Thousands Rally In Jena To Support Hate Crime
From a delighted Associated Press:
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This photo released by the LaSalle Parish District Attorney’s Office shows Justin Barker in the hospital after he was beaten on Dec. 4, 2006 in Jena, La. Barker was treated and released from the hospital.
Thousands rally in La. to support Jena 6
By MARY FOSTER, Associated Press Writer
JENA, La. - Traffic jammed the two-lane road leading into the tiny town of Jena early Thursday as thousands of demonstrators gathered in support of six black teens initially charged with attempted murder in the beating of a white classmate.
The Rev. Al Sharpton said it could be the beginning of the 21st century’s civil rights movement, one that would challenge disparities in the justice system.
“You cannot have justice meted out based on who you are rather than what you did,” Sharpton told CBS’s “The Early Show” Thursday…
“This is the most blatant example of disparity in the justice system that we’ve seen,” Sharpton said Thursday. “You can’t have two standards of justice. We didn’t bring race in it, those that hung the nooses brought the race into it.”
District Attorney Reed Walters, breaking a long public silence, denied Wednesday that racism was involved.
He said he didn’t prosecute the students accused of hanging the nooses because he could find no Louisiana law under which they could be charged. “I cannot overemphasize what a villainous act that was. The people that did it should be ashamed of what they unleashed on this town,” Walters said.
In the beating case, he said, four of the defendants were of adult age under Louisiana law and the only juvenile charged as an adult, Mychal Bell, had a prior criminal record…
Bell, 16 at the time of the attack, is the only one of the “Jena Six” to be tried so far. He was convicted on an aggravated second-degree battery count that could have sent him to prison for 15 years, but the conviction was overturned last week when a state appeals court said he should not have been tried as an adult.
Thursday’s protest had been planned to coincide with Bell’s sentencing, but organizers decided to press ahead even after the conviction was thrown out. Bell remains in jail while prosecutors prepare an appeal. He has been unable to meet the $90,000 bond.
“We all have family members about the age of these guys. We said it could have been one of them. We wanted to try to do something,” said Angela Merrick, 36, of Atlanta, who drove with three friends from Atlanta to protest the treatment of the “Jena Six”.
The rally was heavily promoted on black Web sites, blogs, radio and publications.
Students came from schools across the region, including historically black colleges like Morehouse College, Spelman College, Clark Atlanta University, Howard University, Hampton University and Southern University.
Tina Cheatham missed the civil rights marches at Selma, Montgomery and Little Rock, but she had no intention of missing another brush with history. The 24-year-old Georgia Southern University graduate drove all night to reach tiny Jena in central Louisiana.
“It was a good chance to be part of something historic since I wasn’t around for the civil rights movement. This is kind of the 21st century version of it,” she said…
In Jena, with only 3,500 residents, some residents worried about safety. Hotels were booked from as far away as Natchez, Miss., to Alexandria, La.
Red Cross officials manned first aid stations near the local courthouse and had water and snacks on hand. Portable toilets and flashing street signs to aid in traffic direction were in place. At the courthouse troopers chatted amiably with each other and with demonstrators who began showing up well before dawn.
Sharpton, who helped organize the protest, met Bell at the courthouse Wednesday morning. He said Bell is heartened by the show of support and wants to make sure it stays peaceful.
“He doesn’t want anything done that would disparage his name — no violence, not even a negative word,” Sharpton said.
Thousands? Once again one suspects these numbers will not be visible to any camera or human eye — apart from our watchdog media.
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Andrea Blalock, left, checks out a shirt for her husband Thomas Blalock, both from Stockbridge, Ga. as they prepare for a march in support of the Jena 6 in Jena, La., Thursday, Sept. 20, 2007. Hundreds of people dressed in black, from college students to veterans of the civil rights movements, boarded buses bound for Jena and a rally Thursday in support of six black teenagers who were initially charged with attempted murder in the beating of a white classmate.
It will just be the usual suspects, including of course, the Solon Mr. Sharpton:
“You cannot have justice meted out based on who you are rather than what you did,” Sharpton told CBS’s “The Early Show” Thursday.
I agree. And to that end I would suggest Mr. Sharpton be tried and punished to the fullest extent of the law for his numerous past crimes.
But isn’t it funny how the details behind this case are slowly trickling out.
[District Attorney Reed Walters] said he didn’t prosecute the students accused of hanging the nooses because he could find no Louisiana law under which they could be charged…
In the beating case, he said, four of the defendants were of adult age under Louisiana law and the only juvenile charged as an adult, Mychal Bell, had a prior criminal record.
Of course our watchdog media has never bothered to report any of this. (Nor that the “nooses” seem to have had nothing to do with the beating, which occurred months later.)
The Southern Poverty Law Center and the other professional race baiters behind this “grassroots uprising” clearly are not able to cope with turns of events:
Thursday’s protest had been planned to coincide with Bell’s sentencing, but organizers decided to press ahead even after the conviction was thrown out.
Since the buses had been contracted, the rent-a-mob hired and the lunches and cigarettes bought, they had to go through with it.
Besides, what else do they have to do?
Red Cross officials manned first aid stations near the local courthouse and had water and snacks on hand.
Does the Red Cross cater all such demonstrations? If so, when did they start? If not, why this one?
The Red Cross is a quasi-government organization. Your tax dollars are paying for this.
But of course it is for a good cause. Picking at the scabs of non-existent racial wounds is always a good thing.
Still, given that these black kids tried to kill a white boy because of his race, why aren’t the protestors demanding stiffer penalties because it was a “hate crime”?
(Of course this is a rhetorical question. We all know blacks can’t commit hate crimes.)
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September 20th, 2007 at 11:01 am
Question for you SG. Has there ever been a case in which you agreed that there was unequal justice in regards to the treatment of a person of color? Why do you describe The Southern Poverty Law Center as a professional race baiter? Are you saying that they have served no purpose in tracking hate groups? Would you say that the criminal justice system is equal and consistent in both prosecution and sentenancing of people of color? Lastly, when unarmed Black men are shot, sodomized etc. how do you think a community should respond. Just wanted to get your thoughts on those topics.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:11 am
Question for you SG. Has there ever been a case in which you agreed that there was unequal justice in regards to the treatment of a person of color?
I am not SG, but I will answer your question.
Yes there have been examples of unequal justice.
OJ Simpson is a prime example.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:18 am
“Question for you SG. Has there ever been a case in which you agreed that there was unequal justice in regards to the treatment of a person of color?”
What a stupid question. It goes on every day.
Look at the “high toned” faces of the Cuban National Assembly the next time you get a chance.
But don’t you ever get tired of dwelling on race, Doctor? Ever?
Aren’t you worried that your race obsession will affect how you treat your patients?
September 20th, 2007 at 11:28 am
You posted an article about race so I asked you a question about race. When you posted about hymens I responded about hymens. If you didn’t want a thread on whats going on in Jena as it pertains to race than why post the article? Why are you attacking me and calling my question stupid. The reason I asked because it seems as I read through responses that many on this site seem to think that there are no instances of injustice. I just wanted your opinion. Just wanted to get some insight into what others, who don’t feel as I do think.Its all about trying to get some understanding.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:35 am
Dr. you cannot just beat someone and claim it was about race and get away with it. Could white people jump a black kid and say he called me a cracker and get away with it? NO WAY, NEVER. We have laws in our society and if blacks want to be on an equal playing field, that means they need to adhere to laws as equals. You cannot get special treatment. Get it? This kid may have permanently lost his hearing. If we want to eliminate racism and put everyone on an equal playing field, we cannot have “hate crimes” because the very definition implies they are not the same as us.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:41 am
This is way to rich. Louisiana is a state that is dominated by DEMOCRATIC politicians. Kathleen Blanco D-La the governor and Ray Nagin D-New Orleans quickly come to mind! So it’s impossible to have a hate crime in Louisiana, RIGHT?!?
September 20th, 2007 at 11:50 am
Just in case anyone has missed the shameless race-baiting and pandering coming from the Democrat candidates, we have this from the Washington Post:
September 20th, 2007 at 11:51 am
ATLien I do not disagree with you. The problem I find with many Blacks in the media who profess to speak for the masses is that they too often cry racism and injustice in situations where there is none so that when it actually occurs, Amadou Diallo and Abner Luemo, people don’t take it seriously. If this was a school yard brawl than it should be treated as such in the courts. A kid getting his ass kicked with tennis shoes at school is not attempted murder.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:52 am
Ah:
So nice to see that the speaker and her friends have family members capable of beating the cr*p out of someone for no other reason than their race.
I’d ask who the real racists are here, but we’ve been told over and over that minorities cannot be racist, only “the majority” can be
An argument which is going to have to change once Hispanics are a majority of the US population.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
“You posted an article about race so I asked you a question about race. When you posted about hymens I responded about hymens.”
Your comments about reconstructing hymens is the exception that proves the rule.
Where have you been on the female circumcision threads, for instance? Or any other threads that aren’t race related?
If you can’t see how the professional race baiters are trying to exploit this case, you are hopeless.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
A kid getting his ass kicked with tennis shoes at school is not attempted murder.
Unless it was a black kid getting his ass kicked by a bunch of white kids, Then it would be a Hate Crime, Right?
LMAO at your pitiful Racist Bull Shit.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Since Jena is near my home town of Alexandria, I did some research on this story using mulitple sources. The news coverage here in Atlanta is very slanted about the participants of the demonstration. They never go into much detail about the rest of the story. I knew of the racial problems in Jena, but wanted to get the whole story(if possible). Bottom line: Did six kids beat up one? If the answer is “yes”, what’s the problem?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
“This kid may have permanently lost his hearing. If we want to eliminate racism and put everyone on an equal playing field, we cannot have “hate crimes” because the very definition implies they are not the same as us.”
ATLien…..The kid may have permanent brain damage. My brother-in-law was robbed, mugged and assaulted outside of the auditorium, in May, going to our nephew’s graduation at UT on the UT campus. By illegal aliens. He has permanent brain damage because after they robbed him, they decided to kick him in the head repeatedly until he went unconscious because he was a “stupid gringo”. My bro-in-law has vision, equilibrium, unbearable headaches and hearing problems which has prevented him from going back to work. No one filed a ” hate crime” against them, the police department barely wanted to file an assault charges against them, just robbery charges. So, should we excuse their actions because they are just Mexicans, (here illegally), trying to make a better life in America? I see them as thugs, who steal from people for a living and don’t give a flip about who they hurt or kill. SO, THIS IS THE NEW JUSTICE IN AMERICA?
Regarding the Jena incident: Like I said before, hate is hate, it’s not about race. If a person commits a crime they should be held responsible for their actions. This trial is about what they did to the victim, not the long road that got them all to this point. This protest is not going to heal this community, it’s going to spark more anger!
September 20th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
As these adults chose to take the law into their own hands as they saw a non-prosecution of ‘white’ boys as racist and then beat up a white boy (was he one of the noose hangers, or just WPWTer) 6 blacks to 1 white - mob rule. And why adults - how many of them were high school students (the original hanging of nooses, stated ’students’ - did the school suspend them or other punishment?) - therefore it is taking the law into their own hands (can they also be charged with corruption of a minor, since that is the grounds of the 16 yr (recidivist criminal) sentence was overturned)?
But as pointed out, blacks can’t be racist, criminals or wrong. Ever.
Only whites - and that is racist.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
“This protest is not going to heal this community, it’s going to spark more anger!”
Agreed! Unfortunately, some people thrive walking around with a big ole chip on their shoulder.
There are some major racial problems in that neck of the woods and all this is going to do is throw more fuel on the fire. The fact that the crime actually occured is convienently left out.
As for this remark: “A kid getting his ass kicked with tennis shoes at school is not attempted murder.”
You must be kidding. Six against one? Please. Would you be so cavalier if this kid was your son? Just curious.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
SG Now I’m hopeless? What is with all the animosity? I do understand race baiting, but I asked you specifically about The Southern Poverty Law Center so why don’t you answer my question. I respond to threads that I have something to add otherwise I just read what you fine folks say.
1st did I say anything about a hate crime? Did I excuse what they did? I just made the observation that getting beat with a tennis shoe is not attempted murder. Getting beat with bat…yes. Tennis shoe not really. Assault definitly, attempted murder no way.What did I say that was racist?
Wardmama Who pointed out that Blacks can’t be racist, criminals or wrong? Were did you get that?
Zoomie again its about the charge not the act itself. The act is wrong and they should be delt with fairly not on elevated charges that don’t fit the crime. Just to be clear I AM NOT defending their actions.
September 20th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
“The act is wrong and they should be delt with fairly not on elevated charges that don’t fit the crime. Just to be clear I AM NOT defending their actions.”
Well, it kinda sounds like they are being dealt with FAIRLY. If my kid and five others beat the crap out of another kid, I would expect there to be severe consequences for that action. Would it make you feel better if the victim had lost his eyesight or was otherwise permanently impaired? Just because he wasn’t, doesn’t mean it couldn’t have happened. If someone fires a gun at you and misses, that makes it all ok?
I’m curious about how many of the protesters are fully informed about the facts of the case. Speaking for myself, if I was going to devote my time and resources to fighting injustice, I could find better candidates than these 6 thugs. They aren’t exactly poster boys for model citizens.
September 20th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
I’m curious about how many of the protesters are fully informed about the facts of the case.
The protesters are just in it for the cash, Same as JJ and Sharpone.
September 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
” The act is wrong and they should be delt with fairly not on elevated charges that don’t fit the crime. Just to be clear I AM NOT defending their actions.” (like the grandmother they wanted to put in jail for not watering her lawn, because she couldn’t afford it.)
drdobgyn……I’m glad we all finally agree.
It’s also okay to agree to disagree, without malice.
September 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Texas, I think you should read my post again, my point is the same as yours. Nothing can excuse what they did (the mob) . I was saying the “hangin a nuse” excuse is BS.
September 20th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
Kicking an unconscious person in the face is maybe beyond kicking their ass. As for tennis shoes, drobgyn, if you were able to maintain consciousness, and were being kicked in the face repetively, would your cogitation lead you to believe maybe there is intent to do more than assault you?
While, in the heat of the moment, people do irrational things is certainly a consideration, if someone is unresponsive and you continue to kick them what is your objective?
I’ve been sucker punched and then kicked in the face repetitively. It broke my ocular cavity and nose. I will assure that if my friends didn’t come to my rescue, and my assailants continued to kick me in the face with their tennis shoes while I was unresponsive, I would have been killed in fairly short order. So, I don’t care what color they are, if something matches the definition then so be it.
September 20th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
Well Skippy, it depends on who is doing the kicking according the good Doc.
Whitey deserves a good kicking to make up for crap that happened 200 years ago according to him.
September 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
An ass kicking is a one-on-one fight where one party is dominant.
Half a dozen persons against one is.. what’s the word? A lynching, if they could have found a piece of rope. Or a funeral if they could have found a casket.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
‘Regarding the Jena incident: Like I said before, hate is hate, it’s not about race. If a person commits a crime they should be held responsible for their actions. This trial is about what they did to the victim, not the long road that got them all to this point. This protest is not going to heal this community, it’s going to spark more anger!’
Point on Texaspsue.
I stand by my statement - the first group of ‘boys’ were Wrong - but broke no law. The second group of ‘boys’ were also Wrong but broke a law. What is -’two standards of justice’ - about that? Unless it is because of the color of the particular groups - which then makes it racist.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Yeah, wouldn’t be refreshing if there were no stigmas of race or being owed anything and we were all judged on our actions in a vacuum. Sadly, liberals take a patriarchal “poor them” mentality/philosophy and make special dispensation for “them” because they feel that “them” can’t help it because of how “them” are brought up/or whatever. Again, it’s a sad state, that perpetuates itself by the hypocrisy of liberals who hold “them” to lesser standards.
Find a conservative black, and they will voice their disapproval of this. Hell, not even a conservative, one who is intellectually honest and forth right. Patrice O’Neil is a perfect example. He rails at this institution of victimization exploited by Liberal elites of all colors and leper messiahs who sadly do a dis-service to the black race. Yeah, and Jesse Jackson says acting white? What if a prominent white leader (that’s kind of weird as they all seem to be elected not self annointed/appointed) were to say “Hilary is acting black”. There’d be holy hell to pay.
“Can’t we all just get along?”
September 20th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
This kind of action set the Civil Rights movement back two decades. Same fools doing hte same thing–pretending that low-life scum are “Mainstream Black America” and that it is honorable and decent and just for every black to emulate the KKK and kill, kill, kill whitey. The actions of the Jena 6 are exactly the KKK acts that Martin Luther King was protesting. Matter of fact, during the bad old days of the 50’s white hoodlums would ordinarily get off scott-free after beating lone black students at high schools–remember Brown vs. Board of Education, the Little Rock Nine, and Eisenhower calling out the 101st Airborne to make sure that they weren’t molested at school? Sharpton and Jackson could have offered to provide hall monitors to prevent violence. Instead, they incite more violence.
That’s real class! It will set Civil Rights back to the 50’s.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
1st what in any of my comments would make you say that I am in some way condoning what they did to that young man for things done to Blacks in the past. I had read that they were hitting them with tennis shoes not kicking them, again its about where one gets his information. Stomping on someone’s head should be attempted murder if that is indeed what happened, stomping vs hitting with a shoe.. Again none of us were there and its all about info that we get from both msm and other sources.
Damnskippy do you think that conservitives take a totally opposite view which is equally skewed away from how things really are? Such that they tend to take positions that are equally extream and not based on facts. There is enough hypocrisy to go around it is not just a liberal issue.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Warning: Angry, pissed-off white conservative rant.
Here Doc -you too nubianpapa if you’re still reading here -or any professional victim or race-baiter who cares to argue this.
Here’s a you-tube memorial to Channon Christian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgvmmyDpzHw
Remember her? Heard of her ??? No ??? Please -allow me.
She is -correction -was a beautiful young woman who died in her 21st year. She and her boyfriend were carjacked one fine January day in Knoxville, Tennessee.
They were raped -yes, both of them. They made her watch while they did him. Then they killed him and spent at least a full day working on her. Oh, yeah, I should mention that the crime was committed by black people. Horrific, no ?
Worse, dare we say than oh…say a black stripper who is supposedly gang-raped by white university students but lives to tell the tale ?
Or worse than young black women who are called “nappy-headed ho’s” by some old crank of a radio DJ ?
Or perhaps worse than a washed-up comedian (Michael Richards) using the dreaded “N” word ?
Evidently not, SINCE IT WAS NEVER REPORTED ! (at least, not until bloggers got ahold of it -it’s mentioned on this site although I’ve just not the patience to dig it up for youse).
After the horrific gang-rape and murder of Miss Christian, there were black advocacy groups who suggested that she wanted that to happen. That she ASKED for it !
You tell me Doc, or you nubianpapa, or anyone else -how this is acceptable. Please, educate me, since I evidently just don’t “get it”.
So now, we have a black fellow (in the photo above) trying on a T-shirt that says “enough is enough”.
Well no shit.
I don’t like seeing young women -or anyone- of any colour- being raped and tortured and killed.
Hell, high up on my “list” of people who need to be done away with is Melvin Stanton -a white man who raped, tortured and beat to death a young black woman.
Even higher up on that list (with apologies to WI) is the white liberals who put him back on the street so that he could do so (read up on the case -it’s as infuriating as it is heartbreaking).
So Doc, nubianpapa, or anyone else who buys into this PC horseshit that it’s somehow less of a crime or even justifiable when it’s a non-white doing it to a white:
NO. Not only no, but hell no.
You can disagree here all you want, but if this shit keeps up then my best advice to you is to duck.
Because we’re getting a tad fed up with this.
End rant.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
DW:
Amen, brother. Where were Jesse and Al after the Knoxville incident? Had it been the other way around, we’d still be talking about it. I live a little too close to TN and it made my skin crawl. Still does . . . those animals - yes they are animals - deserve similar torture and a similar death - or worse. It really is that easy.
But, we can’t have any racial dialogue in this country until we all agree that there are idiots, thugs, and miscreants of every color, creed, sex, whatever . . . and after that, we can start dispatching these idiots, thugs and miscreants of every color, creed, sex, or whatever asap.
Col.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:50 pm
I had read that they were hitting them with tennis shoes not kicking them,
Their frigging “tennis shoes” were laced onto their frigging feet .
Are you really that stupid?
I tend to believe you are.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
No apology necessary for me DW…..you know where my sentiments are when it comes to cases like those you cited. No matter black on black, black on white, white on black or white on white (as in the case of my grandson), thugs who assault, intimidate and injure other people need to be dealt with as adults in a manner that protects the society they live in from them. When we coddle them, try to deal with them in PC manner, they come back to do their deeds again, only worse. Usually, someone winds up dead in the most horrific way imaginable. Believe me, it has nothing to do with race except for those who want to make it so to deflect blame and responsibility from the perps. So for all of you of whatever color or race that marches or screams for mercy and understanding for these 6 thugs, when they do something worse, possibly to your family, remember these words…..you enabled them. And again, believe me, I know first hand about the consequences.
September 20th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
DW what happened to that woman and the response of the advocacy group is terrible and the men who carried out that crime should pay the ultimate price. It is never acceptable and don’t take my “just don’t get it” statement to include all things concerning race relations. Violent acts can NEVER IMHO be justified because of the race of an individual either victim or assailent.
Actually Col put it best there are extreamly fu**ed people of all races, creeds etc. It is not a conservitive issue or a liberal one, but it seems that instead of talking to each other we spend more energy talking at each other, misrepresenting positions and frankly not really listening.
September 20th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
WI, you have made the excellent case -both here and in private e-mails- that we tend to go a bit far in bashing liberals. “Mirroring the KOS kids” as you (correctly) put it.
I agree with you, but am in the odd position of probably hating liberals more than the worst extremist here on this site. Perhaps it’s because of the country I live in.
The fact is, liberals make me understand why civil wars generally feature the atrocities they do.
I don’t like to feel that way. But I do. I hate them. I despise them.
Hence my apologies, because I know that your wise counsel is right. But I just can’t seem to follow it.
September 20th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Doc,
Good post (in other words, you agreed with me :-).
But I honestly believe it is a liberal vs conservative issue.
Whatever.
I just want it to stop.
Obviously we agree on that.
September 20th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
An argument which is going to have to change once Hispanics are a majority of the US population.
No, it won’t. Then it will just be the will of the majority having it’s way - because when liberals win, the majority has spoken. When conservatives win, the majority is either bigoted or the vote was stolen.
Anyone here familiar with the Frank Jude beating case in Milwaukee? Long story short, some stupid cops beat up a guy of mixed race and our police department got taken to the cleaners (legally and financially) for their actions. Some officers are going to jail.
As they should, for beating someone up - which is a crime, regardless of the race of the victims or criminals.
But looking at that picture, I can’t help but seeing the picture of Frank Jude every paper and TV news station ran because they are VERY similar. And, like the Jena 6, the race card was played over and over again.
Funny how thousands have not shown up to protest the fact that the murderers of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian - a white couple that were kidnapped, raped (both of them), mutilated and murdered by four black suspects - are not being considered a hate crime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....d_reaction
September 20th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
An argument which is going to have to change once Hispanics are a majority of the US population.
No, it won’t. Then it will just be the will of the majority having it’s way - because when liberals win, the majority has spoken. When conservatives win, the majority is either bigoted or the vote was stolen.
Anyone here familiar with the Frank Jude beating case in Milwaukee? Long story short, some stupid cops beat up a guy of mixed race and our police department got taken to the cleaners (legally and financially) for their actions. Some officers are going to jail.
As they should, for beating someone up - which is a crime, regardless of the race of the victims or criminals.
But looking at that picture, I can’t help but seeing the picture of Frank Jude every paper and TV news station ran because they are VERY similar. And, like the Jena 6, the race card was played over and over again.
Funny how thousands have not shown up to protest the fact that the murderers of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian - a white couple that were kidnapped, raped (both of them), mutilated and murdered by four black suspects - are not being considered a hate crime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....d_reaction
I guess the only people who deserve to go to jail are white people who commit crimes against blacks. Black on black and black on white crime cannot be prosecuted because it’s an “injustice”…
September 20th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
1st trying very hard to be civil. The report said that they were hitting him with shoes not stomping him, but I’m not really sure why I keep trying to have a conversation with someone as yourself. You have issues but I understand considering how you must have felt riding on the short bus all those years and learning how to make wallets.
September 20th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
DW you really hate liberals?
English”I guess the only people who deserve to go to jail are white people who commit crimes against blacks. Black on black and black on white crime cannot be prosecuted because it’s an “injustice” Are you serious. Do you really believe that?
September 20th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Doc, The only issue you have with me is you have no defense against what I say.
September 20th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
drdobgyn, I really do believe you are a reasonable man, That said.
I find it very hard to believe that during a fight someone would take off his tennis shoe to use as a weapon, I dont know where the hitting with the shoes story came from, But it does sound a little silly.
If you could point me to where you saw it, I would be glad to have a look at it.
September 20th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Doc, why is it any time someone makes a point you don’t like, you find it necessary to insult them? What do you actually know about First that makes you qualified to make such assumptions? Come on man, grow up and leave the playground taunts behind.
Stomping, hitting, what does it matter when you are surrounded by SIX people and you are all by your lonesome? Yes, EQ, I lived in Milwaukee during the Frank Jude debacle and you are right, those pictures bear a striking resemblance to the victim’s in this case.
Doc,you were right in a previous post about no one really knowing for sure all the facts. Of course, most people will only parrot what they’ve heard from Jesse and Al. You know, the old playbook, repeat something often enough and loud enough and it becomes truth. And never, ever, ever apologize when you have been proven to be wrong, or worse yet, a liar.
The “Jena Six” are not innocent victims. They need to be men and admit they did something wrong and face the consequences. I for one, am tired of hearing local broadcasts about how this is the “civil rights” issue of our time. I protest, therefore I am. These kids weren’t falsely accused and hung out to dry.
Not a liberal versus conservative issue? I beg to differ. Notice how Hilliary has hitched her wagon to this particular star along with Edwards. Somehow, Hillary has even insinuated that just as the Katrina victims were invisible to the Bush admininistration, so are the poor, persecuted, pathetic Jena six and others that have their civil rights abused. It really is all Bush’s fault!!!!
How about some useful dialogue about how to keep things like this from happening again??? Naw, that won’t ever happen, there’s no money or political advantage to be made from that.
September 20th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
DW you really hate liberals?
Doc, bear in mind that I am a Canadian.
Here, we have the “faint hope clause” -a law that entitiles killers to apply for parole after so-many years. A man (term loosely used) named Clifford Olson uses that law to taunt -literally- the parents of the children he tortured and murdered.
Who brought that law into effect? Liberals.
In Winnipeg, youths keep stealing cars and occasionally use them to run over joggers -just for fun. Most of those youths are long-time repeat offenders. So who has made it a law that they cannot be punished?
Liberals.
In Canadian jails, searches of cells are forbidden. Ergo, prisoners wind up having access to drugs, weapons and there’s nothing prison guards can do about it.
Who’s idea was that?
Liberals.
But criminals in Canadian jails can vote. Care to guess who’s idea that was ?
Liberals.
The Canadian Army was gutted, yet they were continually sent on so-called “peace-keeping” missions all over the world -to the extent that a soldier would just get back from one shit-hole, only to be sent to another. Who was responsible?
Liberals.
In Toronto, we have black gang members shooting up the streets and occasionally killing innocent people (both black and white). The response? We need to ban law-abiding citizens from owning handguns. The goverrnment behind this brilliant idea?
Liberals.
Doc, I could go on in this vein for ages, documenting Liberal atrocities on law-abiding citizens, or documenting them completely destroying our military, our their pet-media allowing it to happen, or..etcetra etcerta….don’t challenge me on this one …OK?
Or we can just go back to an innocent young black woman who went shopping one day and was abducted, raped, tortured and killed by a white man who never should have been on the streets, but was allowed to be there -because of liberals.
So, yes. I don’t much care for them.
September 20th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
“He doesn’t want anything done that would disparage his name — no violence, not even a negative word,” Sharpton said.
What is he, a saint? Gandhi? Aren’t we talking about a violent criminal here? Why must serious people sit by poker-faced and listen to the ravings of this hatemonger Sharpton?
September 20th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
Zoomie why is it that when I respond to insults that I get called out on it. Not really a turn the other cheek kind of person. If you insult me than you deserve it in kind.
Dez, as I read it myself it does seem rather silly so lets chaulk that one up to a brain cramp.
DW okay
September 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Ok Doc, the old “he did it first” defense? Funny, my kids don’t even try that one on me anymore. But, First is able to defend himself, so I’ll stay out of it. I just think it would help you make your point a bit better if you wouldn’t resort to it. I think you are really trying to understand on this one, so please don’t think I’m jumping on you. Dialogue remember?
September 20th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Doc, Please point out where I insulted you.
BTW, A fact is not an insult.
If you believe those 6 thugs confronted the white kid, took off their shoes and beat him with them, then my statement about you being STUPID is justified as a FACT.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:45 pm
Jesse Jackoff and Al Sharpton are the reason I cannot take any of these protests seriously. Even the Yahoo news has an article trying to compare this protest to the civil rights marches of the 50’s and 60’s. Once again more old protesters trying to relive their glory days, or glory days they thought they had.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:03 pm
GT;
Men like Sharpten and Jackson have never cared a thing about racial equality, To them its all about keeping the feeding trough open.
Martin Luther King in my opinion actually cared about people.
September 21st, 2007 at 3:51 am
eq - You are of course correct, but you’re missing the key point the liberals keep telling us:
It is impossible for a minority to commit an act of racism or a hate crime, as those things can only be done by an oppressing majority.
Thus if Hispanics are the majority, they have half the cards necessary to be guilty of racism; the question is then what they will do to oppress minorities.
“Oppress” of course being defined as anything other than full appeasement of the NAACP and a cabinet position for Sharpton (who to this day has never even come close to a mea culpa for his rise to fame as a mouthpiece in the fake Tawana Brawley case; I guess he, Dan Rather and Mike Nifong need to go out for dinner sometime.)
September 21st, 2007 at 7:33 am
So basically, an act of poor taste or judgement brought on by anger over the near murder of a human being, is more heinous and criminal than the actual criminal act of beating a human being almost to death? The insult is greater than the injury. Now I get it.
September 21st, 2007 at 4:25 pm
You know what - perhaps if the msm would report the whole story - people would understand the cries of racist, race baiting and ‘in it for the money.’
The 3 boys who ’supposedly’ kicked this off with the nooses - were expelled by the Principal but that was overturned by the BOE and made suspensions - uh isn’t that punishment? [The DA & the FBI investigated but could not 'under the law' make hanging a noose a hate crime - hence no charges]
From Aug 31st to Dec 4th - it seems that there was a concerted effort to escalate incidents and violence from Bailey and his friends resulting in the Dec 4th assualt (and yes, they did not take off their shoes to beat Barker).
Mr Bell - from Dec 2005 to Dec 2006 - managed to be arrested 5 times - 3 of them (which includes the Barker assault) were for assault/battery.
So again I ask where is the ‘two standards of justice’?
September 21st, 2007 at 5:04 pm
BTW, did anyone watch the video of Al Sharptongue delivering his usual race-baiting harangue in Jena? Standing right behind big Al was none other than NOLA’s finest, ‘Chocolatte’ Ray Nagin.
Hmmm? Nothing more ‘hizzoner’ can do on the home front?
Yeah, like Nagin would pass up a chance for face time on national networks.
If I can find a video clip of the Jena proselytizers for your amusement, expect a link in kind.