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The S&L ‘Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves

Here is our weekend discussion thread, where comments on the general topics of the day are very welcome.

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This article was posted by Steve on Saturday, January 25th, 2014. Comments are currently closed.

7 Responses to “The S&L ‘Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves”

  1. canary says:

    Texas runner Wendy Davis tightens her language claiming “And you’re damn right it’s a true story.”

    Wendy the witch is a hater and cheat just like her Battle Ground Texas cohorts that are hitting every Mexican border town in Texas handing out voter registration forms.

    Wendy DavisVerified account
    No false attack can take away my story. And no sleazy political trick will stop me from giving voice to yours. http://bit.ly/WendyStory

    Dear Friend,

    As our campaign has gained momentum, our opponents have gotten more and more desperate. But now they’ve stooped to a new low by attacking my family, my education, and my personal story – playing politics with the journey that has been my life.
    Mine is a story about a teenage single mother who struggled to keep her young family afloat. It’s a story about a young woman who was given a precious opportunity to work her way up in the world. It’s a story about resiliency, and sacrifice, and perseverance.

    And you’re damn right it’s a true story.

    Throughout this campaign, I’ve shared that story – not because it’s unique, but because it isn’t.

    The story of my life is also the story of millions of single mothers who feel alone in the world, millions of young dreamers searching for their chance to become something more than what they were born into, millions of families all across Texas who would sacrifice everything to give their children a better future.

    It’s those stories – your stories – that drive my campaign. But Greg Abbott and his allies don’t want to hear them. They don’t have anything to offer Texans who find themselves in the same difficult situation I was in when I was young. They would slam the doors I walked through and pull up the ladders I was lucky to be able to climb.

    And now, instead of offering real ideas to improve your life, they’re attacking mine.

    It won’t work. The only thing Greg Abbott and his allies have proved with these desperate attacks is that they don’t understand what it means to live a life like mine – a life like that of so many people all across our state.

    They don’t know me – and, what’s more important, they don’t know you.

    I’m not surprised that the Abbott campaign would resort to attacking the story of a single mother who worked hard to get ahead.

    And I’m not afraid of their false attacks – I developed thick skin long before anyone knew my name.

    What I am is deeply proud of the life I’ve built and the daughters I’ve raised – and deeply grateful to the many, many people who have shared their stories and offered their support as I’ve traveled our state.

    No false attack can take away my story. And no sleazy political trick will stop me from giving voice to yours.

    Your stories are why I’m running for Governor. And together, I know we’ll make sure that the Texas we leave to our children is a place where every young mother can build a better life for her child. . . where every family can work their way up the economic ladder. . . where every Texan can achieve their dreams and live out their own success story.

  2. canary says:

    It so describes Wendy Davis’s blue team Battle Grounds Texas’ activities at every border town, Spanish speaking grocery stores, and even celebrating MLK Day by degrading his true beliefs with rainbow signs supporting same sex-marriage.

    Someone tell Wendy, MLK was against abortion and same sex marriage.

    The NY Times makes you have to guess, but it’s pretty obvious they were Democrats arrested by the FBI who most likely will be rewarded with a job with Acorn. The NY Times also failed to give the ethnicity of those arrested or their citizenship.

    NYT: Texas Vote-Buying Case Casts Glare on Tradition of Election Day Goads

    DONNA, Tex. — In this Rio Grande Valley town of trailer parks and weedy lots eight miles from the Mexico border, people call them runners or politiqueras — the campaign workers who use their network of relatives and friends to deliver votes for their candidates. They travel around town with binders stuffed with the names and addresses of registered voters, driving residents to and from the polls and urging those they bump into at the grocery store to support their candidates.

    But in recent weeks, the suicide of the school board president here and accusations of vote buying against three politiqueras have rocked the system.

    The school system is the largest employer, and city government is the second largest; local politics rivals high school football as a favored pastime.

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    A screen shot from a campaign video for Alfredo Lugo, whose suicide in Donna, Tex., added to criticism of turnout practices.

    Three women working as politiqueras in the 2012 elections in Donna were arrested by F.B.I. agents in December and accused of giving residents cash, drugs, beer and cigarettes in exchange for their votes.

    Two of the three women — Rebecca Gonzalez and Guadalupe Escamilla — are accused of paying some voters as little as $3 for each of their votes. One voter was given a pack of cigarettes.

    Others were taken to buy drugs after they received cash for voting for a politiquera’s candidate.

    Ms. Gonzalez, Ms. Escamilla and the third woman, Diana Castaneda, said the candidates and their campaign managers would give them the cash and instruct them to use it to pay voters in the 2012 primary and general elections, the F.B.I. said in court documents.

    Last year, Sonia Leticia Solis, a politiquera in the Rio Grande Valley city of Brownsville, pleaded guilty to voting more than once in a 2012 primary runoff, by obtaining mail-in ballots using forged absentee-voter applications and casting five votes.

    “In Donna, we’ve always had suspicions that some people were not running clean campaigns,” said René Guerra, the district attorney in Hidalgo County, which includes Donna.

    Mr. Guerra said that vote buying was hard to prove, and that he lacked the manpower to investigate the 2012 elections.

    … said Mr. Simmons, 60, who is also the city’s volunteer fire chief and
    the school district’s director of custodial services. “They get ahold[sic] of you, and they know how to play you.”

    Mr. Simmons, who was a friend of Mr. Lugo’s, said the recent events might finally put an end to the politiqueras.

    “Now, we don’t have to hire them anymore,” he said.

    Most of them are women — mothers, grandmothers and neighborhood gadflies who work as runners to earn extra money.

    A woman who worked as a politiquera in Donna said paying cash or trading drugs for votes had been common in recent elections.

    She estimated that in the 2012 elections, 2,000 votes were bought with cash or drugs. Low-income voters, she said, had come to expect a payment in exchange for their vote.

    “People are asking to get paid because they already know,” said the woman, who did not want to be identified out of fear of retaliation and because of the investigation.

    (the rest)

    “The three women worked for several candidates running for seats on the board of the Donna Independent School District, though court documents do not identify any candidates or campaign managers.”

    Oh, I forgot the new federal law that law enforcement can no longer list ethnicity, race, or religion.

  3. Mithrandir says:

    I think it’s fair to whittle-away the 19th Amendment in the same manner that the 2nd Amendment is whittled away.

    ►Perhaps women would enjoy a background check before they are allowed to vote?

    ►How about a mental health check, to see if they are sane enough to be trusted with the vote?

    ►Let’s revoke their right to vote for drunk driving offenses, surely if they can’t be trusted with alcohol, they can’t be trusted with the vote.

    ►Women should be given training classes so that they are knowledgeable enough to use their vote properly.

    ►Women should not be allowed to vote if they are angry. They should have a 7 day cooling-off period before voting.

    ►Women need to have a voting license PERMIT before they are allowed to vote, which will be approved by the local sheriff, and must be renewed every year with a knowledge/psychological test, and fee.

    ►If women ever go to the hospital for DEPRESSION, their right to vote can and will be revoked, as they are not able to use their vote properly.

    ►If a woman ever hits her husband or boyfriend out of anger, her right to vote will be permanently revoked.

    ►If a woman has an abortion, and can’t be trusted with a baby, she can’t be trusted with a vote.

    ►If women use their right to vote to whittle away and disrespect the other Amendments to the Constitution, their right to vote cannot be trusted, and can be revoked permanently.

    ►Women need to store their voter registration card in a locked safe away from children, or in a carrying case in the trunk of their car, separate from any voter paraphernalia.

    ►Women voters need to stay at least 1000 yards from a public school as not to endanger children with their wacky voter ideas.

    ►Cities like Chicago, New York, and L.A., it will be VERY difficult to get a women’s voter license. You need to apply with a large fee, explain exactly why you need to vote, why your husband can’t just vote on your behalf, where you will be living and voting, where you are going to store your voter registration card, what district you will be living in, you will be subject to home inspections to see if your voter card is properly stored, and wait at least 5 years for your paperwork to be processed and possibly rejected. You can appeal your rejection with fees, or reapply again. Newspapers can also publish on a map where all the women voters are.

    ►Every time a woman does or says something stupid, or uses her vote for something stupid, legislation will immediately be passed to restrict and tighten women’s access to the vote.

    ►Any woman having a hard time returning from a war zone, postpartum depression, divorce, break-ups, death in the family, recovering from surgery can and will have their voter cards revoked temporarily and can be permanently.

    ►Any woman who has had her 19th Amendment revoked for any reason, can apply for a pardon from the President of the United States whose status will be reviewed in a case-by-case situation ( campaign donations ).

    ►Women voters must avoid “Women Voter-Free Zones” as to not corrupt or infect the other voters inhabiting that zone.

    ►Women voters cannot bring their voter cards on college campuses, and are not allowed to use their vote on college campuses. Their voter cards must be kept off campus.

    ►Women who have a concealed voter card may be prohibited from entering an airport, school, government building, or private business that explicitly states they are not allowed to enter.

    ►Women cannot threaten anyone with their vote either verbally, or written on paper or digitally through mediums such as the internet.

    The Pen is Mightier than the Sword. With that in mind, women voters are much more dangerous than gun owners, and need to be regulated with the same fairness they and others show the 2nd Amendment.

    • canary says:

      Mithrandir, I don’t think there is much difference between men and women as to the politicians running the country. I know more women that voted against Obama and his gestapo.

    • Mithrandir says:

      I’m so glad this tongue-in-cheek analogy, defending the 2nd Amendment using absurdity, went completely over your head. . .

    • canary says:

      Mithrander, It did not go over my head. It only took one word to show what you posted was absurd, and sometimes it’s difficult to see if someone has their tongue in their cheek.

      Though, I don’t understand your being so glad or having a problem with my comment.

  4. captstubby says:

    two news storys.

    number one;
    Afghani officials freed 37 insurgents and Taliban fighters with “blood on their hands” in what the Pentagon called a “major step backward” for the rule of law in the war torn nation.
    The hardened fighters were among 88 prisoners who were being held by the U.S. and being transferred to the emerging Afghan criminal justice system. U.S. authorities said many had directly participated in attacks that wounded or killed scores of U.S. military personnel and Afghan citizens, yet were freed by the Afghan Review Board.
    “…speculated that the decision had likely come down from President Hamid Karzai, who has increasingly tried to show his independence from the coalition.”

    “In a recent quarterly report, the US special inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction said that, when security for aid workers is figured in, the total amount of nonmilitary funds Washington has appropriated since 2002 “is approximately $100 billion”—more than the US has ever spent to rebuild a country. That estimate came out in July. Since then, Congress has appropriated another $16.5 billion for “reconstruction.”
    There could be no better example of what ails the effort to build Afghanistan than USAID’s absurdly named IDEA-NEW program. The purpose of this five-year, $150 million endeavor was to create new economic opportunities for the nation’s opium-poppy farmers that would dissuade them from the illicit trade that has made Afghanistan the world’s largest supplier of opium, used to make heroin.
    The US tried to install anesthesia, X-ray, ventilator, and defibrillator devices worth $1.75 billion in Afghan military hospitals, but SIGAR found that Afghan staffers were completely incapable of maintaining the equipment because they did not have “the requisite technical expertise.” US officials issued a “stop work” order.
    since 2003 USAID has spent $1.1 billion on promoting “local governance and community development.”
    At a summit in Tokyo last summer, American and other world leaders pledged $16 billion more in nonmilitary aid to be spent through 2015, the year after Western forces are supposed to leave.

    The US military budgeted $11.2 billion more for military training during 2012 and has requested another $5.8 billion for 2013.
    Afghanistan has the world’s highest infant mortality rate; one hundred and twenty-two of every thousand children die before they reach age one. UNICEF reports that fifty-nine percent of the nation’s children grow up “stunted” for lack of nutrition during the early years of life. That’s the world’s second-worst rate, behind Ethiopia. And even after more than a decade of intensive development aid from not only the United States but dozens of other nations, Afghanistan still ranks near the bottom on per capita income, literacy, life expectancy, electricity usage, Internet penetration, and on the World Bank’s broad Human Development Index.
    As for all those new schools: The Taliban have attacked, bombed, or blown up hundreds of them—more than one hundred just last year, the UN reported. And for those that remain standing, few have electricity or running water. Teachers are barely educated, often unpaid, “and the text books are mostly outdated,” said Javid Ahmad, an Afghan writer and former aid worker there. “They’re mostly Pakistani, Iranian or Indian, published in the seventies or eighties.”
    People love to talk about how many more girls are in school now, he acknowledged. But no one talks about what they’re actually learning.”

    number 2;

    Starting at the end of the year, some 1.3 million people who have been out of work and receiving benefits for longer than 26 weeks (or less, in some states) will lose those benefits immediately.
    Then, over the course of the year, other unemployed workers will fall out of the program once they hit 26 weeks (or less). All told, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities estimates that 4.9 million people will get less unemployment aid than they would under an extension:
    to renew the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program for another year,
    would cost roughly $25.2 billion.
    money that will be put in to the economy,
    conservatives don’t want to spend $25.2 billion to extend the program unless it’s offset by cuts elsewhere. “What is it coupled with? How is it paid for? Are there reforms in how it’s being administered?,”

    my local newspaper ran those story’s.
    most of you by now know my position on a variety of topics,
    and it pissed me off.
    in Illinois, the state unemployment is 8.2 % (seasonally adjusted)
    in my area, (a Red voting county.)
    unemployment is 10.6 % (seasonally adjusted)
    i know these men and women,grew up with them, raised some Hell with, and recently
    buried a few ,
    who worked hard and saved ,
    who raised families, sent the kids to collage,served their Country
    attend Church services, pay tax’s and vote.
    and i think you know many like them ,
    to be out of work. with few real jobs to find.
    every week has a local business or store closing or laying off.
    we have a labor force with no were to go.
    manufacturing, new housing, or new hiring is practically non existent.
    and only one Walmart for all to re-enter work ,part time “jobs”.
    for years,Chicago and the Democrat Governors are mostly responsible.
    its not Detroit yet, but i think i saw a tumble weed blow down Main street.
    and if you ask,its majority White middle class.
    don’t judge all for what some abuse.
    thank you for listening

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