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‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves

Here is our usual weekend discussion thread once again, where comments on the general topics of the day are very welcome.

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This article was posted by Steve on Saturday, February 9th, 2013. Comments are currently closed.

14 Responses to “‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves”

  1. Steve says:

    As some readers may have noticed, S&L suffered a database glitch late yesterday, which caused us to lose the posts from the previous four days. I was able to recover the articles posted Friday, but not any comments. — In case anyone was wondering where their comments went.

    I apologize for the inconvenience. I believe (hope) the problem has been sorted out.

  2. Mithrandir says:

    Curious of your opinion:
    Florida judge approves birth certificate listing three parents
    From Reuters Thu, 7 Feb, 2013: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/florida-judge-approves-birth-certificate-listing-three-parents-233555185.html

    MIAMI (Reuters) – A Florida judge has approved the adoption of a 22-month-old baby girl that will list three people as parents on her birth certificate — a married lesbian couple and a gay man.

    Yeah. I have said this many times on here. Don’t act shocked. If 2 gay parents are Ok, why not 3? Why not 2 gay moms and 2 gay dads? This will satisfy the conservative point of view that children deserve a mom AND a dad…..well? They got 3 or 4!

    This is why you make your arguments and claims DECADES before a storm like this hits. All the way back to the 70s until now, conservatives could have EASILY made the claim that homosexuality is a mental illness, and actually is still listed in the DSM IV as such. They could have hung this albatross around the democrats’ heads every time they snuck out some trial balloons to check for backlash. But like Ted Kennedy accidentally killing his mistress, the Republicans decided to turn a blind-eye to such golden opportunities. They just don’t have a stomach for the fight.

    The conservative dawdling went like this:
    70s: Aw heck, why bother with this issue? No one in their right mind thinks homosexuality is normal.
    80s: AIDS is here, and we don’t want to look like we are blaming the victim.
    90s: We look intolerant opposing homosexuality.
    2000s: Holy crap! Homosexuals are a voting bloc now, we can’t say anything against them!
    2010s: Silence.

    Republicans just want to be part of the game in Washington, mostly as an under-dog minority. They think democrats want to sift out ideas and come to compromises. When the truth is, democrats already have their conversations with each other, their only interaction with Republicans is to trick them into compromise.

    Democrats are decades ahead of Republicans, and if you keep supporting the McCains, Romneys, and George Bushes of this world, you are going to have a bad time.

    • canary says:

      McCain and Bush were against gay adoption by two gay families, which has been done for decades before them.

      Romney though tolerant of gay adoption giving states the rights, but is still against gay marriage.

      Now Obama has just signed another executive allowing gay marriage.

      Obama in respect to his roots respects bigamy. He has given not limits what so ever as to who can marry who. He is so respectful of the diversity of cultures, that there will be no limits.

      4 more years and Obama is doing what he wants.

  3. captstubby says:

    Curious of your opinion:
    with my grandsons birthday coming up, i decided to send him some books.

    my first chose for early readers was my copy of the 1959 Whitman Tell a tales book ,

    “Little Black Sampo”

    this of course was vetoed by Grandma.

    so i went on line to find a more “politically Correct “book.

    so being out of the story book loop for a while, maybe some of you out there could guide me on this.

    i found two that where popular,

    “Mandy has two mommy’s”


    “Daddy has a roommate”

    any input would be appreciated.

    note ,

    the Whitman book is not for sale.

    • canary says:

      Catsby. I have a decades older copy. I was showing someone how incrediable the book’s shape and quality of the book, and got a harsh, “why that’s racist!” I said if you read it you will find it’s not racist.

      I would give her a copy of the our leaders Dreams of daddy books to read the grandchild a chapter each nite and see how long that lasts.

    • Mithrandir says:

      Conservatives should have stormed every school and library that had a copy of this on the shelf. People should have been fired, apologies all around, the works. Word gets out of this, and people voluntarily remove these things from their inventory.

      You all should have gotten organized, but up a fight decades ago when liberals sneak these trial balloons out, just to see what they can get away with, and as decades go by, they know they can get away with A LOT, and that’s the philosophy Obama and his gang know all too well, that conservatives may be opposed to things, but have no guts to put action to ideas. Unfortunately, democrats DO! They have their list of enemies and go about harassing them into compliance.

      Now you know what you are, and what you are up against, as an example.

  4. captstubby says:

    Constitution of the United States ,Article 2,section 3,
    “He {the president} shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union.”

    maybe some of you out there would like to share a passage from previous State of the Unions.

    one of my favorites.
    Ronald Reagan .
    “In his 1982 State of the Union address, the Gipper quoted George Washington.
    Then, lampooning his own age,
    he added: “For our friends in the press, who place a high premium on accuracy, let me say I did not actually hear George Washington say that, but it is a matter of historic record.”

  5. canary says:

    FoxNews: Senate Opens Immigration Hearings with Republicans Grilling Napolitano on Border Security

    Feb 13 2013

    Lawmakers clashed Wednesday over border security and enforcement at the first Senate hearing held as part of a renewed push for immigration reform, with Republicans challenging Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano’s claim that their concerns are just an “excuse” for inaction.

    “Each year, ICE leadership finds new excuses to justify the low morale,” he said. “Most Americans would be surprised to know that immigration agents are regularly prohibited from enforcing the two most fundamental sections of United States immigration law.”

    But a top committee Republican, Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, contradicted Napolitano, saying the administration has not focused sufficiently on enforcement.

    Sessions called for ICE Director John Morton to resign.

    Obama says he wants to stress border security in any plan but doesn’t want that issue to hold up the path to citizenship for the millions of illegal immigrants already here.

    “The numbers are flying all over the place,” she said. “But what I (also) know is fewer people are trying to enter.”

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/13/senate-opens-immigration-hearings-with-republicans-grilling-napolitano-on/#ixzz2Kt5h7NRL

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/13/senate-opens-immigration-hearings-with-republicans-grilling-napolitano-on/#ixzz2Kt5Lzsqu

    Chris Cane also said they are having to release criminal Mexicans and ICE is disciplining the border agents.

  6. captstubby says:

    watch the skys.

    Meteorite hits central Russia, more than 500 people hurt
    Russian meteorite caught on tape; injuries reportedKABC – Los Angeles 0:56A meteor hit over Russia’s Ural Mountains on Friday, causing sharp explosions and reportedly injuring …
    CHELYABINSK, Russia (Reuters) – More than 500 people were injured when a meteorite shot across the sky and exploded over central Russia on Friday, sending fireballs crashing to Earth, shattering windows and damaging buildings.
    People heading to work in Chelyabinsk heard what sounded like an explosion, saw a bright light and then felt a shockwave according to a Reuters correspondent in the industrial city 1,500 km (950 miles) east of Moscow.
    A fireball blazed across the horizon, leaving a long white trail in its wake which could be seen as far as 200 km (125 miles) away in Yekaterinburg. Car alarms went off, windows shattered and mobile phone networks were interrupted.
    “I was driving to work, it was quite dark, but it suddenly became as bright as if it was day,” said Viktor Prokofiev, 36, a resident of Yekaterinburg in the Urals Mountains.
    “I felt like I was blinded by headlights,” he said.
    No fatalities were reported but President Vladimir Putin, who was due to host Finance Ministry officials from the Group of 20 nations in Moscow, and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev were informed.
    A local ministry official said such incidents were extremely rare and Friday’s events might have been linked to an asteroid the size of an Olympic swimming pool due to pass Earth at a distance of 27,520 km (17,100 miles) but this was not confirmed.
    Russia’s space agency Roscosmos said the meteorite was travelling at a speed of 30 km (19 miles) per second and that such events were hard to predict. The Interior Ministry said the meteorite explosion had caused a sonic boom.
    Russia’s Emergencies Ministry said 514 people had sought medical help, mainly for light injuries caused by flying glass, and that 112 of those were kept in hospital. Search groups were set up to look for the remains of the meteorite.
    “There have never been any cases of meteorites breaking up at such a low level over Russia before,” said Yuri Burenko, head of the Chelyabinsk branch of the Emergencies Ministry.

    soon we will see one of these news storys.
    1 Kronos, the giant robot is desroying our world.
    2 Bruce Willis will be seen entering a space shuttle.
    3 112 superpowered russians will appear.
    4 russia now has baby superman.

    sorry ,but this was too good to pass up.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      “There have never been any cases of meteorites breaking up at such a low level over Russia before,” said Yuri Burenko, head of the Chelyabinsk branch of the Emergencies Ministry.

      Nice to know that Yuri is as ignorant of history as our own feckless elected masters.

      From Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

      The Tunguska event was an enormously powerful explosion that occurred near (and later struck) the Podkamennaya Tunguska River in what is now Krasnoyarsk Krai, Russia, at about 7:14 a.m. KRAT (00:14 UT) on June 30 [O.S. June 17], 1908.[1][2][3] The explosion, having the epicenter (60.886°N, 101.894°E), is believed to have been caused by the air burst of a large meteoroid or comet fragment at an altitude of 5–10 kilometres (3–6 mi) above the Earth’s surface. Different studies have yielded widely varying estimates of the object’s size, on the order of 100 metres (330 ft).[4] It is the largest impact event on or near Earth in recorded history.[5] The number of scholarly publications on the problem of the Tunguska explosion since 1908 may be estimated at about 1,000 (mainly in Russian). Many scientists have participated in Tunguska studies, the best-known of them being Leonid Kulik, Yevgeny Krinov, Kirill Florensky, Nikolai Vladimirovich Vasiliev, and Wilhelm Fast.[6]

      So it’s happened before. And, there are also legends that are unsubstantiated from Norse history, English history..all throughout ancient Europe that such events had occurred. Usually with a religious slant to them.

      It simply proves to me that, for most people, “history is what happened five minutes ago and anything before that is unimportant”. It ties in well with how government officials view history and how the “here and now” thinking only draws on the immediately available information controllers.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Additionally, there is a medieval church in Germany that is built in the center of an impact crater, with the majority of the stone used being that of the meteorite itself.


      It is doubtful the citizenry witnessed the impact event and the area was originally thought to be of volcanic origin, but Eugene Levy studied the area and found the shocked quartz that is the result of meteoric impact and also that the Nordlinger church is largely constructed from it.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Sorry, Eugene Shoemaker, not Levy. Eugene Levy was a player on SCTV in the 70’s.

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