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Five Stories Of “Honor” From The Muslim World

Some heart-warming stories for St. Valentine’s day.

From the Feb 13, 2007 issue of the Turkish Daily News:

Sister talked brother out of honor killing:

The brother of a 17-year-old girl rejected to apply a decision by his family’s elders to kill his sister by listening to her story and applied to the prosecutor’s office seeking protection, Sabah wrote yesterday.

The 25-year-old brother, whose name was not revealed by the newspaper, was sent to Istanbul to kill his sister, who is reported to have been raped and kidnapped by her cousin. The elders of the family decided that the sister was guilty for seducing her cousin and therefore had to be killed. When the young man reached Istanbul and found her sister, instead of shooting her dead he listened to her. According to the paper, the brother changed his mind after talking with his sister and they began living together. Later, he applied for protection claiming that they were receiving threats. “I could not control my tears when I listened to [my sister] and understood that I had been deceived [by the family elders],” said the brother.

The girl was sent to a state-run dormitory after her brother’s application.

And from the same page:

Husband arrested on suspicion of honor killing:

Sabah covered yet another honor killing story yesterday about a man named Murat Kızılkan, who was arrested along with his brother on suspicion of killing Kızılkan’s wife. Dilber Özel, 17, was reported to have committed suicide a month ago, but her husband was arrested after an autopsy report found that left-handed Özel was shot in her right temple.

The young woman’s mother’s testimony also said that Kızılkan frequently beat Özel and threatened her with death if she told her family about the beatings, the daily reported. The autopsy report showed that her hymen was still intact, meaning it was not torn by penetrative sex, which might have caused Kızılkan to conclude that the young woman was not a virgin before he married her, the daily speculated.

Kızılkan and Özel were not officially married but had a religious wedding ceremony.

And from last month’s issue of the Turkish Daily News:

Somalian rape victim finds shelter in Turkey

Saturday, January 13, 2007

ISTANBUL - A Somali woman was given a new home in Konya six months ago when she fled her country in fear of falling victim to an “honor killing” at the hands of her own family after a traumatic rape incident led to her pregnancy.

Thirty-year-old Safiye Haji Osman, now staying at the Konya Pefkat-Der Women’s Shelter, told daily Hürriyet that her husband had been murdered by an armed group who burst into their house in Somalia eight months ago. Osman was raped by some of the attackers and later realized she was pregnant, however she tried to keep both facts secret, fearing that her relatives would notice and kill her.

“I had witnessed such events many times there. When I realized that the same thing was going to happen to me and my unborn baby I contacted the U.N. office in Somalia. Following arrangements between the United Nations and nongovernmental organizations I came to the Pefkat-Der Women’s Shelter six months ago with my 3 and 4-year-old boys.”

Osman gave birth to her baby girl, who she named Koowsar, at the Konya Faruk Sükan Birth and Pediatric Hospital nearly two months ago.

What if she had stayed in Somalia? “I wouldn’t be alive now if I had stayed there. Neither would Koowsar… they would never forgive me for what I experienced,” Osman explained.

Konya Pefkat-Der President Hayrettin Bulan noted that Osman was worn out when she came to them: “She was really scared. She thought she was going to be killed and her babies were going to be taken away from her. After she came here she gained self confidence. We try our best for her.”

Examples like Osman show that victims of tradition exist all over the world, not just in Turkey, added Bulan.

And from a couple of weeks ago, via France’s AFP:

Man shoots daughter in honour killing

January 26, 2007 12:43am

A father shot dead his 17-year-old daughter, having suspected her of having sex, and surrendered to the police in the latest of the "honour killings" that have brought international opprobrium on Jordan.

An autopsy found the girl to be a virgin.

Weeks earlier the girl had returned home from a family protection clinic after doctors had vouched for virginity and the father had signed a pledge not to harm her, a state forensic pathologist said.

The father shot her four times in the head, said the pathologist.

The authorities have not disclosed the names of the father or the daughter or even their town, saying only that they lived in a southern province.

And from the UK’s Telegraph:

Lovers Put To Death For Suspected Adultery

January 31, 2007

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — A Pakistani man and a woman were tied to a tree and stoned to death after they were suspected of committing adultery.

The couple, from the village of Donga Bonga in Bahawalnagar district in southern Punjab, apparently pleaded their innocence but died in an "honor killing" over the weekend in a hail of bricks.

A divorcee in her 40s, Elahi Hussain had angered her family by allegedly conducting an affair with a fellow villager, Hafiz Shah, 45.

On Sunday night, according to the local police chief, Hajji Mohammed, two of the woman’s brothers and two other relatives, tied ropes around the necks of the couple, fastened them to a tree, and stoned them for 10 minutes.

Mind you, St. Valentine’s Day is outlawed throughout the Islamic world because it is seen as too dangerous.

These killings go on each and every day.

It is estimated that in Syria alone there are more than 200 to 300 women murdered a year — for "honor."

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46 Responses to “Five Stories Of “Honor” From The Muslim World”

  1. esthier

    The autopsy report showed that her hymen was still intact, meaning it was not torn by penetrative sex, which might have caused Kızılkan to conclude that the young woman was not a virgin before he married her, the daily speculated.

    I’m confused. If it wasn’t torn, then wouldn’t that imply that she was still a virgin? Am I missing something here?

  2. Sharps Rifle

    I believe I can safely say that the concept of true honor is missing in the Islamic world. A more accurate, and less PC way of describing Islamic “society” would be to call it barbarism.

  3. 1sttofight

    Islam is a “Filthy” cult.

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  5. oki

    Esthier, I have often wondered how they believe there could be 72 virgins per mooselimb in heaven. Perhaps it is a problem of interpretation and when they say 72 virgins it means the exact opposite of the conventional definition of “virgin.”

    (my other theory is that the mooselimbs come from “Bizarro World.” This also explains their use of children as shields and some of their other more odd behavior. We shouldn’t hold it against them, therefore, and just blow them back into their original dimension)

  6. SG

    “I’m confused. If it wasn’t torn, then wouldn’t that imply that she was still a virgin? Am I missing something here?”

    That threw me at first, too. I thought maybe it had been a typo.

    But what I now think it means is that this character had sex with her without breaking her hyman. Ergo, it being intact did not mean she was a virgin.

    So he naturally just assumed “the worst” and killed her.

  7. SG

    “Perhaps it is a problem of interpretation and when they say 72 virgins it means the exact opposite of the conventional definition of “virgin.””

    Don’t go doubting the exact word of God or someone will cut your head off.

    Not only are they virgins, they are perpetual virgins, who become “renewed” every day.

    Sort of like Doris Day, but different.

  8. Discipula

    I know of an American who married a Philippino Muslim girl. He was given a “ceremonial” knife by her father - it’s for killing her if she ever dishonors him. What a quaint custom. Shouldn’t surprise me that the husband was OK with it - he’s a liberal.

    oki - “Bizarro World!” ha ha ha

  9. Warmonger Infidel

    “sex with her without breaking her hyman”

    As much as I really, really hate to go there, it can only mean he was a very, very small guy. Look at that little winky that can’t get deep enought to check out that virginity.

    Ok…now I feel like a marooon.

  10. englishqueen01

    WI, you weren’t thinking anything I wasn’t (it was either that or the guy had no clue what he was doing). Like SG and esthier, that sentence didn’t make sense at first reading. SG’s explanation clarified things a bit, and your response was pretty much what I was thinking.

    Also, and not that it would matter to the advanced intellect of the Muslim world, not every woman is born with the physical features of a virgin and - sometimes - non-sexual physical movement, trauma, etc. can actually damage/break the hymen. Meaning that a woman who is still really a virgin doesn’t have the physical sign. Meaning, in the Muslim world, she is subject to “honor killing”.

    And don’t even get me started on rape and honor killings. Of course, we all know - as the Australian imam taught us - that a woman is always to blame for her rape (that whole “uncovered meat” thing). And that the only way to deal with a rape is to kill the victim and not punish the rapist.

    Now I’m patiently awaiting American feminists criticism of Muslim culture….chirp…chirp…chirp…chirp. Oh, that’s right. They’re too busy waging war against stay-at-home mothers, pro-lifers, corporate glass ceilings, and others who are far more dangerous for women’s rights than Muslims who kill thousands of women annually in the name of “honor”.

  11. Warmonger Infidel

    Well, damn, eq….now I don’t feel like a marooon anymore. Thanks for that.

    And you know, it’s always the woman’s fault. The imam mooselimb told me so.

  12. englishqueen01

    Well, damn, eq….now I don’t feel like a marooon anymore. Thanks for that.

    You’re welcome. I suppose I could say great minds think alike, but…given the subject matter… ;-)

    I may be eloquent, but I also know how to shoot from the hip and I calls ‘em like I sees ‘em when the need arises..

  13. wardmama4

    I can’t put into words how these stories just want me to utter the Marine ‘motto’ - Kill ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out. . .What a backward, hatefilled, distorted and dangerous ‘religion’. My a** - Allah or God does not promote this, does not condone this, does not encourage this. This is the corruption of God, religion, marriage and reality. No wonder the damn libs love them so much - they all live in the exact same Bizzaro World.

    And WI and eq - I was thinking the exact same thing - especially the ‘no clue what he was doing’ .

    And yes, the howl from the feminazis and human rights groups is deafening. . .NOT

  14. DEZ

    I am not even gonna go there,
    Bad hands, Don’t, Don’t.

  15. 1sttofight

    But what I now think it means is that this character had sex with her without breaking her hyman. Ergo, it being intact did not mean she was a virgin.

    If you aint got the stuff, you shouldn’t be poking the muff,

  16. DEZ

    Well, 1st went there, LOL.

  17. Warmonger Infidel

    Now wait a minute 1st….I was first with this one. But eq is right….GMTA and there are a lot of great minds here…:-)

    wardmama2….or the other Marine sniper saying…..”One shot…..One kill”.

  18. Kilmeny

    Perhaps she was just one of those “renewable” virgins.

  19. Warmonger Infidel

    Kilmeny…..that is really bad…..shame on you….wash your mouth out with jinn soap.

  20. Kilmeny

    The shame. :-)

  21. choosesomething

    So I guess now the brother AND the sister will be murdered. All that matters is that the bloodthirsty subhumans get their pound of flesh and the joy of spilled blood…….yeah, America is the bad guy…..

  22. Professor_Repulso

    “If Mohammed lived here today, I would propose he be tarred and feathered as an extremist and driven out of the country”. http://www.expatica.com/actual.....y_id=36456

  23. sheehanjihad

    sex with her without breaking her hyman (hymen) ( ahem) (akbar). Just me, and I havent read all the posts yet…but perhaps this is one of the real reasons our muslim brothers are so, well, unnerved by women. If you dont have a winky that you can actually see when you are standing up….well…..time to make sure women cant say anything about it. And if you can put your jinn in without the hymen…..well….you should think seriously about ingesting a blowtorch. You are one sorry jihadist. Oh, my bad. Tiny winky, cannot thinky! Makes sense to me! Loser bastards…I didnt think they had a pair anyway…and now the middle member doesnt seem to rise to the occasion either…..

  24. gare

    Where are the “moderate” Mooslems? They will not be heard because they believe the koran and the words of moe. Any “moderate” will be quickly cut off (literally) by their religious leaders. Americans have a problem understanding these barbarians because America was founded upon the Bible and the God of Love whereas the god of the koran is a phony “god” of hatred and murder. Just read a section of the crazy book…. Anytime the God of the Bible brings death to people it is judgment against those who practice human sacrifice (suicide killers) & murder (homicide killers). Islam is a cult that believes islam must be forced upon the world. It has nothing to do with love. Don’t take my word for it….ask a mooslem teacher. Christians know that Jesus is the only true God of Love and you cannot force anyone to Love the Truth.

  25. SG

    To be fair, Gare, the Middle East has made a tiny bit of progress on this subject. In Pakistan, as least, they are trying to change the “rape laws” and not blame the victim (often more than the perp) as is the Sharia custom.

    But even that has got many Muslim riled up, as we noted a few months ago:

    Muslims Protest Changes To Rape Laws In Pakistan | Sweetness & Light
    http://www.sweetness-light.com.....n-pakistan

  26. DEZ

    SJ, My evil hands are in restraints, Quit tempting them.

  27. DEZ

    Gare, I can not really call myself religious, But who is Moe?

  28. sheehanjihad

    DEZ…. moe hammud. see? (I think)

  29. DEZ

    Oh, Nyuk nyuk.
    Moes mamma was a goat blower.

  30. Poonzilla

    Was he any relation to Larry Hammad? Or perhaps a friend of Curly?
    I think they had a comedy routine back in the 700’s…

  31. DEZ

    Hey, My name is Larry.
    WOOO, WOOO, WOOO.
    Nyuk, Nyuk.
    Now do the curly shuffle and give me 20.

  32. 1sttofight

    DEZ, I agree with you on FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS.

  33. DEZ

    Sad was how I felt 1st.
    Sad that the men were shown as complete losers.
    Eastwood can kiss on my “BEEP’ hole.

  34. 1sttofight

    It was not even close to the book.

  35. Poonzilla

    Consider it done!

    (I didn’t, but you can still consider it done….LOL)

  36. Poonzilla

    Haven’t seen that one yet, but based on your recommendations I probably won’t now….

  37. Warmonger Infidel

    Flags and Letter’s, both suck, both antiwar and just a bit anti-American in my opinion. What do you expect coming out of lalawood. Eastwood has shown his true colors….just another liberal hollywood blowhard that thinks he has the answers to everything. It’s his right to make this crap, it’s our right not to pay money to see it.

  38. DEZ

    Never read the book 1st,
    But I do think the movie was a complete insult to the men who fought and lived,
    And a kick in the teeth to those died, I do not want history repainted,
    But good God, Eastwood portrayed our men as the lowest scum on earth.
    God have mercy on his soul if he ever meets me, Because he had better believe I will show none.

  39. sheehanjihad

    I went to the video store….and asked to rent “fags of our fathers” and they threw me out! What gives? And what the hell is that movie doing out of the “adult section” anyway?

    by the way guys, all joking aside….the movie was a letdown. I will tell you however, that in reading the bios on the guys who raised that flag….and the ensuing PR crap the followed, people were a hell of a lot more “innocent” in those days, and did what they thought was right for the common good.

    The smarmy way those men were paraded to the public was true….how they reacted was also true. It just wasnt movie material about Iwo. That’s what sucked. Just like the movie.

  40. morninggloryseed

    Disgusting “religion.” I am so ashamed at my thoughts (such as having a nuclear device ‘accidentally’ go off over Mecca during the Hajj) about Islam these days because I feel like I have regressed to their level of thinking…and that is shameful.

    Well, on second thought, I am not at that level yet because I do not believe killing others who are not of my religion will bring me to heaven with 72 virgins.

  41. 1sttofight

    I know what you mean morninggloryseed , When I get to heaven I want 72 very experienced hookers to service me several times a day. ;)

    I don’t want any of this, “Ewww, YOU want me to do what” crap.

  42. choosesomething

    I heard a rebroadcast of a Clit Eastwood interview on NPR. He speaks of the great courage and commitment of the Japs who would rather die than surrender on Iwo Jima. He “forgot” to tell about the “heros” grabbing our guys and dragging them back into their holes and slicing off their penises and shoving them into the mouths of their victims. I’m sure it was a honest oversight on Dirty Harry’s part…

  43. DEZ

    Eastwood has become the villains that he always fought in his past movies,
    He is the bad and the ugly.

  44. vaunt

    I don’t want to defend them, but before the 21, and 20 century Europeans have done things much worst then what they are doing to themselves and other. They where called lower then people, even if most of that greatest country where started there. Mathematics came form their region.

    Yes what they are doing is wrong, but it is their way of life. What would you do if people where trying to change your way of life. Most believe there way of life is fine. There are some that don’t. There life is harder then most people around the world.

  45. Noyzmakr

    Well, I suppose with that way of thinking that we should allow child molesters to continue because “it’s just their way of life”.

  46. pagar

    I think people are trying to change our lives. They claim they are Americans and they want America defeated. Here’s a info from 1971

    “JOHN KERRY: AMBITION AND OPPORTUNISM”

    “As new information continues to becomes available about the radical activities and affiliations of John Kerry, one has to ask the following question — did the KGB and the Communist Party USA use John Kerry to further their goals of a communist victory in Vietnam? The evidence strongly suggests that they did.”

    Here’s the CPUSA Today

    “The clearest expression of this developing movement pivots around the candidacy of Barack Obama, whose inspirational message and politics have captured the imagination of millions. So much so that many commentators and politicians use the words ‘transformational’ or ‘transforming’ to describe his candidacy — that is, a candidacy capable of assembling a broad people’s majority to reconfigure the terms and terrain of politics in this country in a fundamental way.”

    They are the leaders of one of the two major political party the USA has today.


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