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The Hive – Final McCain/Obama Debate

A place for stinging commentary on the final Presidential debate.

Let’s hope McCain ignores the well intended advice from our one party media and hammers Obama.

It could happen.

Really it could.

Honest.

 

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 8:08 pm. You can leave a response.

154 Responses to “The Hive – Final McCain/Obama Debate”

  1. bpjam
    October 15, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    Is anybody going to bring up the diatribe by Michelle Obama to the African Press International??

    http://africanpress.wordpress......ne-to-api/

    Michelle called us all racists, evil, filled with envy and accused the African Press of essentially backing evil opponents of Barry and betraying Africans. It’s so incredibly racists I can hardly believe even Africans wouldn’t be offended.

  2. Anonymoose
    October 15, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Michelle called us all racists, evil, filled with envy and accused the African Press of essentially backing evil opponents of Barry and betraying Africans. It’s so incredibly racists I can hardly believe even Africans wouldn’t be offended.

    I keep having this recurring dream of “gorgeous and gracious” first lady Michelle getting into an all-out cat fight with Putin’s mistress at an official dinner, and not knowing whether to laugh or hide under my desk once World War III starts……..

  3. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    fully stocked tonite.

    drinking when I hear “deregulation,” “economah,” “failed Bush policies”,

    i’ll make more up if it gets dull.

  4. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Mac looks likes he’s got gas

  5. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    Joe the plumber is now a drink word.

    Nail him on the taxes Johnny Mac.

  6. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    Taxes…Nice swing by Mac. Obama on the ropes. This could be good.

  7. acamos
    October 15, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    I swear to God I could make these arguments better that McCain. I think that all or most of the people reading these blogs can see through this bullshit. Please tell me that there are more of us than them.

  8. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    If you have a neighbor like Tony Rezco of course you can afford to pay more taxes Senator Obama!

  9. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Wealth redistribution is investment now-when do I get my dividend check?

  10. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    ya he can’t think of a cut. SUCH A MOPE!

    profligate! he’s projecting again.

  11. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Is McCain participating in the debate I’m watching?

  12. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    spending freeze doesn’t satisfy Schieffer–note how he presses Mac for cuts while Dumbo doesn’t give us one cut program!

    Schieffer won’t press Dumbo on it tho.

  13. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Take a scalpel to those EARmarks Obama!

  14. Kilmeny
    October 15, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    Nice zing about running against Bush.

  15. sheehanjihad
    October 15, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Somebody gave McCain an espresso….he has nothing to lose, he should hit heavier.

  16. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Good thing Michelle set out his special flagpin tonight.

  17. sheehanjihad
    October 15, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Yeah, she’s picking out sites for the re education camps right now….

  18. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Big Mac–I’m not President Bush. I like that. Take a hatchet and a scalpel. Schieffer how ’bout some cuts from Dumbo! Some plans are underfunded?

  19. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    William Ayers has been setting up re education camps for years, right under our noses.

  20. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    Be a man Obama! Quit the Gracie Ju-Jitsu bullshit and apologize for Lewis!

  21. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Obama doesn’t apologize. He re-explains. For us. So we understand better.

  22. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    He said tit-hehehehe. Is he talking about the one attatched to the government treasury?

  23. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    Dumbo won’t repudiate Lewis, Big Mac showing some righteous anger!

  24. 1sttofight
    October 15, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    McCain is kicking ass and not taking names.

    Ohhhh Ahhh

  25. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Ayers is human-rehabilitation is defined.

  26. wardmama4
    October 15, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Obama did not denounce the t-shirts he tried to deflect it by talking about the merits of the campaign and attempted to take the discussion back to the economy. Then McCain zinged him on ACORN and the arrogant little sob was laughing at him – what a disgusting schmuck.

  27. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    McCain is being too polite—he should plow into this bastard.

  28. sheehanjihad
    October 15, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Obama is defending ACORN! That effing jerk! Yeah, America, elect a fraud.

  29. Steve
    October 15, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Obama is LYING about ACORN again.

  30. acamos
    October 15, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Call him a liar dammit

  31. Kilmeny
    October 15, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    God, he is absolutely shameless.

  32. Steve
    October 15, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Schieffer is such a whore.

    He let Obama rattle on for five minutes about ACORN/Ayers, and saying nothing.

    But notice that everytime McCain makes a point about Obama he says “all right, let’s move on.”

    It’s like clockwork.

  33. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    For the sake of being polite, McCain will hand this nitwit (probable non-citizen) the election. Can anyone spell “succession”?

  34. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Jane, who owns a small Sarah Palin is a u no wat T-shirt business, will be out of a job in November and we need to help her.

  35. acamos
    October 15, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every single foreign policy issue since he has been in the Senate. An eel would have been right on at least one. A fool proof method of deciding how to vote would be to be the opposite of Joe.

  36. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Joe the plumber will be opening up a gun shop soon and he will be making way more than a quarter million this year. Tax his ass!

  37. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    If we elect this Obama nitwit, the republic is done. This guy lies better than anyone I’ve ever seen.

  38. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    My main agreement with Senator Biden is that his running mate is not qualified!

  39. Eilsel
    October 15, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Is he better than Slick Willy? I wasn’t politically awake during the Clinton years and lived abroad for a portion of it.

  40. sheehanjihad
    October 15, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    HUSSEIN IS A LIAR!!!!!! A FREAKIN LIAR~! there…

  41. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    He is Slick Willy 2.0 Updated software for the 21st century, reduced FIRMware dependence.

  42. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Did Barry negotiate a smoke-break?

  43. acamos
    October 15, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    I listened intently to what he just said and I swear my IQ dropped by 15 points.

  44. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    He is YOGI BEAR! Anyway, what a cesspool swimmer. He needs that smirk slapped off his acorn loving face. Did you see him turn several shades of color when McCain was hammering away about ayers and acorn? That was worth the price of admission.

  45. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    I will not release my records regarding Free Trade with Columbia.

  46. SJames
    October 15, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    Light him up on offshore drilling Mac. I like it. “pay attention to his words.”

  47. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    Yeah slam our Colombian allies Dumbo–I can’t believe this guy gets one Hispanic vote.

    The government targets labor leaders? GMAFB

  48. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    I think BO is having his ass served up to him tonight, he is stammering about nonsense.

  49. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    I have many comrades in Peru-comrade Guillermo Arrez for instance.

  50. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    Obama is a menace. Given the fraud by his bubbas at ACORN, if he is elected, the Republic will dissolve. This man is criminal, in association and intent.

  51. Eilsel
    October 15, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Darn, I’m only listening to it…I can’t see anything.

  52. SJames
    October 15, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    He IS Stammering.

  53. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    What a typical Obama response: WE GOTTA DO BOTH!!!! He’s like a child at a candy store. “I want EVERYTHING MOMMY!!!!”

  54. Steve
    October 15, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    BHO’s responses are always ludicrously vague.

    For instance, re: healthcare — we are going to try to lower costs.

    Really? That is BRILLIANT!!!

  55. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    I have a cunning plan…

    I am gonna spread the health around…

  56. texaspsue
    October 15, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    I’m giving BO a new nickname, tap dancer. He tap dances around every question asked and every issue raised.

    Here’s what the MSM will say of BO in the Debate tonight……………..
    1. He’s soo articulate.
    2. He looked so Presidential.
    3. He really explained his issues well.
    4. He has a lot of great ideas.

    Sheesh, you just watch……………… Praise for the Messiah, after the Debate.

  57. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Obama’s explanation about healthcare is laughable…McCain should whack him.

  58. sheehanjihad
    October 15, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    He reminds me of that lawyer Richard Gere played in “CHICAGO”…..perfect analogy. He talks with so many words, says absolutely nothing. Tell you what Hussy….I will “look” into paying my taxes this year, ok? Tap Dancer? Uh, that’s racist you know….but oh so true.

  59. Eilsel
    October 15, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    You know that scene in Chicago where Richard Gere does a tap dance…razzle dazzle? That what Texaspsue made me think of. Same basic theory…in the movie and here.

  60. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    Joe the plummer will be my secretary of Health and Human Services.

    Go away from the light Joe…

  61. texaspsue
    October 15, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    Go tap dancer go, now he’s changing the explanation of tax on small businesses! LOL Does BO even know what he is talking about? I’m confused.

  62. Steve
    October 15, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Even Hillary noted that Obama lied about backing “single payer healthcare”:

    Obama On Single Payer Healthcare Program
    http://campaigncircus.com/video_player.php?v=7197

    Obama is a pathological liar.

  63. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Damn, I was thinking Sammy David jr.

  64. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    what is he talking about? how many large corporations DO NOT pay health insurance? also, he tap danced around what we consider a large v small business and wants to tax the hell out of them. mccain just caused BO to gulp some water—-knock his smug self on his ass.

  65. Eilsel
    October 15, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Sammy was jewish, wasn’t he? Obama’s friends wouldn’t like that, nicotusc15.

  66. 4USA
    October 15, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Shafer has made this into the Obama show. I want to see an analysis on time taken by each candidate to speak.

  67. SJames
    October 15, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    “Senator Government” Now that was Freudian.

  68. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    I control the vertical and the horizontal…who’s the master now biach?

    The first thing we do let’s screw all of the doctors…

  69. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Dumbo will let you keep your health care plan and pay for everybody else’s.

    How much longer does Obie get over McCain for health care? Schieffer has yet to cut off the dumbonator.

  70. texaspsue
    October 15, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    ….”Tap Dancer?”

    Say it ain’t so SJ, I didn’t get my manual of words that are racist in the mail yet. Thanks for straightening me out on that. LOL :-)

  71. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    This thing was rigged for the obama. McCain is holding his own, but the strings are being pulled by his advocates.

  72. Eilsel
    October 15, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    Hey! McCain plowed through the interruption! GO!

  73. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    They should keep a “Time of Possession” clock like in the NFL

  74. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    bO looks like a praying mantis on crack—yes i said crack

  75. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    If McCain gets elected does that mean that Whoopie Goldberg will have to be aborted?

  76. Eilsel
    October 15, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Where does the constitution have a right to privacy in it? Did I miss a new amendment? Is it in the 20 somethings?

  77. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    1republicanscientist : crack would not surprise me.

  78. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    How about a clock like they use in chess matches?

  79. wardmama4
    October 15, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Did Obama just say that ’some issues’ do not belong in the states right or in a popular vote? So Obama thinks that he and/or Government is/are the only abiter of ’some issues’?

    What an arrogant a**h***. And dangerous.

  80. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Mac is scoring so many body blows it’s great. Unfortunately, he’ll just be viewed as a bully by the mainsteam media.

  81. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    go johnny, go!!!

  82. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    The TODDI defense: The other dude did it (too). The republicans did it too!

  83. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    he is a weasel

  84. wardmama4
    October 15, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    OMG did Obama just use the very ‘defense’ for Roe v Wade to ‘defend’ his vote against the IBAO?

    Forget my last comment – he is not only arrogant and dangerous – he is an idiot.

  85. BillK
    October 15, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    I hate to be this silly, but is anyone watching this on CNN? The lighting makes Obama look like an Oompa-Loompa.

  86. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Senator McCain wants to take a hatchet to Roe v Wade-I use a scalpel!

  87. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Obama is evil. If he’s elected, we should succeed. Hell, most of the military is from Red State America—and who would follow Obama?

  88. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    gulping more water—-looking ashen

  89. Eilsel
    October 15, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    I WANT TO SEEEEE THE DEBATES. You all make me jealous of your viewing privilages.

  90. sheehanjihad
    October 15, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    hey, crack is racist too….ask that fat Lewis jerk. Tex…..the “tap dancer” being racist stems from the old days where blacks who excelled at tap dancing were given jobs on stage and in movies…..so of course, that stereotype exists today in all race baiters! Crack of course, was created and distributed soley in the black community by our own government to keep the “black folks down”. Hey, ask the professional race baiter John Lewis~! To him, everything is racist…except him of course.

  91. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Will the Army of New Teachers also have the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell Policy?

  92. Eilsel
    October 15, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Maybe Obama will pay for me to get cable so I can watch TV.

  93. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Big Mac giving him the stinkeye on education. Slam the teacher’s unions Mac–they’ve wasted billions on education and these kids are still idiots.

  94. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    well, what a surprise—–”we’d do both”

  95. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Obama is pandering to the young. Life is difficult…he’s passing out goodies for votes…

  96. Steve
    October 15, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    $4,000 tuition credit every year — if you will just go work for ACORN.

  97. sheehanjihad
    October 15, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    McCain is doing better than I thought he would…..just not hitting hard enough to suit me

  98. Consilience
    October 15, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    SG, you’re right—hit the ACORN solution—-this guy is a menace.

  99. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Also—-you can qualify for a Pell grant —-free! What’s more, you can make more than 4000K working a campus job of YOUR CHOICE, rather than working for the ACLU or acorn or the black panthers, you get the point

  100. Steve
    October 15, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    If “early childhood education” is such a panacea — why are we so worse off now after years of trying that than we were before we ever heard of the phrase?

  101. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Isn’t abortion bad for teacher’s unions? No abortion left behind.

    How did he double the charter schools in Illinois? Is that like the loaves and fishes miracle?

  102. Kilmeny
    October 15, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    And of course his solution is to toss more money at public schools. Old, unoriginal, and useless answer.

  103. texaspsue
    October 15, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    I like the way you think Consilience, get all of Middle America secede from the Union. (Cool.) In Texas all you have to do is circulate a petition to get it on the ballot and then let the PEOPLE vote on it.

    Your right pinandpuller, BO DOES use the The TODDI defense a lot. (Great term BTW.) lol

  104. Steve
    October 15, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    McCain just noted that “Headstart” makes no difference whatsoever.

    Alas, his solution is to “reform it.”

  105. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    I live in Cincinnati and you should see the big, beautiful multimillion dollar schools being built in bullet riddled areas taht provide NO TAX BASE while the outlying suburban schools, WITH THE TAX BASE, smell like old gym shoes and have leaky roofs.

  106. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Why doesn’t he brag about his executive experience reforming the Chicago school system?

  107. BillK
    October 15, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    When it comes to Roe vs. Wade, why not take the left’s own preferred choice – a pair of scissors to the lower back of the skull, followed by vacuum extraction of the contents?

  108. nicotusc15
    October 15, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Why did Bob emphasize “ORRRGGGG!!!” like that? Kinda creepy.

  109. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    I mentioned to a pro abortion egg head that is an animal rights activist that I felt puppy dog abortions was a good thing for choice and they about blew their lid.

  110. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    President Obama came to the grand opening of his “crown jewel” charter school today-Guy Fawkes Middle School.

    Does anybody here read William W Johnstone books, specifically the “Out of the Ashes” series?

  111. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    texaspsue
    Your right pinandpuller, BO DOES use the The TODDI defense a lot. (Great term BTW.) lol

    That term comes from Joseph Wambaugh. If you don’t know who he is you should check him out, I’m sure you would like his writing.

  112. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    michelle obama is a hulk

  113. texaspsue
    October 15, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Winner of the Debate? Tada! Joe the Plumber! (Hands down.)

  114. notsoyoungjim
    October 15, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Dumbo gets the last word again tonite. Along with most of the time.

    Now the talking pin heads will say it don’t matter, Dumbo’s magic ears will let him fly.

  115. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    BillK

    October 15th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
    When it comes to Roe vs. Wade, why not take the left’s own preferred choice – a pair of scissors to the lower back of the skull, followed by vacuum extraction of the contents?

    Are you an Orek or a Dyson guy?

  116. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    1republicanscientist

    October 15th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
    michelle obama is a hulk

    Has anyone seen Grace Jones lately? Or is Juwanaman more applicable?

  117. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    HAHAHA———I think she would break grace jones will to live with a simple twist of her walnut cracking hands

  118. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    If Obama loses maybe Michelle can be a Bond girl-or maybe a Bond villan who steals elections for ACORN.

  119. brazilian
    October 15, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    Folks:

    I`ve got in when Hussein was accusing Colombia of harrassing workers… BLATANT LIE!!!!! His problem w/ Mr. Uribe is that he`s giving that communists form FARC what they deserve: JAIL to surrenders and BULLETS to criminals. And, gee!, Colombia is really (as Mac pointed out) the ONLY FRIEND America has in South America, the only country that hasn`t fallen to communism.

    Nobody is to get fooled out by Lula da Silva: he is, along w/ Fidel Castro, the puppeteer beind Chavez, Correa, Morales and Fernando Lugo. Their goal, in their own words, is to “recover in Latin America what was lost in Eastern Europe”.

    To whom it may interest, articles on South America real take-over by the communists are available at

    http://www.olavodecarvalho.org/english/

    Again, I hope (and pray) for the best to America, for its light can`t fade away.

    Blessings over you all, and all against that “Manchurian Candidate” Obama.

    A Concerned Brazilian

  120. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Best import from Columbia: Shakira.

  121. 1republicanscientist
    October 15, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    considering the ayers situation, what if McCain hung out with an “ex” abortion clinic bomber?

  122. Eilsel
    October 15, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    1republicanscientist: you are cracking me up.

  123. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Is anyone really ever an “ex” abortion clinic bomber? Did you see that “Seinfeld” episode where Elaine was dating a guy named Joel Rifkin?

  124. BillK
    October 15, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    The heck with an abortion clinic bomber, by the Obama campaign’s logic if Presidential candidates hung around with Bin Laden it would be OK, because 2001 was “so long ago.”

  125. acamos
    October 15, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    We may soon be facing the biggest crisis in the history of the republic. The White House, both branches of Congress, the Courts (5-4 on issues central to the survival of the of our system), and the bureaucracy all pulling to the Left. If we don’t defeat him we may soon be meeting in the streets.

  126. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    Krauthamer sez Obama would have kept his composure if a grenade had gone off…Bill Ayers! Stand up Bill, God luv ya!

  127. texaspsue
    October 15, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    Thanks for your concern and prayers, brazilian. Prayers to you and your fellow Countrymen as well. We are all in dire times. Some say, “the Battle of Good and Evil”. Freedom shall prevail!

  128. Reality Bytes
    October 15, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    YO! SG YES I AM YELLING!

    WATCHING THE MEDIA REACTION, TONIGHT AMERICA DRANK FROM THE POISONED WELL AND EVERYONE HAS GONE INSANE FOR (it would ryhme nicely if it actually were McCain)

    BUT NO OBAMA!

    NOW! YOU HAVE A CHOICE! YOU CAN DRINK FROM THE SAME WELL AND BE AS CRAZY AS EVERYONE ELSE!

    OR, YOU CAN HOLD ONTO YOUR CONVICTIONS, WHAT YOU SAY AND WHAT YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEARTS – EVEN IF THAT MEANS LOOSING THIS ONE ELECTION.

    WE WILL BE BACK!!!

    And judging from the immaculate reason of the great Obama, it will not be long.

    God Save Our Country. God Bless You All!

    RB – Out!

    Oh Man, this is gonna be one long winter.

  129. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    No worries acamos-I just just dug up an old issue of “Mother Earth News”-it has a great article on torches and pitchforks…although it may be more like “Dawn of the Dead”.

  130. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    I predict that Joe the plumber gets a Subway commercial.

  131. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    Fruits and nuts with no dates:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i.....29&p=1

  132. Landshark
    October 15, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    –A Concerned Brazilian–

    Aqui fala Americano de passaporte e Brasileiro de coracao!

    Eu morei no Brasil na era que a Lula era bobao. Pois era MAIS bobao que agora.

    Bem vindo al melhor blog do internet.

  133. texaspsue
    October 15, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    Amen to that Reality Bytes. But don’t despair, not yet. The MSM is not the voice of Most America, especially Middle America……………. it’s only an illusion. I’m just saying……………. I haven’t heard the “fat lady” sing yet, so hold on. :-)

    I am getting sick of hearing these MSM terms of winning the Debate:

    MSM rule For BO: “all he has to do to win is to not mess up that bad and I think he managed to do that”.

    MSM rule For McCain: “he has to sell himself to the American people, I just don’t think he’s done that yet”.

    Give me a break! Who makes up this nonsense?

  134. Sharps Rifle
    October 15, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    Consilience: You mean “secede.” The only things that would succeed under Obama is Communism and racial preferences.

  135. Liberals Demise
    October 15, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    God this is some quick sh!t for an old grunt like me to make a play in …..but here goes……I call on all true Americans’ to adapt to the thought that the prez is gonna be …….Joe the plumber!! Who better to call the business line on cost. Who better to call the accountant to pay the workers! NO MIDDLE MAN!!!
    GOOD GOD, AIN’T THAT WHAT WE BEEN PRAYING FOR? FIRE BROTHA HO!! YOU ALLLLLL ARE FIRED!!!! YOU SCREWED OUR NATION UP!!! E-N-O-U-G-H-!!

  136. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    LD-Obama’s not smart enough to be a plumber even tho he knows his dope and his wife’s a wrench…u know what I mean…

  137. Liberals Demise
    October 15, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    I Propose we drink till the sky is…………… commie pink!! ( To the MSM: Murrow would be proud!!)
    Divide…..Seperate….Conquer
    Worked for Lenin
    Worked for Stalin
    Sad State For ACORN

  138. Liberals Demise
    October 15, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Did everyonre forget a war that was thrust upon our nation?

  139. BillK
    October 15, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

    Enough said. :-)

  140. Odie44
    October 15, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    McCain missed a softball moment:

    When asked about education – he could have killed 3 birds with one stone with this answer:
    “Throwing money, like $90M with the Chicago Annenberg Commission, that Sen Obama ran with known terrorist William Ayers – was concluded to be a total failure based on the Annenberg Audit released recently. Instead of concentrating on reading, writing and arithmatic, Sen Obama and Ayers promoted radical ideology over basic education”

    Game, set, match.

  141. pinandpuller
    October 15, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Wouldn’t it be weird if the first president (likely) related to slave-traders started the second civil-war? Why are liberals worried about Sarah Palin launching missles at Russia? What about the assault on our soil?

  142. BillK
    October 15, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Yeah, but that would require McCain to answer in anything but the most non-partisan manner possible.

    If McCain wins in November it will be despite his campaign style, certainly not because of it.

    If I was interviewing McCain for a job I’d never call him back because it’s apparent he doesn’t seem to actually want it – sort of like a college kid who signs up for an appointment with a particular company’s recruiter because all of his friends did.

    (I’d hire Palin though – she obviously has the enthusiasm and drive required.)

    Pity we’ll have to wait until 2012 at the earliest to see an Obama/Palin debate…

  143. Liberals Demise
    October 15, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    “I” am an American who remembers a nation ; Divided; and “I” remember a Nation that chose to “Forget” a generation of “Warriors”! We were young, we were brave and we were “THERE”!! I don’t remember Obama at 8 yrs. old but I know he wasn’t, THERE!! Hell… for that fact….Ayers was a CRIMINAL at the time!! All that really matters is….I am still a “BABY KILLER”……..Ayers has been “REFORMED”! Now Hanoi Jane has a DVD for sale ………

  144. acamos
    October 15, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    When you can’t think for yourself, have never had to follow an argument to it’s logical conclusion, do not have to be responsible for the stupidity of your position, and are completely ignorant of history, economics, and political philosophy, someone needs to feed you talking points. William Ayers and Saul Alinsky should be proud. Timothy Leary would have been a better place to start.

  145. texaspsue
    October 16, 2008 at 12:04 am

    God bless you, Liberals Demise. Thank you for your service to our Country!

    We will never FORGET!

  146. Liberals Demise
    October 16, 2008 at 12:12 am

    “BRAVE SOLDiERS………..GUTLESS POLITICANS!!!”
    TO all True Americans………You ARE Welcome!!
    Humbly yours
    A Marine………SEMPER FI

  147. idrt
    October 16, 2008 at 12:37 am

    This is hilarious .. go to Google and type in “senator government” – see who’s site comes up in the 10th position ..on the healthcare page no less! Google really has a sophisticated search algorithm! :-)

  148. societyis2blame
    October 16, 2008 at 1:38 am

    Acamos, etc.. Feel your pain – why is it that the people I sat with in a bar watching this debate can fire off perfectly common-sensical and “sound bite/slogan worthy” spontaneous responses to these allegedly hairy and complex questions without all the self-doubt, navel-gazing and tendentiousness of a poltical candidate ? Call the man a liar already, John. Defend your running mate without tacitly conceding to your opponent’s smears. The way in which this uber-lightweight junior legislator has put the wood to McCain and Hillary!!! is simply nonsensical. Hil’s campaign seemingly forgot what proportional representation means, and McCain didn’t seem to take the campaign seriously until tonight’s debate. If I’m dreaming, someone wake me up.

  149. aze_216
    October 16, 2008 at 3:56 am

    What struck me was obama’s calculated lack of respect for McCain. He called him senator, then the familiar “John”. I wish McCain would have called him Barry. I had to stop watching after a little while .. obama’s smirking and condescending smarminess was wayyy too much to put up with. He’s definitely learned the “trick” (from his .. or should I say Ayers’ ) book).

    I did catch obama answering a question about whether or not Sarah Palin was qualified to be prez. did McCain remind obama that even Biden thought he wasn’t qualified for the job? … twice?!

  150. artboyusa
    October 16, 2008 at 8:57 am

    BillK – Mrs Artboy made the same point you did. McCain doesn’t act like he WANTS it. The best thing he said was when he misspoke -”Senator Government” – and the rest was the usual Bill Buckner fumbles and passivity. By Allah’s beard, I’d have shredded Obama if I’d been on that stage with him – any of us could – “you say you had few dealings with Mr Ayers, Senator, but I ask why you had any dealings with him at all? I wouldn’t shake that man’s hand, I wouldn’t sit in a room with him, I wouldn’t have anything to do with him at all, nor would most Americans – so why did you? Tell us why, Senator, this man and his actions were not obnoxious to you and why you felt that he was a fit person for you to associate with in any capacity or to any degree?” BANG – election won! But that’s not the McCain way! For him, win/lose makes no real diff. If he loses, hey, so what? He’s still a senator, he’s still a millionnaire, he still owns seven houses and he’s still married to a beer heiress. We’re the ones who will have to live the Obama nightmare, not him.

  151. BillK
    October 16, 2008 at 9:04 am

    Seriously, with a two minute explanation of the facts even a Democrat could come up with the observation that if 9/11 had occurred when you were eight years old, why would that mean it’s OK to have Bin Laden in your living room?

    Perhaps that’s why at least Sarah’s fired up – she knows Obama will make her life difficult, where McCain will just go back to the Senate and retire on his Senatorial pension without all those pesky meetings that would be required were he President.

  152. torrentami
    October 16, 2008 at 9:58 am

    bpjam,
    I’m guessing that the reason the diatribe by michelle obama was not brought up was because it never happened. the article is 100% fake.

    http://corner.nationalreview.c.....NhYjJkZDI=

    let’s try to stay to the facts here so that our opinions cannot be undercut.

  153. 1sttofight
    October 16, 2008 at 10:08 am

    torrentami

    Fake, but Accurate.

  154. torrentami
    October 16, 2008 at 10:28 am

    1sttofight,
    that’s exactly the point. there’s more than enough real material to draw from, we shouldn’t need to rely fake stories to make our points.

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