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		<title>By: pdsand</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128836</link>
		<dc:creator>pdsand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awesome proreason.  You know I took a trip for work about a year and a half ago, and the website we book our travel through actually asked if I wanted to buy a carbon credit for the plane ticket.  I think it took me 1/10th of a nanosecond to click no to that question.  I guess those chuckleheads plant trees or something with the money they get, but I wonder.  You won&#039;t see a bunch of commando conservatives staking out carbon offset projects with night-vision goggles and scientific calculators to make sure that the amount of carbon claimed is actually being offset.  That&#039;s even assuming the whole business isn&#039;t a giant scam supported by junk science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s awesome proreason.  You know I took a trip for work about a year and a half ago, and the website we book our travel through actually asked if I wanted to buy a carbon credit for the plane ticket.  I think it took me 1/10th of a nanosecond to click no to that question.  I guess those chuckleheads plant trees or something with the money they get, but I wonder.  You won&#8217;t see a bunch of commando conservatives staking out carbon offset projects with night-vision goggles and scientific calculators to make sure that the amount of carbon claimed is actually being offset.  That&#8217;s even assuming the whole business isn&#8217;t a giant scam supported by junk science.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128570</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pdsand, You&#039;re close, but here&#039;s how the process really works.

During the day, AlToad and other Greenies engage in the proccesses of bloviomoneysynthesis with consists of persuading ignorant people that totally natural processes are in fact destroying humanity, and must therefore be offset by &quot;carbon credits&quot;.

At night, the carbon credits are converted into money that is moved from the ignorant people&#039;s bank accounts into AlToad&#039;s bank account, thus completing the bloviommoneysynthesis process, which begins again with the new day.

There is an associated process called arrogantispowergrabitis that also happens but it is taught in an advanced lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pdsand, You&#8217;re close, but here&#8217;s how the process really works.</p>
<p>During the day, AlToad and other Greenies engage in the proccesses of bloviomoneysynthesis with consists of persuading ignorant people that totally natural processes are in fact destroying humanity, and must therefore be offset by &#8220;carbon credits&#8221;.</p>
<p>At night, the carbon credits are converted into money that is moved from the ignorant people&#8217;s bank accounts into AlToad&#8217;s bank account, thus completing the bloviommoneysynthesis process, which begins again with the new day.</p>
<p>There is an associated process called arrogantispowergrabitis that also happens but it is taught in an advanced lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: pdsand</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128563</link>
		<dc:creator>pdsand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I finally got it.  This article is written along a much more high-minded, and therefore nonsensical train of thought.  The global warming that isn&#039;t happening will dry out the forest and lead to forest fires that won&#039;t happen.  Therefore the government can&#039;t take a carbon credit that won&#039;t matter on a kyoto protocol form to ensure compliance with a treaty they never should have signed.  I&#039;m sorry about my prior post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I finally got it.  This article is written along a much more high-minded, and therefore nonsensical train of thought.  The global warming that isn&#8217;t happening will dry out the forest and lead to forest fires that won&#8217;t happen.  Therefore the government can&#8217;t take a carbon credit that won&#8217;t matter on a kyoto protocol form to ensure compliance with a treaty they never should have signed.  I&#8217;m sorry about my prior post.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMG</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128562</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t want to confuse the &#039;greenies&#039; with facts.  They have a planet to save!!</description>
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		<title>By: pdsand</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128561</link>
		<dc:creator>pdsand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can be and probably am wrong, but from high school chemistry, don&#039;t trees engage in the processes of photosynthesis and respiration that absorbs CO2 and produces O2 at night, and then absorb O2 and produce CO2 in the daytime in approximately equal processes that roughly offset?  Whatever the net gain or loss wouldn&#039;t it always be pretty much negligible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can be and probably am wrong, but from high school chemistry, don&#8217;t trees engage in the processes of photosynthesis and respiration that absorbs CO2 and produces O2 at night, and then absorb O2 and produce CO2 in the daytime in approximately equal processes that roughly offset?  Whatever the net gain or loss wouldn&#8217;t it always be pretty much negligible?</p>
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		<title>By: Liberals Demise</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128522</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberals Demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...if trees cause global warming, what does grass cause?
THE MUNCHIES!!!!
Four years of college and nothing to show for it....is no way to go through life. Total waste of good money and time. Over educated Boneheads watch out; the sky is falling!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;if trees cause global warming, what does grass cause?<br />
THE MUNCHIES!!!!<br />
Four years of college and nothing to show for it&#8230;.is no way to go through life. Total waste of good money and time. Over educated Boneheads watch out; the sky is falling!!</p>
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		<title>By: Confucius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128460</link>
		<dc:creator>Confucius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what else is bad for the climate?  Candlelight vigils and waving Bic lighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what else is bad for the climate?  Candlelight vigils and waving Bic lighters.</p>
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		<title>By: Confucius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128459</link>
		<dc:creator>Confucius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like watching a dog chase its own tail.  Speaking of which, maybe we should sterilize the environmentalists too.  It might &quot;calm&quot; them.

And a message to the environmentalists:

Dear whackjobs,

     Don&#039;t mess with Mother Nature.  She&#039;s a total beatch.

Well, what do you know.  We&#039;re back to the dog metaphor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like watching a dog chase its own tail.  Speaking of which, maybe we should sterilize the environmentalists too.  It might &#8220;calm&#8221; them.</p>
<p>And a message to the environmentalists:</p>
<p>Dear whackjobs,</p>
<p>     Don&#8217;t mess with Mother Nature.  She&#8217;s a total beatch.</p>
<p>Well, what do you know.  We&#8217;re back to the dog metaphor.</p>
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		<title>By: sheehanjihad</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128449</link>
		<dc:creator>sheehanjihad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be more sure of the pure bunk being thrown out by the &quot;climate experts&quot; that are screeching about how we are all gonna die due to our excessive and irresponsible emission of carbon dioxide.......I did a little research and discovered the basis for their &quot;findings&quot;.

The benchmark for our global &quot;warming&quot; is based on temperatures taken 100 years ago...which for those who arent aware of it, was the end of a climatological phenomenon known as the &quot;Little Ice Age&quot; where from the middle of the 17th century to the end of the 19th century, the world&#039;s average temperature was below historical norms....one year had the honor of being the &quot;year without summer&quot; where the Dutch were ice skating on canals in June....

Using that as the benchmark, and ignoring the past 10000 years of average and warmer than average temperatures, the climatologists are running around banging into walls  and pointing to that point in time as the &quot;average&quot; global temperature, and using it as the basis for their &quot;evidence&quot; that temperatures are indeed on the rise.  Using that formula, they guarantee their findings irrefutable, and leave out the fact that their baseline is purposefully skewed in their favor.

Global Warming activism is long on unsubstantiated assertions, and short on objective facts. Only by comparing today&#039;s temperatures to the abnormal cold of the &quot;little ice age&quot;- and by completely ignoring the warmer temperatures that predominated during most of the past 10,000 years---can global warming activists paint a picture of the planet suffering a warming crisis.

Moreover, sound science has thrown cold water on each and every one of the alleged global warming &quot;crises&quot;, such as endangered polar bears, melting ice caps, ect ect, alleged to result from global warming.  When faced with the systematic exposure to each allegation time and time again, the activists now use Canadian forests as their next example, telling everyone that trees which until now absorbed carbon dioxide and gave off oxygen, now somehow that process is reversed and we are all going to die.

This is nothing more than playing on the ignorance of people, and putting forth flawed personal theory as fact, while ignoring the facts and hoping nobody does their homework and exposes them for the grifting charlatans they are.  Man isnt causing global warming, quack science is.  No matter what man does to try to prevent the inexorable cycles the earth has maintained for billions of years, it would be like spitting in the Pacific ocean and telling everyone that it is lessening the salinity of the water. 

The big difference is, climate &quot;experts&quot; are doing just that. Spitting into the sea. And charging you for their trouble.  PT Barnum&#039;s &quot;there&#039;s a sucker born every minute&quot; comes to mind, and all of this hype about a non existent problem could be better served if the experts would solve a real problem and not try to make a living on a fabricated crisis and wasting everybody&#039;s time and money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be more sure of the pure bunk being thrown out by the &#8220;climate experts&#8221; that are screeching about how we are all gonna die due to our excessive and irresponsible emission of carbon dioxide&#8230;&#8230;.I did a little research and discovered the basis for their &#8220;findings&#8221;.</p>
<p>The benchmark for our global &#8220;warming&#8221; is based on temperatures taken 100 years ago&#8230;which for those who arent aware of it, was the end of a climatological phenomenon known as the &#8220;Little Ice Age&#8221; where from the middle of the 17th century to the end of the 19th century, the world&#8217;s average temperature was below historical norms&#8230;.one year had the honor of being the &#8220;year without summer&#8221; where the Dutch were ice skating on canals in June&#8230;.</p>
<p>Using that as the benchmark, and ignoring the past 10000 years of average and warmer than average temperatures, the climatologists are running around banging into walls  and pointing to that point in time as the &#8220;average&#8221; global temperature, and using it as the basis for their &#8220;evidence&#8221; that temperatures are indeed on the rise.  Using that formula, they guarantee their findings irrefutable, and leave out the fact that their baseline is purposefully skewed in their favor.</p>
<p>Global Warming activism is long on unsubstantiated assertions, and short on objective facts. Only by comparing today&#8217;s temperatures to the abnormal cold of the &#8220;little ice age&#8221;- and by completely ignoring the warmer temperatures that predominated during most of the past 10,000 years&#8212;can global warming activists paint a picture of the planet suffering a warming crisis.</p>
<p>Moreover, sound science has thrown cold water on each and every one of the alleged global warming &#8220;crises&#8221;, such as endangered polar bears, melting ice caps, ect ect, alleged to result from global warming.  When faced with the systematic exposure to each allegation time and time again, the activists now use Canadian forests as their next example, telling everyone that trees which until now absorbed carbon dioxide and gave off oxygen, now somehow that process is reversed and we are all going to die.</p>
<p>This is nothing more than playing on the ignorance of people, and putting forth flawed personal theory as fact, while ignoring the facts and hoping nobody does their homework and exposes them for the grifting charlatans they are.  Man isnt causing global warming, quack science is.  No matter what man does to try to prevent the inexorable cycles the earth has maintained for billions of years, it would be like spitting in the Pacific ocean and telling everyone that it is lessening the salinity of the water. </p>
<p>The big difference is, climate &#8220;experts&#8221; are doing just that. Spitting into the sea. And charging you for their trouble.  PT Barnum&#8217;s &#8220;there&#8217;s a sucker born every minute&#8221; comes to mind, and all of this hype about a non existent problem could be better served if the experts would solve a real problem and not try to make a living on a fabricated crisis and wasting everybody&#8217;s time and money.</p>
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		<title>By: cjokry</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128441</link>
		<dc:creator>cjokry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not big on empirical facts, are they.  It&#039;s more of a guessing game about the future where nobody really keeps track of how many wrong guesses they make.  I don&#039;t think they&#039;d want to play if anybody kept score.  I just feel bad, because I know a lot of true believers who have really bought into it, but I feel like there must be somebody at the top that knows it&#039;s all bs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not big on empirical facts, are they.  It&#8217;s more of a guessing game about the future where nobody really keeps track of how many wrong guesses they make.  I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;d want to play if anybody kept score.  I just feel bad, because I know a lot of true believers who have really bought into it, but I feel like there must be somebody at the top that knows it&#8217;s all bs.</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel1961</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128440</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonel1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing.  Tell her to ask Malthus if the Earth is overpopulated...  It&#039;s kinda like Paul Krugman: he&#039;s been predicting a recession for eight years, i.e., about the nominal economic cycle, now he thinks he was right.  Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing.  Tell her to ask Malthus if the Earth is overpopulated&#8230;  It&#8217;s kinda like Paul Krugman: he&#8217;s been predicting a recession for eight years, i.e., about the nominal economic cycle, now he thinks he was right.  Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128436</link>
		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;...threatening to set off what they describe as a virtual &quot;carbon bomb&quot;—the estimated 186 billion tons of carbon stored in Canada’s forests,...&lt;/I&gt;

Foolish Americans - we laugh at your puny nukes...bwahahaha. 

Actually, while it&#039;s always educational to be told all about the part of the country where I live work and play -especially by a Chicago Trib correspondent, who&#039;s based in Houston, Texas, whose main claim to fame is writing about race relations in America (check his website) and who&#039;s doing his investigating in one of Canada&#039;s largest and warmest cities...the fact is, is that this whole article is one long, meandering stream of self-contradictory, unmitigated horseshit.

I can dismantle it if anyone really needs me to, but I do have to work in the morning -albeit not in logging/forestry anymore since that industry is deader than John Edwards&#039;s political aspirations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;threatening to set off what they describe as a virtual &#8220;carbon bomb&#8221;—the estimated 186 billion tons of carbon stored in Canada’s forests,&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Foolish Americans &#8211; we laugh at your puny nukes&#8230;bwahahaha. </p>
<p>Actually, while it&#8217;s always educational to be told all about the part of the country where I live work and play -especially by a Chicago Trib correspondent, who&#8217;s based in Houston, Texas, whose main claim to fame is writing about race relations in America (check his website) and who&#8217;s doing his investigating in one of Canada&#8217;s largest and warmest cities&#8230;the fact is, is that this whole article is one long, meandering stream of self-contradictory, unmitigated horseshit.</p>
<p>I can dismantle it if anyone really needs me to, but I do have to work in the morning -albeit not in logging/forestry anymore since that industry is deader than John Edwards&#8217;s political aspirations.</p>
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		<title>By: cjokry</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128424</link>
		<dc:creator>cjokry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had a conversation with my sister about this very topic.  I told her climate change was easily and demonstratively linked to solar radiation levels.  It&#039;s that simple.  Rather than refute this point, she went on with &quot;and I suppose you don&#039;t think the earth is overpopulated, either.&quot;  I try to explain to her that people are good, but when someone doesn&#039;t think people are made in the Creator&#039;s image, it&#039;s not hard to see how they regard their fellow man as a plague.  

My sister is a fine adult, really a terrific girl. But four years at a state university.... And that&quot;s pretty much the story of what&#039;s happening to all the adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had a conversation with my sister about this very topic.  I told her climate change was easily and demonstratively linked to solar radiation levels.  It&#8217;s that simple.  Rather than refute this point, she went on with &#8220;and I suppose you don&#8217;t think the earth is overpopulated, either.&#8221;  I try to explain to her that people are good, but when someone doesn&#8217;t think people are made in the Creator&#8217;s image, it&#8217;s not hard to see how they regard their fellow man as a plague.  </p>
<p>My sister is a fine adult, really a terrific girl. But four years at a state university&#8230;. And that&#8221;s pretty much the story of what&#8217;s happening to all the adults.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128395</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 1970&#039;s the doomsayers were predicting that Global Cooling would destroy the earth in a few decades.

They also predicted humanity would have destroyed itself by now from overpopulation.

But being wrong 100% of the time doesn&#039;t stop these charlatans.  Since they can&#039;t make an accurate prediction if their life depended on it, the only thing they CAN depend on is the ignorance of the suckers they prey on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 1970&#8217;s the doomsayers were predicting that Global Cooling would destroy the earth in a few decades.</p>
<p>They also predicted humanity would have destroyed itself by now from overpopulation.</p>
<p>But being wrong 100% of the time doesn&#8217;t stop these charlatans.  Since they can&#8217;t make an accurate prediction if their life depended on it, the only thing they CAN depend on is the ignorance of the suckers they prey on.</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel1961</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/trees-are-causing-global-warming-again#comment-128391</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonel1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any adults left out there?  Is that rhetorical?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any adults left out there?  Is that rhetorical?</p>
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