George W. Bush spent lots of time with grieving military families but never went to Dover to meet the remains coming off the cargo plane. ” As if observing the caskets coming off the plane vs. actually consoling families is somehow….”better”.

    It certainly is more flamboyant and visual…the kind of “impact” a narcissistic five-year-old would key in on.

    For all the talk of his potential troop increase — maybe 40,000, maybe some other large figure — Obama got a grim reminder of the number that counts: one.

    As in “I won”. “I am the one” “Look, here I am” “look at me

    His name was Dale R. Griffin, an Army sergeant from Terre Haute, Ind. He was the last fallen soldier to come before Obama. And his remains were the only ones to be honored in full view of the media with the permission of his family. An 18-year ban on such coverage was lifted this year under Obama’s watch.

    The president led a team of officials onto the gray C-17 cargo plane carrying Griffin, and then back off, where they stood for several minutes in a line of honor.

    Truly, the mark of a “real” leader.

    It was not quite 4 a.m.

    Wait a minute, I thought it was just past midnight. What gives?

    The sky was black and a yellowish light came from poles flanking the flight. The only sounds were a whirring power unit on the plane and the clicking of cameras. A blue vehicle carrying members of Griffin’s family pulled up.

    As such poignant imagery. Such descriptive writing…such….such……

    The president saluted as six soldiers in camouflage and black berets carried Griffin’s remains into a waiting white van.

    The military calls the process a dignified transfer, not a ceremony, because there is nothing to celebrate. The cases are not labeled coffins, although they come off looking that way, enveloped in flags.

    In keeping with one of the most solemn of military traditions, mr pesident, in case you were not aware and your presence is NOT welcome, nor appropriate. Something that if you were anything other than self-involved, you would f—-ing KNOW.

    On a clear fall night, the president zipped to Dover in about 40 minutes. He immediately spoke privately in a chapel with all the family members.

    The solemn process of transferring remains of 15 soldiers and three Drug Enforcement Agency agents unfolded in four separate movements. Obama took part in all of them. A chaplain offered prayers for the fallen, the crews that brought them home, the families who lost a loved one, and a nation embroiled in war.

    By 4:45 a.m., the president had touched back down on the South Lawn, where even an active White House was sleepy.

    He walked inside, alone.

    A president of two inherited wars,

    THERE IT IS!!!

    Obama is winding down U.S. involvement in Iraq, but the troubled war in Afghanistan is only widening. It has become the dominant foreign policy change of his early presidency. The stability of Afghanistan remains in doubt while the support of the American people is waning.

    S’cuse me? As I read it, American support is ANGRY that you are DITHERING and this is a very cruel slap in the face of the American military in order to try to salvage your image, you prick.

    At least 55 U.S. forces have been killed in October. That’s the deadliest month of the war for U.S. forces since the 2001 invasion to oust the Taliban.

    Obama is faced with a crucial moment: How to keep al-Qaida terrorists from taking root again in Afghanistan without sinking more American lives and money into a war that isn’t working. He is in the midst of an intense review of his war strategy. Aides say he is weeks away from making an announcement.

    Ah, plenty of time for more photo-ops though while he watches as more caskets come off the planes in a “war that’s all Bush’s fault. My god….this is beyond the pale.

    The president apparently wanted to go to Dover now given the enormous blow to U.S. forces just this week.

    And had absolutely nothing with is poll numbers slipping into the subsoil for his obvious lack of support for the troops. I wonder how long he practiced his salute in front of the mirror, and did he have a coach for that?

    On Monday, a U.S. military helicopter crashed returning from the scene of a firefight with suspected Taliban drug traffickers in western Afghanistan, killing 10 Americans including three DEA agents. In a separate crash, four more U.S. troops were killed when two helicopters collided over southern Afghanistan. On Tuesday, eight soldiers were killed when their personnel vehicles was struck by roadside bombs in Afghanistan’s Kandahar province.

    Obama has upped the U.S. commitment in Afghanistan to 68,000 troops and is considering sending a large addition next year, but fewer than the 40,000 troops requested by his commander there, U.S. officials tell The Associated Press. He holds his next war council meeting with the Joints Chiefs of Staff on Friday.

    Bush once said that he felt the appropriate way to show his respect was to meet with family members in private.

    You got that right. No grandiose display of false modesty for the cameras.

    The lifting of the ban on media coverage of bodies returning to Dover was done to keep the human cost of war from being shielded from the public.

    No it wasn’t. It was the media’s direct assault on Bush’s presidency and an attack on him, personally.

    Obama saw it directly

    This overly dramatic, overly sympathetic and disrespectful piece in the news should be stricken and burned. On the other hand, it does show that he’s a grandstanding, attention grabbing, self-involved twit, 24/7.

    I can’t post the photo that accompanies the article of him saluting the caskets carrying the bodies of American Heroes as they were taken off the plane. But it just makes me wretch.

    • canary

      At Obama’s Jacksonville party in front of Navy, they reported how “Obama ‘hand-signed’ letters. Bush always hand wrote & signed the letters. Obama’s too busy having someone write his score cards & hold his black-berry while he’s golfing. I can’t express my dislike for Obama.

    • proreason

      They poll tested the visit, the time of day, and the feminine salute.

    • canary

      Obama’s salute’s hand was positioned wrong. Lack of military experience. He needs more practice in the mirror. Amazing the news headlines keeps saying he is “standing vigil” as if he’s still standing there at guard?
      All show, he’s not the sensitive, mourning type.

    • canary

      oooh. Maybe Obama was doing some kind of muslim style salute

  49. Rusty Shackleford

    misposted

  50. BillK

    Is the only remotely non-left wing media source giving in to pressure?

    From a delighted Associated Press:

    Fox News Channel, Obama administration talking

    By David Bauder

    NEW YORK – Fox News Channel and the Obama administration are talking.

    The network confirmed a Politico report that Fox news executive Michael Clemente met at the White House on Wednesday with Robert Gibbs, President Barack Obama’s press secretary. There were no details given about the meeting.

    Fox has been battling with the administration, which contends the network operates more like a wing of the Republican Party than a news organization.

    The meeting came a day after Fox anchor Shepard Smith apologized for a “lack of balance” following a political report where the Republican candidate for New Jersey governor was interviewed and the Democratic incumbent wasn’t.

    Fox correspondent Shannon Bream had wrapped up a live interview with GOP candidate Chris Christie on Smith’s afternoon news show Tuesday when the anchor asked, “When will you be interviewing Jon Corzine?”
    Bream replied that despite “multiple requests,” Corzine hadn’t made himself available for an interview.

    “I didn’t know that was about to happen,” Smith then said. “My apologies for the lack of balance there. If I had control, it wouldn’t have happened.”

    Smith is the network’s chief news anchor and has even angered Fox viewers with some of his stories, including expressions of anger at the Bush administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....ox_apology

    Still:

    Meanwhile, Fox received support Wednesday from an unlikely source: CNN’s prime-time host Campbell Brown. She interviewed Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett and asked whether the White House considered left-leaning MSNBC biased as well. Jarrett wouldn’t speak about the network.

    She “seems loathe to admit that MSNBC has a bias,” Brown said. “And that is where I think the White House loses all credibility on this issue.”

    If the White House wants to talk about bias in the media, officials “should elevate the conversation and talk about bias on the right and on the left,” Brown said. “Because when you just target one side, you reveal your own bias — that you are only critical of those who are critical of you.”

    Kudos to Campbell Brown for raising the subject.

  51. BillK

    Today’s Sarah Palin hit piece, from Politico:

    Iowa Republicans wince at Palin fee

    By Jonathan Martin

    A conservative Iowa group’s effort to lure Sarah Palin to its banquet next month has had an unintended effect: Rather than exciting conservatives about the prospect of a visit from the former Alaska governor, the group’s plan to raise a six-figure sum to bring her to the state has GOP activists recoiling at the thought of paying to land a politician’s speaking appearance.

    The Iowa Family Policy Center’s effort to cobble together $100,000 for Palin would represent a striking departure from customary practice in the first-in-the-nation state, these Republicans say, noting that a generation of White House hopefuls has paid their own way to boost their party and presidential ambitions.

    Were Palin to appear in Iowa on November 21st, it would mark her first trip back to the state since she spoke to a handful of rallies there last fall as the GOP’s vice-presidential nominee. She would offer powerful counter-programming to another major political event that night: The Iowa Democratic Party’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner with Vice-President Joe Biden as the headliner.

    But representatives from other Iowa-based political advocacy groups said they would never consider shelling out money for what many politicians see as a privilege: the opportunity to speak to a room full of sure-fire caucus-goers who often serve as precinct captains and can be instrumental to a presidential candidate’s success.

    “If somebody tells me they want me to pay an appearance fee, it tells me they’re not very serious about running for president,” said Ed Failor, Jr., president of Iowans for Tax Relief and an influential GOP insider.
    “I found it really, really odd,” Failor said.

    He noted that his group had not and never would pay for a politician to speak—pointing out the obvious in-kind contribution any potential presidential hopeful receives by appearing in the state that kicks off the presidential nominating process.

    “They come and show up here because they want to be relevant in Iowa,” he said. …

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politi.....tico/28873

    However, if you read further in the article, you’ll find this sentence buried down deep:

    There is no indication that the former governor has requested a fee or that her decision whether to attend is being influenced by whether she’ll be paid.

    Speculation? Nah…

    • Rusty Shackleford

      The part no one sees: Joe Biden collects a fee as well…as all persons who appear at private affairs do…unless specifically agreed to otherwise.

      Additionally, it costs the American Taxpayer (that’s me and you for those in Rio Linda) tens of thousands for Clueless Joe to hop on board a VIP transport, take the SS with him, the motorcade, the food, the support, the everything, everytime he goes to a personal appearance junket.

      Sadly, the newsies clearly paint the one-sided “Ugh, Joe goooood. Sarah—baaaaddd” picture. But, unless her transportation is taken care of by the people inviting her to the engagement, she’s got to foot the bill for that herself.

  52. BillK

    The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank calls Jim Inhofe a “flat earther” for not giving into the lie that is Global Warming:

    A senator in a hostile climate

    By Dana Milbank

    It must be very lonely being the last flat-earther.

    Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, committed climate-change denier, found himself in just such a position Tuesday morning as the Senate environment committee, on which he is the ranking Republican, took up legislation on global warming. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) was in talks with Democrats over a compromise bill — the traitor! And as Inhofe listened, fellow Republicans on the committee — turncoats! — made it clear that they no longer share, if they ever did, Inhofe’s view that man-made global warming is the “greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people.”

    “Eleven academies in industrialized countries say that climate change is real; humans have caused most of the recent warming,” admitted Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.). “If fire chiefs of the same reputation told me my house was about to burn down, I’d buy some fire insurance.”

    An oil-state senator, David Vitter (R-La), said that he, too, wants to “get us beyond high-carbon fuels” and “focus on conservation, nuclear, natural gas and new technologies like electric cars.” And an industrial-state senator, George Voinovich (R-Ohio), acknowledged that climate change “is a serious and complex issue that deserves our full attention.”

    Then there was poor Inhofe. “The science is more definitive than ever? You keep saying that because you want to believe it so much,” he said bitterly. He offered to furnish a list of scientists who once believed in climate change but “who are solidly on the other side right now.” The science, he said, “already has shifted” against global-warming theory. “Science is not settled! Everyone knows it’s not settled!”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....02845.html

    The fact that Inhofe is the only Republican on the committee that recognizes Global Warming for the scam it is is yet another reason why the GOP does not deserve to win anything in 2010; remind me how they’re any different from the Democrats?

    • canary

      My disdain for wimpy Republicans is really growing. McCain’s wimpy remarks. Swarznegar going on the media with a loud voice to turn the water on, then turning around and not signing to get it turned on, is an Obama tactic.
      Inhofe is so pro-defense, and I think he’d make a good President. This should be our main focus with the global threats.
      The U.S. will burn up from getting bombed before it burns from the sun.

  53. canary

    AP: Obama considering scaled-down Afghan war plan
    By Anne Gearan And Matthew Lee Oct 29 2009

    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is considering sending large numbers of additional U.S. forces to Afghanistan next year but fewer than his war commander, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, prefers, U.S. officials said.

    Senior White House officials stressed, however, that the president has not settled on any new troop numbers and continues to debate other strategic approaches to the 8-year-old Afghanistan war. The officials say Obama has not yet firmly settled on the narrowed option or any other as his final choice for how to overhaul the war effort.

    Any expansion of the war will displease some congressional Democrats. If Obama does not meet McChrystal’s request, Republicans are likely to accuse Obama of failing to give McChrystal all of what he needs.
    action of administration officials, led by Vice President Joe Biden, who contend that much of the U.S. national security objective in Afghanistan could be accomplished by concentrating on strikes at al-Qaida along the Pakistan border.

    That approach would hunt terrorists with techniques such as missile-loaded pilotless drones, and could require little or no additional U.S. manpower.

    Gates has bridged both sides, officials said. Long wary of a large U.S. presence that could too easily look like an occupation army, he has suggested recently that he could support a carefully designed expansion.

    “I think that the analytical phase is … coming to an end,” Gates said last week in Europe. “Probably over the next two or three weeks we’re going to be considering specific options and teeing them up for a decision by the president.”

    As for McChrystal, he already begun carrying out elements of his targeted counterinsurgency plan, which focuses on the volatile south and east of the country and emphasizes protecting civilians even if it means allowing individual militants to escape.

    AP White House Correspondent Jennifer Loven and writer Ben Feller in Washington and National Security Writer Robert Burns traveling in Islamabad contributed to this report.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....afghanista

    “emphasizes protecting civilians even if it means allowing individual militants to escape.”

    Our militaryy are innocent civilians and hero’s to the entire world compared to this breed of terrorists. No more troops allowing militants to escape. Bomb them.

    “and teeing them up for a decision by the president.”
    cute. wright messages on the golf balls, post written goals on golf-holes.

    • Rusty Shackleford

      The headline, Obama considering scaled-down Afghan war plan is intentionally misleading. The average schmoe would read it and think that the boy is intending to scale back operations in Afghanistan.

      This is nothing less than an indicator that the writer is in the tank for Obama.

      For, when you increase the number of troops in a war zone, the effect is not of scaled DOWN…but scaled UP, as the article goes on to indicate. But a “scaled down Afghan war plan” is nothing but a clever word game for Ann and Matt, the writers.

      Truth is, the boy is definitely between the proverbial rock and a hard place. However, if we were ever to take him as a man of his word (I know, it didn’t sound right in my head, either) then we would’ve assumed that he would pull out of Iraq, transfer those troops to operations in Afghanistan and make a wholehearted effort to go get Bin Ladin post haste.

      But noooooOOOOOooooooo.

      Instead we have nebulous activity, unclear intentions, a plethora of words that say nothing and mean nothing as all the while, troops are in need of reinforcements, supplies and equipment. But, as we have all seen, his enthusiasm for making the hard choices is very much to his disliking. In fact, there is none and he would prefer to not have to make them. I won’t give him the credit to say as he’s “agonizing” over any of it, for it’s my fervent belief he doesn’t care. Care, that is, except how to make him look politically adroit and keep his street cred at the same time.

      Those expecting this jerkoff to man up are in for a huge disappointment as instead of a clear path to anything in Afghanistan, it will be fraught with dips and doodles and heretofores and notwithstandings and other such lawyer contingency parlance. And once again the public will be left wondering what he actually said.

      But inaction in Afghanistan is all part of his plan. And once the inaction’s result has been achieved, he will blame the whole thing on some other problem or person or group of persons and say, “based on that, I have no choice but to abandon any hope of success in Afghanistan”.

      And there you will have it.

      Our proud military being the political tool of a child president. Jimmy Carter in such fine redux. Clinton, without the balls. (meaning her).

      It’s criminal and most likely will have the opposite effect than what he’s expecting. Only thing is, that quite possibly the moose limbs will see the weakness, exploit it and plan a field trip to Obama-land and blow some innocent people up.

      But that too, will be Bush’s fault, no doubt.

    • canary

      Many of the misleading tabloid natured headlines the main media is using anger me too, as alot of people just read the headlines.

  54. canary

    AP: Review finds 9/11 Potomac exercise was ill-advised
    By Eileen Sullivan Oct 27, 2009

    WASHINGTON – Holding a training exercise near the Pentagon on Sept. 11 this year was ill-advised, but it did not violate Coast Guard policies, an internal review found.

    on the anniversary of the 2001 terror attacks.

    The chain of false reports on television and online raised fears in the capital that Washington might be under attack eight years to the day after a hijacked plane crashed into the Pentagon and two others slammed into New York’s World Trade Center towers.

    CNN reported 10 shots had been fired on a suspicious vessel, based on information it heard over the network’s police scanner, used to monitor law enforcement radio traffic.

    Fox News also reported the shots, which were said to be on the section of river nearest to the Pentagon where President Barack Obama was attending a 9/11 anniversary.

    As a result, FBI AGENTS RUSHED TO THE SCENE; the COAST GUARD ORDERED ONE OF ITS HELICOPTERS based at Reagan National Airport to fly over the river TO INVESTGATE the reports of shots, and the FAA GROUNDED 17 FLIGHTS DEPARTING from the airport, which is located on the Potomac.

    ~~The Coast Guard unit that conducted the training exercise was not aware that the president would be traveling to and from a memorial service nearby,~~~

    Papp added that it was also ILL-ADVISED TO CONTINUE the training after the Coast Guard had received inquiries about possible gunshots. The unit instead made an onsite decision to complete the final two of its seven training scenarios.

    ~~The exercise was originally scheduled for Sept. 4, but it was postponed several times for reasons such as crew shortages and a short notice request for security support during one of the president’s trips within the Washington region. On Sept. 11, the Coast Guard unit was not asked to provide security support for any of the memorial events that day.

    Station Washington was created after the 9/11 attacks to provide additional security in the region.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....ard_sept11

    Whew! what a close call if the nearby President’s life was in trouble. Obama has allowed our country’s security system to go back to pre-11 mentality.

  55. canary

    AP: It’s alive! End-of-life counseling in health bill
    By Alonso-zaldivar Oct 29 2009

    WASHINGTON – It’s alive. The Medicare end-of-life planning provision that 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said was tantamount to “death panels” for seniors is staying in the latest Democratic health care bill unveiled Thursday.

    The provision allows Medicare to pay for voluntary counseling to help beneficiaries deal with the complex and painful decisions families face when a loved one is approaching death.

    But when House Democrats proposed this summer to pay doctors for end-of-life counseling, it touched off a wave of suspicion and anger.

    Prominent Republicans singled it out as a glaring example of government overreach.

    Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, at the time a lead negotiator on health care legislation, told constituents at a town hall meeting they had good reason to question the proposal.

    “I don’t have any problem with things like living wills, but they ought to be done within the family,” he said. “We should not have a government program that determines you’re going to pull the plug on grandma.”

    Thursday, the sponsor of the provision said the barrage of criticism may have actually helped.

    “There is nothing more basic than giving someone the option of speaking with their doctor about how they want to be treated in the case of an emergency,” said Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore. “I think the outrageous and vindictive attacks may have backfired to help raise awareness about this problem, which is why it’s been kept in the bill.”

    The legislation would allow Medicare to pay for a counseling session with a doctor or clinical professional once every five years.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....l2ZWVuZC0-

  56. canary

    AP: Passports linked to 9/11 found along Afghan border
    By Nahal Toosi Oct 30 2009

    SHERWANGAI, Pakistan – Pakistani soldiers battling their way into a Taliban stronghold along the Afghan border have seized passports that may be linked to 9/11 suspects

    The military on Thursday took foreign and local journalists for a first look inside the largely lawless territory

    Soldiers displayed passports seized in the operation, among them a German document belonging to a man named Said Bahaji… thought to have been a member of the Hamburg cell that conceived the 9/11 attacks. Bahaji is believed to have fled Germany

    The passport included a tourist visa for Pakistan and a stamp indicating he’d arrived in the southern city of Karachi on Sept. 4, 2001.

    Another passport, from Spain, bears the name of Raquel Burgos Garcia. Spanish media have reported that a woman with the same name is married to Amer Azizi, an alleged al-Qaida member from Morocco suspected in both the 9/11 attacks and the Madrid train bombings in 2004.

    Her family in Madrid has had no news of her since 2001, according to Spanish media. Her passport included visas to India and Iran

    The U.S. has maintained for years that South Waziristan and other parts of the rugged frontier have sheltered Osama bin Laden and his senior lieutenants.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton… said Pakistan squandered opportunities over the years to kill or capture al-Qaida leaders

    “I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn’t get them if they really wanted to,” Clinton said in an interview with Pakistani journalists in Lahore. “Maybe that’s the case. Maybe they’re not gettable. I don’t know.”

    Although the military spent months using airstrikes to soften up targets in South Waziristan, nearly two weeks into the ground offensive it has captured only a few areas, none with significant strategic value.

    Yet, he added, “If somebody chooses even to cross Mount Everest, he will be able to do it. So there are going to be a few, changing their disguise — taking care of their beards and long hair — they will be able to get out.”

    ~~Civilians were nowhere to be seen during Thursday’s trip — some 155,000 have left the region in the past few months. South Waziristan normally has about 500,000 people.~~~~

    Officials assured reporters the civilians had left those areas.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....pbg–

  57. canary

    AP: Ethics panel starts probes of 2 Dems, gets hacked
    By Writer Larry Margasak Oct 30 2009

    WASHINGTON – …The committee said it is investigating whether Rep. Maxine Waters used her influence to help a bank in which her husband owned stock, and whether the couple benefited as a result. Separately, the panel is investigating whether Rep. Laura Richardson failed to disclose required information on her financial disclosure forms and received special treatment from a lender.

    As the House was conducting scheduled votes Thursday, ethics chairwoman Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., went to the microphone to announce that a confidential weekly report of the committee from July had leaked out in a case of “cyber-hacking.”

    A committee statement said its security was breached through “peer to peer file sharing software” by a junior employee who was working from home. The staff member was fired.

    The Washington Post reported in its online edition Thursday that the document was disclosed on a publicly accessible computer network and made available to the newspaper by a source familiar with such networks.

    ~~The Post reported that nearly half the members of the House Appropriations defense subcommittee were under scrutiny.

    said Richardson…”Like 4.3 million Americans in the last year who faced financial problems because of a personal crisis like a divorce, death in the family, unexpected job and living changes and an erroneous property sale, all of which I have experienced in the span of slightly over a year, I have worked to resolve a personal financial situation,” she said in a statement.

    The committee ended an investigation of Rep. Sam Graves, R-Mo., and released a report finding no ethical violations.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....NwYW5lbHM-

    Where did Richardson come up with 4.3 million people figure who shared her same problems last year.

  58. canary

    Could strings be attached for Obama to jail Indians and take their land?

    AP: Holder: DOJ helping tribes reduce violence
    By Patrick Condon Oct 29, 2009

    ST. PAUL, Minn. – U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder says the Department of Justice is spending almost $400 million to help tribes reduce violence on their reservations.

    Holder said Thursday that the money will go to hire new law enforcement officers, fund domestic violence prevention programs, buy crime-fighting technology and equipment, create sex offender registries, and build and renovate jails and tribal courts.

    The money is coming from both economic stimulus funds and general Department of Justice dollars.

    Holder made his comments during a conference in St. Paul, Minn., on public safety issues on American Indian reservations.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....Jkb2poZWw-

  59. canary

    Supreme Court Justices have been performing live in Opera’s.

    AP: 2 Supreme Court justices taking stage in DC opera Oct 24, 2009
    Sat Oct 24, 3:02 pm ET

    WASHINGTON – Two U.S. Supreme Court justices are taking theatrics out of the courtroom — and into to a more suitable venue.

    Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia will have nonspeaking roles Saturday night in a production by the Washington National Opera. They’ll be dressed in black-tie attire and remain on stage for nearly 90 minutes during the opening performance of “Ariadne auf Naxos” (are-EE-AHD-nay off NACKS-ohs).

    The opera depicts a serious opera company and a comedic troupe performing at the same time during a dinner party. The justices will play party guests.

    Event organizers say Ginsburg and Scalia are opera lovers and have appeared in previous productions.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....N1cHJlbWVj

  60. canary

    Rueters: Kremlin says sanctions against Iran unlikely
    Wed Oct 28, 2009 By Guy Faulconbridge

    MOSCOW (Reuters) – The Kremlin said on Wednesday sanctions against Iran were highly unlikely in the near future, the latest signal that Russia is not yet ready to raise the heat on Tehran to allay Western fears over its nuclear program.

    But Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has warned Western powers that they will gain nothing by trying to intimidate Tehran and Russian officials have refused to publicly back the United States in threatening tougher sanctions against Iran.

    “Sanctions in relation to Iran are hardly possible in the near future,” the Kremlin’s top foreign policy aide, Sergei Prikhodko, was quoted as telling Russian reporters by Interfax news agency. Foreign reporters were not invited to the briefing.

    But Russia, a veto-wielding member of the United Nations Security Council, has always urged restraint and only supported previous sanctions against Iran after insisting on amendments softening the measures.

    Apart from sanctions, diplomats say Russia has two major levers with Iran: the Bushehr nuclear power station which Moscow says it will start up for Iran before the year end and a contract to supply S-300 air defense missile systems to Iran.

    Israel says the S-300 systems could be used by Tehran to defend Iranian nuclear facilities against potential air strikes. Any delivery of the S-300 to Iran would likely seriously raise tensions between Israel and Iran.

    The truck-mounted S-300PMU1, known in the West as the SA-20, can shoot down cruise missiles and aircraft. It can fire at targets up to 150 km (90 miles) away and can travel at more than 2 km per second.

    (Additional reporting by Denis Dyomkin in Fryazino, editing by Dmitry Solovyov and Elizabeth Fullerton)
    http://www.reuters.com/article.....IW20091028

  61. canary

    The Jerusalem Post: ‘Arms cache in every single Lebanon town’
    Yaakov Lappin Oct 29 2009

    UNIFIL – the UN’s 13,000-strong peacekeeper force in southern Lebanon – is doing a good job of preventing Hizbullah from operating out in open areas, but dares not enter the hundreds of villages which dot the area,

    Lebanese army forces discovered on Wednesday morning four rockets mounted on launch pads in the Lebanese village of Houlo – from where a Katyusha rocket was fired at the Upper Galilee region of northern Israel on Tuesday evening.

    Recent explosions of weapons caches in Lebanese villages offered more than enough proof of Hizbullah’s rearmament efforts, the army source said.

    “There are facts on the ground which speak for themselves,” he added. Earlier this month, the IDF released surveillance video taken from a drone of a building in the town of Tirplesi following an enormous explosion of what the army says was an illegal Hizbullah arms cache.

    Various long objects covered by a fabric can be seen being removed from the building, loaded onto a truck, and driven away.

    Yoram Schweitzer, Director of the Program on Terrorism and Low Intensity Conflict at Tel Aviv University’s Institute for National Security Studies, said “UNIFIL doesn’t have means to go into the villages. If an incident occurs on the ground and Hizbullah seals off the area for four to five hours, UNIFIL will wait before moving in.”

    Schweitzer stressed that UNIFIL did not launch surprise raids or conduct search missions for weapons, “otherwise they will become a target.” And UNIFIL will not actively initiate weapons searches.

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S.....e/ShowFull

  62. canary

    No swine flu vaccine shortage in Washington DC
    AP: Obama girls’ H1N1 vaccine: favoritism or good example?
    Oct. 29, 2009

    (AP) —…And no vaccine shortages have been reported in Washington’s schools.

    Dr. Mark Dworkin, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Illinois at Chicago, agreed. And he suggested there is good reason to give preferential treatment to the presidential daughters, 11-year-old Malia and 8-year-old Sasha.

    “If his children get sick with a high fever, that’s very distracting for any parent, and we all want his attention focused on all the issues before him,” Dworkin said. Also, if Malia and Sasha were to get the flu, their father could catch it from them.

    “That’s a guy I don’t want to see out sick,” Dworkin said.
    http://www.chicagobusiness.com.....l?id=35986

    .”and we all want his attention focused on all the issues before him,” Dworkin said.
    DUH. Wouldn’t want to mess up his golf game, photo shoots and parties.

  63. canary

    Glenn Beck List of 30+ Obama’s Czars As of July 20, 2009. Some are listed with 102,000 dollar salaries.

    http://www.glennbeck.com/conte.....198/29391/

    3. Auto Recovery Czar – Ed Montgomery
    In 2008, made $1,200 in political donations, all of which went to Obama’s presidential campaign.
    • Wife is the granddaughter of a General Motors worker from Portland, Mich.
    • Drives a 2000 Lincoln

    Alsp that Kundra communications created job by Obama is a CZAR position. He makes tons of money on the side too.

  64. Rusty Shackleford

    Hillary spills the beans again.

    The AP “reports”

    Clinton says US can find way out of Afghanistan

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....DMQ–

    WASHINGTON – Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says the U.S. presence in wartorn Afghanistan “is not an open-ended, never-ending commitment.”

    In an interview from Pakistan broadcast Friday on NBC’s “Today” show, Clinton replied “absolutely” when asked whether there is a way out for America in the protracted conflict in South Asia.

    You will note that there is now a clear indicator that the boy intends to get out of Afghanistan ASAP. Also note the choice of words where they use “South Asia”. I thought that interesting as 40 years ago, the news was filled with the words “South east Asia and remember how that all worked out?

    In a separate interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” she was asked if the United States is losing the war in Afghanistan. The secretary said, “No, I don’t think so.” She also said the decision that President Barack Obama will soon make about how to proceed next will not “be just a repeat of the same old approach. … I think that will be evident.”

    More specifically, “a repeat of the same old BUSH approach, which, of course is why we have to be there at all…as it’s his fault. Honestly, the childish level to which these people have sunk is irreversible.

  65. BillK

    This is the left’s template – attack businesses at every turn for legally minimizing their costs.

    From the ultra-liberal Madison, WI Capital Times:

    Terrence Wall’s pricey pumpkin patch

    MIDDLETON – A 2-acre piece of commercial real estate along bustling Greenway Boulevard owned by T. Wall Properties is the latest example of an arcane state law that allows developers to dramatically reduce their property tax liability.

    Dane County records show that two parcels off the Beltline owned by Wall Land Investment LLC were reclassified this year as agriculture property, saving the company about $34,000 in local taxes.

    Owner Terrence Wall says he has been renting the land to a farmer, who this year planted a crop of pumpkins that were later sold to raise money for a Middleton youth group.

    “If a parcel of land has an ag crop on it, it qualifies for ag use assessment under Wis Statute,” Wall said in an e-mail. “That’s the law; we’re following it. But I guess in this town, no good deed goes unpunished.”

    In 2008, the parcels at 8225 and 8235 Greenway Boulevard had assessed values of $1.04 million and $961,000, respectively. But after an appeal from Wall, the assessments were lowered to less than $1,000 under the state’s “use value” law, which requires that land in active production be valued for tax purposes as farmland, not for its development value.

    The issue was raised last week by the left-leaning group One Wisconsin Now, which had earlier criticized Wall for registering his real estate LLCs, or limited liability companies, at an address in Delaware.

    The group has accused Wall – who recently announced he was running in the Republican U.S. Senate primary for the seat held by Democratic incumbent Russ Feingold – of using every loophole possible to reduce tax obligations.

    Between the Delaware ‘office’ and this phony pumpkin patch, Wall is determined to avoid taxes on its assets,” says Scot Ross, One Wisconsin Now executive director. “Why should we have to pay more so companies owned by a multimillionaire like Terrence Wall can use creative tax laws to limit their obligations to taxpayers?

    Middleton officials, meanwhile, say they have little recourse aside from fighting with Wall in court.

    “You hate to do it but it’s one of those things,” says Paul Musser, Middleton city assessor for the past 27 years. …

    http://host.madison.com/ct/bus.....68a01.html

    I just don’t know what to say:

    Wall is determined to avoid taxes on its assets

    This is now somehow evil.

    I sure hope anyone reading that agrees with this doesn’t take any deductions on their income taxes – that’s like stealing!

    The liberal take is of course all your money is rightfully theirs:

    One Wisconsin Now’s Ross has also been critical of the interpretation of the use value law, saying it was meant to help farmers, not real estate developers.

    It wasn’t so developers could avoid their tax obligations to the residents of already cash-strapped local communities,” he says.

    Isn’t that what Wall is doing? After all, he leased the land to a farmer, who ostensibly wouldn’t have been able to plant the pumpkins otherwise.

    At least Wall recognizes what’s going on:

    Wall says he is only using the assessment rules as written and says One Wisconsin Now is a group of “paid hacks” bent on derailing his campaign.

    “Feingold’s political operatives are just making hay because they view me as a credible threat,” he says. “Instead of debating the issues on a substantive basis, they attack me and my company on peripheral issues.”

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    Dem’s Health Care requiring virtually universal sign-ups and establishing new government health care
    AP: House Dems reach deal on key health care elements
    By Erica Werner Oct 28, 2009

    WASHINGTON – a health care bill…requiring virtually universal sign-ups and establishing a new government-run insurance option for millions.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi planned a formal announcement Thursday morning in front of the Capitol.

    The rollout will cap months of arduous negotiations to bridge differences between liberal and moderate Democrats.

    The final product in the House, reflecting many of President Barack Obama’s priorities, includes

    fines on Americans who don’t purchase coverage and subsidies to help lower-income people do so.

    The price tag, topping $1 trillion over 10 years, would be paid for by taxing high-income people and cutting some $500 billion in payments to Medicare providers. The legislation would extend health coverage to around 95 percent of Americans.

    Republicans criticized the bill even before it was unveiled.

    “Americans’ health care is too important to risk on one gigantic bill that was negotiated behind closed doors,” said Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich.

    One change expected to be revealed Thursday is that some of the provisions of the bill, which were set to take effect mostly in 2013, have been moved up so Americans would see the benefits of the legislation more quickly, according to Pelosi

    House leaders hope to finish the bill before Veteran’s Day, Nov. 11. several weeks.

    “We were laughed at in August. Who would have thought that the Senate bill would have a public option?” said Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., a co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

    Members of the progressive caucus, along with lawmakers from the black, Hispanic and Asian-Pacific American caucuses, were scheduled to meet with Obama at the White House on Thursday, she said.

    the public plan would be expected to cover 9 million to 10 million people by 2019.

    Democratic leaders still faced disputes over prohibiting taxpayer money for abortions and health care for illegal immigrants, issues they hoped to resolve after the bill’s unveiling.

    AP David Espo and Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....e_overhaul

    Obama said no health care for illegal immigrants? Obama, you, lie.

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    Something tells me Obama’s declaration of H1H2 virus regulations allowing tents to be set up, has no ‘deadline’ cut-off date. The elderly will be moved out of nursing homes into the tents, to make room for
    sick illegal immigrants.

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