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‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves

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This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Friday, August 3rd, 2012. Comments are currently closed.

5 Responses to “‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves”

  1. Anonymoose

    The Chik-Fil-A story continues. The support day on Wednesday was a huge success with people lining out the door; I know, I saw them. But the media did an almost total black out; it showed up mainly in local newspapers. By contrast the “Kiss Off” of the gay rights supporters on Friday got almost no coverage because it was a such a flop. I’m wondering if this isn’t the turning point in the whole “debate” as it reaches a critical mass and the ordinary straight people feel they’ve had enough.

    Also this week Gore Vidal died. It’s relevant to me because his book “The City and The Pillar,” which was one of those required readings in college, was my turning point from being an “open minded” brainwashed liberal to a more cynical and realistic view of the world.

    To sum the story up an openly gay man persuades a straight friend to have sex with him, then they go their separate ways. The gay man “loves” the straight one and is mortified when he gets married. Most of the book is his endless affairs, where seemingly every man is willing to sleep with him, even the straight ones.

    At the end he reunites with his friend, who doesn’t want to sleep with him again and is mortified at being though of as gay. In the original ending he overpowers and kills his friend, in the revised more controversial ending published several years later, he rapes him.

    Aside from wondering what is the moral compass on that story, it’s “intellectual” only because it went so much against the cultural mores of the time and therefore made it valued to the literary elite. But I saw it symbolized the whole angst the gays have against the world. The “it’s not fair” attitude that most people are straight and aren’t interested in or don’t even think about the things they dwell on.

    And that’s why gay “marriage” is just another turn in the wheel. For something so “normal and natural” most languages don’t even have pronouns for describing a gay couple like we do for straights: Husband/Wife, boyfriend/girlfriend, etc. No matter what laws are passed, or how much they get in people’s faces they won’t be happy as they will never get what they truly want, to bend reality so they can be the same as straight people.

    • Rusty Shackleford

      Years ago, I had a “conversation” with one such person at work who was annoyingly gay. He would announce every gay event as if it was the coming of another planet to collide with earth. In the small lunchroom one day, I happened upon the misfortune to be in the same room as this guy. But the conversation ended with me saying:

      “You can jump up and down and vibrate all you want about it but in the end, I’ll still be straight and you’ll still be gay, living in your world of self-hatred that you cannot seem to change. I am not going to accept you as normal and you are going to hate me for it forever. Thus, you will continue to fight me about something which I really don’t care and try to make my life as equal a living hell as your own. But I’ll go home to my wife and family and enjoy my normal day-to-day activities and not worry about how I must impress upon the world how straight I am so that I can somehow be comfortable in my own skin. You, on the other hand have become obsessed with being accepted. But you don’t even accept yourself as you are, shown by the utter noise you make about it. Most people who are self-confident and happy with their lives don’t feel the need to coerce others or annoy others to see what they’re missing, or to chastise others for not agreeing with them. You, mister, are a loser. Not because you’re gay but because you hate yourself for it.”

  2. canary

    Warning: Many of you may have noticed the last few days news headlines, new medical treatement
    under headlines New Skin Spray for wounds that do not heal. I’m amazed at the ones who don’t even mention what’s in it, or call it supersonic spray (just an example) without telling the truth of what it is, as I am familiar with patients getting the treatment.

    The skin cells are from embroys.

    This even though adult skin cells work just as well and there is plenty of skin donors out there.

    Now we can take Michael J Fox who jokes on News that he is for embroy stem cells to treat his disease, because why would he want stem cells from cranky old people. ha ha ha.

    When as determined under Bush, adult skins were just as effective.

    And wouldn’t adult skin and adult brain stem cells be better as they are from quote ‘human beings’
    compared to a glob that is aborted. Why use something not real as pro-abortionists say, than something mature?

    Also, the rationing of wound treatment which makes these treatments ineffective, such as 100 dollars for a jar of maggots wrapped for 48 hours costing 100 dollars is to be several treatments. Yet, now one is being allowed.

    This new skin cell treatment does aid the pain, as it’s forms a molded band-aid. It is meant to be several treatments as the skin cells grow, and to make skin grafts unnecessary. At this time, only one spray is being given, and skin grafts are being done.

    Not to judge anyone, but I saw two articles different that left this out this weekend.

  3. canary

    The enormous debt and loss of jobs under Obama. Obama donating a fortune aid and jobs to China.

    The U.S. Economy By The Numbers: 70 Facts That Barack Obama Does Not Want You To See
    It is a list of 70 numbers that show why we are headed for a national economic nightmare. So why does the title of the article single out Barack Obama? Well, it is because right now he is the biggest cheerleader for the economy. ..

    The following are 70 facts that Barack Obama does not want you to see….

    $3.59 – When Barack Obama entered the White House, the average price of a gallon of gasoline was $1.85. Today, it is $3.59.

    22 – It is hard to believe, but today the poverty rate for children living in the United States is a whopping 22 percent.

    23 – According to U.S. Representative Betty Sutton, an average of 23 manufacturing facilities permanently shut down in the United States every single day during 2010.

    30 – Back in 2007, about 10 percent of all unemployed Americans had been out of work for 52 weeks or longer. Today, that number is above 30 percent.

    32 – The amount of money that the federal government gives directly to Americans has increased by 32 percent since Barack Obama entered the White House.

    40 – The official U.S. unemployment rate has been above 8 percent for 40 months in a row.

    48 – Shockingly, at this point 48 percent of all Americans are either considered to be “low income” or are living in poverty.

    53 – Last year, an astounding 53 percent of all U.S. college graduates under the age of 25 were either unemployed or underemployed.

    63 – One recent survey found that 63 percent of all Americans believe that the U.S. economic model is broken.

    85 – 85 percent of all artificial Christmas trees are made in China.

    93 – The United States now ranks 93rd in the world in income inequality.

    95 – The middle class continues to shrink – 95 percent of the jobs lost during the last recession were middle class jobs.

    107 – Each year, the average American must work 107 days just to make enough money to pay local, state and federal taxes.

    $500 – In some areas of Detroit, Michigan you can buy a three bedroom home for just $500.

    627 – In 2010, China produced 627 million metric tons of steel. The United States only produced 80 million metric tons of steel.

    900 – Auto parts exports from China to the United States have increased by more than 900 percent since the year 2000.

    $4155 – The average American household spent a staggering $4,155 on gasoline during 2011.

    $6000 – If you can believe it, the median price of a home in Detroit is now just $6000.

    49,000 – In 2011, our trade deficit with China was more than 49,000 times larger than it was back in 1985.

    56,000 – The United States has lost more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities since 2001.

    $175,587 – The Obama administration spent $175,587 to find out if cocaine causes Japanese quail to engage in sexually risky behavior.

    $328,404 – Over the next 75 years, Medicare is facing unfunded liabilities of more than 38 trillion dollars. That comes to $328,404 for each and every household in the United States.

    $361,330 – This is what the average banker in New York City made in 2010.

    440,00 – If the federal government began right at this moment to repay the U.S. national debt at a rate of one dollar per second, it would take over 440,000 years to totally pay it off.

    500,000 – According to the Economic Policy Institute, America is losing half a million jobs to China every single year.

    2,000,000 – Family farms are being systematically wiped out of existence in the United States. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the number of farms in the United States has fallen from about 6.8 million in 1935 to only about 2 million today.

    $2,000,000 – At this point, the U.S. national debt is rising by more than 2 million dollars every single minute.

    2,600,000 – In 2010, 2.6 million more Americans fell into poverty. That was the largest increase that we have seen since the U.S. government began keeping statistics on this back in 1959.

    5,400,000 – When Barack Obama first took office there were 2.7 million long-term unemployed Americans. Today there are twice as many.

    16,000,000 – It is being projected that Obamacare will add 16 million more Americans to the Medicaid rolls.

    $20,000,000 – The amount of money the U.S. government was spending to create a version of Sesame Street for children in Pakistan.

    25,000,000 – Today, approximately 25 million American adults are living with their parents.

    40,000,000 – According to Professor Alan Blinder of Princeton University, 40 million more U.S. jobs could be sent offshore over the next two decades if current trends continue.

    88,000,000 – Today there are more than 88 million working age Americans that are not employed and that are not looking for employment. That is an all-time record high.

    100,000,000 – Overall, there are more than 100 million working age Americans that do not currently have jobs.

    $150,000,000 – This is approximately the amount of money that the Obama administration and the U.S. Congress are stealing from future generations of Americans every single hour.

    295,500,000,000 – Our trade deficit with China in 2011 was $295.5 billion. That was the largest trade deficit that one country has had with another country in the history of the planet.

    $454,000,000,000 – During fiscal 2011, the U.S. government spent over 454 billion dollars just on interest on the national debt.

    $1,000,000,000,000 – The total amount of student loan debt in the United States recently surpassed the one trillion dollar mark.

    $1,170,000,000,000 – China now holds approximately 1.17 trillion dollars of U.S. government debt. Yet the U.S. government continues to send them millions of dollars in foreign aid every year.

    $5,000,000,000,000 – The U.S. national debt has risen by more than 5 trillion dollars since the day that Barack Obama first took office. In a little more than 3 years Obama has added more to the national debt than the first 41 presidents combined.

    $5,000,000,000,000 – What the real U.S. budget deficit in 2011 would have been if the federal government had used generally accepted accounting principles.

    $11,440,000,000,000 – The total amount of consumer debt in the United States.

    $15,734,596,578,458.59 – The U.S. national debt as of June 7, 2012.

    $200,000,000,000,000 – Today, the 9 largest banks in the United States have a total of more than 200 trillion dollars of exposure to derivatives. When the derivatives market completely collapses there won’t be enough money in the entire world to fix it.

    (more)
    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.....you-to-see
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    More waste Obama doesn’t want you to know.

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.....your-money

    Obama administration paid fortune to find out if cocaine causes Japanese quail to engage in in sexually risky behavior. (Obama probably volunteered for this one)
    (Where is PETA!)

    Obama administration spent fortune to find out why chimps throw poop. Guess his pet monkey threw poop at him in Indonesia. (Why not just ask PETA!)

    And gave Pakistan a fortune to have their own version of sesame street!!!!!

    (Was this so Michelle could be on Sesame Street?)

  4. canary

    Obama and Romney agree Gay Boy Scout leaders good. And we gather Romney is for gay marriage.

    http://news.yahoo.com/presiden.....itics.html


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