http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Y80ue92Ao

Just goes to show you, there are aholes everywhere. Don’t take their crap!

PS: Is it just me, or is Neidermeyer (the prosecutor) the spitting image of Al Gore.

We’re havin’ the same difficulty with the belief thing over here in the US, Mr Supreme Leader Khamenei dude ..

BTW, .. do you need any of Franken’s help? Just askin’, ya know.

I think it’s hard for us in the US, because thousands of American soldiers gave their lives or lost limbs in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Bush asked them to weather these sacrifices because Bush had a vision of exactly what is happening in Iran. Bush believed in the people of Iran, he believed they wanted democracy and he believed our country’s sacrifices in the Middle East would make Iranian democratic movements possible.

I do think it’s important to say thank you to Bush, and also to hold Obama accountable for the fact that he was wrong all along. That’s not to exploit Iran for our political game, just to be fair to the sacrifices America made and to Bush, who came under terrible attacks because he believed that Iranians and others in the other did, deep inside, want democracy.

I’m strongly trying to resist the urge to generalize these protesters. By and large I wouldn’t be surprised to see a very Obama-friendly government and liberalite culture emerge from formerly oppressed Iran (such is a trend when going from one extreme to the other) but right now what’s uniting them is their desire to stand against tyranny. Now Bam finally came out and struck a better tone on this probably because he saw that he was getting creamed in the polls with this luke-warm response (way to play both sides of the fence there chief). He’s positioned himself pretty well to be the hero on the white horse which is how we know it’ll be reported.

I’m okay with all of this. An Iranian nation without Khomenei and Ahmadinejad is a safer America and a safer world; if that miracle is realized then this whole thing has been completely divine. Where conservatives cannot fall into the coming trap is to keep making this about Obama or Bush. What’s done is done and the facts are there for those who don’t know.

Thank you Professor Lopez and Proreason for your points, they are well taken. I’ll try and take it a step further: if the old regime is done and we see a uniquely democratic Iran emerge from this then it is going to continue to have to be the conservative movement that keeps the emotionally charged and inspired Iranians from resisting the populist tug of whatever will be under sleezy Bam’s sleeve. Mousavi/Montazeri’s first instinct is going to be to engage the West, and we cannot afford the tentacles of our socialist wing to spoil an otherwise pure essence. The Iranians do not want to trade one blatant dictatorship for a less obvious one, and such would be as damaging to America’s image abroad as they ‘say’ Bush was.

The way we do that is with a watchful eye we engage more, criticize less and make calculated stands on the big truth rather than the little diversions he throws at us. On non-Iran issues we can criticize all we want!

I’m not at all sure they hate Bush. Even if they do they do want the attention and support of the English speaking world…ie the “free” world (hope it lasts)

I find it interesting they had so many signs in English. Amazing. We here in the west owe all our support to their efforts. Even if not perfect, they are moving in the right direction.

Shame…we are doing the very same thing….in reverse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lx52sBLtKI

You hit the nail on the head. With all his stand-backing and say little, he said fighting words, in this is what he wanted to see from the opposition. This was his absolute goal in Chicago. The closest he got was when he started hanging around Reverand Wright, gangabangers, and criminals. Even acknowledges he had “Obama’s Army” in a joking fasion.
He will remain quiet, but prepared to bow down, get his nose browner with whoever does come out on top.
Seriously, with all the election and voter fraud that got Obama elected, I’m sure he doesn’t want to make it an issue. But, nice to know if we’d have come out in 100,000 crowds and protest the election, wonder how’d he react. He made fun of the tea-partys because they were peaceful, a joke to his Chicago days.

A pickle perhaps, with people with a brain.

But unless the MSM gets on this, it’s a tree falling in a forest.

And I’ll guarantee one thing……if something good results from the events in Iran…..he will take credit for it. And the msm will sing his praises.

I can hear the spin now.

Exactly. His view of liberty is that it is just something capitalists have taken advantage of to exploit people of other races who didn’t have equivalent “luck”. For that reason, he despises liberty.

So, seeing no benefits to liberty, he is genuinely neutral about Iran.

And of course, he also doesn’t want anything interfering with his nefarious schemes.

I’m starting to get as angry as everyone else in the right-wing blogosphere. Let me go have a cocktail before I start screaming at people in Los Angeles with “BUSH IS A WAR CRIMINAL” and “OBAMA IS PEACE” bumper stickers.

Obama rose to power almost totally because he opposed the Iraq War publicly in 2002 while Hillary Clinton voted for it. That was his clincher; and now it seems he was totally wrong. I think he’s simply embarrassed. (As am I, since I thought the protests weren’t legitimate for the first few days either.) But he needs to get over his embarrassment and take this opportunity to apologize to Bush.

If he can apologize to Egypt, why can’t Obama just say to Bush, “Sorry, you were right, I was wrong. Let’s finally make it to the finish line and secure the victory you made possible”?