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The Hive – Please Talk Among Yourselves

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This article was posted by Steve on Saturday, September 17th, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

11 Responses to “The Hive – Please Talk Among Yourselves”

  1. philtheduck says:

    I am very concerned about Voter Fraud in the next Presidential election

    • Melly says:

      Yep, votes will be bought – the Chicago way. Why do you think Barry wants his entire bill passed. God knows where the money will go. For instance: “An affiliate of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) received another $300,000 in taxpayer funding in early August, The Daily Caller has learned.

      President Barack Obama’s Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) awarded the $300,000 grant to the post-ACORN ally: The Affordable Housing Centers of America (AHCOA). The Obama administration awarded the money despite a 2010 law saying no taxpayer funds could be issued to ACORN “or any of its affiliates, subsidiaries, or allied organizations.”

      AHCOA was previously named “Acorn Housing Corporation,” a group that did a lot of business with ACORN. Acorn Housing changed its name to AHCOA in late 2009.

      Until the end of August, AHCOA’s website boasted that it was “formerly Acorn Housing Corporation.” The organization has since removed that bit of history.” http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/16/report-acorn-affiliated-group-gets-300000-more-in-taxpayer-money/

      At the end of the day, we are dealing with a Chicago thug steeped in Socialism.

    • yadayada says:

      any republican congressmen willing to point that out on national television? pointing out corruption is the biggest mallet our side should be using to defeat the libs.

      how hard is it for someone who works in the House appropriations Committee to show where big piles of stimulus money went?

      if that isn’t a BIG issue proclaimed loudly by at least one (R) pres. candidate in the next couple of days, it shows that the repubs are either complicit or guilty of same practice. if either is so (and every day it increasingly appears to be) I give up on all the rat bastards.

      look what a wuss Boner has been for years. he’s either absolutely spineless, totally incompetent, or equally corrupt, trying to protect the facilitating campaign finance structure which uses payoffs to cronies in return for donations or cushy post-public office appointments. I see no other reasonable choice of facets to explain how ineffective he has been as senior party leader. seniority is not the MQ for leadership position.

      just start buying a big pile of freeze dried food and fortifying the homestead.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      It is my contention that elected officials are either predisposed to a certain condition or learn it after a period of time, which varies. That condition is the fact that they get comfy in their cushy jobs in DC, worry more about their own personal social agenda and “optics” than actually engaging in the necessarily brutal activity of governance. That means looking out for the voters’ wishes 24/7/365.

      Thus, it naturally follows that no one is looking for corruption in this administration, most likely for any number of reasons with one near the top being that they stand to gain nothing from it personally. Plus, they sincerely doubt that if they did, they would have any backing and support from the heavy-hitters (social notables) in their own party.

      If there’s one thing I’ve witnessed over and over again as regards politics, whether local, state or national, the longer one is in it, the more detached the politician becomes. I’m not sure if this is self-inflicted or is a natural feature of the job. One has to imagine how those people who want to be around the politician refuse to make themselves scarce and those who might like to engage the politician on an issue but cannot get through the wall of people just give up. Truly, it is annoying to try to get your elected official’s ear. So much so that most Americans say “fuggit, I’m gonna go do something else” and which, of course, perpetuates the notion that politicians don’t really care about their constituents desires and wishes. Even if they do, they become so separated from the citizens due to the “formal” ways of setting up communications. Writing your congressman is probably the most useless thing because they have on staff some number of functionaries, interns, what-have-you to process the mail and they probably don’t even see a letter from a voter unless they can use it as agit-prop for election time.

      Like it or not, we are a nation of performers, put-ons and show-people. It’s not just our politics but everything. Perhaps brought on by the constant advertising, in-your-face plugs from star athletes telling us which sneakers to buy, or which energy drink is best….but it’s not the only reason.

      Although I’m not immune to the powers of the visual impact statement; For example if I see a gorgeous Ferrari, I am impressed. But there’s a difference between me and most. I’m impressed by the car, I could give a flip about the driver/owner. Same with anything of great cost or value. On the other hand, I am far more impressed when a person of great intellect and wisdom says or does something notable, or even the story of a GI who exhibited unflinching bravery, or, even just did his job well as a soldier.

      But our society has a couple of problems. 1) It tends to want to distill everything down to an easily-understood abbreviation of the real issue and 2) It lacks the reasonable skills to step back and properly assess, well, anything.

      As a whole, that is; Your actual mileage may vary. Individuals also largely like to claim how “unique” they are but I always use this joke: A kid with tatoos and piercings all over his visible body was giving a man a hard time. The man finally said, “And look at you, all those tattoos and piercings…I mean, what are you trying to prove?” To which the kid replies, “I’m expressing my uniqueness, my being different from all the rest.” The man looked at the kid’s friends, noting they all had similar tattoos and piercings and said, “Yeah, you’re unique alright; I see that your friends are all ‘unique’ in the same way that you are…not a shred if independent thought among you.”

      In other words, the harder one tries to be unique, the less likely it is that people will view them as such. I have met some truly unique people and they were of no mind to broadcast their condition, simply because their uniqueness made them that way.

      But elected officials all seem to suffer from varying degrees of narcissism. They all seem to need the approval of whichever group is important to them. But when they are surrounded by staff and constant attention hounds, they can never hear nor see the people who put them in office and it rarely occurs to them that such a thing has happened. Their “daily planners”, filled out by their personal secretary (ie, ball-washer) is filled with engagements, social activities, time at the desk, meetings, phone calls to make/receive, other appointments, etc. Which leads me to my next phenomenon of the post-modern era:

      The social calendar. It even affects the middle-class homemaker/soccer mom. If I hear someone tell me they are “so busy” that they can’t do X, then I think I’ll tell them that they’re living their life wrong. By cramming so much crap into one’s day, well, I simply look at it mostly as a mental disorder. Then, there’s that always-expected comment, “I hate to sit still; I need to be busy.” Which tells me they don’t know how to actually plan their day. Sure, some things need to be written down and put behind a magnet on the fridge but most of the time, if you have so much crap going on that you actually forget to pick up Johnny at the soccer field, then you’re definitely doing something wrong. My uptake? Day-planners are a receptacle for jotting down predominantly useless crap that you really don’t need to do anyway. Which leads me to this:

      Deciding what’s important. If you’re one of those people who think “everything’s important” then you’ve already lost. If picking up your mother’s dry-cleaning is as important as replacing the bald tires on your Soccer-mom van, then you’re up against unbelievable odds. By that, I mean you’re up against yourself. And, you’re on the fast track to a heart attack. But I simply say all this because I have noticed that Americans have been having a great deal of trouble figuring out what is really important and what is not. And they largely seem to be national socialists.

  2. Mithrandir says:

    Things that make you go hmmm…..

    ~Lazy welfare recipients, “can’t find a job” + illegal aliens doing jobs they are not supposed to be doing…..hmmm

    ~Dept. of Education doesn’t teach 1 child, Dept. of Energy doesn’t make us less dependent on foreign oil + the post office is perpetually 3-4 billion in debt……hmmm

    ~We have flash mobs attacking and beating people in malls and on streets + we have citizens that are unarmed….hmm.

    ~There are tons of natural disasters that need clean-up workers + we have 1,000,000 prisoners sitting around doing nothing…..hmm

    ~We have a polluted planet, + on YouTube everyday people are making power using water, magnets, sun reflectors that give power forever!……hmmm

    ~Every day 100,000 children go hungry, + we have a healthy supply of homeless people…..hmm

    ~In recent news, black activists are demanding more money from our gov’t + we have 1000s of extremely rich black athletes……hmm

    ~We have 1000s of Arabs mobbing our streets, bending down to pray 7 times a day, + we have a shortage of bike racks….hmmm

  3. sticks says:

    Why is Obama pushing so hard to get more loans to “green” companies? It can’t be because they produce so many jobs. Getting reelected, the Chicago way. By the way, what do you all think of the “Days of Rage” being planed for Wall Street? will they draw a lot of union thugs, commies, anarchists, and facists? will it become a violent confrontation with police (which the planners want) or will it just be a “hundred man march?” It will be telling either way.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      Give away 2 Big Screen TV’s and you’ll have all the “RAGE” you’ll need for the violence to start.

  4. Mithrandir says:

    Couple thoughts…..

    SIMPLE MAJORITY–Republicans SHOULD PASS LAWS based on a simple majority. Forget about 60 filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. They passed ObamaCare right down our throats with pay-offs and simple majority.
    Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704858404576134161926945334.html

    The country is 50/50, and if Republicans wait for a major majority to get anything done, they will be waiting a LONG TIME. Simply pass every bill, law, and repeal with a simple majority of votes. Yes….the Democrats will easily do the same things once they are in power again, but Americans will just have to live under communism for an election cycle until the vote in Republicans, it’s the same way it is now, except it will just happen at a faster rate this way.

    2012 will most likely usher in another chance at a majority in the House, Senate, and Executive, and Republicans should repeal Obamacare with simple majority, the country can’t wait any longer to fix this disaster. –However, Republicans will no doubt elect Mitt RINOmny as President who will feel sorry for the liberals, compromise ourselves right out of power again in 2014.

    So, Democrats want to start showing up at bridges eh? Republicans can do that too. How about….

    1. While in Ohio, why not stop at the Robert C. Byrd Bridge? Boehner can reminisce about Civil Rights, and how Democrats rewarded a KKK recruiter and Grand Keagle with 6 Years in the House and 51 years in the Senate.

    2. Dike Bridge, where we can discuss Democrat’s dedication to “Women’s Rights” and how Ted Kennedy didn’t spend 47 years in prison for killing his mistress, but 47 years in the Senate.–and all he got was a ticket for leaving the scene of an accident.

    –I would CONTINUOUSLY hang these albatrosses around their necks for all eternity. But who am I to try to win elections for them? Best to wait for Democrats to fumble the ball or the public to just get tired of them through attrition.

  5. Melly says:

    My gripe of the day – we have some anarchists protesting in lower Manhattan -specifically Wall Street area “Down with Capitalism” “Close Corporations.” Protesting the government and corporations they are and not one anti-Obama poster. They are your typical Abercrombie & Fitch dressed young people crying for free education and healthcare and comparing themselves to the uprisers in the middle east. This really boils my blood. There are hundreds of them – contributing nothing to society. Were they to march uptown today,they can participate in a breast cancer walk and make a difference or en masse they could take a train up to Goshen NY and help find a 7 year old severly autistic child who went missing this morning. This cult of personalty sickens me. These snot noses should live a month in the middle east and then come back here and try to protest again.

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