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The NY Times Obsession With ‘Gay Marriage’

From the relentless gay militants at the New York Times:

Support for Gay Marriage Outweighs Opposition in Polls

May 9, 2012

President Obama’s decision to endorse same-sex marriage undoubtedly entails some political risk, but recent polls suggest that public opinion is increasingly on his side.

According to surveys included in the PollingReport.com database, an average of 50 percent of American adults support same-sex marriage rights while 45 percent oppose it, based on an average of nine surveys conducted in the past year.

This is a reversal from earlier periods: support for same-sex marriage has been increasing, and opposition to it has been decreasing, at a relatively steady rate of perhaps two or three percentage points a year since 2004

Which is why that whenever the issue is on the ballot it has lost, in 32 out of 32 referendums. And, never mind that while gay marriage was voted down in California in 2008 by an 8% margin, it was just voted down In North Carolina by a 22% margin. Which would seem to indicate movement in the other direction.

But even if these claims are true and polls show more people favor gay marriage now than they used to, so what? We do not make our policy based on polls. We make them on elections. Or, at least, we used to.

And, after all, polls show more people now are anti-abortion than pro abortion. So does The Times think we should overturn Roe v. Wade? In fact, the polls say most people overwhelmingly oppose Obama-Care and all of Obama’s policies.

Besides, as we have suggested before, polls can be misleading since people do lie to pollsters. In fact, it is not at all farfetched to believe that more and more people are lying to pollsters today because they are afraid of being seen as bigoted.

In fact, some might even fear being prosecuted for a thought crime given the daily onslaught of propaganda that we get every day from the news media and the rest of the Democrat Party.

Still, even if polls have sometimes overstated support for same-sex marriage, and if some of the Americans who support same-sex marriage are less likely to turn out to vote than those who oppose it, the issue now seems to have a bit of wiggle room, with supporters slightly outnumbering opponents in recent national surveys

In other words, even this pollster admits that polls overstate the support for gay marriage.

But even if it is true that polls show that more people favor gay marriage now than they used to, so what? We do not make our policy based on polls. We make them on elections. Or, at least, we used to.

But this is the kind of article you get when your newspaper stops reporting the news and takes up militant advocacy for a cause.

In fact, here are the top political news stories of the day as listed by the RSS feeds from today’s New York Times:

1. News Analysis: Obama’s Watershed Move on Gay Marriage — Same-sex marriage is still a controversial issue, but one on which views are changing rapidly, polls show, a point that President Obama clearly came to recognize.

2. Obama Says Same-Sex Marriage Should Be Legal — By publicly endorsing same-sex marriage in a television interview, the president took a definitive stand on one of the most contentious and politically charged social issues of the day.

3. Romney Reaffirms Opposition to Marriage, or Unions, for Gay Couples — The question of precisely what legal status and protections should be granted to gay couples is emerging as an issue of the sharpest possible contrast between the two presidential candidates.

5. Civil Union Bill May Be Revived in Colorado — A call for a special legislative session by Gov. John W. Hickenlooper could revive a bill that would have allowed civil unions for same-sex couples in Colorado.

And there’s still more:

22. The Caucus: Romney Draws Contrast, but Does Not Hammer Obama on Gay Marriage — Mitt Romney responded to President Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage by drawing a contrast with his own oft-repeated view that "marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman."

23. The Caucus: What Romney Has Said About Same-Sex Marriage — In endorsing same-sex marriage, President Obama has offered voters the sharpest possible contrast with Mitt Romney on a social issue that polls show still evenly divides the country

24. FiveThirtyEight: Support for Gay Marriage Outweighs Opposition in Polls — President Obama’s decision to endorse same-sex marriage undoubtedly entails some political risk, but recent polls suggest that public opinion is increasingly on his side.

That list is just from today. But it is by no means unusual.

In fact, a search of the New York Times website for the phrase "gay marriage" reveals they have published 9 stories on "gay marriage" in in past 24 hours. 53 in the past 7 days. 67 in the past 30 days. 123 in the last 90 days. 420 in the last 12 months. And in the 12 years since the term ‘gay’ has been allowed to appear in the paper, there have been 2,905 articles containing the phrase "gay marriage."

Apparently, the New York Times has gone from being the ‘Old Gray Lady’ to being the ‘Old Gay Lady.’ And the news or even the fact be damned.

This article was posted by Steve on Thursday, May 10th, 2012. Comments are currently closed.

2 Responses to “The NY Times Obsession With ‘Gay Marriage’”

  1. untrainable says:

    If we look at this through the prism of “how it will affect Obama” as most of the news media does for every story these days, I don’t see how this can help Obama much at all. Even if the polls are correct and support for gay marriage has increased since Obama said 3 years ago that marriage is between a man and a woman, look at Obama voters. The majority of people who support gay marriage were probably going to vote for him anyway, He straddled the issue for 3 years, and this position is no real suprise to anyone. And we all know he’ll say anything that he thinks will get him re-elected whether he believes it or not. However, looking at the 32-0 numbers, especially in swing states and the south, the damage may have been done. Black voters in the south are majority against gay marriage, and depending on how committed they are to voting for a black man vs voting for gay marriage, it would seem that he has only done harm to his base by coming out of the voting closet.

    But let’s be honest, if the election hangs on to marry gays, or not to marry gays, which is pretty silly on it’s face, I don’t see Obama gaining any new votes. If anything he has alienated anyone who actually believed his original position. We all know this is just a CYA move for Obie, probably because his fundraising isn’t going as well as he thought, and pressure from the gay lobby was getting uncomfortable after plugs Biden opened his pie hole.

    And why is it that when Obama changes his position it is called an evolution, but if Romney does it, it’s called a flip flop? That’s rhetorical, of course. But IMHO, it’s like Romney said, “It’s about the economy… and we ain’t stupid.”

  2. Anonymoose says:

    It also gets me there’s no discussion at all about anyone else wanting to challenge Obama within the Democratic party, kind of like it’s a done deal already.

    As for these polls that seem to always been diametrically opposed to how people vote, I think it comes to some variation of four things:

    Being unable to get a truly representative number of people in the phone polls. Conservatives are more likely to have unlisted phone numbers, and aren’t as willing to answer questions to some pollster who has their phone number, name and address and may not agree with what they say. I know several people who would just hang up the phone if it was the Times calling. By comparison, liberals and especially the younger twenty something crowd, are easy to get ahold of and willing to let everyone know what they think.

    Polls that give misleading questions or play with the figures. I first began cluing into this during the “assault weapons” ban under Clinton when somehow every other gun involved in a crime was an “assault weapon or *otherwise affected by the ban*” which in code speak meant anything using a “high capacity magazine” over 10 rounds, which was a good portion of handguns. The same with this, asking someone if they support gay rights to one person means they should have the same legal rights everyone else has and nothing more, which means no gay marriage, while to another it means the “more than equal rights” of not only gay marriage but being declared a protected minority class. The pollsters I think know people are wising up to this and more careful in what they ask.

    Playing funny numbers with the math. If 20 people answer their question but only 1 is a selected minority group and that minority makes up 10% of the population, well their answer is only 5% of the poll group so they double that person’s responses. This is a common technique and supposedly justified by the math, but it makes a few people much more powerful in their responses and can easily sway a poll by having a lot of “people” saying the same thing.

    And lastly, a blatant bias in the poll taker that either shows up deliberately or unintentionally in their “results.” Again with the gun control about the time of the “Million Mom March” one of the three letter news organizations had their chief poll taker in a live Q&A session and he was flat out accusing anyone who disagreed with him as being “asked to be there by a membership organization,” or the NRA. Is he really going to be honest on a poll and topic he’s emotionally invested in?

    However as noted, it’s votes that matter, where what each person casts matters and hopefully only once, rather than polls.

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