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The S&L ‘Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves

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This article was posted by Steve on Friday, July 5th, 2013. Comments are currently closed.

9 Responses to “The S&L ‘Hive’ – Please Talk Amongst Yourselves”

  1. Noyzmakr says:

    TV and movies have so desensitised people that I can forsee that there would be an audience for the “Abortion Channel”. Hell, it’s only been ten years since some people wanted Timothy McVeigh’s execution televised. Attorney General John Ashcroft nipped that in the bud. Does anyone think AG Eric Holder wouldn’t broadcast Rush Limbaugh’s execution for treason if he could get away with it?

    I watched these videos last night. They’re a little dated but appropriate to the subject.

    Hollywood Unmasked

    Hollywood Unmasked 2

    It’s amazing how these, knowingly or not, satanically influenced degenerates, perverts, whores and heroin addicts have slowly, in less than 100 years, dragged our once naive and innocent, but by no means perfect culture into something that must mirror some parts of hell.

    They’ve brought us New Age religions, slasher films, pornography and such a wide array of perversions that there isn’t the space on this site to list them all. All in the name of “entertainment”. Our children can quote Kanye West and Jay-Z but can’t quote a single verse of the good book.

    I’ve been considering what last weeks SCOTUS opinions will bring in the culture other than the obvious homosexual kinks. Many people say it will lead to polygamy or beastieality. I’m sure that’s true but I see this culture going further. Sinking to the depths of the Greeks and Romans. The next logical step is Pedophilia. That will be the next “civil right”. It may take a little time, but they will demand their right to your all children.

    Besides, it takes a village….

    • Petronius says:

      We have to be careful about comparing modern America to ancient Rome as we run the risk of being grossly unfair to the Romans.

  2. Noyzmakr says:

    I was considering, this independence holiday, where we are in the history of this country. Contemplating the IRS and NSA scandals. And I went back and read many of the quotes of the founders and how many of them stressed that this country was founded on Christian values. How that the freedom we possessed can only be trusted to people who are moral and ethical. Christians, following the principles layed down by the Almighty and demonstrated by Jesus, are for the most part, a well mannered people who don’t need oppressive overseers or ethical managers.

    People left to their own devices are basically evil and sinful without the guiding influence of Judeo-Christian priciples. This is why democracy cannot work in countries and among people who do not adhere to such values and it’s also why these democracies are failing both here and in Europe. People believing they can live without the influence of the God’s laws are lacking that moral mirror that shows them they are not the good and decent beings they falsely believe themselves to be.

    Yesterday, as I listened to the singing of our National Anthem, I noticed, embarrassingly for the first time, that many verses are questions. The last verse was especially eye opening.

    Oh, say! does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    Judging how that this nation has fallen so far, so fast away from Christianity there can only be one answer to that question.

    NO! There are many brave but we are no longer free.

  3. Rusty Shackleford says:

    DUI checkpoints & how they are birthing our police state.


    I thought I’d help this video go viral. A July 4th incident that I get to see in the Carolinas a lot. Not sure if these little Nazis are North or South Carolina “troopers” but they really dig the complete ensemble. They can’t seem to connect the dots in their own heads about constitutionality vs. illegal search and seizure.

    The 21 year old driver did nothing wrong, nothing to warrant the detaining, was never communicated with in a civil manner, the police simply steamrolled him. Once they realized they were on camera, they moved it, shut up and probably realized they were in deep ca-ca.

    I think being recorded is probably the best cure for such arrogance.

    • Noyzmakr says:

      I watched this video about 5am Saturday morning. That’s a pretty typical NC DWI checkpoint. Nothing will happen to them. Even if they get fired, they’ll go to work at some other department.

      We had one State Trooper who was caught on tape kicking his K-9 drug dog while it hung by a chain. He was fired and the courts ordered the state to pay him back wages for a couple of years and pay his lawyer fees. The court ruled he was wrongfully terminated. It seems he was following the training manual.

      Some of these “good ole boys” are real assholes. Several guys I went to school with became Deputy Sheriffs or local police. My next door neighbor became the Cheif of Police for our small town for a short while until he went back to work for the county. They did all the same drugs and drinking that I and others did. Even after they joined the force. They would bust people just to get their drugs for their own personal parties. The little power they had went straight to their heads and they tormented people they grew up with. Only one of the seven guys I know that chose that career turned out to be a decent cop (The Chief). The rest were as corrupt as any IRS bureaucrat. Three of them are now on disabilty and another is bagging groceries. The other two are NC State Troopers!

      A favored tactic the NC State Troopers employed some years back was to place a large sign on the Interstate hwy that read; “DWI checkpoint ahead” and just past the sign there would be an exit. Take a guess at where the checkpoint was. Yep, you got it first guess. Supposedly there is a federal law that prohibits the blocking of interstate highways for random checkpoints such as these. So, if you just kept straight you would never see any checkpoint. But most knuckleheads with something to hide would take that first exit and Wam! Bam! Thank you, Maam! you’re busted.

      DWI convictions in NC are worst than manslaughter in some states. Loss of license for a year, high fines, large increase in insurance premiums, probation, 7 days in county jail, breath-a-lizers on your car before it will start and all the exspenses that go with that and classes at the local rip off center alchohol and drug rehab center. Everyone has their hand in your pocket.

      MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) are entrenched in this state. I don’t recommend that anyone drink and drive through NC. They’ll put you under the jail if there are no crucifixes available.

  4. captstubby says:

    saw this just the other day;

    Comment:” It was reported that military dogs always have a rank one higher
    than their handler. That way if the dog is mistreated, it is considered
    an assault on a superior officer, a major offense.”

    “Military dogs don’t have ranks, they have classifications. And an assault on another soldier is an assault. An assault on an officer or a superior is serious in that if it’s someone above you in your chain-of-command, and motivated by retaliation for being disciplined, or as part of an escalation of disobeying orders, it is very serious. But mistreatment of a dog by a handler is a serious offense no matter what, and there is no need to give the dog a rank that is meaningless, to prevent a carefully screened and trained handler from mistreating it. If superior rank were all that stood between a dog and mistreatment by its handler, then something is seriously wrong.”

    and this,
    “SGT” Stubby. He started out as a mascot for a WWI infantry division, and after his first exposure to gas, became sensitive to it, and would bark, and go a little nuts at the first smell of it, before any of the soldiers were aware of it. That was the beginning of his actual work as a military dog, and after that, the soldiers started referring to him as “Sergeant Stubby,” calling it a “field promotion,” but he wasn’t an NCO in any real sense.
    no relation.
    I’m not THAT OLD.

    • canary says:

      Correct military dogs do not have rank. The military doesn’t even have to bring the dogs back to the states. They are trying to get military dogs more rights to make sure they come back. Plus the military are trying to bring back pet dogs, but it’s at great expense.

      I remember when it used to be a crime to attack or kill a police dog as they are considered police personnel.

      What’s really interesting was in WWII a horse they caught and trained to carry heavy cannons and stay still when they fired it, the horse ran back and forth carrying , and carry injured, and carry heavy ammunition. It was brought back to the states and had some baby’s and then died. Some high ranking officer had the pull to transport it back to the US.

      I think most that become police officers are bullies and want to be able to legally and illegally bully people. I think police are corrupt everywhere in the US. And it’s best to go along with them because it’s a losing battle. There are some good cops, but they can’t really do anything about the bad cops. The corruption is just mind blowing because of the brotherhood code.

  5. canary says:

    TheDailyProgress: ABC says it’s reviewing arrest of UVa student who bought bottled water

    Jun 28 2013 – Liana Bayne

    State Alcoholic Beverage Control officials said Friday that they’re reviewing an incident in which agents arrested a University of Virginia student on felony charges after she attempted to flee officers who suspected a crate of bottled water to be a case of beer.

    Prosecutors on Thursday dropped the charges against Elizabeth Daly, 20, saying no one was hurt and describing her as having panicked at the sight of plainclothes agents who approached her and two roommates at about 10:15 p.m. April 11 outside the Harris Teeter store in the Barracks Road Shopping Center.

    Daly’s SUV struck two agents, an ABC statement said Friday.

    ABC spokeswoman Kathleen Shaw said in the agency statement released Friday afternoon that agents were working the area that night, concentrating on underage possession enforcement. Shaw said a female agent saw “what appeared to be an underage person in possession of what appeared to be a case of beer.”

    As the drama unfolded, roughly a half-dozen agents responded, according to authorities. In a written statement Thursday, Daly described the badges as “unidentifiable.” She said she and her friends were unsure of who the agents were.

    “One of the men … drew a gun,” said Daly, who is from Henrico County. “Our panic heightened.”
    She stopped the SUV for an agent driving a vehicle with lights and sirens, and apologized when she realized the agents were law enforcement officers, according to prosecutors.

    Daly said she and her roommates were “terrified” after being approached while carrying a blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water along with cookie dough and ice cream purchased for a fundraiser.

    Authorities charged Daly with two counts of assaulting a law enforcement officer and one count of eluding police, all Class 6 felonies carrying a maximum penalty of five years in prison and $2,500 in fines per offense.

    A friend in the front seat of the SUV recently had heard stories from dozens of sexual assault survivors at an annual Take Back the Night vigil on UVa Grounds and was on edge, Daly’s defense attorney, Francis McQ. Lawrence, said Thursday. The friend urged Daly to “go, go, go,” court records state.

    “They were not in anything close to a uniform,” Daly said in her written account.

    “I couldn’t put my windows down unless I started my car, and when I started my car they began yelling to not move the car, not to start the car.

    They began trying to break the windows.

    The women dialed 911 while pulling out of the parking lot to report what was happening and to ask whether the agents were officers, Daly said. She said she was planning to drive to a police station.

    Charlottesville Commonwealth’s Attorney Dave Chapman said Thursday that he’d never encountered a similar situation in 34 years of experience.

    “It wouldn’t be the right thing to do to prosecute this,” he said.
    The process, he said, ultimately yielded an appropriate resolution.


    Glad to hear these stories. My electric window is broke and won’t roll down. I need to carry a sign to hold up to it that says “My window is broken. Please use passenger window”

  6. Petronius says:

    Canary, thanks for posting this story.

    The Barracks Road Shopping Center is a major shopping center in Charlottesville, about 2 or 3 blocks from the UVA Law School (where our daughter is a student) and the US Army JAG School.

    The shopping center is about one-half mile long. The ABC Store is at the north end near Barracks Road, and the Harris Teeter is about 500 yards away, near the south end near Arlington Blvd. Can’t imagine what the ABC fuzz were doing at the Harris Teeter.

    Our daughter was walking to her car in the parking lot in front of Harris Teeter a few months ago when she was struck in broad daylight by a black SUV with blacked-out windows. Fortunately she was not seriously injured.

    Where are the cops when you need them? Now we know — they’re trying to arrest girls for buying bottled water and cookie dough. Typical.

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