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Senate May Condemn FL Koran Burning

From Fox News:

Senators Consider Hamid Karzai’s Request to Condemn Koran Burning Amid Protests

Published April 03, 2011 | FoxNews.com

U.S. lawmakers said Sunday they would consider a request by Afghan President Hamid Karzai to formally condemn a Florida pastor’s decision to burn the Koran, after the act triggered deadly riots in Afghanistan.

The protests entered their third day Sunday as demonstrators battled police in the southern city of Kandahar and, in the eastern city of Jalalabad, blocked a highway and burned an effigy of President Obama.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid repudiated pastor Terry Jones for touching off the chaos with what he called a "publicity stunt." Jones had earlier threatened to burn the Koran, but then shelved the plan until last month. The burning attracted little U.S. attention at the time but was used as a rallying cry in Afghanistan.

"This was an effort to get some publicity for him. He got it. But in the process, 10-20 people have been killed," Reid said on CBS’ "Face the Nation."

Asked whether Congress could pass a resolution condemning it, he said, "We’ll take a look at this."

The Koran burning took place on the 20th of March, which is more than two weeks ago. Our watchdog media appears to have studiously avoided mentioning it. We would not even know about it, if not for these murderous rampages.

So how did these very pious Muslims even find out about it? Was it the New York Times or our State Department?

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., suggested Congress should condemn the burning, but also stressed that one pastor’s actions should not excuse the subsequent killings.

"Burning a Koran is a terrible thing, but it doesn’t justify killing someone. Burning a Bible would be a terrible thing, but it wouldn’t justify murder," he said. "But having said that, any time we can push back here in America against actions like this that put our troops at risk, we ought to do it."

Burning a Bible is "such a terrible thing" that the US Army burned Bibles it found on the holy soil of Afghanistan in 2009. Somehow we don’t remember any riots or beheadings over that. And the Senate did not condemn that act.

Obama had a similar message, saying in a written statement that Jones’ actions marked "an act of extreme intolerance and bigotry," but that the violence must stop

Lest we forget, the US military was under the command of Mr. Obama in 2009. So he was responsible for "an act of extreme intolerance and bigotry" when the Bibles were burnt in Afghanistan.

The violence started Friday, when demonstrators in the previously peaceful northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif poured into the streets after Friday prayers and overran a U.N. compound, killing three U.N. staff members and four Nepalese guards.

The operative phrase here being: "after Friday prayers." But these aren’t military installations. They are sanctuaries.

On Saturday, hundreds of Afghans holding copies of the Koran over their heads marched in Kandahar before starting to attack cars and businesses. Security forces opened fire and nine protesters were killed, but the governor of Kandahar said officers had only fired into the air. He said 81 were wounded and 17 people, including seven armed men, had been arrested.

Military commander Gen. David Petraeus and the top NATO civilian representative in Afghanistan, Mark Sedwill, said that they "hope the Afghan people understand that the actions of a small number of individuals, who have been extremely disrespectful to the Holy Koran, are not representative of any of the countries of the international community who are in Afghanistan to help the Afghan people."

Perhaps it’s time to give up on winning the hearts and minds of the enemy. It’s clear there is no reasoning with them. Let’s just kill them or leave.

The Taliban said in a statement emailed to media outlets that the U.S. and other Western countries had wrongly excused the burning of the Koran on March 20 as freedom of speech and that Afghans "cannot accept this un-Islamic act."

Are ‘holy’ Korans ever damaged when Muslims blow up Mosques and other Islamic shrines, as they are wont to day on practically a daily basis?

Of course if it wasn’t the burning of a Koran, it would be something else. Like a cartoon of Mohammed.

This article was posted by Steve on Sunday, April 3rd, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

20 Responses to “Senate May Condemn FL Koran Burning”

  1. canary says:

    Peaceful protesters in Afghans safest city massacre locked in UN members, chopped off heads, shot, and burned. See video and photos

    BBC: UN staff killed during protest in northern Afghanistan
    Apr 1 2011

    At least eight foreign UN workers and four others have been killed in an attack on a UN compound in the Afghan city of Mazar-e Sharif, officials say.

    The violence happened during a protest over the burning of the Koran in a US church last month.

    Witnesses said hundreds of people were protesting peacefully in the city when the scene suddenly turned violent.

    The UN has confirmed its workers were killed but has not said how many – it said the situation remained “confusing”.

    Mazar-e Sharif is one of Afghanistan’s largest cities – as well as one of its safest.

    The city is on a list of areas to be handed to full Afghan security control later this year.

    US President Barack Obama also condemned the attack “in the strongest possible terms”, saying the work of the UN “is essential to building a stronger Afghanistan”.

    Witnesses said a crowd of several hundred staged a protest outside the Blue Mosque in the city after Friday prayers.

    Munir Ahmad Farhad, a spokesman for Balkh province, said the group seized weapons from the guards and opened fire before storming the building.

    Kieran Dwyer, director of communications for the UN mission in Afghanistan, said the UN workers had been trapped inside the compound and “hunted down” in what was an “overwhelming situation”.

    Protests were held in several other Afghan cities on Friday – which demonstrators in Herat had called a “day of anger”, Afghanistan’s Noor TV channel reports.


    No mention of the danger our troops are in. No doubt the protesters will destroy the schools and toilets. This is a holy war and all Obama’s loving on muslims is going down the toilets he’s ordering troops to get blown up to build.

  2. canary says:

    Media ignoring more murders and attacks day after terrorists beheaded and burned NATO HQ.

    Aljazeera: Apr 2 2011 More deaths as Afghans protest Quran burning

    Five people killed in Kandahar as thousands protest

    Thousands of people took to the streets in Kandahar city on Saturday, a day after a deadly attack on UN staff.

    Protesters attacked the police and set shops ablaze. Dozens of people were injured.

    “Thirty-two people suffering from bullet injuries and wounds caused by rocks have been admitted,” Abdul Qayoum Pukhla, a senior doctor at Kandahar’s Mirwais hospital, said.

    A day earlier, after Friday prayers ended, protesters overwhelmed security guards at the UN office in the usually peaceful northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif. …

    Also on Saturday, fighters clad in burkas attacked a coalition base in Kabul with guns and rocket-propelled grenades, but were killed either when they detonated their explosives or by Afghan or coalition fire outside the entrance, NATO and police said.

    “This is why they’re trying to converge in the main cities, in particular in areas where there are military bases…


    More examples of Violence spreading destroying U.S. Military Soldier constuction sites. (grrrrr)

    Reuters: Suicide bombers kill 24 in Afghanistan’s southeast
    by Elyas Wahdat

    KHOST, Afghanistan |Mar 28, 2011

    (Reuters) – Three suicide bombers killed 24 people and wounded dozens more in an attack on a construction firm in Afghanistan’s restive southeast,…

    A statement from the office of the Paktika governor said 24 people were killed and another 53 wounded.

    Construction crews and others working on infrastructure projects are frequently targeted by insurgents.

    …the firm was one of the largest construction companies in the province funded by the U.S. government.

    In an emailed statement to media, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid claimed the Islamist group had carried out the attack but said it had been on a military base and that 49 foreign and Afghan troops had been killed and wounded.

    (Writing by Hamid Shalizi; Editing by Paul Tait and Sugita Katyal)
    so far 6 U.S. troops from Ft. Campbell were killed.

    And the corrupt muslim Afghan President Karzai who is gets to make all the decisions that Obama has us follow is so backward that Thursday Hamid Karzai called on the United States to bring those responsible for the Koran burning to justice.

    Inspite of Obama taking him on tour of U.S. to include the Ft. Campbell Base, before deployed and were slaughtered under the terrorist leade Karzai’s command, he must think the U.S. chops of heads or has hangings. What kind of Justice.
    Justice is to for the U.S. troops to get away from Karzai, Afganistan, building their toilets and packing their dope, and
    get the hell of there now.

    The media never reports on our soldiers deaths anymore in the U.S. F*** Obama for slaving our soldier to Karzai. Good great. Obama warned those dumb preachers that the muslims were maniacs and a global world could happen if they so much spit on a quran. Why didn’t they just do something like paste a picture of Jesus on it. oh… but of course muslims around the world would take that as an excuse to play their favorite game of murder, burn, torture.
    Bleep Obama and Robert Gates, Hillary and her beaver smile, John McCain, to put give weapons to Libya and ground troops.

    God Bless our troops and may God’s greatest angels protect them from while they are trapped and stuck in the belly of the beast.

  3. canary says:

    BBC: Afghanistan: Obama condemns killings of UN staff

    2 April 2011

    Mr Obama said the desecration of any holy text was “an act of extreme intolerance and bigotry”, but it did not justify killing innocent people.

    “No religion tolerates the slaughter and beheading of innocent people, and there is no justification for such a dishonourable and deplorable act.”

    Earlier, the head of the UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (Unama), Staffan de Mistura, said during a visit to Mazar-e Sharif that the only person who could be blamed for the violence was the American pastor.

    “I don’t think we should be blaming any Afghan. We should be blaming the person who produced the news – the one who burned the Koran. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from offending culture, religion, traditions.”


    Obama: “No religion tolerates the slaughter and beheading of innocent people,..”

    Did Obama miss that a top official of the UN justifies the slaughter and beheading of innocent people. The same UN that won’t allow a cross of bible on soldiers.

    Obama knew Islam is a bigoted religion that tolerates no other religion on the face of the earth and that is why he
    spoke out when his fellow idiot Jones said he was going to
    burn the book of evil last year.

    Obama, whose own bigoted church of 20 years who takes the Holy God’s name in vein and profanity ordering his God to
    dam the white man and Jew to hell.

    Does the UN understand that Christians in the U.S. have lost traditions in which this nation was based upon in order to appease monsters who chop off heads and fly into and blow up buildings and people.

    The UN official might as well of ordered the beheading and burning of innocent people, and should be immediately fired.

    Firing, is too good a punishment for this UN warmonger.

    Both Obama and the top UN official for, also forgot to blame Afganistan President Karzai who went around condoning the killings leading to more slaughtering.

    Arrest Jones? Firing is too good for the UN official.
    Karzai had to condone the killings to keep his own head on.
    A vicious growing cycle of fear and hate.

    • U NO HOO says:

      A bit redundant but, “How many Korans did Daniel Pearl burn.”

      Any thing is an excuse to kill for some Mohamadans.

      Some people are just wacko wacko wacko evil evil evil as we know it.

      Wars and rumors of wars…how true.

      Just venting.

      Back to the Phillies game.

  4. canary says:

    Media calls hundreds of muslim afghan protesters blocking street burning effigy of Obama and chanting for U.S. Soldiers to go home as “peacefully” protesting.

    Time to hand the noble peace prize over to the Tea Parties. UN official Staffan de Mistura is a danger to our troops and civilians and should be fired and locked up.

    BBC: Afghanistan: Koran protests in Kandahar and Jalalabad
    Apr 3 2011

    Demonstrators in Jalalabad chanted anti-American slogans and burned an effigy of President Obama

    The protests have now spread to the eastern city of Jalalabad, where hundreds of protesters peacefully blocked a main road for three hours on Sunday.

    The crowd shouted for US troops to leave Afghanistan and burnt an effigy of Mr Obama, according to an Associated Press photographer at the scene.


  5. canary says:

    Harry Reid and other Senators call for Sharia court honor punishment for childish preacher.

    25 of those arrested for blowing up civilians an children and burning buildings have been released at Taliban’s request as they were only following Sharia law.


    FoxNews: Senators Consider Hamid Karzai’s Request to Condemn Koran Burning Amid Protests
    Apr 3 2011

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid repudiated pastor Terry Jones for touching off the chaos with what he called a “publicity stunt.”

    “This was an effort to get some publicity for him. He got it. But in the process, 10-20 people have been killed,” Reid said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

    Asked whether Congress could pass a resolution condemning it, he said, “We’ll take a look at this.”

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid repudiated pastor Terry Jones for touching off the chaos with what he called a “publicity stunt.” …CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

    Asked whether Congress could pass a resolution condemning it, he said, “We’ll take a look at this.”

    Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., suggested Congress should condemn the burning, but also stressed that one pastor’s actions should not excuse the subsequent killings.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
    U.S. President and General’s repeated apologies aren’t good enough

    Gulf Times: Two killed, dozens hurt in third day of Afghan protests
    April 3 2011

    Another 14 people, including two children, were wounded when protesters seized a gas cannister taken from a shop and set it on fire, causing an explosion,…

    Karzai made the request at a meeting with US ambassador Karl Eikenberry and General David Petraeus,…

    “The American Congress and Senate must condemn this in clear words, show their stance, and prevent such incidents from happening again,” the statement said.

    Eikenberry read to Karzai from US President Barack Obama’s earlier condemnation of the Koran burning, the statement said.

    “We condemn, in particular, the action of an individual in the US who recently burned the Holy Qur’an,” Petraeus said in a statement, which was also signed by Nato’s senior civilian representative, ambassador Mark Sedwill.

    “We want the preacher who burnt the holy Qur’an to get a severe punishment,” said 20-year-old protester Jalil Ahmad. “He is not a human being, he is a brain-dead animal.”

    The Taliban said in a statement yesterday that Afghans were still ready to give their lives to protest against an offence that it said the West was not taking seriously.

    “The US government should have punished the perpetrators, but the American authorities and those in other countries not only did not have a serious reaction, but defended (the burning) to some extent in the name of freedom of religion and speech,” Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said in a statement.

    Worcester Telegram & Gazette Telegram: Afghan’s Quran protests spread east
    April 3 2011

    JALALABAD, Afghanistan —

    More than 1,000 people set tires ablaze to block another highway in eastern Parwan province for about an hour, said provincial police chief Sher Ahmad Maladani.

    On Saturday, hundreds of Afghans holding copies of the Quran over their heads marched in Kandahar before attacking cars and businesses.

    The Taliban said in a statement emailed to media outlets that the U.S. and other Western countries had wrongly excused the burning of the Quran as freedom of speech and that Afghans “cannot accept this un-Islamic act.”

    The governor of Kandahar said he and the main leaders of the protests in the southern city had reached an agreement that would end the demonstrations in exchange for the release of those who were arrested. He said they released 25 people but did not provide details.


    Media gives little coverage in the last weeks of U.S. Soldiers dying in Afghanistan. Attention on else.

    Army medic from Pleasanton dies in Afghanistan helping wounded soldiers
    By Eric Louie
    Contra Costa Times
    Mar 31 2011

    PLEASANTON — Jameson Lindskog, 23, became an Army medic to get the training and education he would need to become a physical therapist.

    On Tuesday, he was killed in Afghanistan while using his new medical knowledge to help fellow soldiers who had been shot, said his mother, Donna Walker.

    Army officials said that Lindskog was one of three troops killed in that incident, one of six killed that day in a continuing offensive operation in the eastern Konar province near Pakistan.

    He told her that he would get training through the Army, and that it would also look good on his résumé. Also, jobs were hard to find because of the economy.

    Walker said the Army gave her basic information about the circumstances of her son’s death, but through the family of others there, she learned he was on patrol when they were shot at. Lindskog was then shot trying to help the wounded.

    At a news conference Thursday, Maj. Gen. John Campbell, commanding general of the 101st Airborne Division, said

    the six soldiers who died Tuesday were part of a large offensive operation intended to disrupt a spring enemy buildup.

    “We knew that we would get a fight in there,” he said of the continuing battle, dubbed “Operation Strong Eagle III.”


    God Bless and keep our Soldiers safe. Most of them do not even understand or know what the koran is or means. They just have pride in helping the people over there.
    U.S. Soldiers serve boldly and blindly to keep their country safe.

  6. bobdog says:

    Behead those who even mention cartoons of Mohammed.

    Damn. Now I’m in trouble, too.

  7. JohnMG says:

    How about the Senate condemn Islam, instead. You’ll notice I didn’t say “radical Islam” since that would be a redundancy.

    With all of the pressiong business the Senate COULD be discussing, they have to waste valuable time on this hard-bound version of cheap tiolet paper. Do those tools have any idea concerning that of which they would speak. They should consult Alan West for a clear and concise assessment of the collection of mental garbage called the (pick-how-you-want-to-spell-it) Koran.

  8. canary says:

    MSNBC has video the first part shows a close up of the recent protesters “burning a cross” in the background of the stuffed dummy of the U.S. president. While we’ve heard of the dummy and U.S. flag burning this is the first of burning of the cross of Christianity. Most close up video I’ve seen of this unacceptable behavior by the protestors.

    Maybe we should hold some “mock protests” that we are outraged at Afghanistan for burning the cross,
    making fun of the crucifying of Jesus Christ who performed healings, miracles, and taught love and peace. We need a news media outlet that will put it on the internet.

    Or, perhaps “a mock beheading of Jones” using camera tricks and ketchup and put on internet.

    Jones would probably go for this, because the more that believe he’s dead the safer he may feel some day. Meanwhile he will have to hide under rocks and behinds trees.

    recent video of cross and dummy burning

  9. tranquil.night says:

    Well, let’s see, the real issue here is how does it just so happen that everytime there’s a tragedy, disaster, or crisis – the narrative for a solution always ends up premised on something that will obscure our Constitution, national sovereignty, and individual freedom?

    Why does everything either being mired in stagnation, death and/or chaos always profit the Statists, be they Western, Middle Eastern, or in the Far East?

    The question answers itself.

  10. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Operating under the auspices that going about our own business, our own way is somehow “antagonistic” to people who have nothing better to do but think of ways to kill us is the wrong avenue of thinking. If we somehow were able to act in ways that adhered to their line of thinking, they would still want us dead. Note the recent kinetic action in Libya. Before any US activity occurred, there were factions of sand-people demanding that the US do something. Now that something “has been done” certain other, or the same, sand-people are enraged. National socialists think they understand human behavior so well. After all, they’ve had all that collegin’ and everything and yet, they get to so wrong, repeatedly and oh-so-badly every—-single—-time.

    When dealing with the sand-people remember always:

    1) They want to kill us
    2) If they say they don’t want to kill us, then #1 becomes immediately operative
    3) They have taken every opportunity, for centuries, to kill us
    4) Their religion and their religious leaders demand that they kill us
    5) They are happy to kill themselves while in the process of killing us
    6) Killing us is, apparently, the only thing that makes them happy as they live in hell.
    7) Given the opportunity, they espouse loudly and wildly why they feel they must kill us.

    Why are there any questions?

    • Petronius says:

      “3) They have taken every opportunity, for centuries, to kill us.”

      Just so. Islam has been at war against the West since its inception in 632 AD (death of Mohammed). In 633, Muslims destroyed the Christian communities of Arabia, and all of the Christians and Jews were massacred or expelled. Within 100 years, North Africa, Egypt, Palestine, Syria, most of Asia Minor, Spain, and southern France had been lost to Christianity and conquered by Islam, and Rome itself was threatened. Since that time the Muslim invasions, killings, and persecutions have continued almost unabated.

      “6) Killing us is, apparently, the only thing that makes them happy….”

      You are probably right about this as well. Islam is a blood-soaked religion and culture. The Muslims will only be appeased when all of us are dead, or lined up with them on the prayer mats, lined up cheek to jowl, nose to bum.

    • proreason says:

      This is why I say that the future of Islam is pre-ordained. The absolutely central tenet of the religion is to wipe infidels off the face of the earth. How do you reach common ground with that?

      And the reason Islam’s fate is pre-ordained is that an equally ingrained central tenet is that Mohammed wrote down everything worth knowing. Therefore, they are incapable of innovation. And since they invent nothing, they cannot overcome the technological advantage of the rest of the world. If the west has become too mentally unstable to wipe Islam out, China isn’t, India isn’t, Russia isn’t, Japan isn’t, etc. Eventually, there will be an apocalyptic confrontation, and Islam will be the loser, in a walkover.

      The very barbaric aspects that make Islam so frightening are the things that will inevitably cause its destruction.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      The basic tenet of the Empire of Japan was similar in 1940. We defeated them but it took a lot of blood. By we, I mean The United States’ Greatest Generation. Unfortunately, we now live in a time where recognition of evil is somehow considered gauche. Why that is, I’ve no idea but it dovetails well into the left’s efforts to free convicted serial killers, give child molesters and other perverts “counseling” and let them wander around with a tracking bracelet and expecting them to register with the authorities when they move.

      Yeah, right. The national socialists fail to recognize evil at every turn so, it naturally follows that they, themselves must also be evil. Two things equaling the same thing equal each other, Thanks to Mr Pythagoras.

      Such direct brilliance is what is necessary in today’s world. But I also recall once again when Galileo stood his ground and suffered brutally for it. Were it not for his relationship with certain Catholic leaders, his fate would’ve been much more grave. And just as Galileo faced the wrath of “accepted wisdom”, handed down from the elites of the day (the Catholic church), so the people in society today who recognize evil are ridiculed by our current rabble of “elites”. Yet, the dissemblers of the truth don’t realize that their heads may be the first to come off, should it turn ugly.

      As Pro has pointed out, unlike Japan on the eve of WWII, the sand-people have no innovative ways to wage a large-scale war with highly technical and innovative equipment. Running over them was proven in Iraq War 1, even though they had the best the USSR had to offer, though somewhat less capable. The US could run over them and eat their lunch in a minute. But we have put gum on our shoes, tied the laces together and are intentionally trying to button a shirt with mittens on. I dare say that if this was 1970 and there was as much sand-people activity as there is now, our military machine would be working overtime to protect our interests. No, that’s not “imperialism”; It’s “reality” and the national socialists thinking they can use the old saw of avoiding our prejudices such as were prevalent in WWII against the Japanese in the US and the blacks after that…well, not so fast.

      There were cases where internment of the Japanese probably saved lives. And who did it? Mr Socialism himself, F–D–friggin –R. But this is a different thing with the US resident sand-people. They are complicit in their failure to identify themselves as standing against the violence toward the US. They have no blogs…no newspapers and no speakers yelling from the rooftops that they are against the violence. Instead they are concerned with ….”Don’t look at me pal!…I didn’t blow up your building/ship/plane/family”. No one has any sand-people on TV to ask them, “How is the sand-people “community” planning on helping to stem the tide of this violent jihad?”. Nope….just crickets.

      But, given the events of human history…I figure it has to reach a saturation point. Whenever I think we’re there, it’s just another case of someone turning up the heat and things continue…albeit in a worse fashion than they were before. Well, personally, I’m sick of it. Today I was pondering what might happen if the western world got smart and finally fed up enough to say…”You know what? I’m sick of you sand-people killing my friends and wrecking our good time…and it’s time for us to do something about it”,…and go on a multi-year ass-kicking spree all over sand-land.

      What’s that? Don’t do that…it might make ’em mad? So what? They’re already “got-their-lunch-money-stolen-had-to-stay-after-school-for-no-reason” mad anyhow. I say let’s really piss ’em off and start wrecking their shit and then hootin’ and hollerin’ and burning their flags and making signs with Allah getting doinked by pigs, etc. Then, when they’re mad enough and declare all out war on us (like they haven’t already) go over there and turn their “nations” into glass, put layers of minefields, razor wire, booby traps and pigs around the oil fields and control them and run them and divvy out the oil to all but muslim nations at ridiculously low prices. Hell, give oil to China for free in repayment of the loans of 2009/2010.

      That…is called “Winning The Future”.

  11. GetBackJack says:

    Would that some blessed day the Senate would express as much outrage over the desecration of our Holy Constitution and issue a blistering condemnation of the Democratic Party. But noooo …..

    • Petronius says:

      Indeed, GBJ. “Oil Can” Harry Reid, Lindsey Grahamnesty, Dick Durbin, and the rest of them seem to have forgotten their first allegiance is to the Constitution, including the First Amendment — and not to Islam or Liberal dogma.

  12. Liberals Demise says:

    I can’t fathom why this is being considered?
    They must all be on drugs!

  13. GetBackJack says:

    Forgot to give serious props to our very own Canary … wow. Great links, feathered one. First rate.

  14. Mithrandir says:


    Then they will BURN the Bible, BURN the American flag, BEHEAD Americans, SHOOT U.N. workers….

    Hmm, both events are EQUAL in the media’s eyes, and are in NO WAY contradictory for the “Religion of Peace.”

    Aren’t THE TEN COMMANDMENTS written directly by God? So when THEY burn the Bible, isn’t that also terrible?

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