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‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves

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This article was posted by Steve on Friday, May 10th, 2013. Comments are currently closed.

14 Responses to “‘The Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves”

  1. Mithrandir says:


    AP/ABC news crops photo of a VERY YOUNG looking Malcolm jr. without handcuffs, not the 28 year old replica of his grand-dad: http://tinyurl.com/d68yo56
    The UN-CROPPED photo of him wearing handcuffs is here: http://tinyurl.com/cpltygn

    Yahoo also crops photo and adds well groomed smiling photo: http://tinyurl.com/bmpd7po
    A more unflattering, non-smiling photo here: http://tinyurl.com/cuznbyw

    ~Killed his grandmother by setting fire to her apartment.
    ~Member of the “bloods.”
    ~Drug dealer.
    ~Went to prison for robbery.
    ~Diagnosed in prison as paranoid schizophrenic.
    ~Smashed windows in a Dunkin’ Donuts.
    ~Was in Mexico meeting activists.
    ~Got shook down in a dive bar in Mexico leading to death.

    Media says it’s a great loss because he reached out and helped kids. Which is the same thing they said about murderer Tookie Williams.

    • canary says:

      So, which Muslim wife of Malcolm X died from severe burns when the now dead grandson Shabazz burned her up with the house? Was it the one who aided the Muslim Black Panthers in murdering Malcolm for softening his loyalty.

      And who in the U.S. Embassy in Mexico would not release details of a murdered American citizen in Mexico. The same U.S. Embassy that left that tortured that U.S. Marine chained and dying in a filthy Mexican jail who had no criminal record like a Muslim felon named Shabazz.

      Maybe his deported Mexican buddy will sell pics.

    • canary says:

      CNN: Betty Shabazz, Malcolm X’s widow, dies at 61

      June 23, 1997

      NEW YORK (CNN) — Betty Shabazz, the widow of civil rights leader Malcolm X, died Monday, three weeks after being severely burned in a fire allegedly set by her 12-year-old grandson.

      Shabazz, 61, had suffered third-degree burns over 80 percent of her body in the June 1 incident at her home in Yonkers, just north of New York City.

      “Millions of people look to her for some kind of understanding of the history of the struggle,” said black activist and poet Amiri Baraka.

      Within hours of the fire, Shabazz’s grandson was arrested and accused of setting the blaze, reportedly because he was unhappy he had been sent to live with his grandmother.

      In New York, friends invited her to lectures by Nation of Islam founder Elijah Muhammad. He gave all of his followers the last name “X,” representing the African family name they would never know.

      After splitting from Muhammad in 1964, Malcolm and Betty X adopted the Muslim surname Shabazz.

      Betty Shabazz was left to bring up six daughters alone.

      In 1994, Shabazz spoke publicly about the long-held suspicion that Louis Farrakhan, the current leader of the Nation of Islam, had been behind the assassination of her husband.

      A year later, her daughter Qubilah Shabazz was charged in Minneapolis with trying to hire a hit man to kill Farrakhan. Betty Shabazz stood behind her daughter, insisting that an FBI informant entrapped her.

      Qubilah Shabazz made a deal with prosecutors in which they agreed to drop charges if she completed treatment for alcohol and psychiatric problems.

      Betty Shabazz eventually reconciled with Farrakhan, shaking his hand on the stage of Harlem’s Apollo Theater as 1,400 people cheered at a fund-raiser for her daughter’s defense. She also spoke at Farrakhan’s Million Man March in October 1995.


      MalcolmX’s prison term led him to Islam and leaving generations of attempted murderers.
      Shabazz was probably forgiven by the family as it might have been a family honor killing.

  2. Petronius says:

    Life in Nerobama’s America :

    Last week I went to five gun shops and two WalMarts in two States looking for .22LR ammo.

    They had none to sell.

    In fact, they had very little ammo of any description –– rifle, pistol, revolver, or shotgun –– except some boxes in unconventional calibers.

    They used to hold back one box of ammo for customers who bought a gun, but now they can’t even do that. They’ll still sell you a gun, but no ammo for it. And if you don’t buy the gun, it’ll be gone within a week, sold to another customer. Some shops gave me a number to call, in case they might get a shipment in, so that I could try to hustle down and snatch it up before somebody else beat me to it. Some said they hadn’t had any 22LR “in a long time,” which aroused my suspicions about DHS interference in the marketplace.

    I never thought I’d see the day when you couldn’t get .22LR, but here we are.

    The main economic stimulus these days seems to be from people expanding their personal ammo dumps.

    Original “assault rifle,” circa 1776 :


    • Mithrandir says:

      This is what kind of government we are paying for. To manipulate the Constitution, our money, cornering the market on bullets, putting the government agencies like the IRS to go harass opposition, to give our money away to terrorist countries yet close our airports in the process. I just wonder what would happen if Texas seceded but kept the same currency? How many people would apply for Texan citizenship, and refresh their Constitutional rights?

      When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

  3. captstubby says:

    a pound of gold or a pound of lead?
    Executive Order 6102 is an Executive Order signed on April 5, 1933, by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt “forbidding the Hoarding of Gold Coin, Gold Bullion, and Gold Certificates within the continental United States”. The order criminalized the possession of monetary gold by any individual, partnership, association or corporation.

    By Executive Order Of The President of The United States, March 9, 1933.
    By virtue of the authority vested in me by Section 5 (b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended by Section 2 of the Act of March 9, 1933, in which Congress declared that a serious emergency exists, I as President, do declare that the national emergency still exists; that the continued private hoarding of gold and silver by subjects of the United States poses a grave threat to the peace, equal justice, and well-being of the United States; and that appropriate measures must be taken immediately to protect the interests of our people.

    Therefore, pursuant to the above authority, I hereby proclaim that such gold and silver holdings are prohibited, and that all such coin, bullion or other possessions of gold and silver be tendered within fourteen days to agents of the Government of the United States for compensation at the official price, in the legal tender of the Government.

    All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed, pending action in the due course of the law. All sales or purchases or movements of such gold and silver within the borders of the United States and its territories and all foreign exchange transactions or movements of such metals across the border are hereby prohibited.

    Your possession of these proscribed metals and/or your maintenance of a safe deposit box to store them is known by the government from bank and insurance records. Therefore, be advised that your vault box must remain sealed, and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the Internal Revenue Service.

    By lawful order given this day, the President of the United States.

    Franklin Roosevelt—March 9, 1933

  4. canary says:

    Petronius, the news has been reporting for a couple of months the Feds are buying up the ammo. I saw on news where people can’t even buy 22 shorts and some other unpopular bullet I forget. After Obama was elected 22 shorts was about all you could find and now you can’t.

    It started with about 3 bullets per American citizen and last I read the Feds bought up to 10 rounds per American. The Bill proposed below makes it appear less.
    Who knows since Lawmakers are being kept in the dark.

    Several Senators have been asking why for some time. I posted this a couple of weeks ago, and so it appears States can do this.

    Also, I was surprised that Arizona is trying to stop their state from destroying guns that people are turning in, and AZ lawmakers are saying it’s a waste of their state taxpayers to destroy it.
    It did not say what AZ lawmakers think their government should do with the guns. Perhaps resell them in another state? Ship them to other countries? Or save them?

    Here is another update after the Bill below I posted with more on this


    Inhofe: Obama administration trying to ‘dry up’ ammo supply [AUDIO]

    Originally published May 6, 2013
    The Daily Caller

    On Aaron Klein’s weekend show on New York City’s WABC radio, Oklahoma Republican Sen. James Inhofe accused the Obama administration of buying up ammunition at an unprecedented level to bypass the Second Amendment so gun-owners “can’t even buy ammunition because government is purchasing so much.”

    “Let’s make sure that your audience out there is aware, Aaron, that our president, Obama, has been doing everything he could to stop the private ownership of guns in America,” Inhofe said. “You know that, everyone knows that. And yet he’s been voted down in a big way by a large majority. And so my feeling is that he’s doing this to buy up [ammunition] so that we can’t buy: Honest, law-abiding citizens here in the United States, like my son, can’t even buy ammunition because government is purchasing so much.”

    Inhofe explained to Klein he is working to introduce the Ammunition Management for More Obtainability (AMMO) bill that will limit “non-defense, armed federal agencies to pre-Obama levels of ammunition.”

    “It’s designed to have the GAO (that’s the Government Accounting Office) inventory — not the Defense Department, but all other departments that use weaponry — as to what they’re doing in terms of the amount of ammunition that they have bought to dry up the market for honest, law-abiding citizens,” Inhofe said.

    The Oklahoma Republican called the buy-ups intentional and referred to testimony last month from Nick Nayak, the Department of Homeland Security’s chief procurement officer, who said DHS has the right to buy up the ammunition.

    “I believe it’s intentional,” Inhofe said. “Now we had someone testify the other day the DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, has the ‘right’ — this is a bureaucrat that said this — they have the ‘right’ to buy as much as they want, and they’re planning to buy 750 million rounds. Well, that is more than three times the amount that our soldiers are using for training to defend our nation. So, it’s just another effort to restrict gun activity and ownership. We have in this country the Second Amendment, that preserves the right to keep and bear arms, and the president doesn’t believe in that.”

    Inhofe was skeptical of theory that the ammo buy-up was an effort by DHS to seize power from the state, as some have suggested, but did say it was unprecedented and shouldn’t be allowed.

    “This has never happened in this country before,” he added. “We’ve never had government trying to take that much control at the expense of the law-abiding citizens. And we’re not going to let it happen.”



    Inhofe, Lucas Introduce Bill Limiting Federal Agencies From Stockpiling Ammunition

    WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) and Congressman Frank Lucas (R-OK-3) today introduced in their respective chambers the Ammunition Management for More Obtainability (AMMO) Act of 2013. The legislation would require the Government Accountability Office (GAO) to conduct a report on the purchasing of ammunition by federal agencies, except the Department of Defense, and its affect on the supply of ammunition available to the public. The AMMO Act would restrict agencies from obtaining additional ammunition for a six-month period if current agency stockpiles are higher than its monthly averages prior to the Obama Administration.

    “President Obama has been adamant about curbing law-abiding Americans’ access and opportunities to exercise their Second Amendment rights,” said Inhofe. “One way the Obama Administration is able to do this is by limiting what’s available in the market with federal agencies purchasing unnecessary stockpiles of ammunition. As the public learned in a House committee hearing this week, the Department of Homeland Security has two years worth of ammo on hand and allots nearly 1,000 more rounds of ammunition for DHS officers than is used on average by our Army officers. The AMMO Act of 2013 will enforce transparency and accountability of federal agencies’ ammunition supply while also protecting law-abiding citizens access to these resources.”

    “After hearing from my constituents about the shortage of ammunition in Oklahoma and the Department of Homeland Security’s profligate purchases of ammunition,” said Lucas. “We have introduced the AMMO Act of 2013 to curtail these purchases so Americans can exercise their Second Amendment rights without being encumbered by the federal government. I was surprised to find out the DHS has the right to buy up to 750 million rounds of ammunition over the next five years, while it already has two years worth of ammo already. This is an issue that must be addressed, and I am pleased this legislation provides us the opportunity to do so.”


  5. Mithrandir says:

    Articles of Impeachment against Richard M. Nixon


    Article 2
    Using the powers of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, or contravening the laws governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposed of these agencies.
    This conduct has included one or more of the following:

    He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavoured to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, confidential information contained in income tax returns for purposed not authorized by law, and to cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be intitiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.

    Sound like anyone we know?

  6. captstubby says:

    comments found this morning on Yahoo/ABC news.
    this is how we got “4 more years.”

    Review chairman: Clinton didn’t make Benghazi call
    ” FACT is that they want to question Hillary about every single aspect of her life, and then catch her in some lie. If they can get her to lie under oath, then they can act. But what most people don’t know is that politicans are free to lie as much as they want, as long as they aren’t under oath. Many people are under the impression that Fox news is some quasi governmental agency, and that every time a politician says something against the version of events Fox presents, this is being added into some cosmic ledger against the politician. But of course that isn’t true, and when certain politicians said there was no evidence of WMDs in Iraq and Fox said the opposite, who was right there? I’m not saying that Fox news lied there, but that the truth is not such a cut and dried thing.

    Look at Bill Clinton, once they had him under oath, they kept throwing one question after another, and he decided to not answer a personal question about who he was sleeping with. And like most politicians, he was into some hanky panky. And lying about his affair is what got him into trouble, not any thing important to the running of the U.S.”

    IRS kept shifting targets in tax-exempt groups scrutiny:
    “ado about nothing. The constitution is a working document, meant to be revisited and amended as times change. Blind allegiance to a 230 year old document is dogma.”

  7. captstubby says:

    a foreign head of state dictator is even humble by this American.


  8. canary says:

    After Kermit Gosnell was convicted of murdering 3 babies, Planned Parenthood Federation of America Vice President for Communication’s Eric Ferrero demands later term abortions be legal. With total disregard to the “murdered babies” Planned Parenthood statement disregards babies.

    “… This verdict will ensure that no woman is victimized by Kermit Gosnell ever again.

    “…, and we must reject misguided laws that would limit women’s options and force them to seek treatment from criminals like Kermit Gosnell.”

    Read more: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/05/13/read-planned-parenthood-releases-statement-gosnell-verdict#ixzz2TFpXAJvL

  9. canary says:

    CAIR ‘s thugs aggressively bullying schools in US to ban educational material and discussion of
    Islamic terrorism or Islamic bullying of women. CAIR continues their intimidating smoke-screen of having the same powers of the DOJ and law enforcement.

    The Fryeburg Free Press: Council on American–Islamic Relations Intervenes in School Bullying Case

    March 21, 2013


  10. captstubby says:

    Carney: “I Am Extremely Sympathetic To Concerns About The Ability Of Reporters To Pursue Journalism Freely”
    Piers Morgan Tonight, May 16, 2013)

    JAY CARNEY: I very strongly believe, as does the president, in the need for the press to be able to pursue investigative journalism freely. I strongly believe, as does the president, in the First Amendment, and the Freedom of Speech, and the Freedom of the Press. These are core values of our democracy.

    I also believe, as does the president, that we have to protect, our national security, secrets. Our classified information, because the consequences of not protecting them can be severe, and can be damaging to our national security. And they can endanger the lives of American men and women abroad.

    As a reporter for 21 years, I am extremely sympathetic to concerns about the ability of reporters to pursue journalism freely, and so is the president, and that’s why we have to find this balance. It is necessary for an administration, for a president, to ensure that the secrets that protect Americans abroad, and that protect our national security, are not leaked, because the consequences of that can be severe.

    the WH got the ” protect secrets because the consequences of not protecting them can be severe, and can be damaging .”covered .
    its the ” the First Amendment, and the Freedom of Speech, and the Freedom of the Press,
    and protect Americans abroad part that needs work.

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