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‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves

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This article was posted by Steve on Friday, April 12th, 2013. Comments are currently closed.

13 Responses to “‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves”

  1. Mithrandir says:

    MYTH: Obama Good at Sports. Another category in which his ability is fraudulent.

    Obama vs. Bush Opening Pitch:

    The media dutifully noted that the “boos” were because he was wearing a White Sox cap that no one in the stands could have seen clearly from where they were sitting. Notice him putting on the cap, and .07 seconds later pretending to react to the boos as if people had that much time to react to this side-show.

    Obama Throws Baseball Like a Girl:

    The ball didn’t even reach home plate.

    Charles Barkley on Obama:“He’s a lefty. He always goes left. And if you just stand there, I’m not sure if you were to open up the right side, he could go right at all.”

    Which is a polite way of saying he has NO SKILL at all. Anyone who has played b-ball knows just to over-play the hand that is favored and the player is easily shut down.

    Brick house Blues: Obama Makes 2 of 22 Shots:

    If you look at his hands, he is not even FOLLOWING THROUGH on his shots. He’s hopping, not using his legs for jumping. He also has no idea how to line up the ball and hands to his face. His supporting hand is in the wrong spot. He makes a lay-up with the worst form possible, no English spin on the ball. –Terrible.

    Obama on His Bowling Skills:“It’s like Special Olympics or something…”

    Ok, so no ability to aim. Take bowling off the list.

    Obama Sucks on Driving Range, (minute1:34):

    His form is so awful, it’s difficult to know where to start. Perhaps the body-hop before he makes contact with the ball.

    Obama Can’t Dance:

    Ok, scratch rhythm and dancing off of the list of physical activities he does well.

    Obama Shooting Clay Pigeons with Shotgun http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/02/white-house-releases-photo-of-obama-shooting-shotgun/

    Yeah, I always shoot clays with NO shooting jacket with ammo pouches, and scald my hand up near the barrel, and NOT use the first portion of my index finger to pull the trigger, and wear t-shirt and blue jeans, and SHOOT SO LOW, my reaction time would have to be instantaneous to hit 50-80 mph clay pigeons coming out of the trap.

    Obama Sucks at Ping-Pong

    But he looks like a pro playing next to horrible David Cameron.

    Scratch Soccer of the List:

    If you’re terrible, make a joke out of it. If he was any good, he would have shown off like a narcissist would.

    NBC Brian Williams Does His Best to Pretend Obama Has Football Skills http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpYcIgv7W-c

    Let’s put Brian Williams’ GUSHING next to what we ACTUALLY see:
    Picture 1: Obama tracking the ball.
    Picture 2: Ball caught away from his body.
    Picture 3: Diving into the ground for no apparent reason. No one is around, there is no ball.
    Picture 4: Stumbling face-first into the sand while no one is even guarding him.
    Picture 5: 2 on 2 pitch and catch. –Not even close to being “hardcore.”

    Obviously TMZ meant to embarrass the president and show how terrible he was, BUT, NBC uses the pictures with gushing voice-overs warning people they aren’t even CLOSE to his physical abilities, especially at 50 years old, and in fact, people will be so self-conscious that men will desire to, “dive for every football that comes remotely close to them.”
    Uh, I don’t think so Brian, in fact, his awful flopping all over the beach makes me more secure in my skills without even leaving the sofa.

    So tired of the level of spin these people are willing to go through just to support their liberal hero. Almost NOTHING that is said about him is believable. Every single word or story uttered from a liberal’s mouth must be double-checked with reality. Is what you know in sync with what you are hearing and seeing from them? No.

    • Steve says:

      Mithrandir, your posts keep getting caught by the system’s spam filter because you have included so many urls.

      Please try to keep them under five. Thanks! — Steve

  2. Petronius says:

    Some thoughts at tax time on life in Nerobama’s economy :

    I used to think I was poor.  Then they told me I wasn’t poor, I was needy. 

    Then they told me it was self-defeating to think of myself as needy, that I was culturally deprived. 

    Then they told me deprived was a bad image, that I was underprivileged. 

    Then they told me underprivileged was overused, that I was disadvantaged. 

    I still don’t have a dime, but I do have a great vocabulary.

    • River0 says:

      The gold market has been deliberately crashed in the last few days, and last Friday was the final coup de grace. A huge sell order of many tons of gold was executed, and like a spark in the Hindenburg, gold prices were sent into freefall.

      One of the harshest critics of Fed and EU monetary policy – the best treasury analyst in America – Rick Santelli, is blowing the whistle. Here he is on CNBC:


      Why would someone deliberately crash the precious metal market? As Rick says, “What does $1,900 an ounce gold say about the value of the world’s paper currencies?” Answer: It says loudly that smart people don’t trust the Fed, the EU, or the Chinese government. Their manipulation of the the economies of the world is destructive, tyrannical, and dangerous. All of them are flooding the world with cheap paper money, and the day will come when there’s so much of it around that it will plummet in value.

      If gold and silver can be made to appear worthless, that day of reckoning will be delayed, perhaps indefinitely.

      John Maynard Keynes, the early 20th century monetary guru and designer of the so-called “modern” industrial economies, once said the whole world would be better off if all the gold that exists were to be “sunk in the bottom of the sea”. Why? Because no longer would there be a fixed store of value. People would be less likely to question why and how they’re robbed by inflation and monetary manipulation.

      A deliberate run on the dollar was engineered in 2008, and caused the most recent global meltdown we’ve not yet recovered from.

      Bravo Rick Santelli for having the guts to speak the truth from a high pulpit.

    • Petronius says:

      Yes RiverO, Rick Santelli is always interesting.

      Government manipulation of the economy and money is making the markets uncertain, and saving and investing have become more problematic and dependent on the current “mania” of policy makers.

      The case for gold is still in place. This may be a temporary washout or panic selling like 2008. Or it may be a cyclical bear market that could last at least until end of Summer but probably much longer. But seems to me the fundamentals are still there.

      Once gold and silver broke below their technical support at $1536 and $26, the next support levels became $1400 or $1300 for gold and $23-22 for silver.

      Many new gold investors have paper losses from last 2 years, which means that we should expect continued selling into future price rallies

      But ultimately the shakeout of weak holders of gold will make price appreciations more sustainable.

      I believe the metals are oversold and would be surprised if gold and silver fell below their support at $1300 and $22. Mining shares are particularly hard hit but should recover when metals prices eventually recover. Some of the miners are providing attractive dividend yields.

      I am not a seller. I am looking to buy physical silver below $23 (silver looks better to me than gold). But also looking to accumulate gold, ETFs, the Canadian trusts, mine shares, and strong foreign currencies gradually through August.

      The run-up in the stock market appears to be driven by Fed printing, the search for yields/income, and profits of some of the big internationals, consumer staples, and utilities. Normally we would expect bull market leaders to be the cyclicals, industrials, oil, and copper, but so far these have been lackluster (or worse). Companies like CAT and DE are providing weak guidance. Instead the leaders have been defensive stocks, and that troubles me. It looks like bonds have become low yield with high risk, and investors are turning to defensive stocks as bond-substitutes.

      That is not a positive sign going forward. With the volatility in gold, there are no safe havens anymore, but gold remains the ultimate strong currency despite its recent change in price.

    • captstubby says:

      The Outstanding Public Debt as of 16 Apr 2013 at 09:29:08 PM GMT is:


      The estimated population of the United States is 314,790,479
      so each citizen’s share of this debt is $53,384.94.

      The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
      $3.85 billion per day since September 28, 2007!

      A gold reserve is the gold held by a central bank or nation intended as a store of value and as a guarantee to redeem promises to pay depositors, note holders (e.g., paper money), or trading peers, or to secure a currency.
      At the end of 2004, central banks and investment funds held 19% of all above-ground gold as bank reserve assets.
      It has been estimated that all the gold mined by the end of 2011 totalled 171,300 tonnes.
      At a price of US$1500 per troy ounce, reached on 12 April 2013, one tonne of gold has a value of approximately US $48.2 million.
      The total value of all gold ever mined would exceed US $8.2 trillion at that valuation.
      not even half of our

  3. canary says:

    Next time you buy cooking oil see where the it is actually grown from. You will have all these 0 trans fact b.s. and color codes, but only show where the cooking oil is distributed from.

    So, I ended up buy cooking oil “FROM” Canada; distributed by California. It must be safe.

    Then I found some food made in Mexico, sent to Canada, and then distributed to the states by Texas.

    So, where the heck is the cooking oil “From” Canada.

    I do not believe we make anything or grow anything in this country anymore. After all, this country doesn’t allow water irrigation to farmers. They pick at the water in this country, but food is coming from poor contaminated water countries like Africa and Mexico.

    Now we are importing products from Pakistan and

    Why doesn’t the USA barter with Pakistan to release the Doctor who helped capture Osama Bin Laden?

    Because they don’t want to give him the 1 million dollar reward?

    All this garbage labeling and we can’t find out where our foods or products are made from.

    Toothpaste is most likely made in Mexico where the water is poisonous and full of bacteria.
    There is no way the US is going to ship the ingredients to Mexico and have them make the toothpaste and then import it back.

    It changes. Sometimes Colgate and Crest aren’t made in Mexico.

    They seem to think they should only have to label something that comes from China.

  4. canary says:

    An Arrogant OK Sen. Dr. Tom Coburn (R) betrays Oklahomans before leaving office.

    Senator “Dr.” Tom Coburn also sees no problems of health facilities and Doctors asking if they own a gun.

    DailyOklahoman: Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn Fires Back at Critics over Gun Vote

    After being called a traitor and numerous obscene names on his Facebook page, Sen. Tom Coburn responded that the gun bill debate is necessary to keep dangerous people from buying firearms.

    By Chris Casteel – Apr 12, 2013

    WASHINGTON — Responding to outrage over his vote to advance gun legislation past a procedural hurdle, Sen. Tom Coburn said Friday that debate on the bill was necessary to address gaps allowing “dangerous people” to acquire firearms.

    “Every act of gun violence not only takes away the rights — and sometimes lives — of victims but also chips away at the rights of law-abiding citizens,” Coburn said in a lengthy statement.

    Coburn, R-Muskogee, received a barrage of negative comments on his Facebook page and at his offices in Washington and Oklahoma for his vote Thursday to allow debate on a bill proposing to expand background checks and crack down on gun trafficking.

    Others were a bit more diplomatic but still critical of Coburn’s decision to join 15 other Republicans in voting to advance the bill rather than filibuster.

    Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Tulsa, voted against moving the bill to debate.

    “What about “Shall Not Infringe” do you not understand? Your next step should be to run for “Community Organizer” in Chicago. Then you can follow in your idols footsteps and you two love birds can have dinner together every night. Thanks for selling out the American People, and Oklahoma.”

    In the statement, Coburn said, “Some have even suggested a more pro-Second Amendment Republican should run against me in the primary next election.

    I hate to disappoint them but I respect the will of the people so much I have primaried[sic] myself by term-limiting myself.”

    “What is up for consideration is how to improve a broken system that literally allows illegal aliens, drug traffickers, child molesters, rapists, felons, members of al-Qaida cells and mentally deranged persons to buy firearms,” he said.

    Coburn said Americans have “a responsibility to do their homework and understand what is and is not under consideration. My office is prepared to answer as many questions as possible as clearly and quickly as we can.”


    “Coburn said Americans have “a responsibility to do their homework…”

    Coburn turned liberal sometime ago as he doesn’t just want Republican medical patients.

  5. mr_bill says:

    Breaking News: In response to the Boston Marathon bombing by a Saudi National, nerobama has rushed to Saudi Arabia to bow to the Saudi King, kiss his ass, and apologize for America, in hopes of preventing another bombing. nerobama will also offer monetary aid, guns, fighter jets, and tanks to Saudi Arabia, to help prevent any further discontent with the US.

    Sec. of State Kerry will be on hand later to discuss the effects of the bombs on global warming.

  6. Petronius says:

    Got a letter from the IRS.

    I just received my tax return for 2011 back from IRS. It puzzles me!

    They are questioning how many dependents I claimed.

    I guess it was because of my response to the question, “List all dependents.”

    I replied: 12 million illegal aliens; 3 million crack heads; 50 million unemployed people on food stamps; 10 million on disability; over 2 million people in 243 prisons; half of Mexico; and 535 persons in the U. S. House and Senate.

    Evidently this was not an acceptable answer.

    I keep asking myself, Who did I miss?

  7. canary says:

    By Junius P. Long – Food For Thought

    If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for being in the country illegally …you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If the only school curriculum allowed to explain how we got here is evolution, but the government stops a $15 million construction project to keep a rare spider from evolving to extinction … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If you have to show identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor or check out a library book, but not to vote who runs the government … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If the government wants to ban stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines with more than ten rounds, but gives 20 F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If, in the largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but not a 24-ounce soda because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make you fat … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If an 80-year-old woman can be stripped searched by the TSA but a woman in a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If a seven year old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his teacher “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly acceptable … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If children are forcibly removed from parents who discipline them with spankings while children of addicts are left in filth and drug infested “homes”… you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more government intrusion, while not working is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks, Medicaid, subsidized housing and free cell phones … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to incentivize[sic] NOT working, with 99 weeks of unemployment checks and no requirement to prove they applied, but can’t find work … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

    If being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you more “safe” according to the government … you might live in a country founded by geniuses, but run by idiots.

  8. canary says:

    48 U.S. Schools following new UN curriculum

    Agenda 21′s IB WORLD School
    APRIL 13, 2013


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