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The S&L ‘Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves

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This article was posted by Steve on Friday, June 21st, 2013. Comments are currently closed.

25 Responses to “The S&L ‘Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves”

  1. Mithrandir says:

    I’m so disgusted, I can’t focus on just one thing to complain about right now. -This is a true rarity for me.

  2. Petronius says:

    2013 MLB Southern All-Stars:

    C – Buster Posey (SF) Leesburg, GA .313 8 HR
    1B – Chris Davis (BAL) Longview, TX .336 27
    2B – Matt Carpenter (STL) Galveston, TX .315 5
    3B – David Wright (NYM) Norfolk, VA .302 11
    SS – J. J. Hardy (BAL) Tucson, AZ .274 15
    LF – Matt Holliday (STL) Stillwater, OK .275 11
    CF – Michael Cuddyer (COL) Chesapeake, VA .333 10
    RF – Jay Bruce (CIN) Beaumont, TX .275 16

    RHP – Adam Wainwright (STL) Brunswick, GA 2.37 10-4
    RHP – Shelby Miller (STL) Houston, TX 2.08 8-4
    RHP – Justin Verlander (DET) Manakin, VA 3.72 8-5
    LHP – Cliff Lee (PHI) Benton, AR 2.53 9-2
    LHP – Matt Moore (TB) Ft Walton Beach, FL 4.13 9-3
    LHP – Clayton Kershaw (LAD) Dallas, TX 2.06 5-5
    LHP – Chris Sale (CWX) Lakeland, FL 2.69 5-6
    LHP – Mike Minor (ATL) Chapel Hill, TN 2.89 8-3
    LHP – Madison Bumgarner (SF) Hickory, NC 3.25 7-4
    RHP (DL) – Clay Buchholz (BOS) Nederland, TX 1.71 ERA 9-0 W-L

    Relief Pitchers
    RHP – Craig Kimbrel (ATL) Huntsville, AL 1.65 ERA 2-1-20 W-L-S
    RHP – Greg Holland (KC) Morgantown, NC 2.08 2-1-15
    RHP – Joe Nathan (TX) Houston, TX 1.78 1-0-23
    RHP – Jon Papelbon (PHI) Baton Rouge LA 1.95 1-0-14

    C – Matt Wieters (BAL) Charleston, SC .233 9 HR
    1B – Mitch Moreland (TEX) Amory, MS .287 12
    2B – Ian Kinsler (TEX) Tucson, AZ .303 7
    3B – Josh Donaldson (OAK) Pensacola, FL .305 10
    SS – Zach Cozart (CIN) Memphis, TN .248 7
    LF – Seth Smith (OAK) Jackson, MS .277 6
    CF – Colby Rasmus (TOR) Columbus, GA .246 13
    RF – Hunter Pence (SF) Fort Worth, TX .290 11

    MGR – Bruce Bochy (SF) Falls Church, VA
    Coaches – Davey Johnson (WAS) Orlando, FL; Buck Showalter (BAL) DeFuniak Springs, FL

    Vote now and vote often.

    stats current thru 6-21-2013

  3. Noyzmakr says:

    I was flipping through the channels waiting for the NASCAR race to begin and came across this Gabriel Gomez who’s running for the open senate seat in Mass. against Markey. He was going on and on about how he disagrees with republicans on several issues. He’s for gay marriage. He believes in man made global warming. Blah, blah, blah….

    My question is; why would anyone, in a state that is 75% registered demoncrats, vote for him? Damn man! There’s a reason why that other RINO Scott Brown lost. People voted for Brown the first time because he was going to be the vote that stopped Obamacare. Then he went all wishy washy and they got rid of his ass. You have to give the people a choice. Not liberal-lite. Why would the libs in Mass. vote for a half-assed liberal when they can get a full blown case of Elizabeth Warren? Give them a real choice and I bet they would choose a hardcore conservative. These idiot republicans think if they just water down the message, independents will like them. I guarantee you, if given the choice between a real conservative reformer and that scumbag Markey, conservatism would win easily.

    We have got to rid the party of these consultants. They’re only in it for the money and I firmly believe most of them are progressive plants.

    I’m starting to hate the republican party even more than the demoncrats. They know the truth but choose the path of least resistance which always leads to complacency. They’re only in it for themselves. They don’t really care about the people and couldn’t care less for the country. They believe they can manage the collapse with their nose in the trough growing fatter on the sweat of us suckers.

    Listen and understand this message GOP. Your days are numbered. You have 18 months to prove you are worthy of our continued support. No more compromising with the ruling class. No more just getting by. No longer will no one be held responsible. Either the GOP in Washington starts holding this criminal regime accountable or we will hold them accountable.

    One false move and you’ll all be toast.


    I’ve had it!

    • Mithrandir says:

      Well golly-gee Noyzmakr! You’re finally starting to “get it.”
      ~Republicans like to bash their own party, so the media will like them. (McCain, Jeb Bush, Colin Powell, assorted RINOs)
      ~The Republicans only put forth a moderate simply because they think he has a chance, and they also want to get the small government-types out of contention.
      ~There is no clear difference between the socialist 2-party cabal running D.C. I mean, when you have routinely, an 85-15 voting majority in the Senate, there is no chance real Conservatism is going to win-out there.

      ►Difference between Republican and Democrat◄

      ►Republicans only talk tough.
      ►Republicans LOVE being the 2nd banana, underdog, compromiser in Washington.
      ►Republicans do not really believe in their own party platform.
      ►Republicans believe in everything the democrats believe in.
      ►Are willing to go with whomever has the biggest name in the biz, or who has the most time in rank, which is how George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain were selected.

      ◄Actually force through what they intend to force through. (can’t argue with results)
      ◄Keep a point system so that only those that prove themselves, are funded and move up through the ranks, TRUSTED/PROVEN RADICALS ONLY! (I think it was Wisconsin teacher protest 2 years ago, a democrat showed up with a clipboard to see which protester was going to get arrested. –points!)
      ◄Of the 8-10 Presidential candidates, 100% are proven radicals, leaving no mistake who will represent the party.
      ◄Have already discussed theory, and strategy among themselves, and have NO INTEREST in debating philosophy/ideology with Republicans. Their only interaction with Republicans is to trick them into agreeing with closed-door socialist democrat policy that was hammered out almost a century ago.

      *Just to prove how big-government Republicans really are, the latest example is the issue surrounding Edward Snowden. The Republicans can’t get on television fast enough to denounce Edward for “breaking the law” by reporting on the government breaking the law.
      1. He embarrassed the Obama administration—-WHO CARES?
      2. Gave Republicans the ideological TALKING POINT of the century, detailing the flaws of big, out-of-control government! Gave us the playbook complete with the outlines and plays! Laid the smoking gun right in Republican’s lap, complete with incriminating fingerprints! GAVE IT ALL AWAY, and still the Republicans are out there gripping, threatening, and hand-wringing……OMG! WHY?

      Obama wanted a transparent government, and Wikileaks and Snowden gave it to Republicans, and they look at the evidence, and don’t even know what they have. Republicans just go out there and defend Obama and big government until they are hoarse. It just doesn’t make any sense at all.
      Meanwhile, every event large and small, every speech, every news, comedy show, guest dinner, professor’s lecture—EVERYTHING is an opportunity to bash/jab/poke Republicans in the eye, meanwhile, Bill Clinton’s crew left pornography all over the White House before they left, Republicans refused to jab them, all these scandals swirling around, and Republicans refuse to jab them, Ted Kennedy killed his mistress, Republicans refuse to jab them. Rev Jessie Jackson has a child with his mistress, and Republicans refuse to jab them. Snowden reveals the playbook, and Republicans refuse to jab them. —terrible!

    • Noyzmakr says:

      Weak as water! That’s what my mother would have said. Weak as water!

      This wasn’t some epiphany. I’ve been gradually allowing myself to realize the truth all along. I just didn’t want to face that there is really very few people in Washington who really believe what the founding documents outlined.

      This country was founded by men and women who believed in principles that were handed down by Almighty God and were fashioned for a people who were willing to regulate themselves, without an overpowering government to make them obey the inner laws of morality and ethics. I’m not sure which came first, the chicken or the egg. That is to say, did the people lose their morals or did the progressives legislate them out of existance?

      Now, one party has robbed the people of all guidance in ethics and morality and the other stood by and offered only lipservice. Power and money is all that matters to any of them. Even the ones we see as trying to do the right thing. They’re in it for themselves too.

      I’m pretty sure no one can be bothered to do anything about it because almost everyone has there hand in the till in one way or another.

      Goverment contractors, cronnies, welfare cheats, disability cheats, food stampers, medicare and medicaid recipients, farm subsidies, corporate welfare and on and on and on. Everyone wants to change the system but no one wants to give up their piece of the pie. Don’t take it from my back yard.

      There is a cure for this disease if there could be found any brave souls willing to administer the medicine.

    • heykev says:

      Just look at the cycle of Judges in the OT:
      Step 1: The people forsook God’s instructions.
      Step 2: God sends an oppressor.
      Step 3: The people cry out to the Lord for help.
      Step 4: God delivers the people.
      Step 5: The people prosper until the Judge dies and the people return to their evil ways (step 1).

      Similarly, we had Reagan. I just pray it’s not too late US as ultimately it did not end well for that nation.

    • yadayada says:

      heykev – –
      the isrealites cycle is the four S’s:


      if the US ever supplicates……who knows?

  4. mr_bill says:

    I was thinking about all the Hillary 2016 hype that’s going around and I came upon an interesting idea. I think Allen West should run for president as a democrat against Hillary “what difference does it make” Clinton. Just think about what might happen.

    • Noyzmakr says:

      Hillary will be 67 years old the day of the 2016 election. Does anyone think that the superficial youth and self absorbed women of America could overcome their Cosmotolitan magazine view of the world long enough to vote for a haggard old bitch.

      I doubt it. The press and especially Hillary may think it’s her “turn” but her negatives are way to high to ever be elected.

      But of course, the reublicans will nominate some spineless RINO and the base won’t turn out again and she’ll win.

      Only if Ted Cruz turns out to be the real deal will this country survive another decade.

      I suspect the Great Tribulation will be over by then anyway.

    • Noyzmakr says:

      Excuse me. Hillary will be 68 years fat and ugly on Oct. 26, 2016.

    • GetBackJack says:

      Don’t hand me straight lines like that, Noyz

    • Noyzmakr says:

      I’m not quite George Burns but I can deliver a line with a straight face.

  5. canary says:

    I think the Mexican President should work with the US in getting the best citizens of Mexico back to their country.
    These are the Mexican citizens that would work hard to make Mexico into a great prosperous country like the USA. The Mexican President wouldn’t even have to interview them for the best jobs in Mexico. They would come back and help their families too lessening the burden of those left behind in Mexico. Their training in the US would be a great access. They still wave their Mexican flags showing their loyalty to Mexico. And the immigrants would bring their baby’s back to Mexico growing an entire new generation of educated people to make Mexico a grande country.

    • Noyzmakr says:

      The Mexicans aren’t about to kill the goose that laid the golden welfare check. A large sector of the Mexican economy can be traced back to money sent from their citizens living in the US back to meh-ee-co. They have the best of both worlds. They earn 1st world wages and their family gets to spend it at 3rd world prices.

      I’ve traveled in Mexico. I drove across the country from Nuevo-Laredo to Puerto- Vallarta and back.


      I understand why they are coming here. I would do the same if my family was in the same position. My problem is they are bringing their problems with them in the form of their socialistic political views. They voted for socialists in Mexico and they have ruined that country. Now they’re coming to America to finish the job the “republocrats” started. (see what I did there? …lol)

      It’s sort of like how yankee liberals come to the south, bringing their politics with them, and ruining our communities with liberalism at the same time they are fleeing the poverty and violence those same policies created up north.

      I can do without either.

    • canary says:

      Add the US importing more goods from Mexico and sending more and more American jobs and companies to Mexico.

      I guess we could call this this the first Spanish Spring as they pour over the border and demand
      a revolution.

  6. canary says:

    6 year old boy who believes he’s a girl was discriminated against for not able to socialize the same as other little girls do in the restroom.


    Probably one of those girls that doesn’t shut the door when he pees.

  7. Mithrandir says:

    U.S. Government Can’t Catch Edward Snowden

    ~Stymied by RED TAPE.
    ~Other governments not cooperative.
    ~Claims the U.S. didn’t fill out their paperwork properly.
    ~Extradition claims IGNORED.
    ~Given the run-around with excuses.

    Gee, it’s almost as if our government got the same thing they have always given us.

    • Noyzmakr says:

      Communist bureaucracies are more practiced at inefficiencies but in the past communist dictators feared us enough not to ignore us.

      Now they niether fear nor respect us. They just see us as a vunerable population with an inexperienced and naive narcisist man-child as president.

      We’re doomed.

  8. canary says:

    The IRA has been spending taxpayers money on porno movies and expensive booze while traveling.

  9. canary says:

    Saw Hillary’s policy making Muslim assistant’s husband Anthony Wiener’s TV add running for NY Mayor. He said he’s been working for the working class his entire life. huh?

    his entire life? Played on the University hocky team and initially aspired to become a television weatherman?

    Then he befriended future comic Jon Stewart and they shared wiener and fart jokes which carried on to Wiener’s stint in Congress where tweeting his wiener got him fired.

    If he wins his policy making wife with relatives in the Muslim Brotherhood will probably where the pants under her dress and make the policies.

  10. canary says:

    The Washington Times” Benghazi Attack Suspect Walks: Libyans Release Key Player in Consulate Ambush

    By Bill Gertz – The Washington Free Beacon – 06-27-2013

    Faraj al Chalabi, (also spelled Shibli) an al Qaeda terrorist also linked to the 1994 terrorist murder of two German tourists, was detained by the Tripoli government in March.

    However, al Chalabi was released June 12 based on claims that there was a lack of evidence to hold him custody.

    A U.S. official said the U.S. government has evidence al Chalabi was linked to the Benghazi attack but did not provide that information to the Libyan government. It could not be learned why the evidence was not used to hold the suspect.

    An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment on al Chalabi’s release.

    U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three others Americans were killed after dozens of al Qaeda-linked terrorists attacked the compound and a nearby CIA facility.

    He was imprisoned in Libya’s Abu-Salim Prison and was released on Feb. 15, two days before the start of the revolution that toppled Libyan strongman Muammar Gadhafi.

    He was then deported to Libya and arrested by Libyan security authorities at the Tripoli airport and taken to a military police prison.

    He said in the published interview that FBI agents interrogated him and accused him of being one of the planners of the attack, but not the central planner.

    Al Chalabi said a judge ruled that there was no evidence against him and allowed him to be released, adding that he believed “the Americans did not want to do so.”

    But so far the FBI has failed to apprehend any of the attackers.

    Meanwhile, reports continued to show that al Qaeda terrorists are moving into Benghazi.

    Al Chalabi was not one of the six people whose photos were posted on the FBI’s web site last month as part of its Benghazi probe.

    The FBI posted surveillance video images of six men it suspects in the attacks on the diplomatic compound.


    “…al Qaeda-linked terrorists attacked the compound and a nearby CIA facility.”

    Perhaps the CIA facility is why the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton’s past experience
    with Bill is why US security was removed prior to the 9/11 Benghazi attack and begging for more security was ignored.

  11. canary says:

    A Islamic Terrorist Scholar banned from US meets with White House and Bill Gates to discuss global environmental and health issues. Is Gates done with toilets in Africa already?

    FOX News: Official confirms, defends White House meeting with controversial Muslim scholar

    June 27, 2013

    The official was responding to a report on Wednesday from The Investigative Project on Terrorism, which uncovered a statement on the website of Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayyah claiming he met June 13 with Obama administration officials at the White House.

    Bin Bayyah is vice president of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, a group founded by Egyptian cleric Yusuf Qaradawi — a Muslim Brotherhood leader who has called for the death of Jews and Americans and himself is banned from visiting the U.S.

    But the official said they were there to discuss poverty, global health efforts and Bin Bayyah’s own efforts to speak out against Al Qaeda.

    He has also worked with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and other groups on global health issues.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/27/official-confirms-defends-white-house-meeting-with-controversial-muslim-scholar/#ixzz2XUXwIygn

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