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Senate Dems Unified Against Entitlement Cuts

From a seemingly confused Associated Press:

Senate Dems divided over cuts to benefit programs

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER | November 28, 2012

WASHINGTON (AP) — Deep divisions among Senate Democrats over whether cuts to popular benefit programs like Medicare and Medicaid should be part of a plan to slow the government’s mushrooming debt pose a big obstacle to a deal for avoiding a potentially economy-crushing "fiscal cliff," even if Republicans agree to raise taxes...

[E]ven if GOP lawmakers agree to raise taxes, there is no guarantee Democrats can come up with enough votes in the Senate to cut benefit programs — as Republicans are demanding.

The hell you say! So even if the Republicans cave on taxes the Democrats won’t budge one iota on spending cuts? What a shocker.

By the way, there is no real division here among the Democrats, as the headline suggests. They are unified. There will be no cuts to entitlements.

There’s a growing consensus among Senate Democrats and the White House that Social Security should be exempt from any deficit-reduction package.

The AP reports below that the White House and Democrats have taken Social Security off of the table. Completely. So this is not even in question.

But some centrist Democrats in the Senate argue that fellow Democrats must be willing to consider cuts to Medicare and Medicaid in order to get concessions from Republicans on taxes.

"It has to be both — a significant revenue increase as well as spending cuts," said Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., chairman of the Senate Finance Committee…

Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., who is retiring as chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, said rising health care costs in Medicare and Medicaid are helping to drive future spending, making them an essential part of a long-term deficit-reduction package…

So only two "centrist" Democrat Senators (one of whom is retiring) mention doing anything about Medicare and Medicaid.

Later on we will find that the only cuts to Medicare and Medicaid mentioned in this entire article is to increase the Medicare tax on the so-called wealthy. Who already pay more into Medicare than most. But this is what Democrats call "cuts."

But senators like Baucus and Conrad increasingly are being drowned out by other Democrats emboldened by the recent election results to fight against benefit cuts.

Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said he is willing to find savings in Medicare and Medicaid by making them more efficient. But, he said, he won’t support benefit cuts…

Of course, Harkin will support increasing the tax on Medicare for those rich people who make over $200,000 a year.

Sen. Dick Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate leadership ranks, said he doesn’t think there should be a rush to overhaul entitlement programs in connection with the move to avert the fiscal cliff in the remaining weeks of the current session…

"A rush." This has only been the biggest problem facing the budget for thirty years.

The Illinois Democrat said in a CNN interview Wednesday that "what we need to put on the table short-term is mandatory deficit reduction." Durbin said entitlement reforms to programs like Medicare and Medicaid should be "part of the long-term strategy" of reining in federal deficits…

And "long term" means ten or twelve years down the road. Which means never.

Democrats already have tried to take Social Security off the table. Carney, the White House spokesman, said Monday that changes to the massive retirement and disability program should be done separately from any plan to reduce the deficit. That’s the same position taken by 28 Democratic senators and independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont in a letter to fellow senators in September.

"We will oppose including Social Security cuts for future or current beneficiaries in any deficit-reduction package," said the letter, which was signed by many top Democrats, including Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada. In the House, Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi has taken the same position, not only on Social Security, but also on Medicare and Medicaid.

"There hasn’t been the slightest suggestion about what they’re going to do about the real problems, and that’s entitlements," said Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee. "There’s a certain cockiness that I’ve seen that is really astounding to me since we’re basically in the same position we were before" the election.

Durbin has tried to find common ground, saying he would be willing to require wealthy seniors to pay more for Medicare benefits…

This is what Democrats mean by spending cuts. Making the so-called rich pay more for less. So they can buy more votes with the money left over.

This article was posted by Steve on Wednesday, November 28th, 2012. Comments are currently closed.

3 Responses to “Senate Dems Unified Against Entitlement Cuts”

  1. Petronius says:

    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” – H. L. Mencken

    Nerobama and the Commiecrats ran up $6 trillion in new debt in four years. That is their debt––they own it.

    Following their reelection by the American idiocracy, we may reasonably anticipate that Nerobama and the Commiecrats will run up another $6 trillion over the next four years––perhaps more as ObamaCare is implemented. They will own that, too.

    The Democrats created the debt. The Democrats won the election. So why is the burden on the Republicans to solve the fiscal crisis?

    Why should the Republicans bother to negotiate over a spending crisis, the existence of which the Commiecrats don’t even acknowledge?

    The Commiecrats created the entitlement programs that are bankrupting the country. They engineered the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and the sequestration. If there is a problem with any of those things, let them solve it. They won––therefore it is time for them to take the lead. If they don’t want to take the lead, let them deal with the consequences.

    If the Commiecrats don’t act, then the Bush tax cuts expire and the defense budget is wiped out. It’s what they want. They won. So be it.

    If the result is economic ruin, social chaos, and military defeat, then Nerobama and the Commiecrats own it. If America becomes a bigger, more violent version of Greece, they own it.

    But go ahead if you like; give them their ridiculous tax increase on the two percent of the American population who already pay half the taxes. Not that it makes much difference to the debt crisis. You still get basically the same results, only a few days later.

    They already own the current recession. And the coming 2013 recession. And when that recession turns into a depression, they will own that, too.

    When the rating agencies downgrade US bonds, they own it.

    When interest rates go up and bond values collapse, they own it.

    When the stock markets sink, they own it.

    When helter-skelter comes down, it’s what they wanted. It’s what the 51% voted for. So let them have it good and hard, and let them own it.

    So congratulations to all of you uneducated students, to all of you promiscuous unmarried females with your bundles of Sandra Fluke brand™ government-issued contraceptives, to all of you parasites, freeloaders, slackers, looters, robbers, disability collectors, and EBT card carriers, to all the queers fondling each other in public and the Occupiers urinating on each other in the town square, to all of you assorted America-haters, anti-white racist nonwhites (documented and undocumented), Marxists and neo-Marxists, and brain-dead zombies who voted for the Commiecrats and elected this nightmare Nerobama. Congratulations. You won. You fell for all that class-warfare demagoguery, for all the smears and lies. You fell hook, line, and sinker. You now own it. You can’t blame Bush. You can’t blame the Tea Party. You can’t blame Wall Street. You can’t blame those wascally Wepublicans. You can’t blame imaginary white racists, or grumpy old white men like me. You elected it, you reelected it, you lapped it up with your furry tongues, so now you own it. Lock, stock, and barrel.

    Everybody talks about Romney’s mistakes. But Romney’s only real mistake was that his 47% calculation was too low. The American idiocracy now constitutes 51%. This 51% have discovered that they can vote themselves “gibmedats” from the public treasury, and expect the other 49% to pay for it.

    More specifically, they expect the two percenters to pay for it. For now.

    But what happens when we don’t pay for it? What happens when they run out of other people’s money? Hmmm? What about that, Skippy?

    $16 trillion in public debt, you own it.
    Another $1.3 trillion in debt added annually, year in and year out, you own it.
    Fed printing presses running full blast, churning out fiat money, you own it.
    Downgrade of the country’s credit rating, you own it.
    Stock market sinks like a stone, you own it.
    Bankruptcy, default or hyperinflation, you own it.
    End of American prosperity, you own it.
    Mass unemployment, you own it.
    Can’t get a job after graduation, you own it.
    Working two part-time jobs instead of one real job, you own it.
    Declining household income, you own it.
    Higher gas prices, you own it.
    Gas lines, bread lines, you own ‘em.
    Driving toy cars and bicycles, you own it.
    Higher electric bills, you own that, too.
    Can’t get a mortgage loan, you own it … or actually you don’t own it.
    Rationing health care for seniors, you own it.
    Higher health insurance premiums and health care costs, you own it.
    Doctors closing shop and going out of business, you own it.
    Everybody on food stamps, you own it.
    China buying up American farms, ranches, oilfields, timber, and coal mines, you own it … no, actually they own it.
    China demanding all the gold in Fort Knox, you own it … or actually they own it.
    Bloodshed on the Mexican border, you own it.
    Next terrorist attack, you own it.
    Jihadists rioting in American streets, you own it.
    Nuclear Iran, you own it.
    A holocaust of Israel, you own it.
    Old allies can’t trust us anymore, you own it.
    Russians giving us the finger, you own it.
    More Benghazis, more pleas for help going unheeded, more calls for rescue going unanswered, more lies about videos, more clamping down on free speech, more Solyndras, Fast & Furious, you-name-it and you-own-it.
    The Constitution in tatters, you own it.
    End of the rule of law, you own it.
    No more silly old-fashioned principles like private property and national sovereignty, you own it.
    End of freedom in America, you own it.
    Rule by presidential whim and decree, you own it.
    A system of government wherein the law is anything that comes out of Dingleberry’s anal aperture, you own it.
    A Marxist dictatorship instead of a Constitutional republic, you own it.
    More “revenge” against his “enemies,” you own it.
    When they come to kill your pets so that they can have more meat to feed the hungry poor, you own it.
    And when they tell you to make space in your apartment for some immigrants and gypsies, remember you own that, too … or actually they own it.
    And all of you hurricane victims up in New Jersey and New York who elected Nerobama can freeze in the dark. You voted for it, you own it.

    Don’t come crying to me for help. If you want help, look in the mirror.

    Just because your man doubled government spending doesn’t mean that I have to pay for it. I’ve gone Galt.

    Just because you want more “gibmedats” doesn’t mean I have to pay for them. I’ve gone Galt.

    And I’ve also gone Colt, Winchester, Ruger, and Smith & Wesson. And I’ve made a mental note of every house in my neighborhood that had an Obama-Biden sign on the lawn. When the time comes, your house is my re-supply depot. I’m going to do some redistributing of my own.

    Hey, this is the Age of Anything Goes, right? You voted for it, you own it. Or actually I’ll own it.

    Hey, anybody see that announcement that capital spending by American business has dried up and disappeared? Now we’ve got negative capital investment. What have you got to say about that, Skippy? Hmmm?

    Yes, socialism is fine until you run out of other people’s money. But then what? Now that American businesses have stopped investing, now that our businesses are downsizing, closing, and moving abroad, now that you’re running out of jobs, sooner or later you’ll also be running out of tax revenues, and then there won’t be any more other people’s money. What then, Skippy? Hmmm?

    So be thankful if you’ve got a cot in the school gym or a park bench to sleep on. You’re going to be one of the lucky ones.

    Yes, George W. Bush is long gone. John McCain and Mitt Romney are defeated. And there is no other decent, upright, competent, experienced, courageous patriot left for you to demonize, smear, and lie about. Yes, in a strange way I am relieved that there is no Atlas left to shoulder the well nigh impossible burden of cleaning up the rotten, stinking, festering, putrid mess left by your idol, that tyrant whom you worship and adore, Nerobama.

    Yes, you have all lost your sense of smell.

    God is my hope now. God, and the other four Gs: guns, gold, ground, and Galt.

    With no decency left in America, I turn my back on its idiocracy. I place my faith in God. In the Five Gs. Only a fool puts his faith in demagogues, Marxist pipe dreams, the United States government, or the American idiocracy.

    No, I won’t help any of you American idiots, you takers, slackers, parasites, looters, and robbers. No more handouts. No help, and no mercy. Now it’s survival of the fittest. I’ve gone Galt. Tough luck, buster. You voted for it, you own it.

  2. GetBackJack says:

    Shocking news that Democrats are against tax cuts

  3. Astravogel says:

    Just keep shoveling the coal into the boiler until the train goes
    off the tracks, then look for someone to blame for it. Shame
    that there’s no place else to go that’s any better.

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