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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157984</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs Reason shops at Whole Foods because she gets to spend twice as much for the same products.

Plus the hippies are very nice to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs Reason shops at Whole Foods because she gets to spend twice as much for the same products.</p>
<p>Plus the hippies are very nice to her.</p>
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		<title>By: Confucius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157979</link>
		<dc:creator>Confucius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stuck,

My thoughts exactly.  The Whole Foods in my town is full of hippies and elitest DINKS.  The parking lot is filled with--yep, you guesed it--Volvo&#039;s, Prius&#039;s and Land Rovers.

Personally, I shop there because they have inexpensive tofu, tempeh and sesame oil.  (I also enjoy parking my 12-year-old gas-guzziling V8 next to a 9V Prius.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stuck,</p>
<p>My thoughts exactly.  The Whole Foods in my town is full of hippies and elitest DINKS.  The parking lot is filled with&#8211;yep, you guesed it&#8211;Volvo&#8217;s, Prius&#8217;s and Land Rovers.</p>
<p>Personally, I shop there because they have inexpensive tofu, tempeh and sesame oil.  (I also enjoy parking my 12-year-old gas-guzziling V8 next to a 9V Prius.)</p>
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		<title>By: wardmama4</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157964</link>
		<dc:creator>wardmama4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point here (startling as it is) is that in America a dream can become a vision which can then become a reality and everyone (owner, store employees and customers) can profit.

That is #1 lie of the Obama Administration that many have bought - _________(fill in the blank, CEOs, Insurance, Big Pharma etc) are greedy, evil, etc - except that it is essentially a barter, a deal - you give them money and you get a product/service. . .Government takes our money - at ever increasing rates - and it is appearing that those who do little or nothing are getting a bigger return than those who provide the most money - and we certainly get a shoddy product/service - and in the mean time the government is attempting to squash all alternatives.

I was miffed as Whole Foods (locally) has No Carry Signs - I thought it was a touchy-feelly hippie thing - and then realized it was due to the alcohol in the stores - now that I&#039;ve read this - Whole Foods is back as one of my stores. 

I sent many of his ideas to my D (as in dumb) &#039;representative&#039; - he responded with the exact same response he sent me - before my ideas as to solutions - other than a government takeover of healthcare - so I know how he is going to vote - despite the fact that after his first &#039;town hall&#039; meeting - he has canceled and/or turned them into invite only - to dismiss the majority of his constituents that are against the &#039;healthcare reform&#039;. 

So much for being a true representative of his constituents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point here (startling as it is) is that in America a dream can become a vision which can then become a reality and everyone (owner, store employees and customers) can profit.</p>
<p>That is #1 lie of the Obama Administration that many have bought &#8211; _________(fill in the blank, CEOs, Insurance, Big Pharma etc) are greedy, evil, etc &#8211; except that it is essentially a barter, a deal &#8211; you give them money and you get a product/service. . .Government takes our money &#8211; at ever increasing rates &#8211; and it is appearing that those who do little or nothing are getting a bigger return than those who provide the most money &#8211; and we certainly get a shoddy product/service &#8211; and in the mean time the government is attempting to squash all alternatives.</p>
<p>I was miffed as Whole Foods (locally) has No Carry Signs &#8211; I thought it was a touchy-feelly hippie thing &#8211; and then realized it was due to the alcohol in the stores &#8211; now that I&#8217;ve read this &#8211; Whole Foods is back as one of my stores. </p>
<p>I sent many of his ideas to my D (as in dumb) &#8216;representative&#8217; &#8211; he responded with the exact same response he sent me &#8211; before my ideas as to solutions &#8211; other than a government takeover of healthcare &#8211; so I know how he is going to vote &#8211; despite the fact that after his first &#8216;town hall&#8217; meeting &#8211; he has canceled and/or turned them into invite only &#8211; to dismiss the majority of his constituents that are against the &#8216;healthcare reform&#8217;. </p>
<p>So much for being a true representative of his constituents.</p>
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		<title>By: BillK</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157952</link>
		<dc:creator>BillK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the most instructive quote from above is:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover. These mandates have increased the cost of health insurance by billions of dollars. What is insured and what is not insured should be determined by individual customer preferences and not through special-interest lobbying.&lt;/b&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is precisely the &lt;b&gt;opposite&lt;/b&gt; of what ObamaCare will do.  It will mandate coverage and at what levels, and you will not even be allowed to offer a private health plan unless it mandates coverage for what the &lt;b&gt;Government&lt;/b&gt; feels is appropriate.

About as far from &quot;lowering costs&quot; as you can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the most instructive quote from above is:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover. These mandates have increased the cost of health insurance by billions of dollars. What is insured and what is not insured should be determined by individual customer preferences and not through special-interest lobbying.&lt;/b</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Which is precisely the <b>opposite</b> of what ObamaCare will do.  It will mandate coverage and at what levels, and you will not even be allowed to offer a private health plan unless it mandates coverage for what the <b>Government</b> feels is appropriate.</p>
<p>About as far from &#8220;lowering costs&#8221; as you can get.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been pondering a similar proposal.  Say we gave some middle ground for a much smaller entitlement program. I envision an optional high deductible emergency plan that covers almost everything after say $10-15K. People can enroll in this plan for $20-30 a month with phased tax credits to cover those who really can&#039;t afford even that much.  Then the government makes employer contributions to HSAs tax deductible for employers (or even double deductible). For those unemployed and  have no HSA, they should seek help from charity medical services. Donations to these organizations could be double deductible from personal and corporate taxes as well. The benefits of this idea are that everyone would have access to this without restrictions (as long as they file a W4) so no more uninsured except by choice. And also it would spur the economy as HSA money is invested by the banks. I do not like the idea of government doing a job it was never meant to do but this way it removes the concept of control. Obviously there would need to be some companion restrictions that allow employees to choose to have this coverage instead of some block standard rate. 
Anyways, I think this blog has some of the smartest people I know reading it. If you have two cents on this idea I would love to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been pondering a similar proposal.  Say we gave some middle ground for a much smaller entitlement program. I envision an optional high deductible emergency plan that covers almost everything after say $10-15K. People can enroll in this plan for $20-30 a month with phased tax credits to cover those who really can&#8217;t afford even that much.  Then the government makes employer contributions to HSAs tax deductible for employers (or even double deductible). For those unemployed and  have no HSA, they should seek help from charity medical services. Donations to these organizations could be double deductible from personal and corporate taxes as well. The benefits of this idea are that everyone would have access to this without restrictions (as long as they file a W4) so no more uninsured except by choice. And also it would spur the economy as HSA money is invested by the banks. I do not like the idea of government doing a job it was never meant to do but this way it removes the concept of control. Obviously there would need to be some companion restrictions that allow employees to choose to have this coverage instead of some block standard rate.<br />
Anyways, I think this blog has some of the smartest people I know reading it. If you have two cents on this idea I would love to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Gillman</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Gillman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh.. I hope they don&#039;t know.. for his sake...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh.. I hope they don&#8217;t know.. for his sake&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Gillman</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157942</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Gillman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It IS true..  The best efforts of my &quot;hippie&quot; teachers (Whom I loved dearly) to move me along in the common good movement were squashed when I had to collect for my paper route when I was 11.  You had to pay for the papers when you delivered, and I developed little sympathy for folks who peeked around their curtains when I went to their door for payment and pretended not to be home.  Those who did, had to pay forward if they wanted any papers from then on out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It IS true..  The best efforts of my &#8220;hippie&#8221; teachers (Whom I loved dearly) to move me along in the common good movement were squashed when I had to collect for my paper route when I was 11.  You had to pay for the papers when you delivered, and I developed little sympathy for folks who peeked around their curtains when I went to their door for payment and pretended not to be home.  Those who did, had to pay forward if they wanted any papers from then on out.</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel1961</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157941</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonel1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God bless him - love it!  Wish we had a Whole Foods in my hometown...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless him &#8211; love it!  Wish we had a Whole Foods in my hometown&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: curvyred</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157934</link>
		<dc:creator>curvyred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because it isn&#039;t really about reducing cost, but about increasing control and dependency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because it isn&#8217;t really about reducing cost, but about increasing control and dependency.</p>
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		<title>By: NotStuckOnStupid</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157932</link>
		<dc:creator>NotStuckOnStupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, great read!  I lived near Austin for many years.  Who&#039;d a thunk the Whole Foods guy would be conservative?  You&#039;d never know it, wandering through the original Whole Foods market in downtown Austin.  A quagmire of elites and hippies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, great read!  I lived near Austin for many years.  Who&#8217;d a thunk the Whole Foods guy would be conservative?  You&#8217;d never know it, wandering through the original Whole Foods market in downtown Austin.  A quagmire of elites and hippies.</p>
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		<title>By: pdsand</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157925</link>
		<dc:creator>pdsand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite part of the day is when I turn on my car radio and they&#039;re joking about a young kid that tried to rob a 82 year old man and it turns out the old man was a WWII Marine and handed him his ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part of the day is when I turn on my car radio and they&#8217;re joking about a young kid that tried to rob a 82 year old man and it turns out the old man was a WWII Marine and handed him his ass.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMG</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157908</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This could get to be really entertaining.  Imagine those of us who are on the darker side of 60 years old (boomers) who will go before one of the Moron&#039;s end-of-life councilors and be told that we&#039;re &lt;b&gt;too old&lt;b&gt; to receive treatment for prostate cancer or some similar procedure.  Just go home, take some aspirin for the pain, and wait for the end to come, for we don&#039;t have the money to spend on you.  It&#039;s needed to treat some 32-year-old welfare queen.  How do you think this&#039;ll be received by a host of military veterans, when they are told by some bureaucrat that their life isn&#039;t worth prolonging?  Here&#039;s what I predict.  Said veteran will ask for another counciling session at which time he will produce one of Col. Colt&#039;s wonderful equalizers and announce to the bureaucrat that &#039;If my time&#039;s up, so is yours.  I&#039;ll see you in hell, but you get to go first&#039;.  I mean, what would he have to lose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could get to be really entertaining.  Imagine those of us who are on the darker side of 60 years old (boomers) who will go before one of the Moron&#8217;s end-of-life councilors and be told that we&#8217;re <b>too old</b><b> to receive treatment for prostate cancer or some similar procedure.  Just go home, take some aspirin for the pain, and wait for the end to come, for we don&#8217;t have the money to spend on you.  It&#8217;s needed to treat some 32-year-old welfare queen.  How do you think this&#8217;ll be received by a host of military veterans, when they are told by some bureaucrat that their life isn&#8217;t worth prolonging?  Here&#8217;s what I predict.  Said veteran will ask for another counciling session at which time he will produce one of Col. Colt&#8217;s wonderful equalizers and announce to the bureaucrat that &#8216;If my time&#8217;s up, so is yours.  I&#8217;ll see you in hell, but you get to go first&#8217;.  I mean, what would he have to lose?</b></p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obama-care#comment-157903</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t watch this Michele Bachman video if you feel really good about Obamy&#039;s Death Care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHBvKGmevI

On the congressional floor, she quotes Presidential advisors, including Rahm Emanuel&#039;s brother who states that doctors take the Hypocratic Oath too seriously.   Social Justice should be a more important factor than the patient&#039;s well-being.

In addition, Dr. Emanuel explainsthat the elderly are not subject to civil rights protections, and hence have no right to equal health care.  Nor the handicapped.  It&#039;s a cost issue you see.   If the money wasted on the old and infirm can be better spent on others, so it should be.

Fortunately, we have a genius president who, in addition to appointing Dr Emanuel as a health advisor, can use his prodigous experience and wisdom to sift through the factors and make the right decision for our 300 million person country, whether you are white or black, whether you are liberal or conservative, whether you believe white people have abused blacks for centuries or not, whether you are old and greedy or not, whether you deserve to live or not, whether you stupidly disagree with him (the president) or not.

And that&#039;s why I still feel really really good about the most major disruption in the American way of life since the great World Wars.  I want this senseless and endless 3-week debate to end.  The country is 230 years old, after all.  It&#039;s time we grew up and accepted 1000 page bills for our own good being rammed through Congress in a few hours while our representatives tend to other important business like expanding their fleet of jets.

We are certainly in good hands.  Honest hands.  Objective hands, Benevolent hands.   The loving hands of Barack Obama, with his cuddly All-american backgroun and broad life perspectives, and his many tender allies, like Barney Franks, Nancy Pelosi, and Rahn Emmanuel.

Oh, I may disagree about a detail or two.  But I know when my time comes, the bureaucrat making the life or death decision for me will be well trained.  AND fully knowledgable about the cost and social justice implications of expensive procedures which would be wasted on someone as guilty as me, or at least of the same gender and race as others who are guilty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t watch this Michele Bachman video if you feel really good about Obamy&#8217;s Death Care.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHBvKGmevI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHBvKGmevI</a></p>
<p>On the congressional floor, she quotes Presidential advisors, including Rahm Emanuel&#8217;s brother who states that doctors take the Hypocratic Oath too seriously.   Social Justice should be a more important factor than the patient&#8217;s well-being.</p>
<p>In addition, Dr. Emanuel explainsthat the elderly are not subject to civil rights protections, and hence have no right to equal health care.  Nor the handicapped.  It&#8217;s a cost issue you see.   If the money wasted on the old and infirm can be better spent on others, so it should be.</p>
<p>Fortunately, we have a genius president who, in addition to appointing Dr Emanuel as a health advisor, can use his prodigous experience and wisdom to sift through the factors and make the right decision for our 300 million person country, whether you are white or black, whether you are liberal or conservative, whether you believe white people have abused blacks for centuries or not, whether you are old and greedy or not, whether you deserve to live or not, whether you stupidly disagree with him (the president) or not.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why I still feel really really good about the most major disruption in the American way of life since the great World Wars.  I want this senseless and endless 3-week debate to end.  The country is 230 years old, after all.  It&#8217;s time we grew up and accepted 1000 page bills for our own good being rammed through Congress in a few hours while our representatives tend to other important business like expanding their fleet of jets.</p>
<p>We are certainly in good hands.  Honest hands.  Objective hands, Benevolent hands.   The loving hands of Barack Obama, with his cuddly All-american backgroun and broad life perspectives, and his many tender allies, like Barney Franks, Nancy Pelosi, and Rahn Emmanuel.</p>
<p>Oh, I may disagree about a detail or two.  But I know when my time comes, the bureaucrat making the life or death decision for me will be well trained.  AND fully knowledgable about the cost and social justice implications of expensive procedures which would be wasted on someone as guilty as me, or at least of the same gender and race as others who are guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: neocon mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>neocon mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I shared this on my facebook page. It&#039;s hard for libs to quickly dismiss anything associated with organic food retailers, plus it&#039;s well-reasoned and likely to be persuasive. 

I remember John Stossel talking about this plan on ABC some time ago .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shared this on my facebook page. It&#8217;s hard for libs to quickly dismiss anything associated with organic food retailers, plus it&#8217;s well-reasoned and likely to be persuasive. </p>
<p>I remember John Stossel talking about this plan on ABC some time ago .</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the government takeover of health care isn&#039;t about improving health care at all.

It&#039;s about government take-over.

Approaches like this, and there are dozens of them, that improve health care incrementally are the ENEMY of big government.

So they must be suppressed at all cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the government takeover of health care isn&#8217;t about improving health care at all.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about government take-over.</p>
<p>Approaches like this, and there are dozens of them, that improve health care incrementally are the ENEMY of big government.</p>
<p>So they must be suppressed at all cost.</p>
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		<title>By: uber</title>
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		<dc:creator>uber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why aren&#039;t we debating proposal like this? why hasn&#039;t anyone talked about choices that make sense, that we can afford?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why aren&#8217;t we debating proposal like this? why hasn&#8217;t anyone talked about choices that make sense, that we can afford?</p>
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