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Suddenly Abortion IS In Healthcare Bill

From the endlessly mendacious Associated Press:

A shredded copy of the proposed healthcare reform legislation lies in the hallway outside Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s office on Captiol [sic] Hill after a protest against reforms, November 5, 2009.

House opens debate on health care overhaul bill

By Erica Werner, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama’s landmark health care overhaul moved toward a vote in the House Saturday after anti-abortion lawmakers won a chance to knock out language that would let people who get federal subsidies buy insurance plans that include abortion coverage

Abortion-rights supporters were outraged at the concession to abortion opponents. Rep. Diana DeGette, D-Colo., said "there is a risk" that some in the Pro-Choice Caucus would vote against the bill as a result.

The bill would cost more than $1 trillion over the next decade. It would provide health coverage to tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it now, require most employers to offer it to their workers and prohibit insurance companies from denying coverage based on a person’s medical history.

"The status quo is unaffordable and unsustainable. Health care reform benefits all of us," said Rep. Allyson Schwartz, D-Pa., as debate opened on the House floor…

The abortion agreement was reached at midnight Friday after hours of intense negotiations brokered by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. Democratic Reps. Bart Stupak of Michigan, Brad Ellsworth of Indiana and other abortion opponents fought for and won an opportunity to insert tougher restrictions into the legislation during debate, despite fervent opposition from pro-choice liberals who are a driving force behind the overall bill.

"We wish to maintain current law, which says no public funding for abortion," Stupak said.

Federal law currently prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for abortions except in cases of rape, incest or situations in which the life of the mother is in danger. Left unresolved is whether individuals would be permitted to use their own funds to buy insurance coverage for the procedure in the federally backed insurance exchange envisioned under the legislation.

Stupak’s amendment would deny abortion coverage to anyone who gets federal insurance subsidies or buys a policy from the government. People could buy separate policies covering just abortions using their own money.

DeGette called Stupak’s amendment "the biggest restriction on a women’s right to chose that’s been considered on the floor of the House" in her 13 years in office.

The leadership’s hope is that no matter how the vote on the abortion measure turns out, Democrats on both sides of the abortion divide will then unite to give the health care bill a majority over unanimous Republican opposition…

The real joke is that the federal funding of abortion is probably the least of the problems with this outrageous power grab.

When this passes, and it will, there won’t be any aspect of our lives that the federal government will not eventually be able to control.

To act as if the abortion aspect, pro or con, is a major factor in this legislation is simply preposterous. Especially, after we have been repeatedly assured that it would never be permitted under any of the bills passing through Congress.

President Barack Obama’s landmark health care overhaul moved toward a vote in the House Saturday after anti-abortion lawmakers won a chance to knock out language that would let people who get federal subsidies buy insurance plans that include abortion coverage.

But there it is.

After we been told by our media masters and such (laughable) sites as FactCheck.org that there’s nothing in any of the healthcare bills that would allow taxpayer funds to pay for abortions.

After we were mocked as knuckle-dragging, myth-believing troglodytes for even bringing the question up.

But now we are supposed to be grateful because a handful of Congressmen will have five minutes to debate the issue before it is ramrodded through anyway.

The bill would cost more than $1 trillion over the next decade. It would provide health coverage to tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it now, require most employers to offer it to their workers and prohibit insurance companies from denying coverage based on a person’s medical history.

"The status quo is unaffordable and unsustainable. Health care reform benefits all of us," said Rep. Allyson Schwartz, D-Pa., as debate opened on the House floor…

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if pathological liars and thieves like Rep. Schwartz would be held accountable for their lies and actions?

Say, five years in a federal prison for every trillion dollars they are off in their propagandistic lies. Five years in prison for every trillion dollars they steal from the taxpayers.

That seems pretty fair, doesn’t it? It’s actually pretty mild, when you think about it.

In a just world, stealing trillions of dollars from hardworking Americans and enslaving generations unborn should be a capital offense.

This article was posted by Steve on Saturday, November 7th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

22 Responses to “Suddenly Abortion IS In Healthcare Bill”

  1. Media_man says:

    SG writes: “enslaving generations unborn should be a offense.”

    Enslaving those that weren’t murdered before leaving the womb.

  2. Tater Salad says:

    Please, please and please, join the conservative movement which is growing. We want to hold Democrats and Republicans accountable to the voters.

    The TEA PARTY EXPRESS………….. http://www.teapartyexpress.org/

  3. David says:

    DeGette called Stupak’s amendment “the biggest restriction on a women’s right to chose that’s been considered on the floor of the House” in her 13 years in office

    Wait, is that the right of a woman to chose whether or not to have health insurance without being fined or imprisoned by the government or to have an abortion?
    I don’t understand why this question isn’t asked of every single Lib. I don’t see any way that the SCOTUS ruling allowing abortions because government cannot interfere in one medical decision can be construed to allow government to interfere in every other medical decisions.

  4. Tater Salad says:

    Pelosi-Care” … the latest monstrous version of ObamaCare (call it the daughter of ObamaCare) may come to a hasty stealth-vote hours from the time you read this letter.

    That’s because Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, is moving heaven and earth to ram this socialist takeover of our health care system down our throats before anyone has a chance to really read it.

    And, believe it or not, Pelosi-Care is actually worse than all the previous versions of ObamaCare. It’s a move toward government control of your health care, government domination of your life and the eradication of your God-given liberties.

    As economist Ben Stein pointed out on FOX News, the real goal behind Pelosi-Care is “to bring big business to its knees… and to get total social control

    • proreason says:

      The Senate is the place to stop the crime spree, not the House.

      All of the Blue Dogs now know that their political life has ended. Only wide-eyed radicals like Pelosi will have their life of leisure in the House after 2010.

      So the liberals are going for broke.

      Like lemmings, they will jump of the cliff, since they have been told, and can see with their own eyes that there is no hope for them no matter what they do.

      Pelosi and the Moron are guaranteeing lucractive roles to all of them in the crime family in thanks for them jumping off of that cliff.

      Many of them expect to become Health Czars. Little do they know that unless they have iron-clad communist-sympathizer bona-fides, the best they can hope for is a paper pusher role…..at a high price of course. But then, everybody that works for the government has a high price. That’s part of the scam.

  5. Liberals Demise says:

    Will they release the criminals from jail to now house the “criminal” non payers of this unconstitutional Forced Infringement of Individual Rights?

    If it’s a fight they want …………… then it’s a fight they will get!
    Sic Semper Tyrannis

  6. SteveFlesher says:

    Anybody who has been watching CSpan today – as I have been glued to the TV – will see that; TWICE, when called out by John Boehner that both Democrat speakers representing their side of this debate refused to guarantee that they would vote to strike down legislation that would impose our tax dollars to support abortion. Just moments ago, the second time, Charlie Rangel was posed the question and said it was unfair of Boehner to pose that question since he knows himself that it’s impossible to guarantee.

    So, I see now. We’re supposed to trust the fine Democrat from Michigan to hand over an amendment while his own colleagues won’t even guarantee the future vote to uphold that amendment? By the time it gets to that phase, IT WILL BE TOO LATE and anyone watching will understand that.

    The Democrats are not even clever about their drunken spending and advocacy for special interests starting with the ladies of NARAL all the way to the trial lawyers of which over 90% of their campaign contributions go to the liberal candidates at election time.

    I really hope Americans are taking time out of their Saturdays to watch this debate. It’s all they’ll ever need to see what chickenhawks liberals are on these issues.

  7. beautyofreason says:

    Yep, they lied. And count on illegal immigrants receiving coverage, as well.

    Pretty much everything they say they will do, expect the opposite.

  8. jrmcdonald says:

    Won’t matter anyway. The ACLU will file suit that someone’s ‘rights’ are being violated, and some Federal judge like ‘Chubby Che’ will agree.

  9. sheehanjihad says:

    well screw it. The destroy America bill passed. It’s what the American People want” says the plastic fantastic. Well, it isnt, and I have a sneaking suspicion that the Senate wont be as fortunate in their ability to ignore the American People. Pelosi is a slug….a power mad POS. And she assures everyone that this Health Care will be cheap!! Only problem is, we, the American People will have to just pay shipping and handling….again, and again, and again. This makes me ill.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      I hear ya sj

      I read the gleeful piece by AP.

      I posted it in news…but deleted it. Overall, it was written as a piece that was STILL SELLING the lies. It did have some great pointed comments by republicans. However, much of it was an “up yours, whitey” piece.

      I think it odd that even with the serious debate…and the preponderance of evidence to the contrary, humans can still figure out ways to out-think themselves and paint themselves into a corner every single time. Perhaps it’s just our nature. Kind of like “Lord Of The Flies”. Only the adults never show up to take us off the island. Piggy dies and nobody really cares. To acknowledge that would mean they have to admit failure.

      There was one telling last bit in the article that the boy said that the democrats have a history of creating and defending such programs as social security and medicare. I love that slip: “Defending”. My argument is that if they are such great programs and after they go into effect and “we’ll see and agree” then….why do they need defending for the better part of a century?

      And, by the way, does history remember any of the names of the slugs who put those abominations in place? And is the nation better for them? And remember, social security was originally a money-making boondoggle of a deal sold under false pretense. Most people didn’t live to 65 when it was passed so they thought there would always be a surplus. So perhaps their way of making social security profitable again is to make sure we go back to the life-expectancy of 1939 by taking over healthcare.

      I hope….I truly hope that we can win a majority in the coming elections and REMOVE this legislation on a referendum. Pelosi flat out stated that she doesn’t care if she loses her seat….she wants the bill passed. What arrogance.

    • caligirl9 says:

      Pelosi’s arrogance is well-placed. She won’t lose her seat no matter how much she screws this country up. SF voters are simply too stupid to vote her out. They love their “progressive” politicians. That’s why they have an absentee mayor who jets off to Hawaii for a few days of rest after he drops his bid for California’s governor, that’s why they have an ineffective district attorney who will never use the death penalty no matter how horrific the crime, and a board of supervisors hasn’t met an illegal alien they don’t adore.

      Please, God, let there be some moral people left in the Senate who see this bill for the sham it is. I am so sick of paying taxes on what little money I earn.

    • BillK says:

      Why?

      The Senate has the votes on the (D) side as well, and the Obama administration has made it abundantly clear that any (D) that doesn’t vote with them will be targeted from the left as well as the right in the next election.

      I wish I could be as optimistic that something, anything will stop Pelosi/Obamacare.

      Alas, far too many Americans just see freebies, not the true costs involved.

  10. canary says:

    That Johnson woman that worked for Planned Parenthood, described her experience. That she first learned Planned Parenthood’s priority was not to prevent pregnancy’s, but the desire to do abortions because that’s where they make the money $. It was her personal experience doing an ultra-sound on a 13 week old fetus fighting to avoid the probe. I saw of a film of this once, and it’s obvious. Now the doctor’s excuse for this is “reflex” reaction by fetus. would this not mean the baby can feel.
    The major problem with the exception of for a woman’s health, is that with Obama’s Partial-Birth law, full term baby’s slowly murdered after birth (the growing stagedy to keep the baby alive as long as possible to sell the tissue, organs, etc.) changes the meaning of what is a danger to a woman’s life. It should be done in a regular hospital. Pre-planned, long processes of late term abortions in a clinic are not life threatening.

    On the very day of out U.S. hero’s gunned down in cold blood , I noticed the ACLU, Holden, Rahm, were focusing on the torture issue.

    Compare that to the barbaric act of the way abortions are handled. It’s 2009!!! It might cost more, but there’s got to be a more modern medical way, and no money should be made of body parts, to discourage greedy doctors and government. How can someone feel good if they live, because of a baby’s kidney implanted in them to grow a new kidney.

    Wonder if they counted the one soldier’s baby. She had served her full term in Iraq prior, to her exiting the military and pregnant. That baby’s death should be added to the charges. Or did Obama do away with that law Bush passed that unborn baby’s would be counted in homicides.

  11. katmeredith says:

    “Stupak’s amendment would deny abortion coverage to anyone who gets federal insurance subsidies or buys a policy from the government. People could buy separate policies covering just abortions using their own money.”

    *BEGIN RANT* What I love here is the implication that you need to pay someone to insure you *in case* you ever need an abortion. How stupid are women these days? I’m still trying to get my insurance to take out the pregnancy coverage that I won’t be using and lower my premium. Not to mention the addictions coverage, the psychological coverage, the dental coverage (that’s what dental insurance is for and it does it better), the vision coverage (ditto), the prostate cancer coverage (although they may substitute breast for that, I’m not sure), et al. Why on earth would a woman be paying to insure against an unplanned solution to an unplanned event that should, hopefully, if you use the contraceptive that *is* rightfully covered, *never* happen? I know that I, personally, want coverage for things like if my arm gets severed in a really random accident (preferably good enough coverage to get me a new arm), if I get cancer (odds are getting better everyday), if I develop a chronic disease like Lupus or Diabetes (family history), and various other catastrophic problems. Abortion is not a catastrophic problem, it’s not even technically a problem, it’s a solution to something that isn’t even technically a problem. I don’t insure against solutions. *END RANT*

    • canary says:

      That is not my understanding in reading it is. I think it includes abortions due to rape, incest, or to save mother’s life, the supplemental insurance is for regular abortions. Now what the supplemental insurance will cost a month will be interesting. Prehaps for 10 bucks a month your first was in paid, but the next abortion only half is paid, the 3rd that don’t pay.
      Who’d have dreamed. Or maybe it they will have different policies. 25 bucks a month gives.

      The point is Nancy Pelosi and Obama say they will make money off their public option and pay back the trillions.

      I don’t think that being pregnant is a health or sickness problem, but according to Obama
      it’s punishment or even torture to be stuck with a baby after it’s born.

  12. U NO HOO says:

    I am 100% against abortion. But it really is a smoke screen, intentional or not that covers the fact that this/these bills should not have ever gotten this far. Women will always get an abortion, I mean a scrape job, I mean a D&C, I mean a minor correction for a private female condition….we probably all have heard those euphemisms.

    Don’t pass a bill.

    Catholics in favor of these bills, shame on you.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      “Abortion is not Birth Control!!”

    • catie says:

      Friday night I was at Costco & parked in an handicapped spot was a big truck with my Parrish sticker on it & the local Catholic school as well as an Obummer/Biden sticker. On my way out the fat as a barn, cow who was loading her food into the car I couldn’t help but say to her, “You must be a social justice, pro death Catholic, am I correct?”. She looked at me and said something that was inaudible. I’m sure it was a compliment on my new jacket/not. I cannot stand these people. There has to be a special place in hell for them.

    • proreason says:

      ““You must be a social justice, pro death Catholic”

      They aren’t non-violent either, Catie.

      Like everything else they say, the “for peace” schtick is a sham, too. Non-violence is only applicable to what they want YOU to do.

      In other words, be careful. They’ll pry your eyes out in a flash.

    • BannedbytheTaliban says:

      My new past time is wait by cars with Obama stickers with my hand out. When the owner looks at me with a blank stare I tell them I want my “wealth redistribution” without the middle man. They usually aren’t too happy.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      Too funny, BbtT!


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