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Time Notices Homosexuals’ Enemies List

From the erstwhile news magazine, Time:

What Happens If You’re on the Gay “Enemies List”

By Alison Stateman / Los Angeles Saturday, Nov. 15, 2008

Ever since a slim majority outlawed gay marriage in California, opponents have waged national protests and petitions, urging the judicial system to reconsider the results of the Nov. 4 referendum. (Proposition 8 overturned an earlier decision by the Supreme Court of California legalizing same-sex marriages.) While the court weighs whether or not to get back into the fray, the civil unrest ignited by the ban shows no sign of abating. A National Protest Against Prop 8 organized by JoinTheImpact.com is scheduled for this Saturday. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which opponents say donated more than $20 million to the Yes on 8 campaign, has already become a focus of protests, with demonstrators gathered around Mormon temples not only in California but across the country.

The Mormon Church is not the only group being singled out for criticism. African-Americans, 70% of whom voted yes on Proposition 8, according to a CNN exit poll, have become a target. According to eyewitness reports published on the Internet, racial epithets have been used against African-Americans at protests in California, directed even at blacks who are fighting to repeal Proposition 8. Said Evan Wolfson, executive director of Freedom to Marry, “In any fight, there will be people who say things they shouldn’t say, but that shouldn’t divert attention from what the vast majority are saying against this, that it’s a terrible injustice.” (See the Top 10 ballot measures.)

In addition to protests, gay activists have begun publishing lists online exposing individuals and organizations who have donated money in support of Proposition 8. On AntiGayBlacklist.com, individuals who gave money toward Proposition 8 are publicized, with readers urged not to patronize their businesses or services. The list of donors was culled from data on ElectionTrack.com, which follows all contributions of over $1,000 and all contributions of over $100 given before October 17. Dentists, accountants, veterinarians and the like who gave a few thousand dollars to the cause are listed alongside major donors like the Container Supply Co., Inc. of Garden Grove, Calif., which gave $250,000. “Anyone who steps into a political fight aimed at taking away fundamental rights from fellow citizens opens themselves up to criticism,” said Wolfson. “The First Amendment gives them the right of freedom of speech and to support political views, but people also have the right to criticize them.”

Even before the passage of Proposition 8, Californians Against Hate compiled and published a “dishonor roll” of those individuals, along with their company affiliations, who gave $5,000 or more towards supporting the measure. Telephone numbers and Web sites were added along with commentary about some of the larger donors to public information obtained through the California Secretary of State’s Office. “My goal was to make it socially unacceptable to give huge amounts of money to take away the rights of one particular group, a minority group,” says Fred Karger, a retired political consultant and founder of Californians Against Hate. “I wanted to make the public aware of who these people are and how much they’re giving and then they could make a decision as to whether or not they want to patronize their businesses.”

The negative publicity is having effects on both companies and individuals. Scott Eckern, artistic director of the California Musical Theatre in Sacramento, whose $1,000 donation was listed on ElectionTrack, chose to resign from his post this week to protect the theater from public criticism. Karger says a “soft boycott” they started against Bolthouse Farms, which gave $100,000 to Proposition 8, was dropped after he reached a settlement with the company. Bolthouse Farms was to give an equal amount of money to gay political causes. The amount ultimately equaled $110,000.

Meanwhile, lists of donors to Proposition 8, once trumpeted on the Yes on 8 Web site, have been taken down to protect individuals from harassment. “It’s really awful,” says Frank Schubert, campaign manager for Yes on Proposition 8. “No matter what you think of Proposition 8, we ought to respect people’s right to participate in the political process. It strikes me as quite ironic that a group of people who demand tolerance and who claim to be for civil rights are so willing to be intolerant and trample on other people’s civil rights.”

Oddly enough, what Time magazine calls a slim majority when describing the no vote for Proposition 8 (52 to 47%) is almost exactly the same majority that Mr. Obama won by (52 to 46%). And yet the Obama victory is hailed as a landslide which signifies a tremendous mandate.

Moreover, while we constantly hear about how much money the opponents of Prop 8 raised ($37.6 million), we seldom hear how the proponents raised almost as much money ($35.8 million).

Where are their lists? The boycotts of the pro Prop 8 contributors?

But worst of all, this article pretends that the groups like “Californians Against Hate” are limiting themselves to “protests” and boycotts, whereas in truth they are doing far more.

At last count a dozen Mormon Temples have been physically damaged. And who knows how many have received envelopes with “white powder” and other such love notes.

But these are “Californians Against Hate.” They are demanding tolerance while giving none .

Still, perhaps the most amazing thing here is that Time magazine would even dare to notice.

This article was posted by Steve on Saturday, November 15th, 2008. Comments are currently closed.

26 Responses to “Time Notices Homosexuals’ Enemies List”

  1. Retired Geek says:

    We live in a society in 2008 that has an educational system that is more interested in ‘Self-Esteem’ than survival.

    Our educational system is NO longer focused on the survivability of the student in a world of Information and High Tech, but rather how the student ‘Feels’ about themselves.

    Homosexuals want the educational system to change the curricula to teach they are ‘Normal’ so they can have ‘Self Esteem’.

    Homosexuals want to feel ‘Good’ about their deviant lifestyle and think ANY criticism is intolerance.

    Homosexuals have ‘Pride’ parades and wear badges about ‘Gay Pride’ and yet seemingly hate their lifestyle or they wouldn’t constantly try to show the world ‘How Proud They Are’.

    Homosexuals are intolerant of anyone who disagrees and attack them personally and viciously, all in the name of ‘Tolerance’ and ‘Diversity’.

    Homosexuals declare all they want are the same rights of every other American Citizen – yet Homosexuals have the same rights as any other American Citizen.

    Homosexuals have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex just like every other American Citizen. Homosexuals have the right to have sex with another consenting adult just like any other American Citizen.

    There is a ‘Cure’ for hunger ‘Eat’, there is a ‘Cure’ for sleepiness go to ‘Sleep’, there is a ‘Cure’ for loneliness ‘Make Friends’ etc.

    There is a ‘Cure’ for sexual deviancy choose non-deviant sex.

    Homosexuals who want to feel ‘Normal’ and have self-esteem, change your lifestyle or accept yourself and leave the rest of us out of the equation.

    Homosexuals ‘Life is a Hill’ get over it.

  2. artpa says:

    I don’t know why they are so ticked about this. They should herald the prop 8 vote cause now the commie 9th circuit can rule that it can’t stand up to the 14th amendment to the US constitution, probably rightly so. This is why we need a full US constitutional amendment to protect marriage.

  3. therightguy says:

    This is no surprise. I was called into my bosses office because my blog offended her (I am anti Obama). She reminded me that where I work has policies on diversity and there are metrics in our reviews that measure competence in that area. She also reminded me that my interview was coming up. I work in education, and it doesn’t matter that I have a first amendment right, because it’s relative to your minority status in society. Their diversity does not include intellectual or political diversity. It’s intellectual terrorism, forced re-education at worst, and silencing at best. Yes she is gay, and her friend works there too. What these hypocrites fail to realize is that they have become what they allegedly loath. Their methods demonstrate that they don’t want equal rights, but superior rights.

  4. Steve says:

    “It’s intellectual terrorism, forced re-education at worst, and silencing at best.”

    You’re absolutely right.

    Still, you should painstakingly document everything that she and the company say and do to you at every step.

    Even contemporaneous notes to yourself are considered evidence.

    Create a paper trail in case she fires your or demotes your or does something else untoward, based solely on your non-work activities.

    You could end up owning the company.

  5. proreason says:

    Just an opinion…..homosexuals are fueling most of the excessive hatred from the left since Bush was elected.

    Racial minorities have been angry for some time, but they have really been pretty well acclimated into the wider culture since the violence of the 60’s. Didn’t one get elected to some office recently, as an example. Not that there isn’t plenty of hate left, fueled by Community Organizers for the most part. Witness, the glee when the contemptable murderer OJ Simpson beat the system. But by and large, there are large racial sub-cultures where everyone is well accepted, and their ability to success in the wider culture is manifest to anybody who chooses not to deny the obvious.

    But homosexuals have a double burden. In addition to deviating from societal norms, many of them seem to hate themselves. I noticed this first with Rosie O’Donnel. One would think that woman would be thrilled with what she has accomplished in life, yet watch her face when she gets on a soapbox. That ain’t some political disagreement…that is the vilest of hatred spilling out of that woman like a volcano. Her face contorts into an angry Haloween mask when she talks.

    I think a very heavy percentage of the MoveOn/Kos crowd is fueled by that fury. I can’t imagine that any other group has reason to be as angry as they seem in a country that offers so much opportunity, even in the hardest of times.

    I don’t know anything about Keith Uberfury, but based on his over-the-top hatred of everything he disagrees with, despite a life of abundant opportunity and wealth, I believe he must be one of the angry homo-sexual self-haters, taking it out on society in general.

  6. wardmama4 says:

    So let me get this right – a majority of CA citizens voted on a Gay Marriage ban and some activist judge(s) overturned it and they voted again on the ban and it was passed and the minority is now exposing every one who supported it to a form of terrorism and of course the obvious invasion of privacy by publishing their info on the Internet – not to mention the datamining that was used to garner the info in the first place.

    And they have been screaming about what Bush did for 8 years to protect us from an enemy who almost daily threatens to wipe us from the face of the earth. . .

    I can’t wait for the resulting ‘payback’ – they have not been shamed into silence so they not only want the tolerance that they have gotten – they want more. It was why I stopped supporting the ERA, when I realized that they did not want equality but superiority.

    America is in for a world of hurt – a race baiting POTUS, an out of control gay special interests group, and unmonitored/un-enforced illegal population – anarchy is just around the corner.

  7. curvyred says:

    What confuses me about these people is they claim they are being discriminated against, so these use it as an excuse to publicly humiliate and encourage discrimination of others, makes not one ounce of sense.

    They do not want equality they want us all to agree with thier choices.

    I think the Mormons should go to all the gay bars and protest, oh that’s right they can’t that would be considered a “hate crime”

  8. Anonymoose says:

    I was called into my bosses office because my blog offended her (I am anti Obama).

    Situations like that are not pleasant. How did she know about the blog in the first place? Like SG says I’d document everything they do.

    I’d also go further and just stop your blog and start another under a different pseudonym. What she doesn’t know can’t be used against you, and if you’re not blogging from work or bringing it up at work and she still finds the new blog, then she’s intruding on your personal life.

  9. sheehanjihad says:

    She sounds like a tubby douchebag with more issues that someone’s blog. Documentation is essential, but the advice of switching blogs to another name is sound. If she finds it then, she has an agenda that transcends the workplace. Personally, I would give her instant “tater therapy”, but that’s me.

  10. sheehanjihad says:

    Californians Against Hate? That group is the most hate filled batch of individuals I have ever seen! How is it that their entire agenda revolves around their visceral hatred, and somehow, everyone is supposed to love and accept them? Rabid hyenas are more forgiving and peaceful than these psychos.

  11. Professor_Repulso says:

    “Bakunin preached destruction so long as there was anything left to destroy. He preached rebellion — even when there was nothing left to rebel against.” E.H. Carr

  12. inkependent_voter says:

    This is the part that caught my eye:

    Karger says a “soft boycott” they started against Bolthouse Farms, which gave $100,000 to Proposition 8, was dropped after he reached a settlement with the company. Bolthouse Farms was to give an equal amount of money to gay political causes. The amount ultimately equaled $110,000.

    How is this NOT extortion? It is, isn’t it? Looking at Dictionary.com, you can find the definition:

    Ex*tor”tion\, n. [F. extorsion.]

    1. The act of extorting; the act or practice of wresting anything from a person by force, by threats, or by any undue exercise of power; undue exaction; overcharge.

    Looks like extortion, quacks like extortion..must be EXTORTION!

  13. 02000 says:

    To Inkependent_voter:
    “How is this NOT extortion?” Easy
    Jessie Jackson and the rainbow coalition has been doing this fo years.
    It is only extortion if you are caucasian and straight. :-(

    Help the poor 1-microloan at a time:wwwkivaorg

  14. sheehanjihad says:

    Ok, let me get this straight. (no pun intended) You are gay, and you are protesting the overwhelming mandate of the voting public for the second time that states that marriage is for a man and a woman.

    Your signs all say, “stop the hate”…’tolerance”…”rights”…”acceptance” and you expect the majority of the population of this country to immediately agree with you or they are hateful homophobic bigoted racist intolerant fanatics.

    But, all I see from the gay community is hatred, and I mean virulent hatred, total intolerance, unwillingness to accept the majority opinion, and extorting those who exercise the rights you say are being denied you.

    You are attempting to force those who dont agree with your lifestyle to accept what you believe to be right. This has come to a vote twice..not once, but twice, and each time your desire to be considered “normal” has been resoundingly defeated.

    I dont condemn your choice to be gay, I dont hate you because you are gay, but when you try to convince me that the apple I am holding is actually a banana, and threaten me with violence and public scrutiny for doing what I believe in, I cannot help but notice the immense hypocritical irony in your protest.

    You are going out of your way to do the very things you are screaming are being done against you. Your lack of accepting the fact that your lifestyle choice does not resonate with the rest of the county is appalling. You are gay. So what? You choose to immerse yourself in this cocoon of self righteousness and somehow figure that everyone else must accept you for who you are.

    Your cause has made great strides in the past thirty years. For those of you who are too young to remember, being openly gay was not an option due to the very real fact that you would be beaten to within an inch of your life if you were discovered. That isnt the case anymore. Being gay isnt the abhorrent societal pox it used to be.

    Being gay is YOUR choice. But with that choice, there comes the reality that though you may be tolerated in society as a whole, your insistence on marriage just shows that you wont be satisfied until you have it all.

    Remember this. If you have to force people to accept your demands by having laws passed that makes it a crime to not accept you, you are doing the very same thing that was done against you for centuries. People tolerate your lifestyle, they have come to accept your choices.

    But to see you all violently protesting as though you are being discriminated against is just hog wash. You want it all, and you wont settle for anything less. You are like a small child who gets everything they want except one thing, so they throw a tantrum until they get that too.

    It’s time you practiced what you are protesting against. Be happy for all of the gains the gay community has achieved, and learn to accept and tolerate those who simply dont agree with your lifestyle.

    You insisted it be brought to a vote, a mandate of the people so laws would give you the rights you think you dont have. Well, you lost. The majority of people dont agree with you. They dont have to. They are exercising the rights you are trying to circumvent by your intolerance.

  15. VMAN says:

    Throughout most of history homosexuality was just not accepted in society with maybe the exceptions of a few civilizations that eventually died out. More recently homosexuality was seen to be caused by ones environment. More recent still it was said that homosexuals were born that way. Let’s go with that! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that a brief study of human anatomy and reproduction shows that homosexuality is a deviation from nature. With that in mind then I would say that if someone is born a homosexual that it is a birth defect and needs to be corrected. People are born with Downs Syndrome and if we could correct it we would. We would not call it an alternative lifestyle. The problem is that the libido is a powerful thing and these people are thinking with their genitals not their brains.

  16. Helena says:

    “Throughout most of history homosexuality was just not accepted in society with maybe the exceptions of a few civilizations that eventually died out.”

    Don’t know that that’s quite true. It seems to me most civilizations have tolerated homosexuality in a more or less grudging way – sort of an “if you must, but be discreet or suffer for it” attitude. (Except for the few rulers who could do as they liked publicly – Alexander, Hadrian) Certainly though, none that I know of have condoned gay “marriage” for the simple reason that marriage has always been seen as building a home for children.

    I have nothing against gays. They may be neurotic narcissists (my personal best guess about what homosexuality really is) but lots of straight people are neurotic. Humans are not by nature solitary creatures, and having to go through life alone or in hiding to me seems cruel and unusual punishment. I do think anyone should be able to designate any ONE other person as their legal “partner” who would have the sort of legal protections of a spousal relationship. And if they have a legal union, they should also be required to go through the usual legal hideous “divorce” proceedings to dissolve it. This, hopefully, would keep “marriages for insurance” to a minimum.

    But what I don’t get is the gay movement’s insistence that their unions be publicly accepted as anything more than civil arrangements. Why not just insist on separation of church and state and claim the right to a life-partner as a basic human need? I think it is. To insist on church weddings or public approval of something that is morally and spiritually repugnant to so many people just seems like juvenile provocation. The “You must not only accept me but celebrate me, too” thing will only slow down their whole cause.

  17. Steve says:

    “To insist on church weddings or public approval of something that is morally and spiritually repugnant to so many people just seems like juvenile provocation. The “You must not only accept me but celebrate me, too” thing will only slow down their whole cause.”

    A mere 25 years ago or so the mantra of any homosexual parade was “just leave us alone.”

    Those were the days.

  18. monsieurhappy says:

    The comments here are hilarious! For people that are not homosexual, you people certainly know a lot about the lifestyle (ie: deviant, no self-esteem), about the sex acts (deviant, perverse) I’m wondering how did you learn so much about it?

    While I am not out there protesting or boycotting, I am gay. Perhaps I’m more fair-minded than the my counterparts in the media. I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone has a right or duty to participate in the political process. Prop 8 one fair and square. However, I think that some of the people that voted for it are probably ignorant on the issue just as a majority of the people who voted for Obama are ignorant. While I think these protests are just plain stupid, people do have the right to spend their money however they way (well at least until Obama stops that haha).

    Rest assured the gays and lesbians out at these protests make up less than 50% of our population. Out of all the friends that I have that are gay and lesbian, only 2 are actively participating in these events. This means there are a lot more of us who are disappointed with Prop 8 but realize that life goes on and eventually things will pan out. People seem to forget that California still has a landmark domestic partner program that has even been used by some heterosexual friends of mine.

    My way of protesting: living an excellent life filled with family, friends and personal responsibility.

  19. Richard Romano says:

    “The comments here are hilarious! For people that are not homosexual, you people certainly know a lot about the lifestyle (ie: deviant, no self-esteem), about the sex acts (deviant, perverse) I’m wondering how did you learn so much about it?”

    You obviously cannot see the heterosexually minded concerns for the homosexual mote in your eye…so, if people talk about sexual behavior they do not agree with, that means they’re closet gays? Who knew?

    The point is simple: society should promote idealisms, and marriage between one man and one woman is as old as culture…no society in history, save this narcissistic one, has ever sanctioned same-sex marriage. The people of California spoke, and thus their voice should be upheld. Don’t like it? Move to Canada or any other country where you agree with their views on the issue.

  20. VMAN says:

    I guess I am going to have to be crude and to the point. We can all tolerate this deviant behavior and sooner or later the deviants will get the marriage thing passed or the courts to overturn it. Private schools, businesses and churches will have to accept the “life style” or face hate crimes and don’t open your mouth or you will be placed in a program to teach you tolerance. The fact of the matter is the “life style ” is based solely upon where a person sticks their d–k or tongue as the case may be and that ain’t much of a “lifestyle”.

  21. U NO HOO says:

    Homosexuality is condoned and encouraged by liberals. Does the name Barney Frank ring a familiar note?

    Liberalism is a mental disorder.


  22. 1sttofight says:

    Personally I think we ought to go back to beating the crap out of them where ever they are to be found like we used to.
    But that is just me….

  23. DEZ says:

    “The comments here are hilarious! For people that are not homosexual, you people certainly know a lot about the lifestyle (ie: deviant, no self-esteem), about the sex acts (deviant, perverse) I’m wondering how did you learn so much about it?”

    One does not need to be a child molester to understand that only a sick twisted mind would be OK with it!.
    One does not have to be an axe murderer to understand that its not socially acceptable.
    And one does not have to be a homosexual to know that unnatural acts are taking place, this is not rocket science, we are all sexually equipped.
    Add to the fact that schools are teaching students about perversions, that newspapers and TV stations along with movies, magazines and billboards are used to educate us all about homosexuality, a person would have to live in a cave not to educated about the subject.
    So to come here and imply that the posters should be completely ignorant of what is shoved in their face day after day is ridiculous.
    Sir, you are not only stupid, you are anal about it! (Pun intended)

  24. sheehanjihad says:

    If Proposition 8 would have been changed to Preparation “H”, perhaps more people would have voted differently. As for being chided for being “ignorant” of gay issues, it isnt a matter of what you think. Mine says “exit door only” for a reason. I prefer Barbie, not Ken! That isnt a phobia, it is MY choice! I am not guilty of a hate crime for thinking the way I do, but yours is the crime of hate for not allowing me to. The people of the country voted! You lost! Deal with it!

  25. DEZ says:

    “If Proposition 8 would have been changed to Preparation “H” ”
    Hah, Bwahahahaha.

  26. Professor_Repulso says:

    I found this both amusing and disgusting. Be forewarned – this narrative contains old-school terminology which is definitely not PC.
    “Now, after California voters adopted Proposition 8, the sodomites congregated outside City Hall in Palm Springs, screaming vituperation. Phyllis Burgess, 69, a Christian lady, appeared, carrying a cross. A screaming faggot tore the cross from her hands and stomped it. You can see him doing that on You Tube while she prays. Take a look. Curiously, no one smashed the faggot’s head in, but the police have persuaded Miss Burgess to sue.
    “About 50% of Kahleeforneeya whites voted for Proposition 8. More than 70% of blacks – the same blacks who voted for Hussein – voted for it. Why? Here is one speculation. Organized buggery has long tried to piggyback on black ‘civil rights.’ The buggers tell the blacks, ‘We’re a minority. You’re a minority. We are both fighting for our rights. So we are natural allies, part of the same cause.’
    “But guess what? Because most black people, like all other people, are normal, they resent being lumped in with faggots. Could that be at least one reason they voted so overwhelmingly for Proposition 8? Of course, this is mere speculation, but it is reasonable speculation.
    “But now here comes the kicker. There was another screaming demonstration outside the Mormon Temple in Westwood. Some black people were present. Aware that blacks put Proposition 8 across, white sodomites screamed at them, ‘Okay, if you call us faggots, we’ll call you niggers!’ Apparently, the white sodomites did not realize until later that the blacks were also sodomites. That is why the blacks were there; to demonstrate with their fellow buggers against 8. But it appears that the glued-together coalition is coming apart.”

    From a column by Alan Stang

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