Minus 60, DW? I’m frozen just thinking about that.

This is excellent advice. Once someone has gotten to the point where they are so blatantly, obviously a troll, dog-piling and name-calling just makes us all look bad.
That was a magnificent post (7:50am) BTW, SJ.

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I read it got down to 756 below zero at your crib last night!

Naww…it was only minus 60F. But we’ve got an Alaskan or two on the site now, so I may lose my snivelling bragging rights.

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It’s already 68…

Magnificent post or not, do feel free to pound sand, SIR.

You must be living in mommy’s basement if you think that deporting 12 to 20 million illegals would cost more money than the social services, educational services, healthcare, and crime that they commit (because coming into this country illegally is a federal crime – hence all other actions from then on are also crimes – and spoiled fruits of the original crime). Yepper I do believe that if the Anchor baby clause was not allowed for illegal aliens – we’d see less and less of them. But don’t worry Sparky – when the combo of illegals (who do not pay any taxes other than sales taxes – big whoop) and welfare entitlement groupies reach the tipping point – and our economy starts to collapse – the illegals will go running for the border – what’s the point, if they’d end up being the bottom of a real competive poverty line – with no money to finance it?

Such as, no one here said Ayers killed 12 policemen….you did in your denial of it. He killed one policeman, he stood on the American flag, and he is everything but a productive member of society. He loathes society as it is, and read his article at Huffpo to understand his stance.

There were videotaped incidents at polls in Philadelphia where baton wielding thugs were there to intimidate voters. It’s a matter of record, yet you deny that it happened….again, your credibility sinks ever further because of your insistence at ignoring blatant facts in lieu of your own substitutes.

Obama has relatives on public assistance. That gives them the title of freedloader, because you are visiting a conservative site that thinks of people who take advantage of our programs while remaining in this country as illegals are freedloaders. Again, and again, your argument is diluted, and what is admittedly a very biased opinion upon which you base most of your arguments loses even more of it’s tenuous grip on credibility.

But, when you call Lipstick on a Piaps a racist bigot when as far as I could read, his posts were simply opinions opposite yours, and in no way was what he said even remotely racist, nor bigoted. Your accusation of racism when confronted with factual argument just rings horribly reminiscent of a leftist or liberal tactic of name calling when faced with the fact that you cannot support your argument any longer.

That shows a shallowness that belies your beliefs, and your liberal talking points that were seemingly choreographed by you to stir people up were amusing at best, accusing someone of racism goes beyond that civility you accuse us of lacking. This is where you go from a spirited debater to a simple troll, and I for one wont engage your posts nor recognize you for anything more than you are:. a simple troll having an amusing time playing in someone else’s yard.

You, in your sophomoric attempts at engaging adults in a point counter point argument, have proven to everyone who reads this that you have failed to make your points stick, because every last time in any argument with a leftist or liberal, when the debate goes against them, they resort to “the racism bigotry defense”. You sir/madam/other…..are more of a blinded by ideology bigot than anyone here.

Run along now….because you are laboring under the illusion that your beliefs are somehow more truthful than the facts. A common mistake amongst idealogues, coupled with the time worn accusations of racism, just doesnt work anymore. Nor do your arguments. Go home.

I believe that the illegal alien situation is easily dealt with. The U.S. keeps the cream of the crop; the college students who want to work in essential industries such as health care, the young people serving in the military who love the U.S. and know no other home, the ones who can’t speak much Spanish and who speak perfect English. I know many young people who were not the ones who made the decision to cross illegally or overstay a visa, and I would like to find a way to keep those productive Americans (American in everything but citizenship) and let them give back to this country.

The troublemakers, the ones in jail/prison, welfare fraud, even those driving without a driver’s license, those working on fraudulent documents … adios.

Oh yeah, and seal the border. A nice fence, cliff or moat with alligators would be an excellent start. It will help U.S. authorities know exactly who is in this country … which is an issue of national security, not bigotry.

By the way, I am the daughter of an immigrant who came stateside in the mid 1950s and an American whose paternal ancestors came to the U.S. in the early 1700s. My mother’s family came here from Germany, received no social services or any government assistance, and all learned English within a year of their arrival and they think of themselves as Americans … they have let Germany go. All legal immigrants, the ones who go through the process, do have as much right to be here as my mother did. Operative term “legal immigrants.”

Barack is not a fascist and he is not going to tell you what is best for you. Bush tried to do that when he was president by trying to take a woman’s right to have an abortion away. A woman has a right to have an abortion. It is her body and she should be able to do as she wishes with it.