SubscribeShocker: Russia Not Honoring Cease-fire
From an approving CNN:
Dozens of refugees and activists yelling ‘Russia out” wave Georgia’s flag while marching towards a Russian check-point near Kaspi, on the road from Tbilisi to Gori on August 19, 2008.
NATO: Russia not honoring cease-fire terms
BRUSSELS, Belgium (CNN) — NATO has accused Russia of failing to honor the full terms of the cease-fire agreement brokered by the European Union last week aimed at ending the fighting in Georgia.
NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said on Tuesday that Russian forces were still inside Georgia despite the agreement to withdraw — and despite Moscow having said they had begun doing so on Monday.
“We do not see signals of this happening,” Scheffer said. “There can be no business as usual with Russia under the present circumstances.”
Russia’s foreign minister Sergey Lavrov said NATO’s accusations were “biased.” …
Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy chief of staff of Russia’s armed forces, said Tuesday that some troops remained in place to protect South Ossetia’s borders…
However, at the same time Russian soldiers took 21 Georgian military police officers prisoner at the key port of Poti in western Georgia and Ap said they seized four American vehicles set to be returned to the U.S. following joint military exercises…
Ministers said they were “seriously” considering the implications of Russia’s actions on the NATO-Russia relationship
“As long as Russian forces are basically occupying a large part of Georgia, I cannot see a NATO-Russia Council convene at whatever level,” Scheffer said…
Scheffer said NATO would set up a NATO-Georgian Commission to oversee Georgia’s relationship with the international alliance, supervise its bid to join the group and assist Tbilisi with support in the wake of the Russian invasion.
He said a team of 50 NATO staff would to go to Georgia to help assess needs of the Georgian military, help with air traffic resumption and assist in the investigation of cyber attacks…
The U.S. claims Russia is trying to undermine the government of Georgia’s pro-Western leader, Mikheil Saakashvili.
The Bush administration wants suspension of the whole spectrum of programs of cooperation between NATO and Russia. Britain and several former Soviet republics support this idea, but other countries — including France and Germany — are less inclined to isolate Russia that aggressively..
The United States wants Europe to cancel the many exchanges of personnel and postpone an EU-Russia summit scheduled for November, and is also pushing Europe to start lessening its energy dependence on Russia…
But in reference to the photo at the top, where are the protesters? Where is Code Pink? Where is Cindy Sheehan, who says she is against all wars?
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August 19th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Let’s get Code Pink and Cindy on a plane for Georgia, and just not tell them which Georgia…
August 19th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
BillK; …..”and just not tell them which Georgia…”
Not that it would matter if you DID tell them which one. They remain blissfully unaware of the reality surrounding themselves.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
By the way, the latest from the UK’s Telegraph:
So much for NATO’s bluster.
Big surprise, huh?
August 19th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Re: SG’s Post: “I am not on that believes that isolating Russia is the right anwer to its misdemenours” Milford Brown, UK Foriegn Secretary.
Arrmored invasion, manslaugher, mass destruction of property and infrastructure, bank robbery and shooting journalists are misdemeanors in the UK? Oh, I am on my way.
August 19th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I can just imagine how France, Germany or England would feel if Russia had invaded them and basically annexed a little peace of their land. Would suspending ministerial meetings with Russia (a pitiful slap on the wrist) be foolish or short-sighted?
IMO the Western European countries are useless as allies. I doubt it if their militaries could or would be of any use in a serious war. They criticize any military actions we take and if we choose to use sanctions they only see the opportunity to fill the vacuum and make a few bucks. They’ve been able to indulge themselves and spew utopist bullsh*t only because they have had the luxury of living under the U.S. military umbrella. The fact is if it weren’t for the U.S. they would all be a bunch of proletarian slaves today.
Who needs allies like that? I believe the Eastern European countries would make much better allies and friends. They understand the hard realities that the west had escaped and wouldn’t stab us in the back at every turn. The thought of going to war with them at our side is laughable. Personally I’d much prefer a Georgian, Ukrainian or a Pole by my side.
August 20th, 2008 at 5:46 am
The above article is based on a statement that first “ossetian separatists” attacked on georgian villages at the border of the enclave. It’s not anyhow confirmed. Anyway, as a “young democracy” in respect of “european values” Georgia would first be making investigations and using local and international law procedures instead of the full-scale long range heavy artillery and explosive shells attack on unprotected peaceful ossetian capital, the Tshinvali, full of sleeping citizens. No matter of were they russians or georgians or whoever they are, that must be commited as a war crime. This fact involved russia’s forces peacekeeping operation. All the time Georgia existed in compromiss between real criminal powers and rulers and pro-western Saakashvili regime. Criminals used pro-western government to spread their activities worldwide. Now it happened that in Georgia, they have overeacted to incoming russian troops whose definetly were not going to perfom and black operation in revenge, they acted just like peacekeepers. Overreacted in relocating people from the conflict areas, much more than it would be needed. Many towns, villages and even small cities became empty. Criminals equipped with most sophisticated modern weapons dropped by running georgian army are now looting houses and apartments. Georgian police coming now to the cities can’t do anything good to withstand those bands, ones are much stronger, and sometimes they are dressed in russian army style. Russian troops can’t leave in once alltogether unless georgian government runs in normal state of business.
August 20th, 2008 at 6:36 am
leonce….истинная демократия пугает Путина и истинных коммунистов. Должно быть отмечено, что Россия вторглась в другую страну под ложными предлогами. Помните, когда Россия перенесла подобное предательство в руках нацистов? Вы наклоняетесь, защищают Россию на этом. Россия вторглась. Россия боится становления ослабленной демократией. это - это простой.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:54 am
better imagine what would happen if another newly-empowered US ally like Poland eg., becomes to attack another european country. It could be a Slovakia, or even Germany - any neighboring country that has old territorial conflict with Poland. This example better explains what happened. And if Germany strikes back, Poland and the US would become to cry that nazis are back and Germany wants to invade Poland again. Russia never annexed the Ossetia, Stalin (a native georgian) has split the unite Ossetia into North and South parts, annexed the South Ossetia to Georgia and build there a residence for himself. Ossetians lived centuries under bloody vengance of cruel savage georgians. Now it happened again, and the whole world is supporting this wild tribe.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
LeOnce:
I’ll take into consideration, based on your barely-comprehensible arguments, that English is not your first language. That being acknowledged, what the hell are you talking about?! This situation didn’t happen suddenly; the Georgians have been wrestling with the Ossetians since the dissolution of the Soviet Union. The fact is (and despite Stalin having been a native son), Georgia couldn’t wait to extricate themselves from Russian control and ally with the West. The Russians have been using the Ossetia issue to destabilize the Georgian government, and the Georgians finally got fed up with having to defend their own sovereignty against hostile foreign influence. To sum it up: Georgia acted to protect their own interests in their own territory; Russia invaded a foreign country with no provocation. And BTW, how did you get Poland into the argument?
SJ - I don’t know how you posted your thread in Cyrillic, but I love it!
August 20th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Exeter, try babbelfish.
как раз никогда пробуйте и не используйте бэттер пива на этой рыбе
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt
August 20th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Thanks, DEZ - I’ll be sure to use it whenever the opportunity presents itself.
Good to hear from you again - I’ve missed the old neighborhood.