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‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves

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This article was posted by Steve on Friday, December 21st, 2012. Comments are currently closed.

20 Responses to “‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves”

  1. canary says:

    Fell over FOX asking for help from Obama administration and Hillary to aid a young former decorated U.S. Navy Seal who is being illegally held chained to a cot in Mexico since August.

    Break for commercial “I’ve Got your Six” campaign started by Michelle and bunch of rich Hollywood liberal celebrities showing their gold diamond 6 trinkets and where to order them.

    Why can’t Eva Longoria who has done so much charity work for Mexico and their people make bail him out.

    While Hillary is busy sick at home giving 20 F-16 Fighter planes to the Islmaic extremist Egyptian government,

    why can’t Bill Clinton fly to Mexico and pick this disabled young decorated U.S. Hero whose not allowed to shave, from jail, after he did so for a couple of Al Gore working Asian girl news reporters who were allowed to wear make-up imprisoned in N Korea.

    And how much up to 85% will Michelle Obama keep to run her non-profit org to help troops since her husband isn’t doing enough.


    • canary says:

      We know Michelle Obama has never visited the troops overseas; only at the White House and Hawaii gym wearing a white wedding dress.

      Alec Baldwin dressed in casual brown zip up parker visited the Occupiers of Wall Street protestors. What’s in your wallet?

    • captstubby says:

      First Ladies Who Put Our Troops First

      Recently, First Lady Michelle Obama and Dr. Jill Biden announced a national initiative called “Joining Forces” to help shine a light on the needs of military families.

      “Like their loved ones, military families are proud to serve. But that doesn’t mean it’s easy,” Mrs. Obama said in an e-mail message to the American Legion Auxiliary in April. “Indeed, many Americans may not realize how difficult it can be to have a parent or spouse deployed overseas.”

      Since the birth of our nation, our U. S. military and veterans have been and remain the cornerstone to the American Way and our heritage of freedom. Many other First Ladies throughout history have also championed the issues important to our military and veterans.

      Martha Washington 1789-1797

      Our first President’s wife was a military wife, as have been many of our First Ladies. George Washington was appointed General of the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War. Prior to becoming First Lady, Mrs. Washington publicly supported an effort to enlist colonial women as volunteers in service to the Continental Army. This earned her the respect of the soldiers, who dubbed her “Lady Washington,” and she remained beloved by Revolutionary War veterans when her husband was named President of our new nation. She provided personal financial support to veterans and interceded on the behalf of veterans in need.

      Mary Todd Lincoln 1861-1865

      The wife of President Abraham Lincoln, although beset by multiple physical and emotional ailments and family tragedies, Mary Todd Lincoln volunteered as a nurse in Union hospitals during the Civil War and toured Union Army camps and reviewed troops with the President. She publicly supported Sanitary Commission fairs which raised private donations to supplement government funding for supplies that soldiers needed.

      Lucy Hayes 1877-1881

      The wife of Rutherford B. Hayes, our 19th President, was affectionately called “Mother Lucy” and “Mother of the Regiment” by the men of the 23rd Ohio Volunteer Infantry who served under her husband during the Civil War. She nursed their wounds and comforted the dying. She also took in two wounded Union soldiers. While in the White House, she helped many Civil War veterans with jobs on the White House staff and often visited disabled veterans being treated at the National Soldiers’ Home.

      Helen Taft 1909-1913

      The wife of William Howard Taft and the first First Lady to ride in the Inaugural Parade with her husband, she is noted publicly for bringing the iconic cherry blossoms to Washington, D.C. However, she was also a politically trailblazing First Lady who, in contrast to the social codes of the times, created broader opportunities for different people to attend White House events. Instead of strictly society figures, she invited all ranks of the military stationed in the area. She also lobbied members of Congress to support pensions for Confederate soldiers’ widows.

      Edith Wilson 1915-1921

      President Woodrow Wilson’s second wife (his first wife, Ellen, died during his first term in office) is sometimes called “the secret president” for running the government when the 28th President was debilitated by a stroke during his second term. Publicly, she led by example by not using meat, wheat, or gasoline on certain days at the White House to encourage conservation as the nation entered World War I. She sold wool sheared from sheep that grazed on the White House lawn to help fund the war and volunteered at the Red Cross canteen serving soldiers at Washington’s Union Station.

      Florence Harding 1921-1923

      The wife of Warren G. Harding, our 29th president, showed great personal interest and compassion for wounded World War I veterans. She visited hospital wards regularly, calling the men at Walter Reed Hospital’s Red Cross Convalescent Home “my boys.” She used her influence with government officials to resolve disputed cases involving veterans’ benefits and hosted garden parties for thousands of disabled men from area hospitals and care centers. She lent her support to a “Lest We Forget” drive to collect donations of clothing, books, records, and other items for hospitalized veterans and led A national effort to create a monument to the World War soldiers on the National Mall. Mrs. Harding also cared about the conditions and pay for nurses and hospital workers serving veterans, and urged her husband to issue an executive order which gave veterans special consideration when applying for postmasterships. President Harding, influenced by his wife’s commitment to veterans, pushed for the establishment of a Bureau of Veterans Affairs (later to become the Department of Veterans Affairs) to address the needs of servicemembers.

      Lou Hoover 1929-1933

      The well-educated wife of President Herbert Hoover was active in the war effort prior to his presidency and worked in partnership with her husband to raise funds and send food from America to warravaged Europe. While in the White House in the summer of 1932, impoverished World War I veterans affected by the Great Depression came to Washington, D.C., to lobby Congress to issue their guaranteed financial bonuses earlier than scheduled, setting up makeshift “Bonus Army” encampments. The First Lady made sure, through anonymous donations, that the mass encamped veterans had blankets, sandwiches, and coffee.

      Eleanor Roosevelt 1933-1945

      Married to the only President elected to more than two terms, Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s wife became an important symbol during World War II. Four of her sons were active-duty servicemen, and she Was well regarded as a military mother and friend of the

      G. I. She visited the wounded in hospital wards during her overseas trips, joining the troops for meals in mess halls. She visited African-American troops in segregated units and reported back to the president on their unmet needs. To show the bravery and competence of African-American servicemembers, she flew in a plane with a black pilot. She rewrote the standard letters sent by the president to the families of those killed in action. Serving as the honorary vice chair of the Red Cross, she publicly led blood donation and fundraising drives during the war. She was an early supporter of women in the military and of the Women’s Air Service Pilot program. Mrs. Roosevelt attempted to make life at the White House mirror life on the home Front during the war, adopting the food and gas rationing system, planting a Victory Garden on the South Lawn, and participating in air raid drills.

      Bess Truman 1945-1953

      In stark contrast to her predecessor as well as to her outspoken husband, Bess Truman, wife of President Harry S. Truman, maintained a low profile, did not hold news conferences, and did not take a public role on domestic issues of her day. But when America entered the Korean Conflict in 1950, she sponsored Red Cross outreach and other voluntary efforts to benefit servicemembers. She hosted garden parties for local servicemen at Blair-Lee House, the presidential residence while the White House was undergoing renovation.

      Mamie Eisenhower 1953-1961

      The wife of five-star Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower who became our 34th President, Mamie Eisenhower knew firsthand the difficulties of being a military wife. Because of her friendships with the wives of retired servicemembers, Mrs. Eisenhower learned of the financial difficulties some endured when they became widowed and received only minimal government benefits. She exercised her influence on military housing, pensions, and other military needs. She championed raising funds to build Army Distaff Hall, an affordable retirement and nursing home for Army widows which opened in 1962 in Washington, D.C. Today “Knollwood” is still the only military retirement, fullservice continuing care community in our nation’s capital.

      Pat Nixon 1969-1974

      The wife of both a Vice President and our 37th President, Pat Nixon traveled widely with her husband during his presidency. Joining the President in his 1969 trip to South Vietnam, she became the first First Lady to visit a combat zone, flying just within 18 miles of Saigon in an open helicopter accompanied by Secret Service agents draped with bandoleers.

      Betty Ford 1974-1977

      Though she was noted for her outspoken opinions on social issues and her public candor about her battle with breast cancer, the wife of President Gerald Ford was also front and center in recognizing the many issues associated with the aftermath of America’s withdrawal from Vietnam. Betty Ford was especially concerned about children and helped raise funds for children’s charities, including No Greater Love, which aided the children of United States military MIAs and POWs. With Betty Ford’s recent passing, the country lost a pioneer, and the ALA lost a revered 57-year member who helped many veterans afflicted with additions.

      Barbara Bush 1989-1993

      The wife of our 41st President, George H.W. Bush, was a strong supporter of our troops during the first Gulf War. Barbara Bush, a longtime member of the American Legion Auxiliary, visited many military bases during the Gulf War and accompanied the President on a Thanksgiving visit with the troops in Saudi Arabia. On Valentine’s Day 1991, as part of National Veterans Hospitals Week, Barbara Bush visited the Roudebush VA Medical Center in Indianapolis, arriving on a commercial flight to demonstrate domestic air safety during the Gulf War. While visiting Grissom Air Force Base, she became aware of the number of deployed servicemembers’ families on food stamps and became a relentless champion of increasing the pay and benefits of our U.S. military.

      Hillary Rodham Clinton 1993-2001

      The wife of our 42nd President William J. Clinton, Hillary Clinton, herself an attorney, took an interest in the mysterious illnesses suffered by veterans who fought in the Gulf War and Vietnam. As First Lady, she advocated for expanded federal healthcare for veterans. The first First Lady to be elected to Congress, serving as a United States Senator from New York, she supported increased veterans’ benefits. As the current United States Secretary of State, Secretary Clinton has renewed her focus on the issue of the possible toxic side effects of exposure to Agent Orange.

      Laura Bush 2001-2009

      Less than nine months into the presidency of our 43nd President George W. Bush, our nation suffered its worst attacks ever on U. S. soil on Sept. 11, 2001. First Lady Laura Bush’s role changed dramatically. She spoke often on techniques to comfort traumatized children, frequently visited wounded troops, and urged support for military families. In November 2001, she became the first First Lady to give the President’s weekly radio address, speaking out against the Taliban’s oppression of women and children. She traveled to Afghanistan three times, visiting deployed troops and meeting with Afghani women. She championed “Troops to Teachers,” advocating new veterans consider transition from the military to becoming school teachers. She continues to greet returning troops.

      First Ladies and the American Legion Auxiliary

      In addition to supporting our military families, many First Ladies also have enjoyed a special relationship with the American Legion Auxiliary. Here are just a few fun facts regarding our First Ladies:

      • The ALA presented Florence Harding with an embossed resolution commending her for her work on behalf of veterans.

      • Past National President Dorothy Pearl (1946-1947), presented Bess Truman with a diamond-set membership pin and reported, “Mrs. Truman told me with a bit of pride in her voice that when she is home in Independence, Missouri, as a member she helps in many projects sponsored by her Auxiliary unit.”

      • Mamie Eisenhower spoke at the Auxiliary’s 1952 National Convention and shared that she was an Auxiliary member from Kansas. She also received a diamond-set membership pin after becoming First Lady.

      • Betty Ford was a 57-year continuous member of Unit 258 in Michigan.

      • Barbara Bush is an ALA Honorary Life Member.

      • Hillary Clinton is a past ALA member.

      • Laura Bush is a current member of the Dept. of Texas.

      American Legion Auxiliary — Volume 3 August 2011

    • GetBackJack says:

      How did Michelle Obama get to be in charge of what American schoolchildren eat at school? Seriously. I cannot find an answer to this one.

    • canary says:

      Capstubby, excellent. It was through some Revolutionary War Right program by women or mothers that list my ancestors who escaped peasant slavery from Germany and 6 months of travel to America. They agreed with Patrick Henry on the chains of slavery.

      The DAV gave both Obama and Romney questions to answer. One was what they’d do about the worsening backlog, and Obama who I guess didn’t get the message wrote he’d fixed it.

      What was interesting on one of Romney answer was to let them see go to private doctors. I called the DVA for a friend and it was a 39 minute wait, but the auto call back was nice instead of holding the phone to your ear.

    • canary says:

      GetBackJack, Congress has been passing all these bills like that big whatever Enhancement Act and the Healthy, Hunger-Free Act of 2010. Remember schools have to provide free dinners in impoverished areas. They are written to give the Dept of Agriculture, Dept of Education, the EPA, and even the Dept of Defense to constantly regulate. And they strong arm grocery store chains.

      It’s her Move Forward program that she told the country would be her priority. That’s where the White House plantation of unpaid children started the peas and lettuce, which than grew into very expensive and rare spices, such as one of the spices our U.S. Soldiers are helping Afghanistan to grow, since the green beans didn’t pan out or bring in money.

      Then the White House plantation added bee hives to collect from all the very rare expensive spices to make honey for Obama’s fattening intoxicating beer recipe.

      That is hypocrisy.

      The EPA really does study the protests for areas where people found area to gather.

      There is a UN version of 15,000 pages of green regulations which is too create high density areas. Single family housing zoned areas will be rezoned for high rise public housing.

      Federal stimulus money is now being doled out for bicycle paths.

      Huckabee has been one Michelle’s biggest supporter after having her on his show where she said government at every level would regulate food so people and children would lose weight.

      I’d tell my son to bring home the fresh fruit he is forced to put on his tray, but when he told me they pick it from a basket I told him forget it. The school has dealt with this buy adding another more sugary fruit the students like. So, they get two fruits for lunch.

    • canary says:

      My son is not on free or reduced lunch and it’s so expensive, and this year he is taking his lunch the food is so bad.

  2. Anonymoose says:

    I’ve been thinking more about the incident in Newton. When Columbine happened I did all the soul searching about what gun owners could do about firearms to keep this from happening again–and realized this is what the liberals want.

    If you think about it their are only six types of harm caused when using a gun:

    1. Carelessness, caused by people not being safe, kids getting ahold of them, etc.

    2. Criminal action: drive by shootings, robberies, etc.

    3. Suicides, either directly or indirectly (“suicide by cop”). Suicides could either be by the terminally ill or people facing a temporary psychological or emotional issue.

    4. Workplace and romantic aggrievances, typically ending with a small number of victims who directly knew their killer.

    5. Political/terrorist killings (such as Anders Behring Breivik in Norway in 2011), done by people who are arguably rational but are motivated by a sense of grievance against society, and can either be mass killings or limited to a specific individual.

    6. Spree killings, whether done in one instance or over time (such as the DC sniper), by individuals who are almost always coming from a position of mental instability, don’t know their victims directly, and are motivated by a grievance that is against society but is irrational.

    Of these, none can be completely done away with as long as guns exist and someone has a problem with another person.

    1-2 can be controlled by training, traditional law enforcement, and all the mechanics we already have in place–provided the system works as it should.

    3-4 can be limited by a reform to the mental health system, as it’s usually people who began as rational but have found themselves in a dark place. #4 in particular is where most so-called “spree killings” come from that hit the news. These also are usually situations that are “where there’s smoke there’s fire,” that the problems were known beforehand. The question is balance, how free a society we can have without a police state that goes after anyone who may have had a bad day.

    5 is what scares politicians and is ultimately the most unpredictable. Someone who rationally decides upon a course of violence and is aware of the consequences simply can’t be predicted. They are willing to be imprisoned or executed for their actions; this happens in war, in political unrest, and during societal turmoil. They either obtain a weapon legally or by subterfuge or criminal action, all dependent on their objective. This is also the most rare of all killings, especially in developed countries. I would argue this can’t be prevented without creating a complete dictatorship.

    6. Lastly is the spree killer, the ones that hit the news and single handedly cause the legislative repercussions. The media pounces all over them as they are irrational, unpredictable, and make a good sound byte for the “crazed gun nut” even though they are almost never your traditional gun owner. They typical go out in a suicide or are killed by the police. Typically they use a weapon that was legally purchased and legal to own, either bought by them or stolen/obtained from a legal owner.

    There’s overlap; but ultimately type #6 is the one who causes the most problems for gun owners and society, the question is how to stop them. Honestly I would say it’s almost entirely a mental health issue first and a cultural one second. The media and politicians don’t even seem to want to address the mental health aspect–but honestly an irrational killer isn’t going to disappear if he doesn’t have access to a gun.

    Thoughts, opinions, recriminations?

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Comes down to personal responsibility. The personally responsible don’t do things like that unless they have had some sort of breakdown internally or a moment of passion overriding judgement.

      Such moments are rare but not unheard-of.

      It’s not guns though. A person with a passion and desire to hurt others…..will. Either through overt or covert actions. Bombs, poison, etc. In ancient Rome, poisoning people was fairly common, not just for the political elite. Street thugs, then as now, robbed, assaulted and killed people for trivial reasons.

      Knives were the weapons of choice then. But, a person’s apartment-building, largely constructed of wood, would be burned down to kill one occupant and the rest would just be victims of the one persons hatred.

      Not to say that the perpetrator would get away with it. Justice wasn’t so much organized for the commoners. You’d have to hire another thug to track down and get even with the killer(s).

      But history is replete with killings, both mass and otherwise.

      Lanza was the quintessential example of mood-medicating gone wrong and throws the use of such substances into serious question; Not the gun. Unstable people who should be watched aren’t and those who should be institutionalized also aren’t thanks to the ACLU.

      Just the same the event in Newtown cannot be undone and it’s almost impossible to predict when the next one will occur.

    • canary says:

      All of the above. The batman shooter had an apt full of homemade explosives from materials he mailed to the University. Remember that middle-eastern cult trying to take over that town in California by poisoning the town so they were to sick to vote?

      We have people here knowing what their doing and factors that are not an excuse, but they have “personally decided” to make them excuses to justify their shocking actions.

      Any movie premier in the middle of the night with a huge, rowdy, crowd like Aurora where the police know many of those attending had most likely partied all night up to the event should have been there. No baby or small child’s ears should have been exposed to all the noisy dramatic crashes and screams way past their bedtime.

      I’m just saying people need to address a new way of living in these times. Do more prevention, more police.

      It’s a shame that it took police 20-30 minutes to arrive at the school. There should be enough police in a close vicinity to all schools.

      This media has flip flopped on a lot of details and I’ve only paid attention to witnesses and what his classmates and acquaintances have observed or recall conversations.

      So, his autism, no matter if he was high functioning or the many common traits he is being said to be anti-social in a fearful way. The classic symptom of not able to bond.

      His mother and father were enormously well off and had the education, money, support systems that most people do not have with a challenged child.

      Here is a video of the home. Being on all that land in the country shows having guns would be normal for safety, to include a semi-weapon to protect oneself, whether it been in the wild west, depression, a national disaster, or a mob or gang who saw it as an inviting easy target.

      Video from Fox showing magnificent home.



      However, with the medical condition, from the time he was young, to include the strain of his being an adult and realizations of his problem, he should not have even known there were guns in the house, yet alone how to use them. And if the mother did mention her son was angry at her wanting to commit him, he had not spoken to her in 3 days she should have removed them from the house. He still would have found a way to kill her.

      The news keeps flip flopping as to the mother teaching at that school. Apparently, she had taught there for several years staying home with her teen son and did not need the money.
      Now they are saying she volunteered? The teachers who may have many answers are dead.

      There may have been a little moonlighting going on in the school. The shooter had specific targets. The first specific targets the mother, Principal, Psychiatrist, and Special Ed teacher whose students were also shot multiply times, by the monster.

      Perhaps, evaluations and signatures and all were being done at the school “on a young man” that needed to be placed in special home for the safety of himself and others “who did not attend school”. Perhaps, people thought she was volunteering seeing her at the school frequently before the tragedy.

      I think this teacher was interviewed a couple of times and another teacher mentioned 20-30 minutes til help arrived. There were lapses. 25 minutes is too long before law enforcement was able to get there. Surely, Connecticut children are worth some police officers and the teachers can have some of their union member dues go to paying for more police officers.

      RIFF JENKINS, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: How long — how long of a period of shooting do you think you heard?

      BURTON: Twenty minutes, twenty-five minutes? You know, it seemed forever.

      JENKINS: What did it sound like? You said it stopped for a moment?

      BURTON: It was eerily quiet. You know, you would hear nothing, and then you heard the pop, pop, pop, pop. I mean, it just — and it’s — you know, all I could think of was of my co-workers and my friends and children. I didn’t know.

      At one point, someone shook our door, but they didn’t say anything, so I don’t know who it was. I don’t believe the shooter was ever in our side of the building.

      Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2012/12/19/tales-heroism-sandy-hook-all-i-was-hearing-was-pop-pop-pop-pop-and-it-wasnt-stopping#ixzz2FrIZQgtK

      And doing an autopsy and studying the murderers brain by slicing for known ages of brain growth that are stunted with those with autism. Also, the studies wireless is increasing autism needs to be studied.

      And I don’t see his mother, a teacher, with so much medical and behavioral resources allowing her child to play games at such a rate.

      Children with all these growing ADD, OCD, ODD, should not be playing games. Only short periods so they don’t feel left out from other children. The games and texting are not good for their brains.

      And really it’s his medical history that needs to be treated and hair samples as he may have been on an SSRI for a time, or on a short-lived SSRI. Check the brain area for soaking from the meds.

      I think his dead mother needs an autopsy and studying too. It’s kind of stupid to take a rifle into a bar to show off, where people are drinking and show it off. Maybe she was on meds or drugs that made her lose common sense. It could not have been easy raising her son, plus they have a chance to check if for hereditary or slice her brain to see if she had undiagnosed autism.

      Like our leader say let’s not let a disaster go to waste.

      I would say no matter this young man was sane and evil. You can outlaw violent games.

      If you try and outlaw violent rap music you would get real backlash from the violent rappers who kill each other to be on top.

      And schools have not learned from Columbine, as the violent, sexual, horror, and assignments like plan your funeral if you should die. What do you want your obituary to say about you. What color balloons would you like released into the sky? They had a very angry teacher that warned the uppers those two boys were trouble.

      The schools have not learned from the Virginia Tech first shooter. His English teacher was so upset by his essay she wanted him evaluated.

      Now high schoolers are told to they can do so by themselves or a team and write a horror story. And they are worse than that ninja immigrant wrote.

      So, more security.

      And someone sent me testimony from a woman who lost bother her parents from Libby cafeteria shooting who wished she’d not left her gun in the car. That she’d rather be in jail for breaking the law than to have two dead parents. She mentioned something about a man in California that understandably got on his roof with an assault weapon do to a crowd. Perhaps it was the Rodney Kings riot that innocent people dragged from their cars and beat unconscious?

      So, while I think it’s important for good people to own assualt weapons in case of a natural disaster to hunt faster, I think in today’s world, they could save lives. Especially, when our leader encourages protests by unions, and encourages them in other countries, our children might copy cat.

      Shame on blaming U.S. Ambassador Stevens it was his own fault. Last night on Fox Senator Inhofe said the findings should be dismissed and this was a cover-up. Kind of scared for him. They played Hilliary’s snotty speech and Obama’s when the dead Americans arrived.
      I think perhaps she’s having plastic surgery.

      Are Ambassadors allowed to carry and be armed in these barbaric countries?

    • GetBackJack says:


      Aaron Klein gets close the heart of it, but very very few Conservatives will allow themselves to consider this might actually true. Conservatives by and large just cannot come to grips with organized evil except as a collection of words. After studying satanic ritual magic and writing about it for 30+ years I guarantee you it is real, organized, more prevalent than you have the capacity to imagine and is the driving force behind mass & school shootings.

    • canary says:

      There are reports the CT school shooter was into witchcraft. Then there was the one with a witch craft shrine at shot the politician, batman shooter looked like the devil. Witchcraft has been here since the beginning of time. The power gained from killing is now part of the gang culture brainwashing of getting a killing under their belt to initiate.

      Pre-schoolers’ clothes from sock, underwear, belts; so many skeletons and bones made all over the world. And cannibalism is growing in Africa among the militant youth . I suppose they can’t shoot an elephant for food.

    • Mithrandir says:

      If we can prove that the shooter was under the influence of liberalism, can we ban liberalism? Or at least control and regulate it? Register, fingerprint, photograph those who engage in liberalism?

  3. Mithrandir says:

    Matt Damon: ‘Game is rigged’
    Politico: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/matt-damon-game-is-rigged-85528.html?hp=l12

    “It’s easier now more than ever in my life to feel the fix is in, the game is riggedand no matter how hard you work to change things, it just doesn’t matter.”

    And yet he keeps voting for him, and keeps pouring money down the rat hole. Serves you right sucker!

    “We’re at a point where politicians don’t really get any benefit from engaging with long-term issues. Instead, it’s all about the next election cycle. Those guys in the House don’t do anything now but run for office.”

    What’s this? A TEA PARTY idea spewed from the mouth of a Holly-lib? All those “crazy” term-limits, and shrinking the size of government people are actually on to something? Big government is actually ineffective, by the stars man!

    It just proves my point that liberals have no ability to engage in long-term ideas and issues because they only focus on narrow-minded buzz of the day. Whatever is the hot-button issue that can make them feel good, is what rules the day.
    And as society crumbles due to liberal failure to think long-term, they have the nerve to complain that politicians have the same mind. It takes decades, and trillions of $ of failure before liberals come to terms with what conservatives warned them about in the first place.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      I pay little attention to what an actor has to say. But, there is a grain of a budding brain cell happening there. However, Damon is referring to republicans. He is not referring to socialists. He cannot yet recognize the mechanisms that he applies to conservatives as also applying to and especially to socialists.

      He still holds fast to the ideas that a socialist-run government is what’s needed so that the pesky task of “getting re-elected” doesn’t interfere with “getting things done” like putting solar panels on every unoccupied acre of the nation or killing people who eat beef.

      You have to understand socialists. I do. They want utopia and they want it now, forever and always. Well, the USSR, Red China, Cuba, North Korea and many other nations have tried it and are in the process of it. Damon does not see that the Norks are wrapped tighter than an airport sandwich, that Putin is a dictator, that Castro runs a destitute nation and that China uses slave labor to produce all the goods the US wants. He probably thinks that China is a booming economy like our own, but fails to realize that the lion’s share of money spent on Chinese goods goes to feed their government.

      But, then, if he does realize that, then he’s in agreement because, according to him, the only way to get things done is by government. This is what kids his age believe; That you have to turn to the authority to have a mass-change in thinking. He was taught this in his grade-school days. If you didn’t like sitting next to someone, you bitched to the school administrators, and they moved them. Instant satisfaction instead of having to learn to deal with it.

      There was always an authority figure there to make sure little Mattie got his chin wiped and had a clean set of clothes for him. TAKEN—CARE—OF. Nanny-state. Never a need, never a want left untended. All you have to do is ask.

      Taa-daaa…..the clue-bird of cold reality has come to land on Damon’s shoulder. Only…he only hears half of what it’s saying. He’s “giving up” because government (specifically conservative government) isn’t cooperating. I hear no criticism of captain jug-ears with the nicotine habit. I hear no criticism of Reid and his refusal to work with any republicans.

      No, Damon’s criticism is leveled at republicans and conservatives. He wants things to go his way and now. He thought that spending money on those fellow travelers would get him his desires, as he was taught in grade-school. But he failed to realize that his status as an AK-TOR only serves to benefit the party, not the other way around. HE is supposed to be a mouthpiece for them, not for THEM to do what HE wants.

      Sad, really. Epic failure on his part. But it won’t change his ideology.

    • canary says:

      “I assume there will be some Supreme Court appointments in this next term; that alone was reason to vote for him,” Damon told Playboy magazine in its January 2013 issue.”

      Oh those “awful cartoons” and that perverted magazine whose owner wears a robe all the time ready to jump in the sack.

      Oh those “awful cartoons” in the summer leading to modern Egypt protesting Hillary to leave Bill Clinton after those “awful cartoons” of him and Monica in the oval office. After all the bigamists have severe punishments for committing adultery and not a slap on the hand.

      Oh, those filthy American Celebrities films and Music star videos.

      Oh, those “awful” reports and photos in the summer that U.S. Soldiers were posing kissing the same sex in uniform and getting married.

      Where is the outrage from the gay community in the WH banning “homosexual” and words that offend Muslims from U.S. Soldiers and law enforcement at all levels, because all our U.S. soldiers are more endangered now getting shot and blown up by modern Afghan Muslim police and people.

      Where is the outrage from liberals and women libbers that Hillary Clinton just wants lot’s of grand babies from another woman’s body? Did she want lot’s of baby’s, but Bill didn’t?

      Why aren’t the liberals and women libbers defending Chelsea who says her mother is pressuring her to have babies when she plans to go into politics?

      Why doesn’t Hillary just adopt if she wants lot’s of babies.

      Celebrities and their willingness to take their clothes off sells. The likes of Jay and the rappers devil worshiping symbols and violence in their music and videos grows as their money grows.

      What’s Bloomberg going to do about the copy cat subway track pushers? It won’t be as simple as updating the Empire State building to discourage jumpers.

  4. captstubby says:

    who is Matt Damon?
    quit watching movies made in this country years ago.

  5. canary says:

    Rumors are that the EPA chief resigned because of a bizarre sexual affair.

    This would would not be significant in our country, but when our leader says the country who leads in protecting the environment will lead the world, may not set well with Egypt and other third world countries.

    And to send General Betraeus back to Afghanistan after the adulterous affair further endangers our troops.

    This may explain Hillary telling the Middle-Eastern countries that they can scrap some EPA regulations that are financially straining them on rebuilding and small businesses.


  6. canary says:

    Clinton’s blood clot hospitalization doesn’t make sense.

    After the the sleazier tabloid the globe stopped their normal headlines of Bill on his deathbed begging Hillary not to leave, they stopped any Clinton headlines which made Hillary more scarier in her power to control the media.

    So, for the National Enquirer to be the first to report something may be wrong with Hillary’s head or brain like a tumor, a worry she has had since last year falling on AF1 may make more since
    than this article.

    I’m surprised AP’s medical staff that helped would print a reckless statement by some Dr. Motamedias of Georgetown University that a blood clot in the leg is no big deal, and Dr. Goldstein, a neurologist who is director of Duke University’s giving us more information as to why
    after Hillary was found alone with a head injury was not taken immediately to the hospital.

    Further, Hillary’s people basing the fainting on dehydration from the flu, would be double serious as dehydration can lead to blood clots, especially after Hillary’s recent weight gain possibly from sedentary lifestyle traveling more than any Secretary of State in history.

    AP: Hillary Clinton Hospitalized with Blood Clot
    By Associated Press – Dec. 30, 2012

    by Matthew Lee
    AP Chief Medical Writer Marilynn Marchione in Milwaukee contributed to this report.

    Clinton’s doctors discovered the clot Sunday while performing a follow-up exam, her spokesman, Philippe Reines, said. He would not elaborate on the location of the clot but said Clinton is being treated with anti-coagulants and would remain at New York-Presbyterian Hospital for at least the next 48 hours so doctors can monitor the medication.

    Those are “no big deal” and are treated with six months of blood thinners to allow them to dissolve on their own and to prevent further clots from forming, he said.

    A clot in a lung or the brain is more serious. Lung clots, called pulmonary embolisms, can be deadly, and a clot in the brain can cause a stroke, Motamedi said.

    Dr. Larry Goldstein, a neurologist who is director of Duke University’s stroke center, said blood can pool on the surface of the brain or in other areas of the brain after a concussion, but those would not be treated with blood thinners, as Clinton’s aide described.

    Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/12/30/hillary-clinton-hospitalized-with-blood-clot/#ixzz2GbdnMa

    The severe dehydration they claim led to her fainting also is a major contributor to a blood clot.
    Makes no sense she was not immediately taken by ambulance to the hospital after being found alone so sick and injured. Especially with her status and money$ and she doesn’t get good health care. Did Bill discourage her to go the hospital? White House doctors? strange.

    Her money and status. Maybe Bill talked her out of going to the hospital. “Don’t leave me, Hillary”.

  7. yadayada says:

    I heard on the radio (today 1630 MT) it actually is in her brain, though there were not many details.

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