I’ve heard of him…brilliant man! ;-D

“Of course those (and most) tests were/are biased. Tests are supposed to discriminate…. against the unprepared, ignorant, and the stupid. Can anyone think of a better reason for a test?”

Is it too late for a test for the Presidency? It certainly seems o-blah-blah is indeed unprepared, ignorant, and stupid.

(gotta come up with a test for the voters, too) (bye, bye ACORN)

They are saying they can’t learn because they come from a “poor” or deprived background. They want the test to better reflect THEIR experiences in life…not the one we use (or should use) now as a goal…not one that holds up the betterment of thought and ideas as a goal.

Can you see one of those questions?

Q- “Yo! Bro! Did yo see DA bro hoes take DA “deck,”? ( a glassine envelope of a white powdery substance.) (FYI…copied this sentence from somewhere else…I’m not that street savy…LOL)

Yep…she might get that one right where you and I would fail that test. That’s fair…right? > :- I (sarc)

I would be so embarrassed to know I got in a university slot or a professional job even though I didn’t have the intelligence to be there.

If I did get one under those conditions, I surely wouldn’t be bragging about it like Sotomayor. That alone says volumes about her smarts.

What she and others who get affirmative action helps are saying is that they admit they aren’t very smart and can’t make it without a “handicap allowance” (as in golf).

As I said…maybe…maybe a child can be culturally deprived, but somehow, by the time they get to be an adult, surly they can’t (I know..they do anyway) expect to be spoon fed due to “cultural bias”.

First, this should have never gotten past the first court case which should have been decided for the NH Firemen instantly and unanimously. That this issue went further is a scary testament to how deeply Americans are invested in wrong-headed ideas.

Second, the idea of “biased” testing is questionable. Tests of any form are “biased” by definition. All tests are tilted in favor of the testee who has accumulated the knowledge needed to correctly answer the questions. In other words, tests are designed to measure your knowledge of certain information. If you KNOW the information the test “favors” you. If you don’t know what is required, then you can’t score adequately. What does race, culture or backround have to do with accumulating the knowledge necessary to answer questions that measure your knowledge? The answer is NONE. 2+2=4 for both whites and minorities. Pearl Harbor was bombed on Dec.7 no matter what race you are. Questions related to Fire Fighting also have distinct and correct answers which have nothing to do with the ethnicity of the test taker. Because Fire Dept. Jobs are so dangerous, it’s reasonable to assume that candidates for command that have not accumulated the required knowledge measured by objective testing are absolutely UNQUALIFIED for command and are dangerous both to the public and those under their command.
“Cultural” biases in testing could exist, say if the test was given in Swahili and a few of the testees did not have command of that tounge, however it could also be said that even that “command” is prerequisite knowledge that is required….
Finding reasonable examples of cultural biases is possible, though off-hand, I’m having a hard time thinking of one. But in general the concept has been expanded and inflated well beyond it’s actual effects on testing….

I still struggle with filling out these ‘racial’ questions – as 1/2 of my background is a great big ? mark and it does appear to be a very big part of who I am.

And I’ve have known a ‘black’ family – that is whiter than I will ever be – and I know personally the horrible struggle they had as the ‘black’ community did not want to accept them – even though more than 3/4 of their genetics (which is higher than The One’s ™) is black. Is that ‘fair’ and ‘justice’ and of course the Liberal’s favorite word – tolerant?

But that is what the Liberal’s want – chaos, anger, hate, divisiveness, anarchy – so that indeed when the next John Brown incident in America happens – they can step in and take away all of our Rights in one single swoop.

And then we will be Iran – run by a puppet dictator who is controlled by unknown forces bent on World Domination.

Hitler would be so proud.

And yes, you and I are on the same page – just from different angles. Again, my apologies.

And, Georgfelis, the only rules I know of on this blog is to use proper punctuation and avoid vulgarities and violent language. I think, however, SG should add a rule about reading and understanding someone’s comments before jumping on the commenter. Georgfelis – ‘Play suppose’ all you want – it’s called being ‘hypothetical’ and we all engage in it. Your points are as welcome here as anyone else. Unless there’s a special ‘subcommittee’ of self-assigned censors here??

And it does not matter at all – discrimination is discrimination. It does not matter who is discriminated against and who is doing the discriminating.

And until that attitude is ingrained into each and every mind in America – we will continue to see people (mostly minorities) complaining that the tests are racially biased and whites being marginalized and discriminated against to favor someone – not on their character, not on their education, not on their skills and talents – but rather on their color.

And that is discrimination any way you, ahem, color it.

BTW –

Lets play “Suppose” for a minute.

Games are for children. Grow up before you participate in debate, discussion and serious civil and social matters in America.

She went to a private Catholic “Cardinal Spellman High School”academically rigorous parochial school. It was segregated when she attended.

Sounds too familiar, from another whiner pretending to grow up impoverished. snif. Quick to pull out the ole race card they wear on their shoulders.

Indeed, I don’t know how they feel. They’ve never had laws against them and a nation of courts and judges like Sotomayor who couldn’t see racism when it came to my people. If there is such a thing as discrimination against hiring blacks, the employer who commits it is met with immmediate litigation by breathless courts waiting to hear such cases.

Forty years of punnishing me has left me with a bad attitude, for I didn’t do anything to deserve it. When Leahy defends Sotomayor’s unsigned support of the further killing of Frank Ricci’s dreams to do better for his family, he further drives the knife into all of our white backs.

Leahy is begging the next John Brown incident in America to asemble the disenfranchised with knives and rage in their hearts.

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